I am going to order Colloidal Silver for myself and my dog tomorrow. My friend's dog has 4 fatty tumors (non-cancerous) that are growing. I remember reading a post about someone using Colloidal Silver to get rid of a fatty tumor on their dog. I plan to give my friend a bottle of the CS. Her dog is about 20 pounds. How should I tell her to use the silver? She has another dog and a cat, and I'm assuming it will be okay for them to all share the water with the silver in it. How much should she put in the water? Also, does it help to put some on the tumors topically?
Has anyone ever used it on their dogs with kidney issues? My dog's BUN (blood urea nitrogen) has been high. No other levels are high, and I have been giving her a couple of supplements that are supposed to aid the kidney. Do you think the CS will help the kidney? I will be getting her bloodwork done in the next couple of weeks, so it will be good to know the values before I start giving her the CS to see how it helps (if you do recommend using it).
You need to get a generator like a silver puppy. It's simply to expensive to do otherwise. For tumors the dog should drink at least 4 ounces in the water dish. Some have given 10 ppm straight to the dog instead of water. You could also have a separate dish with just Colloidal Silver and let the dog drink it if it wants. Silver is non toxic so you just want to make sure the dog gets enough.
CS will NOT affect lipomas (fatty tumors) at all - they need to be removed by surgery, preferably before they grow larger, or become necrotic/infected.
As for kidney function, CS will precipitate in the kidney, causing permanent damage, especially to already compromised organs. Follow your veterinarian's reccomendations, use all prescribed medications and diets as directed. Blood chemistry and electrolyte levels need to be checked frequently to monitor organ function.
As for your dog's elevated BUN without other changes, that can be elevated due to increased protein injestion from the diet and treats. Again, the blood chemistries should be rechecked and evaluated to watch for changes.
"Documented clinical evidence" is one of the catch phrases that mainstream trolls use here. Only the trillion dollar mainstream drug industry with their unholy patented and side-effect laden products that merely manage symptoms can afford the millions it takes for all the clinical studies that prove how safe and effective their products are. You know, like Merck did with Vioxx.
How about YOU show documented clinical evidence of kidney damage from properly made colloidal silver?
And, since you just joined CureZone and this is only your second post, I will point out to you that this entire website was created by it's owner to provide alternatives to mainstream medicines and treatments. If all you can do is advise posters to turn to what they have already rejected, and you cannot provide your own evidence of what YOU say, beat it!
Nothing personal, just upholding the reasons for this site being created. None of us who care about the reasons CZ was created or its mission really care to see someone make a post that not only warns of an alternative treatment without offering proof, but also recommends a return to mainstream treatment that people come to this site to avoid.
How do you KNOW that my information will not help? Some of it is recommended by wholistic veterinarians, whom I assume are more qualified and experienced than either you or I.
I define properly made colloidal silver as silver which is mostly true colloidal silver, which has particle sizes in the sub or near nanometer size and which has not been contaminated by salt or artificially suspended in animal protein. I can save you some research as I know the subject well and have researched it extensively - there is NO documented case of colloidal silver causing kidney damage - just mainstream propaganda alleging it to do so because it represents threats to billions of dollars in profits for their patentend antibiotics, which colloidal silver outperforms more safely and much less expensively. Name me one anti-biotic that has been proven in clinical tests to be deadly to 650 different pathogens?
If it helps any, they jumped all over my arse when I first came on the scene too, but before too long I was asked to host a private forum here.
My Silver Generator (Silver Puppy) uses such a small amount of silver that I have been using the same electrodes for years with little signs of having to be replaced. These stories of properly made Ionic Silver depositing in organs is nothing more than a myth.
We have had several instances where people and animals with cancer had the cancers disappear in a short period of time and in all those cases no chemo or radiation was used. The only thing used was fairly large amounts of ionic/ Colloidal Silver taken daily. We also have an instance of a 13 year old dog that was opened by a veterinarian and immediately sewn up with the comment "this dog will be gone in a few weeks". The dog had lumps all over its body and the vet stated the dog had hemangioma sarcoma. The dog was given CS as drinking water only and within a few days the cancers disappeared. The dog resumed its normal life and the last we heard it was still going strong at age 15. We subsequently lost contact but this shows that the placebo effect was not part of the response in this animal.
