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i haven't been on this forum in a while. however, i just want to say how disgusted i am by the advertisements for resolve herpes on here.
people, i personally used resolve herpes back in 2009. it doesn't work. take it from someone who took it, posted a blog about it, and did the same time with a lot of other people who decided to track progress online on a site called the hub.
we paid the $299, and the extra money to get the booster.
while we're at it:
bht doesn't work either. i tried that.
i will tell you what has been working for me:
i found that what i was eating triggered outbreaks. through trial and error:
I found that ompletely cutting out corn syrup out of my diet (no soda, no grape jelly etc) and taking 2000 mg lysine in the morning on an empty stomach significantly reduced my breakouts to a bare minimum.
when i feel an outbreak coming on, i up my lysine dosage to 2000 mg twice a day and fortunately for me i respond to valtrex so i take 1000 mg of valtrex once a day for two days and that pretty much ends the outbreak.
there is no cure but there is a feasible way of living with it.
please don't listen to the rest of these companies posing as real people, i've spent the money and done the work for almost 23 years (really!). none of it works.
just figure out what triggers your outbreaks and go from there. there are still real people on this forum that care.
feel free to contact me if you have any questions. i will answer you because this is just ridiculous!
Yeah. I have had mine for years and I have learned that certain types of food can trigger the outbreak. And that your thinking/perception also may be a factor. Personally, keeping myself away from dairy products limited the number of outbreaks and I was under a program called thesolutiontoherpes.com which totally suppressed my outbreaks. Totally happy with it.
I apologize for taking so long to answer. I was actually out of the country for a few years working and could not access anything appropriately enough to respond.
I reiterate what I posted before years ago: nothing really works but just regulating your diet, and avoiding the trigger foods/situations that will cause an outbreak.
Any food with a higher level of arginine to lysine in it will probably cause an outbreak.
For example, almond milk won't work for me because it will cause an outbreak, so will cashew milk, hemp milk, chocolate, peanuts, etc. however, ..regular cow's milk will do fine. so i drink fat free or skim milk.
Please search online for the many lists/charts of foods that show the ratio between these two amino acids.
Regarding herbs: Don't be fooled, just because something is an herb, be aware that there are herbs that will trigger an outbreak, it is all trial and error and everyone's physiological make up is different.
There is no magic bullet, there is no one food or pill that's going to make it all go away. There is no cure.
However, if you keep your lysine intake higher than your arginine intake, if you lay off aspartame, high fructose corn syrup and preservatives in food, you have a fighting chance of leading a life of some consistent relief.
Oddly for me, white Sugar is okay, as long as it's not high fructose corn syrup so I was happy when, manufacturers began selling 'organic' soda....soda with regular Sugar and not HFCS.
I recommend only this: Start the day with 2000 mg of lysine on an empty stomach.
Eat fish, cheese, try to keep things low fat so your cholesterol levels won't climb.
And keep those arginine levels lower than lysine. I know it's hard when you're not home, but drink water in place soda when eating out and when you travel and you can't look at the backs of labels to see the ingredients, then take 500 mg - 2000 mg extra lysine with each meal.
I repeat: no, no, no resolve herpes does not work, herpes solution does not work, there is nothing that can cure any strain of herpes (oral or genital). Stop looking for a cure and start looking to live with it honestly for yourself.
After you have your plan, go out, live your life and save your money ... I've spent all the money there is spend and agonized enough about it to learn that life is too short.
Let me say this:
If you want a cure just so you can avoid THE CONVERSATION, that is, telling a future partner that you have herpes, please understand, that won't happen either.
Every time you meet someone with the intention of exploring an intimate relationship with him/her, you will have to have THE CONVERSATION. Yes, there is a risk, they can walk away, there is a risk they will tell everyone they know about it. Yes it is not just embarrassing but probably one of deepest confidential secrets each HSV2 person carries that exposes the very worst part of ourselves.
I'm not perfect, I admit, I struggle with it every time I have an outbreak, subconsciously spewing hate toward the person that gave it to me. Beating myself up emotionally for being so careless with my body.
But here's the thing, outbreaks don't last forever, and I'm learning they do lessen with time as long as I do what I'm supposed to do (and I've had the virus since 1988).
I am learning, we can only do what we can and live with: we have to be honest with ourselves and live with the reality of that we will have to have THE CONVERSATION with each and every new partner that comes along.
Comfort yourself in knowing that the right person you have THE CONVERSATION with will appreciate and be impressed with your honesty. They will be so impressed, they will do all they can to hold on to you. They will love you so much, they will protect your secret more than you will.
And who knows, you may have to make a decision with someone who has to have THE CONVERSATION with you and it won't be about HSV2, it will be about HIV.
I am learning to have some perspective and my hope is, if you have HSV2, you will too.
I totally asked this a few weeks ago when I first found about Miracle-Mineral-Supplement . Do a search and you will find some threads on this.
I have taken internally hydrogen peroxide and I just started Miracle-Mineral-Supplement ...
I have gotten up to about 20 drops a day with hydrogen peroxide for a few months.
Hydrogen peroxide is NOT EVEN CLOSE TO MMS!!! MMS IS WAYYYYYY stronger of an oxidizer! Not even in the same league in terms of results.
I use hydrogen peroxide daily to clean my veggies...but DRINKING IT..has SUCH a strong after taste, it is unbearable to me.
With MMS, you can mask it with juice...
MMS is in a class all its own and should not be compared to hydrogen peroxide. The other thing is that Hydrogen-Peroxid goes out of your body in a short period of time..I think I remember like an hour...but MMS stays for 12 horus actively working!!!
Is it okay to as both hydrogen peroxide and mms for hsv1 I've read threads that it actually lowers the antibody count for herpes meaning it basically cures the herpes and u have no more outbreaks or skin shedding
I thought I read that Miracle-Mineral-Supplement stays in the body for an hour, that is why you take a sip of it every hour for like eight or nine hours to keep it in your system.
I used hydrogen peroxide 35% I use a tablespoon I dilute it in just a little bit of water I rub DMSO all over my gums then I put the water peroxide mixture on it let it soak in deep hold in my mouth twenty minutes since that is supposed to be the number of minutes it takes to kill pathogens, then I spit it out. Of course I'm so careful I put a paper towel on the counter and put gloves on since it the hydrogen peroxide at this concentrated level burns and turns your skin white temporarily so use WITH CAUTION it is not anything like 3%
Geez I would think using 35% Hydrogen-Peroxid would just about remove the gums from your teeth. I'd dilute it with quite a bit of water actually. Hope you added 10 or 11 tablespoons of water to it. How did using nearly full strength peroxide effect your gums?
They both are oxidizers but that's the one of the few things they have in common. Miracle-Mineral-Supplement is a different molecule that oxidizes in a different way. Miracle-Mineral-Supplement oxidizes with the chlorine molecule instead of the oxygen. The oxygen is given off in a neutral state that doesn't oxidize.
Normal levels of oxygen in the blood cannot destroy all of the
pathogens present under disease conditions, however, when chlorine
dioxide is adsorbed with the oxygen it is a different story. When a
chlorine dioxide ion contacts a harmful pathogen it instantly accepts
five electrons from the pathogen, or it might be more descriptive to
say that it instantly tears off five electrons. An extremely fast
chemical reaction is in essence an explosion, and this is exactly what
happens on a microscopic level. The damage to the pathogen is a
result of losing electrons to the chlorine ion and the release of energy.
The pathogen, basically, is oxidized by chlorine ions and as a part of
the action the chlorine becomes a harmless chloride (table salt). Two
atoms of oxygen are released as ions from the chlorine dioxide ion
but the oxygen has little effect other than to attach to hydrogen ions
making water or attach to a carbon ion to make carbon dioxide.
It is the process of the chlorine dioxide ion oxidizing pathogens or
other harmful chemicals that is beneficial to the body. Although the
two oxygen ions of the chlorine dioxide ion are released, their charge
level does not result in oxidation. The same process continues
throughout the body where chlorine dioxide ions contact pathogens.
It does not attack beneficial bacteria or healthy body parts, as their
pH is not below 7. It will also oxidize diseased cells, such as
infections or cancer. In the event that the chlorine dioxide does not
contact a pathogen or other poison, it deteriorates into table salt and
hypochlorous acid that is useable by the body.
The lymph nodes, for example, are one of the areas where the blood
normally releases oxygen to oxidize various poisons in the node and
then it carries the oxidized poisons away to the liver. The red blood
cells carry the chlorine dioxide ions the same as oxygen and thus
chlorine dioxide ions are also released in the lymph nodes. The
chlorine dioxide ions are inert to normal cells but they will destroy
disease pathogens found there.