Correct me if I am wrong but in the context you are using 'precipitate' refers to 'depositing' which, by that definition, means silver being 'deposited' in the kidneys, am I right?
Sorry, but it simply can't, won't, never has, and never will happen!
My research, (comprehensive, and over several years), states that it is BIOLOGICALLY IMPOSSIBLE for that situation to occur...The body will NOT accumulate silver when produced in the CORRECT manner, ie; TRUE ELECTRO-IONIC Colloidal Silver . Proteins, nitrates , Compounds blah...blah is a different story, but true EICS simply will NOT have this result, (well not from my personal experience of ingesting it and from all the research I have done to date)! The question is...Do you have an open or closed mind on the subject? If it's open, you have learned something here. If it's closed, then it ends right here.
But of course, if you can prove me wrong, I am all ears but don't ask me to quote sites for reference as I have done my head in enough over this 'silver' thing and I am well satisfied with the research I have done.
It's exactly as I stated. There is no other context.
Good - then we know it is bogus.
A suggestion: since you are new here, why don't you spend a bit of time learning the truth about mainstream medicine and alternatives before you charge in with mainstream info that you may believe is accurate but we KNOW is not. And I am not being ugly or rude when I say that - you really do need to take off the blinders and learn what is real.
Ten years or so ago, I would have mostly agreed with you. Many years and thousands of hours of jaw dropping, eye opening research later I know much better.
Here is what you will find, if you look:
Mainstream medicine long ago ceased being concerned with true healing and became a profits first global empire whose only marketplace was our bodies. Curing anything not only became secondary, it has actually been suppressed in favor of the more profitable practice of managing symptoms with unnatural isolates and synthetics which have side effects that lead to still more drugs in a never ending cycle. To that end, there is no lie or distortion they will not tell and no study they will not slant, hide, buyoff or fabricate to further their profits.
Just to add to DQ's comment, (if there are no objections), do a little research on Dr. Royal Rife 'Horsefeatherz' and read what happened there. Try a search for 'The Rife Story', it's 18 pages in length. If you are not literally 'BLOWN AWAY' by what you read on that piece of history then I don't know what else I can say. Two words immediately spring to mind though...Disbelief and Incredulous. I have capitalized both words purposely as after you do the research you will find that they merit capitalization, to emphasise the diabolical events which were associated with Dr.Rife. It's an EXCELLENT read and will change your opinions of 'mainstream' thinking on prety much anything.
Colloidal silver, especially in combination with colloidal gold, has had some very good success against cancer. Colloidal gold essentially encapsulates the cancer tumors and colloidal silver. ... ... Personally I would not rely on silver and gold alone. Inositol/IP6 has had very good success against tumors in animals, as has oleander extract. ... ... Insofar as kindey problems, silver does help in tissue repair and contrary to what the above poster said, there is little risk of kidney damage from silver. There is a much greater risk of kidney damage from flouridated water and wat ...
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Thanks to everyone (well, almost everyone) for the good advice. My last dog had hypothyroidism, diabetes, cushings disease, and eventually leading to kidney failure, so I am fairly educated on the typical issues of kidney failure. The dog I have now I adopted from a rescue group when she was close to 1. She was dropped at the gates of a shelter in a hail storm, so they named her Haley. A rescue group pulled her from the shelter, and that's how I found her. Anyhow, I'm thinking there's a possibility that she may have been vaccinated before she was dropped off and then again by the rescue group, since they do not know prior histories of the animals. I get her blood work done twice a year, basically because of the health issues of my last dog and wishing that I had done that all along so that I could have caught some of the problems earlier. Haley had raised liver enzymes and her BUN level was near the high end of the normal range even in her first batch of blood work. Her liver enzymes are now normal, and I think this is due to me giving her several rounds of an herbal parasite cleanser (Humaworm). I had read that parasites can possibly cause the elevated levels. Her BUN level, however, is now just above the normal range. I feed her a high quality frozen raw food with some added vegetables and cottage cheese. I give her a natural supplement to aid the kidneys and also probiotics. She eats a little dry kibble (Nature's Variety brand), and I sometimes do cook her food --- high quality meats and vegetables. The closest thing to a starch/carbohydrate I give her is sometimes yams. I would NEVER feed the vet recommended types of foods for kidney issues. That is usually the Prescriiption food they sell, which contains by-products and many other disgusting ingredients. She has also been getting distilled water most of her life. I used to drink it also but got tired of lugging home jugs of it from the store (have not invested in a home distiller). Haley does sometimes drink from my glass (I know this is a BAD habit --- I do the Humaworm parasite cleanser several times a year, also), so she does get a little bit of filtered water, but the majority of her water is distilled. I learned about the distilled water during my previous dog's health issues. I will start adding some silver to her water when I get it.
Since my friend's dog's tumors are non-cancerous, would you still recommend the gold, silver, Oleander , AND inositol? They are fatty tumors -- lipomas. I'm not sure her husband would "approve" of her buying all of the products. She was thinking about having the fatty tumors removed, but she doesn't really want to put her dog under if she doesn't have to. She is part pug with breathing issues and is older, so it can be risky. From what I've read on the fatty tumors, they are thought to be caused (in the holistic/natural world) from the body's immune/endocrine system not functioning properly and the body trying to eliminate toxins. She feeds her dog high quality food (Nature's Logic) and proteins and vegetables. She no longer vaccinates, doesn't use flea treatments, etc.
I don't know if she would get a silver puppy, but maybe I could eventually and make ionic silver for her. I am going to get some silver and gold from Utopia and plan to give her a bottle of the silver to at least get her started. Since the lumps are non cancerous, how much should she give? Since she has other animals sharing the water bowl, should she try to maybe mix it in the dog's food or something to make sure she gets enough of it each day?
No supplement will affect lipomas (fatty tumors) and they will continue to grow, only surgery will remove them. Depending on where they are, they can cause problems with walking or put pressure on other organs, causing dysfunction. Also, as already mentioned, they can get infected or necrotic, causing more heath problems.
A friend's Labrador had multiple, large lipomas on his chest/armpits (causung walking problems, and being able to sleep very uncomfortably), along with internal ones. She insisted on treating him with supplements and refused to consider surgery until he collapsed from toxin build-up from the pressure on his bowel from one of the internal tumors.
Surgery was performed, and a 6 pound lipoma was removed from around his bowel. In addition, a 3# one was removed that was pressing against his liver. The 3 chest tumors were each 2#.
He recovered well (with his new, svelt figure), and had increased energy and normal mobility. Today, hes's still active, and has resumed being a trail dog at a local stable.
Horsefeatherz, I beg to differ with you. My nine year old Misty had a fatty tumor on her side that was growing rapidly. On introducing colloidal silver the tumor melted away in a matter of weeks. I would like to say, less than a month to be liberal. I really think it really only took a couple of weeks.
I really think you need to give these supplements a chance. Their healing powers are tremendous. Since then, I have kept Misty on colloidal silver and from being a lethargic older dog losing her appetite, she now has the stamina of a puppy.
I had her on a pickup this past weekend while another dog was running next to the truck. Misty jumped off the truck and joined the other dog the rest of the way.
I highly recommend colloidal silver for all animals. Humans too. It is a magnificent healer.
I did remember reading your post about you using the CS for your dog's fatty tumors. How much did you give Misty each day? Did you just mix it in her water bowl, give it straight, or what? Did you also rub it on topically? I've been anxious to hear how you used it. Thanks!!!