A minute amount of naturally produced chlorine dioxide is found in
the human body, and one of the chemicals that chlorine dioxide
helps to create as it deteriorates is myeloperoxidase a chemical that
the immune system needs. The immune system uses this chemical,
myeloperoxidase, to generate hypochlorous acid. The body uses
hypochlorous acid extensively to kill parasites, bacteria, fungi,
viruses, tumor cells, natural killer cells, and to destroy some waste
products under normal conditions. However, diseases and body
conditions can result in a deficiency in the hypochlorous acid needed
to destroy the pathogens that are present. This is due to a medical
condition known as myeloperoxidase deficiency. In the case of many
other diseases there are other immune system reactions that can
overcome the diseases, however in the cases of malaria and other
extreme diseases, there is not enough hypochlorous acid to kill the
parasites or pathogens, nor are there any other immune system
reactions that can destroy them. Thus the hypochlorous acid created
by chlorine dioxide as it deteriorates in the body is probably another
mechanism by which malaria and other diseases are destroyed.
MMS uses chlorine dioxide as an oxidizer. Hydrogen peroxide in my opinon is a much safer oxidizer and is more effective. Chlorine is actually a rather poor oxidizer. Reports in the Journal of Health form the 50s for example reported in one yaer over 80,000 cases of hepatitis transmission in chorinated drinking water. The chlorine compound used to "disinfect" water is chlorine dioxide. This is is why the more powerful oxidizers, such as ozone and potassium permaganate, are also used in water treatment these days since chlorine will not destroy many viruses in the presence of organic matter.
Here is a list of common oxidizers in order of strength:
Hydroxyl radical (OH)
Hydrogen peroxide is not only stronger as an oxidizer, but it also breaks down in to water and oxygen. So no toxic byproducts are formed and no chlorine is involved, which may react with organic compounds forming carcinogens (trihalomethanes), and can interfere with thyroid function.
Here is some information on the dangers of chlorine dioxide, which is used to chlorinate public water supplies.
I still feel that the safest oxidizers for health are ozone and hydrogen peroxide as long as they are used properly.
While chlorine and chlorine dioxide both have chlorine in their names, only chlorine chlorinates.
Chlorine forms THM's, chlorine dioxide does not.
Chlorine is ineffective in the presence of organic materials, chlorine dioxide does not have this problem.
Chlorine is only effective in a narrow PH range, chlorine dioxide works over a wide PH range.
I would be interested in reading the Journal of Health issue that talked about these problems. In the 1950's I am not sure they understood the proper CT values needed for disinfection. Both chlorine and chlorine dioxide are effective against hepatitis, so something went wrong during the process. Do you have a link to the article?
Hydrogen peroxide oxidizes everything it comes into contact with. Chlorine dioxide does not oxidize healthy tissue, so it does less damage to living things.
The main reason other disinfection methods are used to purify drinking water is that they are cheaper, or less involved in day to day operation. Chlorine dioxide is more expensive, and the equipment operation requires adjustments for various microbial loads presented in the raw water. Often chlorine dioxide is used as a pretreatment to knock most of the load down, then it is followed up by other methods.
As I have pointed out in previous posts the real reason chlorine dioxide is used over chlorine is because chlorine dioxide is 10 times more soluble in water than chlorine gas, and is a more effective oxidizer.
Here is a list I found of other advantages:
Strictly as a disinfectant, ClO2 offers the following advantages:
• Its bactericidal potential is relatively independent of the pH at between 4 and 10.
• It works better than chlorine for treating spores.
• It needs little contact time.
• It is quite soluble.
• No corrosion is produced at high concentrations, thus reducing maintenance costs.
• It does not react to ammonia or ammonium salts.
• It improves coagulation.
• It is better than chlorine for removing iron and manganese.
As I have also pointed out in previous posts, chlorine dioxide is not very stable and DOES NOT remain as chlorine dioxide when reacted on by other things such as sunlight or water:
In the presence of UV light, chlorine dioxide breaks down to chlorine and oxygen. This does not take place in closed loop systems.
The reason THM's are formed in the cooling systems of power plants is that the water is cooled in cooling towers that expose the chlorine dioxide in the water to UV light. This breaks down the chlorine dioxide to chlorine and oxygen, and the chlorine reaction forms THM's.
It is significant that the EPA limit for THM concentration is 80 PPB. You will notice that chlorine, at 1 PPM produces around 65 PPB, whereas chlorine dioxide, at the same 1 PPM only produces 0.8 PPB. In the Italian power plant, the design was to run 0.1 PPM, which would reduce the THM concentration to 0.08 PPB. They actually ran the plant a levels lower than that (0.05 PPM).
In Brazil the water had a higher microbial load, and they had to use a higher concentration of chlorine dioxide. Fortunately this was only for plant cooling and utility water. Drinking water standards would not allow this level because of the chlorite levels.
You will also note that in all of the studies the levels of THM's reported to cause problems were many times greater than the 0.8 PPB reported in the cooling water system. In a closed loop water treatment system, this level is further reduced, however the reduction, while near zero, is not completely eliminated.
Did you find the hepatitis article from the 1950's?
You missed the part about where chlorite is formed by the reaction of chlorine dioxide on water. Chlorine dioxide is actually a gas, not a liquid. So what is really being bottled is chlorite. Even the website points this out:
It does sound like you know enough about water treatment though to know that the THMs are produced by the reaction of these chlorine compounds on organic material. When talking about about water treatment there is a lot of pretreatment that is going to limit the amount of organic materials present before chlorination of any kind. This is VASTLY different than someone taking Miracle-Mineral-Supplement with food, herbs, or even medications in their stomach. Do you have any studies showing the same low levels of THMs in people's tissues after taking Miracle-Mineral-Supplement with any of these organic substances.
A few other things must be kept in mind. First of all THMs are fat soluble and accumulate in the body. Many poisons are cumulative and do not cause problems in the short term, but can lead to problems long term as they build up in the tissues. And there is the added absorption from what is present in our tap water that absorbs through the skin. I will stick to ozone or peroxide, which I know is safer.
I am still wondering how many people here are willing to drink tap water? After all it is also treated with chlorine dioxide forming chlorite. If the answer is not then I would like to know why. Tap water has chlorite, and in addition has beneficial minerals. And it is super inexpensive. So why not just drink tap water if you want to ingest chlorine compounds?
Yes, I did find the article. I was at the University library and ran across the journal in their used book sale. So I bought the journal for a few of the articles in there that I was interested in. I was really intrigued by that one especially since we were always taught that chlorine kills all pathogens in water. I later found other medical references that also found that chlorine did not kill the polio virus in the presence of feces. The research is out there. Just requires some looking.
You are correct. Chlorine dioxide is always a gas. However, it can be dissolved in water under certain conditions.
Chlorine dioxide, in higher concentrations, is explosive and very dangerous. It can not be transported. To get around this, sodium chlorite is formed. Sodium chlorite is considered stabilized chlorine dioxide. Sodium chlorite can be transported, and when it is activated it will produce chlorine dioxide. The amount of chlorine dioxide available from a sodium chlorite solution is related to its concentration. A 5% sodium chlorite solution has 50000 PPM of available chlorine dioxide. A 28% solution has 280000 PPM available, and so on.
When the PH of the solution is neutral or acidic, chlorine dioxide does well as a gas. When the PH becomes alkaline, it breaks down to the chlorite ion (ClO2 -). It is more effective as a disinfectant as a gas, but it is still superior to chlorine as the chlorite ion.
As you have discovered, the higher the concentration of chlorine dioxide, the more of a chance that it will have a reaction with organic material and form THM's. I believe this is why Jim Humble pays lip service to the 1 PPM concentration in his suggested protocol, yet he overlooks this when you actually measure the concentrations involved. The meat packing industry has demonstrated that higher concentrations of chlorine dioxide will bleach tissues, but since the carcasses were dead, there was no study of the effects of the THM's produced.
Keep in mind that Miracle-Mineral-Supplement does not technically involve chlorine dioxide technologies. It is actually acidified sodium chlorite technology. There is quite a bit of difference, and there are no formal human studies involving acidified sodium chlorite ingestion by humans. The best you can do is review the information on the various forums, but most of these reports have not been evaluated by a medical professional, so we really don't know what is going on.