Being a novice with colloidal silver, what I did was put one tablespoon in her drinking water. Then, I would give her an additional tablespoon three times a day. My being this meticulous was not necessary. Just pour a goodly amount in your pet's water every day. They cannot overdose. If the pet is in good health, a teaspoon in their drinking water will keep them healthy and happy. However, I put a tablespoon in Misty's drinking water, I guess to add that extra oomph.
And what supplements did your friend use? The same as we have recommended? I very much doubt it. There are hundreds and hundreds of supplements - to compare any others with what is recommended here is strictly apples and oranges.
By your logic, one failure with one or a few supplements means that NO supplements will work and one succesful surgery means that ALL surgeries (or ONLY surgery) will work?
I have a number of animal owners in my Yahoo forum who have run out of options for surgery and have been told so by their veterinarians. The tumors keep coming back after repeeate surgeries - and supplements are among their ONLY remaining options.
Like we recommended, you really need to read up before you start giving advice here in this NON-MAINSTREAM forum.
What we know is that for thousands of years, nature was mainstream medicine. Surgeries and other non-natural techniques were tried as a last resort only after nature was tried first. Now that the relative newcomer of western medicine has came along and proceeded to supplant and suppress real natural healing - and ultimately come to value profits ahead of healing - mainstream medicines and treatments are pushed off on us first and nature often is called upon to not only correct the original problem, but also the mess left behind by the so-called mainstream treatments.
A great many lives and untold unnecessary suffering could be eliminated if we reverted to the old priority.
I talked to the Lab's owner, she has him under the care of an holistic vet for all of his life. Part of this dog's supplement regime has always included CS (the amount was even increased by the vet at the first signs of the lipomas) along with multiple proprietary supplements blended by the vet's office pharmacy. She also feeds a raw diet as reccomended by the vet.
In all cases of pet lipomas, only surgery will work, especially evident in this dog's case.
Too bad this dog (and many others) have to suffer with debilitating lipomas for far too long until surgery was performed.b
Because an unidentified type and amount of colloidal silver and unidentified herbs did not work in one instance does not in any means support your mainstream bullcrap statement that only surgery will work for ANY lipoma.
I suppose that in this area too you need a bit of education. I have made 4,000 posts here and am not banned in a single forum, so I guess I know how to stay within the guidelines pretty well. One thing that will get you banned is to continue to post rejected mainstream information in a forum about alternative treatments.
I am playing nice, just playing tough too when it comes to posts that I know are inaccurate. Actually I have some hope for you that you will find this site a learning experience and your knowledge of natural healing greatly enriched.
Dogs have the poorest urinary excretion rates of any laboratory animal. The US EPA used silver nitrate excretion in dogs to determine for RfD for silver in humans. Dogs primarily process silver through the liver.
(This is a chapter from the book Colloidal Silver : Medical Uses, Toxicology and Manufacture)
Colloidal Silver : A Literature Review: Medical Uses, Toxicology & Manufacture - Third Edition - By John Hill
This book is the most comprehensive and objective reference on colloidal silver available. It covers what is known about colloidal silver, what it does, how it works, and what its risk of toxicity is. This third edition has incorporated a lot of new information from recent research and development activity. Argyria and silver toxicity is addressed in detail from an objective perspective. Information from both old and recent medical and scientific publications is summarized and presented in an objective framework. It covers medical applications, mechanisms of action, absorption and elimination and other related aspects. The basic process of making colloidal silver by the low voltage cathodic method is discussed. 136 references are cited.
(my comments in parenthesis)
"In one research project, dogs died from injections of a type of protein bound silver (my comment mild silver protein) in dosages ranging from 500 mg (equivalent to the silver found 1 litre of 500 ppm mild silver protein) to 1.9 grams (my comment almost 4 litres of 500 ppm) of silver depending on the dosage and frequency of administration. (46) This was equivalent in silver content to giving a 150 pound adult between 150 and 570 liters of 10 PPM colloidal silver, or between 75 and 285 liters of 20 PPM colloidal silver, or between 50 and 190 liters of 30 PPM colloidal silver. The 10 gram estimated lethal dose for humans from Goodman and Gillman (56) is equivalent in silver content to 1000 liters of 10 PPM colloidal silver.
In this study (46), the authors were attempting to cause anemia in dogs for experimental purposes rather than test the effect or safety of colloidal silver. They injected Collargol(a brand name mild silver protein), which contains approximately 87% silver (my comment 8,700 ppm) with the remainder being albuminous proteins.
In one test, they injected 500 mg of Collargol into a 23 kg dog. The dog died 12 hours later. They further noted that doses of 1.3 to 1.5 grams of Collargol are tolerated (before death occurs) if divided and given at the proper intervals over a period of 3 to 7 days. Single doses of 200 to 300 mg were well tolerated. Death usually followed a single large dose.
Upon necropsy, the following pathological changes were noted:
(1) There was moderate congestion and marked edema of the lungs.
(2) The reticuloendothelial cells of the liver and spleen contained coarse silver deposits. So did lymph nodes, bone marrow, and to a lesser degree, the kidneys.
(3) The bone marrow showed slight to marked hyperplasia with no death to the parent cells and contained many mononuclear cells filled with brown (silver) pigment.
(4) The hematocrit dropped 10 to 14 percent.
(5) There was a slimy exudate from the nose.
(6) Those overdosed over a longer time period became emaciated.
The administration of smaller doses, 20 to 50 mg over intervals resulted in mild leukocytosis and an increase in hematocrit.
The authors reference another article in which a human died two hours after receiving an intravenous injection of 50 mg Collargol. An autopsy revealed changes nearly identical to those described for the dogs.
More recently, Motohashi performed an experiment in which Collargum was injected into rabbits. After the injection, he observed that the hemophages began "ingesting the animal's own erythrocytes abnormally." He determined that the minimum dose of injected Collargum into rabbits which caused increased hemophage activity was 1 cc of a 1:10000 dillution per kilogram of weight. (123)
In another case (47), an individual ingested an estimated 124 grams of silver nitrate over a period of 9 years. She developed argyria and an assortment of neurological symptoms as well. The authors note that the silver tended to complex with sulfur in the form of Ag2S. A moderate presence of silver-sulfur granules were seen in the perineural tissue, in the peripheral nerves and along the elastic fibers, and to a lesser extent along the collagenous fibers, and in macrophages. These deposits were noted to have an affinity for basal membranes. The neurological manifestations included taste and smell disorders, vertigo, and hyeresthesia. This report is often used by critics to attribute neurological disorders to colloidal silver consumption. For comparisons to be meaningful, differences in dosage regimens must be accounted for.
It may be helpful to put this in perspective with the quantity of silver that is consumed in food and drinking water from natural sources. The EPA publishes a reference dose (RFD) for silver which is an estimate of daily exposure to the entire population that is unlikely to be associated with a significant risk of adverse effects over a lifetime. The current RFD for oral silver exposure is 5 micrograms/kg/day with a critical dose estimated at 14 micrograms/kg/day. (My comment for a 160 pound individual about 6 tablespoons of 10 ppm) The maximum contaminant level proposed by the EPA for silver in the drinking water is less than 0.1 mg/L (0.1 PPM).
Based on this RFD, a 150 pound adult should not exceed 350 micrograms/day. (which is 1 1/8). If the silver in drinking water meets EPA standards, an average person drinking 2 liters per day will consume less than 200 micrograms of silver. (about 4 teaspoons at 10 ppm).
In addition the daily diet may contain about 90 micrograms of silver. (63) 350 micrograms of silver is equivalent to 70 milliliters (14 tsp) of 5 PPM colloidal silver. This is the amount that the EPA standards permit an individual to consume from natural sources.
(My comment the EPA researched 1920's-1930's vintage research on silver which stated silver is excreted through the liver. The Altman study disputes this, kidney excretion of 10 ppm silver in 24 hours 97% up to 40 teaspoons)
Nowhere in the above was their any mention of kidney injury in dogs in the manner you described.