Tissue samples taken from animals subjected to high concentrations of chlorine dioxide gas (not similar to Miracle-Mineral-Supplement ) have not mentioned any build up of THM in them. However, I am not sure they looked...
The reason I asked about the article is that in the 1950's, people would throw chlorine and chlorine dioxide in together, and they didn't understand the differences between them. There were many cases of people getting sick from impure water, however I am not aware of any of those cases where chlorine dioxide was used as the main disinfectant. These cases lead to better filtering and settling to remove organic material from the water so the chlorination would be more effective. I have only been following water purification for about the past 30 years or so, and I haven't looked back beyond that. I may have to do a little digging into the archives myself.
If Miracle-Mineral-Supplement and Hydrogen Peroxide both have similar properties as oxidizers.. even when they are taken orally, apparently they will only oxygenate the stomach area... as according to Dr. James Hutton.
With peroxide it is not all about oxygenation. Ozone and peroxide are both oxygen sources and oxidizers, but they also have properties not derived from oxygen itself. For example, both ozone and hydrogen peroxide stimulate white blood cell activity. And both are more efficient than oxygen is destroying pathogens.
MMS is not an oxygen provider. Chlorine compounds work by releasing oxygen from water.
I guess that would be a matter of opinion. I can think of a lot of things that would offer a benefit to a problem, but I still would not recommend. For example an acid blocker would have the benefit of reducing acid reflux but I would not recommend these. They give one benefit while creating other problems.
http://www.frequencyrising.com/hydrogen_peroxide.htm ... ... ... Add 1 teaspoon of 12% food grade Hydrogen Peroxide to 1 gallon or 128 ounces of unchlorinated water. ... Drink 4 ounces or 1/2 cup an hour. ... Try to drink on empty stomach. ... Try to drink 8 servings in the day- ... the extra oxygen may keep you awake if you drink at bedtime. ... ... ... When it comes to hydrogen peroxide therapy there seems to be only two points of view. Supporters consider it one of the greatest healing miracles of all time. Those opposed feel its ingestion is exceptionally dangerous, and only the foolhardy could think of enga ... [This message is long. Retrieve the whole message]
A couple other ways to increase oxygen
is to talk to the MD convince him you need the hyperbaric chamber so he calls hospital if you meet the mile long criteria you may go to the hyperbaric chamber or you can buy one.
The other is ozone sauna a medical ozone steam sauna therapy which is nice you can buy one and use it at home
Ozone IV or peroxide IV the prices are high, unless you can cut a deal with the good doctor.
Hi All - I'm an older guy who after 41 months of slow but successful (hair-analysis tested) heavy metal detoxification (cadmium, lead, nickel, aluminium, arsenic, & associated toxic-ratios),using garlic, vit.C, manganese, calcium, coloidal-minerals, raw & vegetable-foods, & etc. - has recently hit some sort of crisis (cleansing type hopefully) - I am experiencing (associated?) excruciating left-leg sciatic-nerve pain which is crippling me - I am otherwise in very good health - has anyone had experience with Miracle-Mineral-Supplement for heavy-metal detox? - I already know quite a bit about Miracle-Mineral-Supplement and have experimented a few days with up to 45 total drops sod. chlorite 28% activated with citric-acid - but I don't want to persevere if MMs simply does not speed-up the heavy-metal detoxing - I have other alternatives such as EDTA to speed up the detox if required - your experiences welcomed
I have never used Miracle-Mineral-Supplement for this type of detox, but I do recommend the following, This is something I use and have been very pleased with the results: ... ... ZEOLITE ... A natural and safe mineral, high in Clinoptilolite, the active ingredient in the removal of heavy metals and toxins from the body ... ... Toxins poison our air, our water, our food, and our bodies. According to the EPA, 70,000 chemicals are used commercially in the U.S., 65,000 of which are potentially hazardous to our health. The Environmental Defense Council reports that more than four billion pounds of toxic chemicals are released in ... [This message is long. Retrieve the whole message]
I hear that German and Japanese lava rocks are a miracle. They call them bio kiyoseki rock. Is there a product that has one of those kind of lava rocks in it? I also want the best and strongest supplement and also the safest and economical. Thank you.
Hi I am so happy to read your post about zeolite as I am worried about mercury and other heavy metals, pestisides like chlordane affecting my health, could you please let me know where is the best kind and place to get it. Sincerely Kim
Someone else needs to give you a direct answer on the Miracle-Mineral-Supplement , but my suggestion is for general cleanses.
In your history it does not say you have done any cleanses for the liver/colon/kidneys to speed up their outflow.
You can get information on the different forums. Sciatica is often helped by liverflushing too.
Thanks Hanna and jck91 - I await the details of the Zeolite, and in regard to general cleansing I was v. fit and on a general vegetarian and raw-food cleansing diet from 1985 so was quite surprised when I experienced crippling sciatic pain in early 2006 which led to a hair analysis indicating heavy-metals and chemical toxicity - at first satisfactorily controlled by the protocol listed in my first post - until April this year when the crippling sciatic-nerve pain re-emerged in defiance of that longtime protocol - I apparently need a cost-efficient alternative or addition - perhaps Miracle-Mineral-Supplement , zeolite, EDTA, or suchlike - urine therapy can be very powerful but for this type of thing requires up to a 40 day fast, which I am unable to consider at this time - best regards - broh
thanks jck91 - the nat. powder zeolite sounds cost effective - two bottles for a hvy metals detox works out at about A$110 as against $2000+ for I.V. chelation - and I note that it is used also as a vet. and stock medicine - lots of testing there - best regards - broh
Here is something else you may want to consider taking with the Zeolite. I use it on a daily basis. When used it prepares the cells or conditions them to receive (increases cell uptake) vitamins, minerals, nutrients, oxygen or whatever one maybe trying to get at cell level
I used Waiora's NCD for heavy metal detox for 8 months (mercury, lead, cadmium). The last month I only did Miracle-Mineral-Supplement and it worked just as well (I had been tested at 8 months too and at the end). I am still taking 6 drops/day of Zeolite for maintenance and also Miracle-Mineral-Supplement , but not consistent with the MMS.
My practitioner said I was low in minerals so recommended Concentrace, I took that for a while then switched to 10-20g per day (1-2 scoops) of URI's "The Feast" to up my good minerals and that tested to work also.
One of the interviews with Jim Humble mentions someone who was successful with mercury detox in just a week or two on MMS. I personally think MMS is 'stronger' and quicker than Zeolites.
While I used Waiora's Zeolites and they worked fine (the only side effect would be constipation if you don't drink enough water and fuzzy head if you start detoxing too fast, in which case just cut back on the dosage), I would HIGHLY recommend the zeolite/humic sold by Dr. Bill Deagle at Nutrimedical.com Once I run out of Waiora's, I will be getting those next. It is simply a better thought-out product that should be more effective and safer for the body than powdered zeolite or Waiora's NCD.
Dr. Deagle also recommends the Lectrochi foot bath. I don't have one YET!
I am also helping a miner of 40-years who has so far started detoxing with mostly MMS. He has splotches on his skin and shaking hands (I think Mercury and lead are his main problems, but we have yet to get him tested properly.) Most of his shaking hands stopped shaking in just 4 days on MMS at 3 drops 2x/day. He also noticed other things working better in his body.
I would recommend listening to audios in the Learning section and Archives at http://www.nutrimedical.com
You will find many on detoxing.
For testing, I would suggest listening to 051607Hr1 IMMUNOSCIENCES Toxic Immune Labs Tests on the 2007 Archives page at nutrimedical.com > Learning
Dr Aristo Vojdani of http://www.immuno-sci-lab.com/
has the MOST comprehensive testing which might help get to root of your sciatica problem. You will need to have a health practitioner order the tests. Dr. Deagle can serve as a consultant also if you like. Listen to any of Deagle's audios or catch his radio show and you will be impressed. (Sorry I am an unabashed cheerleader of his!)
Thanks livegr8, I'll study your post and links in further detail - I already have the ingredients for my slow old protocol plus mms, and the moreless alkalysing protocol, whereas I would have to sent away for edta, zeolite, and any other products deemed necessary - best regards - broh
Toxic metals are all too present in our environment, including our food, air and water. For sensitive individuals, even mercury amalgams may cause serious problems. These heavy metals can cause a severe drain on the body';s ability to function, including creating damage to the immune system.
The FDA has smashed Daniel Smith, 45 like a bug for selling Miracle Mineral Supplement (MMS)liquid as a miracle cure for cancer, AIDS, malaria, hepatitis, Lyme disease, asthma, the common cold and other diseases and illnesses......