The poster has had lipomas since her teen years. Around the middle of a very long and informative posts she discusses lipomas. You might find some of the ways she dealt/deals with them interesting. Really, the whole thread is great.
I'm glad you posted that about Shirley's Wellness Cafe. I used to go on there a lot and actually bought the Transfer Factor (used on the cat with renal failure on the site) when Haley's first blood work showed her BUN in the high normal range. I started a couple new things at the same time, and she started pooping in the house during the day while I was at work. I stopped all of the new stuff and she was fine again. I just never got back to adding in the Transfer Factor. I kept it in the refrigerator and started taking it myself. I still had the bottle in the fridge, along with a couple bottles of probiotics. I just checked and the Transfer Factor bottle is empty (except for the little packet in it to keep out moisture). I just ordered it again to try on Haley. Hopefully that wasn't the supplement that caused her to go to the bathroom before.
Just had to throw in my two cents worth. I've seen giant fatty tumors in a dog reduce like in half(the owners stopped CS usage). Small one in dogs and cats just go away completly. Concerning the kidney issue, if you are feeding your dog a high protein dog food, this might be the cause. Several years ago the same thing with my dog. At the time, the food I was feeding him had over 30% protein. He's been on a lower protein content dog food since then and he hasn't any problem. He's a big dog and will turn twelve in a few days.
I researched a lot on diets for kidney issues when my last dog started having problems. I had to do in depth research, because she also had diabetes and couldn't have the carbohydrates. More recent studies done and a lot of homeopathics and holistic vets/scientists believe the low protein diet is not more beneficial, as long as the protein is a high quality. Haley's BUN level was near the high end of the normal range even the first time I had her blood work done (a couple weeks after I adopted her). From my reading, it doesn't necessarily mean kidney problems when only the BUN levels are high, but I'm just really paranoid after dealing with kidney failure on top of the other health issues in my other dog. I did read about a couple of supplements that are manufactured for veterinary uses (therefore, expensive) that are being used for kidney problems. You're not going to believe what they are --- one was just probiotics and the other was chitosan and something else. Basically, they are charging a lot for simple supplements that can be purchased. I already give Haley probiotics every day, but I haven't tried the chitosan.
I have a female shih tzu who just turned 15. She currently has a mammary tumor that has grown quickly in the past month. I would like to be able to shrink this tumor. I have her on a raw frozen diet of Nature's Variety along with the Budwig diet (cottage cheese and flax seed oil). Unfortunately it is not helping. She's had tumors in the past, two surgeries to remove them. All tumors were shown to be noncancerous. I wanted to take the herbal route as opposed to her having surgery. If anyone has advice, please post. Thanks.
Try coconut oil. I used it on my cat who had a growth on his back which I got rid of in about 2 weeks. You have to be consistent and keep the area moist with the oil. I've also heard good things about putting castor on tumors with great success.
You pup can also eat the coconut oil...he wouldn't need much..prolly only about 1/2 teaspoon/day.
Colloidal silver is the best thing for not only shrinking but getting rid of tumors. Are you referring to a fatty tumor? If so, colloidal silver will do the trick. It literally melted my 9 year old Misty's tumor in less than a month and in the process gave her the vim and vigor that she had in her puppy days.
Actually, despite the type of tumor or the type of condition your furbaby may have, I highly recommend colloidal silver. It has healed every condition that any of my pets ever had. In fact, within the last two months it healed my friend's puppy that had Parvo.
Misty now takes colloidal silver every day as a preventative to insure optimum health.
Thank you Luella for the information. I do not know if this is a fatty tumor or not. We have not had her tested. Could you tell me where I can buy this collodial silver?? Is this topically or does it have to be administered orally? And how much of a dosage are you giving to your furbaby Misty? Our Babe weighs about 18 or so pounds. She's lost a little weight due to the raw diet. It's keeping her rather lean. Thanks again!:)
I would give your furbaby colloidal silver whether it is a fatty tumor or not. It works miracles in animals. The wonderful thing about colloidal silver is that it is impossible to overdose on. There is actually, no set dose, you can sort of play with it and see how she responds. When Misty had her fatty tumor, she was lethargic and not eating well. Besides putting one tablespoon in her water bowl, I would give her one tablespoon three times a day. Actually, I have since realized that you can even increase that dosage. Now that she is well, I put one tablespoon in each waterbowl and it keeps her healthy, perky, and prevents any type of infection. Colloidal silver also strengthens the immune system. I get my colloidal silver from Utopia Silver. It is of the best quality and I fully trust the company. In fact, if you have a minute or maybe five hours, I could give you testimonial after testimonial on what it has done not only for my pets, but also for me. Another feature that I love is that if you type in Code LR001 on items that are not on sale, you get a 15% discount. And also, Utopia Silver is a sponsor of Curezone.
I will tell you that my life changed upon my finding colloidal silver. It made visits to the vet a thing of the past, as colloidal silver is a natural antibiotic. Well.... Let me stop here, I could go on forever. I do invite you to the Ask Tony Isaacs Forum with any questions you may have. I will be sure not to miss them there. I try to keep my eye out in other forums too. In any event, please keep me posted as to your furbaby's progress. I wish you all the best.
How about ionic Colloidal Silver do you reccomend that? I'm confused as to which Colloidal Silver to get my 13 yr old gurl. She has quite a few fatty benine tumors. Im from Australia. Apparentl we cab make it ourselves?
my mom's incredible 14 y/o yorkie was just today diagnosed with cancer and was given weeks to months to live :( she has a tumor on her neck that is too dangerous to operate on. do you think Colloidal Silver could in any way help? i know it's a long shot but it can't hurt to ask.
My Chows will not eat dead raw meat, like chicken parts from the market. They are very serious about their food; picky and discriminating. I have tried all the most expensive stuff, like frozen “Raw Meaty Bone”, etc., but they will not touch it unless it is cooked. Some days they don’t want to eat much, other days they eat a lot. It is a joke around here that Chows only want to eat when the planets are properly aligned. I think that dead chicken (and other meats that have sat around a butcher shop) has too much bacteria and toxin on it or in it to be safe, even for a dog. My dogs have a large area to roam (several acres) and they catch small rabbits occasionally which they relish and munch down the whole thing (and I mean the whole thing). So I think that raw is natural for dogs, but I do not recommend the meat from a butcher shop or grocery store, even frozen.
I have had experience with a dog getting cancer and I think it was brought on by getting too many vaccinations. The commercial dog foods are all mostly inappropriate food. Commercial dog foods are mostly warmed over garbage. These can cause cancers too, especially if the food gets old. Rancid oils may be cancer causing.
The Colloidal Silver would seem almost mandatory if you are feeding dead raw meat. The silver will help kill off some of the bacteria.
My dogs free feed on a bowel of Innova dry food. There are a few others out there that my dogs will eat, like Timberwolf. Never leave the food container sitting out as the product can get stale. Buy small size containers or keep the food in the freezer. I also feed them cooked foods like, eggs, and organ meats from the organic grocer at our local farmers market. They get plenty of good fats as I cook their foods in coconut oil. They also get flax, fish and olive oils added to their cooked meal. Also I add a kelp supplement. They get a cooked meal two or three times a week. I often add vegitables or brown rice, but never beans. (They will spit out beans of any kind.)
If I had a dog with cancer, I would make sure that the dog was getting plenty of good plant fats to help the liver cleanse the body. I would make sure that the dog got plenty of grass. You might want to mix some of the available wheat grass or barley grass supplements into your dog’s food. Actually it was MH Barefoot herbalist who told me this.
You are dealing with an older dog so you may be fighting an uphill battle. Good luck to you. I hope you find my "Chow wisdom" helpful. Let us know how your treatments work out.