“.....MMS is a mixture of sodium chlorite and water. Sodium chlorite is an industrial chemical used as a pesticide and for hydraulic fracking and wastewater treatment. Sodium chlorite cannot be sold for human consumption and suppliers of the chemical include a warning sheet stating that it can cause potentially fatal side effects if swallowed.”
"... Smith created phony “water purification” and “wastewater treatment” businesses to obtain sodium chlorite and ship his MMS without detection by the FDA..."
"...“Bishop” Jim Humble created his church, Genesis II Church of Health and Healing, an MMS retail business more than religion, according to Consumenr Affairs. After BP/Transocean’s 2010 Gulf of Mexico Oil catastrophe, MMS salespersons were busy successfully pushing bleach to the desperately injured Gulf Coasters....Injuries included severe nausea, vomiting, and life-threatening low blood pressure from dehydration. ..... Consumers with MMS should stop using it immediately and throw it away, the FDA said."
AKA “Advanced Oxygen Therapy,” “Cleansing Water,” "Sister to MMS".......
"... Ms. Fink,.... died within 12 hours of ingesting MMS. Mr. Fink wrote:....From almost the moment Silvie drank the mixture of MMS and lime juice — which she’d brewed up according to the instructions.... — things went wrong. She became nauseated, and was soon both vomiting and suffering from diarrhea. But since the MMS literature emphasized that this was a normal reaction, she assumed it would pass. It didn’t. It turned into a day of torture....."
"Australia’s TGA banned MMS advertising due to marketers’ inability to substantiate their claims as to its efficacy.....“At least ten Victorians have been poisoned by MMS in the past five years with four needing to be hospitalized."
Over the past decade thousands of Americans have quietly abandoned the use of prescription antibiotic drugs and have turned instead to the use of safe, natural colloidal silver.
In fact, when people discovered they could cure the vast majority of their own infections – quickly, safely and effectively with just a few dollar's worth of colloidal silver – word began to spread rapidly among the American public.
Why Big Pharma Sucks
The giant pharmaceutical companies quickly realized they would soon be losing tens of millions of dollars annually in sales of their expensive prescription antibiotic drugs if they didn't do something about it.
Initially, they demanded that the FDA ban the sale of colloidal silver altogether. But try as they might, the FDA couldn't find sufficient grounds for a ban.
After all, colloidal silver has a fully documented 90-year medical history of safety and effectiveness!
Not to be stopped, the big drug firms rapidly switched gears: They began pressuring the FDA to restrict the public's access to information about colloidal silver.
They simply didn't want any more people to learn how powerful and effective colloidal silver really is against infectious microorganisms and the deadly diseases they can cause.
And in a move that has stunned the medical community, the FDA promptly bowed to the wishes of the global pharmaceutical giants, placing into law the infamous new “Final Ruling” on colloidal silver in July 1999.
In spite of its medically documented 90-year history of safe and effective use, the FDA actually ruled that colloidal silver can no longer be sold in the United States if it is described as an infection-fighting agent!
Instead, it can now only be described as a “mineral supplement.”
If it is described as anything else in the advertising and labeling, the FDA can shut down the offending company and confiscate its inventory!
In essence, the FDA has ruled that the American public no longer has the right to know what a powerful and medically proven infection fighting agent colloidal silver is!
How Could This Happen?
How could this happen in America today?
The truth is, it has become abundantly clear that the FDA is now little more than the enforcement arm of the major drug companies!
Literally billions of dollars in profits are pocketed annually by these pharmaceutical giants thanks to the monopoly they hold on the sale of expensive prescription antibiotic drugs.
And safe, natural colloidal silver is considered to be the biggest threat of all to that multi-billion dollar annual monopoly on prescription antibiotics.
Of course, anything that threatens those kinds of profits – and promises to put the power to heal infections back into the hands of average Americans – must be regulated into oblivion.
And the FDA's perverse “medical Gestapo” now uses the infamous 1999 “Final Ruling” to do just that!
The First Amendment Rules!
Thankfully, the word about the phenomenal medical history behind colloidal silver, and its amazing proven infection-fighting qualities still manages to leak out under the First Amendment.
Through books, news articles, newsletters, and independent media that are not beholden to Big Pharma, the public is gradually catching on. The facts are slowly emerging.
And today, an estimated 10 million people throughout North America use colloidal silver to heal their own infections, and to stimulate immunity and heal illness and disease.
But the day is rapidly dawning in which all health information will be controlled by the medical bureaucrats, in spite of the First Amendment.
Tho Pharma companies are still fighting to propagandize Silvers internal use dangers to MDs (and subsequently to their patients via word of mouth).
They must've lost a big part of the war on Silver as infection fighter when the companies that make wound dressings started adding silver (just as Dr R Becker did 60+ years ago) to their products. So now even generic band aid strips advertise Silver's infection fighting qualities on the packaging.
I don't really want to do a yes no type argument thread, but---
Responding to the anecdotal reports on the dangers of MMS is difficult since they are someone's interpretation of an experience and while often passed on as reliable, their reliability rests on their inclusion in a large enough, a preponderance, of like minded claims, as opposed to a smaller number of claims with an opossing or differing position. None of the anecdotal claims opposing MMS used, in this instance, has met that requirement. So we can rely on the much larger number of positive resulting anecdotal claims which also square with the science on the subject.
Old news for many on CZ, but still interesting for the historical perspective and the continuing saga of money and power vs health and happiness and how innocent understanding can become coerced, embroiled in and convinced by propaganda type deception.
Science tells us that activated MMS, (chlorine dioxide), AG+(colloidal Silver), H2O2(hydrogen peroxide) are all oxidizing agents, safe to use by those understanding their principles and powers.
Safer than many over the counter and prescription drugs, these are simple oxidizers, with powers that put them comparatively, to prescription meds, in a superior class of inexpensive and appropriate choices for many illnesses, ailments and diseases.
First some FDA history: DMSO was propagandized by the authorities as a useless, dangerous and toxic substance. Illegal to be sold for human use it could only be purchased for animal use. The FDA had never tested a substance for toxicity as rigorously as they tested DMSO, and no substance they had tested, up to that time (the 60's), had ever been found to be so NON-TOXIC.
The state of Oregon's legislative assembly decided to approve for human use the sale of DMSO. The FDA notified them that they(the FDA), were the regulating authority in the matter and if they proceeded to allow sale of DMSO for human use in Oregon, they would be breaking federal law and would be prosecuted. The legislature responded, saying, fine, see you in court. The FDA dropped the matter without any action, and in Oregon, where Dr Jacops, the early investigator and popularizer of DMSO (and the derivative MSM) worked, it became available in other than veterinary settings. It is the fastest reliever of intercranial pressure, a powerfully effective free radical scavenger, a fluid so transporting that a small amount on one's skin will become evident by a DMSO taste in the mouth in 8 seconds. ect ect ect.
MMS: for those either not, or ill informed: "The Miracle Mineral Supplement on Wikipedia article, is a piece of misleading, unsubstantiated and deceitful propaganda, with a collection of cited references that can be summed up as mainstream media propaganda, unfounded press releases or otherwise irrelevant information. At no point is the reader presented with cited data relevant to MMS" http://mmswiki.is/index.php/Miracle_Mineral_Solution
"Although the word Chlorine is in the name, like table salt (sodium chloride), it is totally different from common household Clorox Bleach or pool chlorine, which are both poisons known to be cancer causing if they are used on or in the human body. Chlorine Dioxide has an ability to destroy (through oxidation) disease causing microorganisms that may be on or in the human body. Because of the chemical nature of chlorine dioxide it destroys these microorganisms in such a manner that it is also destroyed at the same time, leaving nothing behind but plain table salt, discharged oxygen atoms, and dead microorganisms".
"In December of 2012, The Water Reference Center (WRC), an affiliate organization of the Red Cross, performed a documented field test in Uganda where 154 malaria patients were treated using (activated MMS) sodium chlorite. All 154 patients were (free of symptoms previously being experienced and considered) cured of malaria within 24-48 hours of treatment. The WRC and the Red Cross insisted on keeping the results quiet. Eventually the results were made public in May 2013 via a (leaked) amateur video---. (Subsequently)-- a professional video produced by the WRC was discovered and released showing the details of the test along with glowing (positive) statements by Red Cross officials".
"700,000 deaths are attributed to ingesting medical pharmaceuticals each year in the USA".
"It is estimated that millions of people have ingested chlorine dioxide as water purification chemicals, as stabilized oxygen sold in health food stores for 80 years, and as preservation chemicals used on vegetables and fruits, without a single death attributed to its use. A 1981 study showed no ill effects on humans when consuming even higher levels of Chlorine Dioxide than MMS treatment normally suggests using".
"The FDA has approved the use of Chlorine Dioxide (activated MMS) for preserving fruits and vegetables, for water purification, as disinfectants used in hospitals, and for other uses. However, the FDA is firmly against using Chlorine Dioxide for medical purposes. If MMS were to be approved for medical applications, then billions of dollars now paid for medical drugs would (obstensible) be lost to the pharmaceutical companies. Unfortunately, there is a revolving door between the FDA and the pharmaceutical industry---".
As I recall, Louis Daniel Smith was sentenced to 51 months in prison. To which I'd add, he had apparently served well over a year while in custody awaiting trial. And so he could potentially be out in less than 2 for good behavior if the time served was consecutive to his sentence. - That said, I don't understand why he was sentenced to prison for such a crime personally - makes no sense
RE: That said, I'd also question if the FDA served him with a cease and desist order prior to either, before investigating or after concluding that he was in contempt with the law?
UPDATE: I wanted to add that it appears as though Louis Daniel Smith did in fact receive multiple cease and desist letters from the FDA on the matter of promoting and selling MMS. - That said, and based on my research, it would appear that this was pivotal in the prosecutions case against him.
And finally, I question why the courts denied the defendant the right call evidence during his trial as indicated on the Louis' support page. Though I was not able to find a disclosure of the trial transcripts and due process.
I'd also add that Louis Daniel Smith was apparently given a plea bargain, which he denied in favor of a trial. And that the plea bargain would have spared him jail time in exchange for three years of supervised probation.
However, and in spite of this, it remains that Louis Daniel Smith did commit fraud to import dangerous goods into the US. To which I'd add, would have likely seriously impeded his credibility with the courts.
Beyond this, the FDA's policy on mislabeling alternative health products is that people are not permitted to make any medical claims of cures with alternative health products. Though I'd add that this in itself should not impact our ability to either share product and information, let alone, Colloidal Silver, given the level of awareness associated with the product.
PS. For what it's worth, I make my own MMS derivatives(called CDS) from Sodium Chlorite. Which in itself, is not illegal to purchase in Canada. It just cannot be purchased or sold as medicine for ingestion. And so, in short, people can still get MMS without conflicting with FDA regulation, in much the same way that we can buy any other alternative product by making it ourselves. The trick of course, is to stop trying to label and sell alternative products with medical claims. To which I'd add, so many people seem intent on doing.
I would also add that while it is illegal to sell Miracle-Mineral-Supplement anywhere in North America, that it is possible however to buy and sell the Sodium Chlorite used to make Miracle-Mineral-Supplement . Though I suspect that if this were ever done in conjunction with MMS, that it could ultimately lead to charges of conspiracy. Which incidentally, was one of the leading arguments in Daniel Smith case.
No wonder the FDA & Big Pharma wants to make MMS illegal. It REALLY WORKS ! At least externally. However serious problems can occur when taken internally as posted in earlier messages.
I stumbled into these photos while looking for a connection to Bartholomew Cysts.
BTW) I also found a testimony that 25% DMSO mixed with 75% Colloidal Silver DECIMATES toenail fungus. I will be reporting on this one for my own toenail fungus. I have a small spray bottle ready to go.
Bravo Griz, More proof that knowledge is power and that we only need be open and available to it, never clinging neurotically to considerations once thought to be true, but now proved invalid by revealed and substantial evidence.
(Now if your up to it, look further and find how internal use is also safe and only uncomfortable when neglecting prescribed protocol).
Now we all might consider how the FDA does the bidding of unscrupulous people. Who controls the FDA, who decides? Is there a battle raging somewhere over these issues and who is on which side in that tug of war between our health and their wealth.(Which in some ways is insane because we all are destined to become ill and don't we all, no matter our position on these matters, want what really works?)
I propose that the answer is, that the situation has become too complex for the people that originally gained control of it. (Wealth buffers people from Reality, unseen but powerful investors harass company boards, research proposals and results are considered on their monetary value rather than health merits, lower level managers get hammered with "the bottom line", and on and on it goes ect ect. And the flow chart of all this, just like our own metabolic flow chart, dwarfs any one, or two, or three million persons. Heck, the sophistication and the data components involved are like the extreme numbers of microorganisms living in our bodies, and then there's us. The once high and mighty puppet masters have become puppets to a system that cares little for any of us as individuals, no matter our socialy considered grandeur. Ironic how selfishness breeds comeuppance, and ultimate selfishness discovers it ultimately).
And that, at lesser minion levels of that complexity, some people, w and in power, fight on, not realizing what is really happening because of the level of lifestyle complexity buffering them from knowing the specifics of this actually quite simple dilemma.
And furthermore many of us misread the situation, blaming the governing agencies, as if they were individual entities, where the people involved are actually just as ignorant by the very same levels of created social life complexity that have ensnared the higher ups, and in the end we improperly impute blame to legislative policy and law making bodies, wholesale, rather than to the fear based, reactionary, unthinking mentalities, who in their positions are more like the abusers in a battered spouse situation, rather than like two opposing sides in an open and honest brainstorming debate.
Our battle is not against people but a mind set, tho we all seem to easily find a convenient enemy in others. The rich vs the poor, the age generation gap, the opposite gender, those of a different ethnicity or philosophical persuasion. But the real enemy is our own mentality and manifests by the misplacing of our own ignorance, with an enemy, that other person or group or mindset (as real or obvious as that seems to be), and in doing so we frustrate our discerning of the real personal growth predicament we face.
Fear (false evidence appearing real) is the healthy mind killer. Knowledge destroys ignorance.
Excellent information indeed!
The oxidative power of Miracle-Mineral-Supplement can yield amazing results in certain cases and this truly one of them.
That said, did I ever mention that a documented case of mild Argyria was completely reversed(cured) using DMSO and Miracle-Mineral-Supplement products?
For anyone interested in seeing just how powerful MMS truly is in such cases, try adding a few drops to a glass of Colloidal Silver (any type) and observe the results. - oxides, sulfides and other silver particulates, completely disassociated in the blink of an eye.
Question is why hasn't anyone in research considered such treatments against the standing conclusion that there is no known cure?
"You read it here first folks, Argyria can be reversed using DMSO and MMS products"
PS. the person in question has since regained a beautiful pink color in his hands and face, and was able to go outside in direct sunlight again. - and what's more, he was able to maintain his daily Colloidal Silver regiment to treat a serious illness that had initially rendered him incapable of day to day function.
Did he rub it on his skin topically or did he take it internally to cure his Argyria ? How long did it take?
Today I experimented with 3 drops of DMSO added to Colloidal Silver in my nebulizer cup because my lungs started acting up again, and WOW! Those 3 little drops of DMSO totally changed the effect, the taste, and the results were greatly improved. I spent the next 3 hours bringing up mucous without coughing. Steve555 was 100% correct! http://www.curezone.org/forums/fm.asp?i=82851#i
Initially we tried applying a combination of DMSO and CDS(Chlorine Dioxide Solution) to the hands through soaking, which appeared to take effect shortly after application. The challenge however was to overcome the application limitations that come with inherent properties of CDS. Particularly in the facial region, as CDS will tend to gas off quite readily at room temp.
The next phase was to undergo a 30 day course of the original Miracle-Mineral-Supplement protocol(19 drop target 2 x day) to reach total permeation. To which I'd add, the Miracle-Mineral-Supplement proved quick to react in that the face and hands began to show signs of normality long before ever reaching the full force of the treatment as anticipated. - that said, the treatment did continue for a total of 30 days.
I'd also add that the subject drank plenty of fluids along with a complimentary of electrolyte supplements, vitamine C,D and E (100mg x 3, 1000iu x 2 and 2 x 400mg p/day), and took the initiative to sweat as much as possible on a day to day basis, either by going to the sauna or working out. So as to promote the passage of the Chlorine Dioxide through the skin.
Having said all that, and in spite of the positive outcome, I'd add that this particular case was mild to begin with, and so I'd prefer to remain cautious in that more research will be needed before drawing any firm conclusions.
And it may be illegal in Australia, but here in the states you can buy it from Amazon, healthfood stores, and even most pharmacies.