Thank you for the wealth of informatin Luella! I have to say that I am fairly unfamiliar in regards to collodial silver. I've only heard about it once, on the Oprah show where a man had turned blue because of it though he had been taking it in large doses I believe for a very long period of time. I am going to order from this company that you have listed for me. I would like to hear what it has done for you personally along with your furbabies. I know my dog's immune system has gotten weak over the years because of the many antibotics that the vet has prescribed. Maybe I should go to that other forum in the event you miss this post.
I am currently applying castor oil, then I will try coconut oil. Then I ordered something called Cellular Forte MAX3 at Only Natural Pet online which contains IP-6, Maitake and POA Cat's Claw. All to help cells and strengthen the immune system. 2 people had purchased this and mentioned tumors shrinking.
My younger dog hasn't taken to raw meat like Babe has. It is just like your Chows, he prefers to have all his meat cooked. He won't eat it otherwise. In fact, I'll try to give him cold chicken but he'd rather have it warmed up in the microwave! He's so picky unlike Babe. I should mention that all raw meat that I have fed Babe comes prepackaged for dogs/cats. I don't buy from a butcher shop, etc. It is so much easier to purchase it this way where all the proper nutrients are included. She's been on Primal, Dick Van Patten (before they discontinued it), Dr. Billinghurst and currently Nature's Variety. The ingredients are--
I'll mix that with some Beef Tripe as well. I currently use Solid Gold. The smell is awful but she loves her Tripe. Then on certain days, I'll give her basmati brown rice, a few veggies, chicken and Solid Gold Seameal which has 60 trace minerals that includes amino acids, digestive enzymens, flaxseed meal, and 19 different species of sea vegetation including kelp. Even with this diet her tumor has continued to grow quickly so I know I'm doing something wrong. I think I need to strengthen her immune system even more. Can I ask what kind of veggies you add to the rice?? Thanks for all the information, I really appreciate it!!
Well it looks like I did miss this post. It's been almost two months. How is your dog doing. Did you get the colloidal silver? And by the way, the man that turned blue did so not only because he drank quarts a day, but he made his own concoction. It was by no means colloidal silver, even though the media would have you believe it was.
Looks like you are also using good supplements. Cell Forte is excellent and has been known to "melt" tumors, as has colloidal silver.
You are better off putting your dogs on a raw meat diet and if your younger dog, doesn't like eating raw or cold food, at least don't use the microwave. Heat it in the oven. It may take a little longer, but it's much more healthy. And take all grains out of their diet.
If you do run across my post, please let me know how Babe is doing. Also, I would invite you to join my group for pets, Oleandersoup for Pets. This will ensure that I don't miss anymore of your posts, at least.
I wish you the very best and hope to hear some good news.
For those that don't know about affiliate links/codes...it means that when you click on Luella's link to the Colloidal Silver and buy it from the site, Luella makes a commission...
Luella, how are we to know that your information on this form isn't to just convince us to buy from your link so you make a commission? Does Colloidal Silver REALLY work? I'm giving it to our dying dog at the moment, but don't have any real results yet. Its been 2 weeks and I haven't noticed the tumor going down at all...I really hope it works, I just don't like people trying to scam people for a commission.
I made my own Silver, just youtube it...its simple and cheap to make...4 of the small square batteries connected to each other, two wires with alligator clips, two pieces of .9999 Silver NOT sterling. Some distilled water and you can make a lifetime of Colloidal Silver.
BEWARE OF AFFILIATE LINKS - PEOPLE WRITE ANYTHING JUST TO GET YOU TO CLICK ON THE LINK AND BUY...THATS HOW LUELLA MAKES HER COMMISION.
While searching for a new litter/bedding for the birdcage I saw this in the comments of bird site and thought it was good to know.
"The investigation found that aspergillus spores occur naturally in newspapers at safe levels until they hit the age of 2 weeks. Then the number of spores found in newspapers starts to increase exponentially with the age of the newspaper. The implications of this have led to Australian Wildlife Carers being taught to only use ‘new’ newspapers to line cages and enclosures."