Sulphur is a key ingredient in most of our cellular processes and been hugely reduced in our food supply ever since agri-business went to petro chemicals for fertilizing in the 80's. Therefore we're all deficient which is one reason insulin levels are so out of control.
Organic sulpher crystals are better and more potent than MMS (no heat is applied in processing) but also quite a bit more expensive. Hopefully organic sulphur crystals aren't also illegal in Australia.
DMSO is interesting stuff but has to be handled VERY carefully. Don't forget that once DMSO is on the skin, ANYTHING that comes in contact with that part of the skin is absorbed into the blood stream as if there was no skin at all.
Dust, chemicals, bacteria, viruses, metals - you name it goes straight to the bloodstream. Many people into alternative health community (probably most) won't touch it because of the risks.
I experimented with it quite a bit for my sons Crohn's disease early on pouring colloidal silver on his abdomen to disinfect where the DMSO would go and hopefully transport some of the colloidal silver into the bloodstream in the bargain.
It did give good results at first and then not so much. Plus my son was so paranoid about things improperly absorbing into his blood stream he finally stopped using it.
We have a mix of Cayenne Tincture and DMSO in our kitchen, ready for, insect stings, burns, cuts, abrasions, dental aches(just a dab), ect. This combo is first aid that often contributes to needing no more aid. (While many like Mr C have mentioned Clays remarkable and beneficial attributes, among them assisting with dental abscesses, I find clay too slow(and cumbersome), whereas the Cayenne/DMSO provokes recovery and relief much faster and often immediate. Since one's fast and one slower, they go together well as an overall treatment choice too for many ailments).
(always dilute DMSO to at least 90%, and Jacops found that often 50% DMSO and water was a good medium)
I was surprised when Jman, I think it was, mentioned a while ago, that there was no DMSO forum on CZ. Many people have mentioned it's use and benefits over the years here. While some, like AK(#461) haven't done quite enough investigation, (like her clinging to classic FDA propaganda rabbit study), and quickly write it off as a toxin, or like Mr C, some claim that we must be veeeeery careful, its daaaangerous stuff, while nothing could be further from the truth. (Sorry Mr C I cant help aiming at that bulls eye you wear).
It has many applications, while being the most powerful transporter by application. Poetic Justice.
We drink it and use it topically wout fear or any of the results predicted by the paranoid. And Heck if we are afraid of bacteria entering our systems thru our skin(we cant be much of an alternative health Doc) then we aren't being very aware of how bacteria, dirt and ect are everywhere and that we ingest far more microbes by breathing and from those on foods and utensils then ever from a swath of DMSO laced topical treatment on our skin. (Is this why the paranoid go around wiping surfaces and repeatedly washing their hands? Microbes? Dirt? While healthy hygiene is one thing, it is funny when we become phobic, cause if we don't get those elements in us to populate as beneficial bacteria and to provoke antibody creation from the pathogen type, we lose in the end with a sub par system, prone to repeating illnesses. More Poetic Justice).
Dr Jacops research: One that seems to always come to mind is from "The Most Persecuted Drug"
Oral DMSO daily in one tablespoon amounts to a 2 yr old girl with Down Syndome and by the age of 8 or so she was far beyond her Doctors prognosis, attending regular school and considered of normal abilities for her age.
There are so many examples of it's efficacy, because of it's natural principles, being an anti oxidant, (free radical scavenger), a very powerul and completely safe tissue transporting adjunct, as well as a sulfur analoge(?) with all of the remarkable benefits of that required substance.
PZ, sorry for the 'barb tinged' humor. I just saw the new Ted Rall cartoon and it kind of fired me up and then I noticed your reply which gave me a temporary bout of Mental Agita.
I think you are overthinking the basic situation and are also in error on your proposition re heavy metals,(tho you will find that mentioned in the strictly assuming extrapolative literature, Dr Jacops states that there is no research evidence of metal deposits from the DMSO/Sulfur group being deposited in brain tissue). (Do let me know if and why you might still think I am in error here).
Spreading toxins, whoa, sounds dangerous. Lets see, toxins already present, hm? If already present they already are a problem, unless stored in the liver, where they only slowly leak out and denigrate the systems functioning (wouldn't want to give that faucet handle a twist now would we. or would we?)
If already present, let them be diluted and spread so as to be exposed for their removal by natural processes. DMSO will actually chelate and clean more than pollute, and after binding as a sulfite compound, will then be expunged by our system within 12 hours.
Ohhhh, so if you have a commercial ointment on your skin, and THEN YOU USE DMSO on top of that, FDA approved (so it must be very safe), commercial ointment-------------? (Pretty dorky move wouldn't you say?) Your talking to the crowd logic of why to be fearful of an alternative treatment. (How more often are we injured by the dull knife rather than a sharpened one?)
(and the angst driven rebuttle is how electing another right winger is somehow worse than the emotionaly infantile candidate).
Have patience, the process is slow for a reason grasshopper.
This little gadget, MSR's MIOX water scrubber is a military-grade water purifier that will generate sodium hypochlorite from adding salt. The resultant chemical will kill anything in the water, including Giardia if treated for four hours. You put pure salt and a few drop of water in the cap, screw on the cap, push the button, and get the option of choosing the strength of the solution for the amount of water needing treatment. The device is highly reliable and easy to use and a great adjunct to Jim Humble's protocol. As a water purifier, it has no filtering capability and the more turbid and cloudy the water, the more ineffective as bugs can hide in the crud. So consider using a simple filter to descum the water supply but realize this mighty pen-sized device will kill everything.
That's interesting information btw. Could you expand on how you discovered this? I think this might be helpful anyone looking to collect data in terms of potential complications with Miracle-Mineral-Supplement .
PS. this is not a challenge toward your claims though the outcome of this discussion could result having your post moved to the debate forum.
I do not know: it was horrible for me; and I took it for a weal, and I started throwing up, in despration before I found out exactly what I had after going to Kevin Cahill and taking the proper meds and recoveing later.
No, Miracle-Mineral-Supplement did not do a thing for; I think this ia bad idea. I of course do not know what kind of permanent damage I may have done to myself.
Alright thanks for responding. I've been "trying" to collect information pertinent to Miracle-Mineral-Supplement use and side effects by others but this has proven to be quite a difficult task. My hopes are to compile an official source of information with regards to the use and side-effects of Miracle-Mineral-Supplement for others in much the same way that we'd find on controlled substances(ie. antibiotics etc).
well, for me it destroyed my digestion, gave me adrenal fatigue, low thyroid, liver problems, depression, anxiety, panic attacks, heart palpitations, inflammation through my whole body, crohn's, it was all kick started by Miracle-Mineral-Supplement . I think the only thing I haven't experienced yet is cancer, but I think I'm moving in the right direction and away from that now. No thanks to Miracle-Mineral-Supplement .
I did however feel good on MMS for the first week or so of use. But I think oxidation and chlorine can damage any part of the body. I can see your list of side effects being huge. I noticed it was especially hard on the adrenals as it gave me that burnout feeling which I thought was die-off.
I was a die-hard MMS supporter before I got so ill. But it turned out to be my biggest mistake.
Not trying to hurt your feelings at all, but you couldn't of used the protocol correctly. You have to really know what you're doing. Also, how come you didn't leave your name. That makes me suspicious as to why you blasted on such a miraculous product without having the courage to use your name. Are you an agent for the FDA? Hummmm!!!!
Well, nobody uses their real name here on curezone, and this person does have a posting history, which makes me think that their feelings are legit about what they think Miracle-Mineral-Supplement did to them.
On the other hand, just because they feel it did this to them, does not make it true. When you start to kill patogens and parasites, bacteria and fungus in the body, start herxing, and then stop, all you did was make whatever you issue might be.....worse. You weaken, and then ultimately make stronger and resistant organisms.
I agree that using Miracle-Mineral-Supplement properly is the way to get the best results, low doses every hour for an extended period of time seem to be helping more people now, rather than the quick punch 2-3x daily that was originally suggested. There were enough recoveries to back up MMS even with this approach, it turned many off, and the cure rate was not as high as it is now with the refined protocols.
That is great to know, although I have been blessed to be pretty healthy, I want to use this knowledge to help many people who are suffereing from cancer because that is what ended my mom's life and also any other issues that people have. I get a cold once a year and if I decide to use this great product, I am going into to this with the evidence that I can cure myself of ever gettig colds, flu, cavities, and any other issues that may come up in the future. Thanks for your post. I wasn't sure why the person posting was so upset with Jim Himble as he is truly an angel for so many people in Africa and other parts of the world.
Good fof you, that's very nobel. My mother had cancer also.
Yes Jim is a good man, what he is doing, without profit, has never been done before. I just hope it stays under the radar long enough for the data to prove it's worth, and enough people to be healed that the FDA can't stop it.
Griz, I think you're off on this one. There's far more evidence that Chlorine Dioxide(activated Miracle-Mineral-Supplement ), is just another Oxidizer with about the same (just a few tenths higher than AG+, on a scale of 3 or so) oxidizing power than AG+. I like Wikipedia but remember its just people posting the information(and people on unedited Health Forums are often ignorant and immature, overly dramatic and driven by paranoid styles of fear), so we always need to be sure of what's presented before repeating it as actual fact.
Chlorine Dioxide is the worlds most commonly used water purifier, considered safe by the EPA, OKed for food preservation and cleaning by the FDA, and many on CZ have attested to its beneficial power, with the main complaint being it's taste and it's power to cause nausea or intestinal distress(both a sign of cleansing).
Saying its a bleech is missleading and disparaging as a ploy to be distracting and not actually realistic.
ACV, in that case, is also a bleach, as is UV light, or plain lemon juice or H2O2(which it most closely cousins to, but both and all these substances are still regular oxidizers w different power levels). AG+ is only different cause it's a bit less powerful and it has little taste to speak of(tho you know about the AMA's work to radicalize the public and professionals against it using the same horrific styled language).
You know people have said and reported numerous dramatic and frightening similarities about Iodine and CS on the web, but the experience of others and the Science behind these substances convolutes those claims. (lawsuits as evidence-please)
Shrimpy said, "I tried it and it nearly killed me; it did not do a thing for; It will damage your kideneys and liver. BE careful."
"it was horrible for me; and I took it for a weak, and I started throwing up, in desparation before I found out exactly what I had after going to Kevin Cahill and taking the proper meds and recovering later.No, Miracle-Mineral-Supplement did not do a thing for; I think this is bad idea. I of course do not know what kind of permanent damage I may have done to myself."
And then Wicki says this where Wicki is one of my favorite references:
"Sodium chlorite, the main constituent of Miracle-Mineral-Supplement , is a toxic chemical that can cause acute renal failure if ingested. Small amounts of about 1 gram can be expected to cause nausea, vomiting and even life-threatening hemolysis in persons who are deficient in glucose-6-phosphate dehydrogenase. When citric acid or other food acid is used to "activate" Miracle-Mineral-Supplement as described in its instructions, the mixture produces an aqueous solution containing chlorine dioxide, a toxin and a potent oxidizing agent used in the treatment of water and in bleaching. "
This matching Shrimpy's symptoms when using MMS.
And finally the FDA says:
"The U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) has received several reports of health injuries from consumers using Miracle Mineral Solution, an oral liquid also known as “Miracle Mineral Supplement” or MMS. Associated side effects include severe nausea, vomiting, and life-threatening low blood pressure from dehydration. Consumers who have MMS should stop using it immediately and throw it away." Once again matching Shrimpy's symptoms using MMS.
All of these are bright red flags suggesting we should be VERY CAREFUL if we use MMS.
I want to warn everyone of the potential dangers reported by Shrimpy, Wicki & the FDA. I do know it is used by a lot of people and so it has some value but is not risk free. A lot like cigarettes, Pot & cocaine are popular but not risk free. Just BEWARE.
You would do yourself a favor to do a bit more investigation. This substance is just between H2o2 and AG+ in ability and power. As you know Hydrogen-Peroxid is rocket fuel, so any oxidizer needs to be understood for what it is. (even the much safer but less powerful AG+ has argyia as unusual or uncommon, but still real, as that is).
Activated Miracle-Mineral-Supplement , Chlorine Dioxide, no mater the ballyhoo, has the evidence on it's side as just another safe, when used as prescribed oxidizer, (people think nausea or Intestinal distress are reason why a number of things should be outlawed, and if their cheap and easy to procure and effective, the FDA is right on board, driving that Big Business train wreck of propaganda).
Your evidence is suspect for reasons that seem obvious to me.
Id say it is best to believe anecdotal info when it is backed up by a preponderance of similar claims, which this one is not.
That the claims appreciated but not being of a large number not be overly emotional or dramatic, inflaming vs informing and aren't contesting information given out by a reputable unbiased proven source, which the FDA, which is virtually beyond arguing about since we know that not only have all recent agency directors been former pharmaceutical executives or attorneys, but that the drug and policy decisions made by them have continually been biased towards the pharma companies and also harmful to the public. An oxidizing agent that is inexpensive and safe, as sodium chlorite activated into chlorine dioxide has proven over decades of use, would be, exactly like CS, an agent that pharma companies would work to demonise using fear tactics by their minions and public relation ability to confuse the issue with the general public.
If all disgruntled people can describe are, classic examples of oxidative stress, than the onus is on them to disprove the safety record and excellent results of hundreds of thousands of recent personal users, undoubtly millions since its the most commonly used water purification chemical in the world chemical, far safer then chlorine and with none of the lasting serious unhealthful affects that chlorine does to water.
#2 Anecdotal info ?
Really Griz this is something that is under your radar at the moment but easily discovered to be different than your presently inclined to think. There is so much evidence exactingly like covering up the vaccination truth or in an opposite but exactingly similar vein, the demonizing of Colloidal Silver , tho now the public and the medical buisnesses have found it to be too good to ignore so they, pharma and the FDA, lost that battle.
"They" still tell the general public with press releases mimicking research reports that, apricot kernels are dangerous(guess again on that correct protocols % of success over standard of care cancer treatment there). "They", these same types you are siding with here claim in every way they are able that all alternative cancer treatments are worthless, ect ect ect
Keep on open mind and seek out both sides statements of facts, compare them and I think you will realize that the poster and reports like his are easily understood and have no real evidence to base their suppositions of danger on. Its exactly again, not a question of reletive risk, its question of representing the truth of a substance or an opinion that is an uninvestigated immature knee jerk reaction.
I don't really care and I figure you don't really that much either but sometimes theres a line in the sand----and sides need to be delineated so that it becomes evident that one side is quietly being prodded from behind, "crucify him, crucify him".
Guilty Verdict reached
"A federal jury in the Eastern District of Washington returned a guilty verdict yesterday against a Spokane, Washington, man for selling industrial bleach as a miracle cure for numerous diseases and illnesses, including cancer, AIDS, malaria, hepatitis, lyme disease, asthma and the common cold, the Department of Justice announced." http://www.fda.gov/ICECI/CriminalInvestigations/ucm448541.htm
He violated a major rule by making health claims for his product. The Drug Industry does not allow health claims to be made for alternative health products. There were clearly some problems expressed by some people. He is stiffing the Drug Industry by selling his product to cure any disease. When it comes to the FDA, they are on the payroll of Big Pharma.
"Daniel Smith will face a trial in less than 30 days, the culmination of close to 5 years of legal battles, that could result in him spending 37 years in prison if convicted.
Because the FDA has not approved his product for health claims.
Has the product killed anyone? No.
Do FDA approved products kill anyone? Yes.
"According to statistics published by medical authorities themselves, FDA prescription drugs are one of the top causes of death in the United States, and probably the #1 cause of death among Americans today.
"An older study published by the Journal of the American Medical Association in 1998 stated that 106,000 people died from prescription drugs every year, and the CDC has previously stated that overdoses of FDA-approved prescription opioid pain relievers now exceed deaths involving heroin and cocaine combined.
Bottom line: We can't fight the Big Pharma Gestapo, the FDA will come down like a ton of bricks to squash a bug. Whether MMS works or not is not the issue. Claims cannot be made without the FDA attacking.
I have no doubt that our Gestapo FDA & Big Pharma are coming after our Colloidal Silver next. Big Pharma is losing $$BILLIONS in business income because of Colloidal Silver . We need to get ready for a rumble.
IMO, stock up on silver bars as the FDA may try to make silver illegal to buy, calling it a controlled substance. I think silver is a great investment at today's prices, less than $17 an ounce.
MMS is a wonderful product and has helped me and others in many ways to kill bacteria, candida, cancer cells. I am so grateful for that. However, it DOES NOT kill parasites in the gut. I know from personal experience and my parasite problem has been greatly delayed by thinking that Miracle-Mineral-Supplement kills parasites. I am killing them NOW with herbs, DE (diatomaceous earth) and a zapper. I am going for a very deep and thorough cleanse b/c it is clear to me that parasites have been the underlying issue of my chronic fatigue symdrome. I am using Miracle-Mineral-Supplement to address the inflammation and control the bacteria created by the die off of the parasites in my gut. People need to know this! MMS does not kill tapeworms, flatworms and roundworms. I KNOW b/c I am killing them now with paracidal herb treatment & cutting them up with the ground silica of DE. My treatment is VERY effective, I have been cleansing for four weeks and continuing. Parasites and parasite eggs have been pouring out of my body. I can hardly believe the amount and variety of parasites passing out of me. I look at my stools everyday. I should have done this years ago! Shame on the M.D.s and even naturopaths who are ignorant of parasitology and down playing the role they play in limiting out health and vitality.
We ALL have parasites. Hulda Clark said that no one she ever tested for Tapeworms tested negative, including herself and her family. Parasites are the underlying factor behind chronic fatigue, fybromyalgia, lupus, allergies, . . . all autoimmune diseases. . .did I say depression? Parasites are the root problems behind more than 70% of disease in humans. Look at humaworm.com, healthwyze.org, kroegerherbs.com, etc. Hulda Clark is the pioneer who was dedicated to this important work.
CFS is very strongly associated with toxic mold exposure, and will go away when the person manages to get out of their mold-infested environment. Please note that mold is often not visible and may have no odor. I had a pipe leak inside a wall and almost died before someone clued me in (NOT a doctor, they know nothing about mold toxic illness) and I got out. If getting rid of the parasites did not in fact cure your CFS, take a look at toxic mold.
I'm doing a serious rope worm cleanse with Miracle-Mineral-Supplement the last 10 days and I’m noticing these little red seeds. They are strawberry seed size but red, embedded in little pieces of tissue that come out with a big rope release. I wonder if these tissue pieces are where the ropes attach their suckers to the intestine, and then when they are released they bring the tissue with them. These seeds are in every single piece of this tissue I expel and it’s horrific. There’s always at least one, but on bigger pieces it’s 2-3.
The only thing I've seen on this here on curezone was that they might be tied to Morgellons. Anyone have insight?
I'm assuming is something connected to GMOs or those little bugs that have been linked to ropes but not sure. Wondering if anyone else has seen these as well.
I have been taking Miracle-Mineral-Supplement for a nasty case of ropeworm - very successful though intense so far - I will post my story soon.
I know my husband could benefit from Miracle-Mineral-Supplement , but he has no thyroid and takes meds everyday for it. He's also Type 1 diabetic so is always on insulin. Will the Miracle-Mineral-Supplement counteract his meds and/or are his conditions otherwise too complicated?
When I used Miracle-Mineral-Supplement (type 1 diabetic here, had it come in after amalgams) I had higher bloodsugars on max 4 drops/day.
The dieoff symptoms were a bit hard too. I have the feeling the problem was that I wasn't getting enough alkiline minerals and antioxidants to help clear the load.
Type 1 D and the hypothyroidism both have roots in persistent infections that keep the body's glutathione resources busy. (Glutathione is the major antioxidant molecule produced in the body)
Cleansing definitely helps, so you can of course try the Miracle-Mineral-Supplement . His experiences may vary from mine, since each individual is (*gasp*) quite individual.
1 drop MMS to 1/2 liter (2 cups) distilled water, for the whole day, could be a good place to start. I'd say watch for blood Sugar changes. If there's issues, a nap and an Epsom Salt foot soak should help. :-)
Has he tried freeze-dried thyroid as opposed to the synthetic hormones? It's been making a subtle but nice change for me, but he's in a different basket, with the surgical removal of the thyroid. I went to an orthomolecular (vitamin-trained doctor) for instructions and a perscription.
It sucks that he had to get his thyroid removed, but at the time he had a goiter that wouldn't budge and was just getting bigger. We tried everything we knew at the time before doing the surgery. When the doc removed it he said it was the size of a deflated football. ? wow.
I'm going to talk to him about the freeze-dried hormones.
With goiter it's often a resident infection causing the tissue to reproduce uncontrolled.
Iodine allows the thyroid tissue to break itself down to maintain a proper-size gland (Periodic table labels it 'I'). I. is used by the body in checking DNA to see if the cells in this or that tissue of the body are functioning according to instructions, and when they are nearing the end of their encoded lifespans. Viruses and bacteria have the ability to inject foreign DNA strands and mess with the mechanisims to adapt the tissues to make themselves a more comfortable environment- which is often the case with goiters.
Halide imbalance is often a complicating factor in such a situation, in countries where bromides and flourides are used a lot in food, water and textile industry. The body prefers a higher level of Iodine and chlorides (see the salt molecule) vs florides and bromides.
Take care if this info leads you to research further into Iodine supplementation- iodine triggers bacterial dieoff in the body tissues, and can be very rough without first undergoing parasite cleansing and having the iodine cofactors available at home(see the description of the VWT Iodine Forum for links to the full iodine protocol, or see the 'stop the thyroid madness' site via a google search).
Hi, I have parasites for long time and I have started taking mms. I try to follow the parsite protocol as describe by dr. Kalcker. He say that one should do the protocol for at least a year to prevent reinfecting by the eggs. The matter is He says that we should avoid completely taking vit c while doing it. Including some fruits and juices. So I wonder about not getting vit c for a long time. ..Also I wonder about interaction of the mms and magnesium and vitamin A.
Thank you for helping with this issue!!
Acidified sodium chlorite is acidic on the ph scale, but alkalizing in the body. This is why it is beneficial to the body. Certain foods are like this also, including lemons, limes and white grapefruits - all acidic on the ph scale but alkalizing in the body.
Acidity in the body is not only caused directly by the ph of what we eat or drink, but also by its effect on the body, particularly whether it encourages or discourages pathogens. Pathogens, along with their debris and wastes, are a very large factor in creating acids in the body ... consequently whatever decreases the pathogen load increases the body's alkalinity.
The irony is that Miracle-Mineral-Supplement will actually tend to increase acidity in the very short term, and this is the reason that there are so many short-term die off symptoms, and even flues and colds that result. Miracle-Mineral-Supplement is a very potent killer of pathogens, but as they die the pollution in the system is increased dramatically, and this creates a far more acidic system in the short term.
That's why drinking a LOT of water, and doing other simple detox protocols (such as ES and Hydrogen-Peroxid baths) can be so important as adjuncts to MMS.
So, the net result of MMS in the body is, in my opinion, definitely alkalizing, and this is the foundation for any improvements that people see.
In general, I think I agree with you on most points, but here is a little different view on how Miracle-Mineral-Supplement may work in the body.
In industry, ClO2 is used for water purification and to keep food fresh after it has been harvested. It has also been used to sanitize various surfaces and as a disinfectant in wound care. There are also studies showing it is effective in improving oral health.
If you study these applications, one reoccurring theme is the ability of ClO2 to destroy biofilm.
In addition to killing pathogens on contact, ClO2 seems to be able to penetrate the biofilm layers, break it up, and leave it in a state where it is easier to remove from surfaces.
The medical profession has observed the build up of biofilm on pacemakers, heart valves, and other implants, as well as on teeth and in the inner ear. They have also found that bacteria, protected by the structure of the biofilm, continue to live and multiply even in the presence of antibiotics.
It may be possible that the Miracle-Mineral-Supplement protocol is designed around providing enough ClO2 over a long enough time to allow it to penetrate the biofilm layers that have formed inside our bodies. As the biofilm layer is broken down, pathogens are released, and may be released in quantities exceeding the capabilities of the ClO2 available at the time.
How's that for an "outside the box" perspective...?
That sounds entirely plausible, Tom. If by "biofilm" you mean layers of mucuous, mucoid plaque, or other types of layered biological debris that builds up various places in the body, then I definitely agree. This is one of the ways in which ClO2 works.
My own experience with ClO2 is that is broke up things like hardened plaque from the walls of the digestive tract, and deposits in the liver and gallbladder, as well as dislodging mucuous layers. I'm sure that there are pathogens within these various layers, especially within the mucoid plaque of the intestines and the deposits in the liver, which are then freed up and destroyed.
In addition to all of this, Miracle-Mineral-Supplement is also of course a tremendous anti-pathogen, working against the pathogens which are not constrained in mucoid or other layers, but are freely at work in the bloodstream, lymph system or within the cells and tissues of the body ... the net result of ALL of these modes of action is a reduction in pathogen load within the body, and a concommitant increase in alkalinity within the body once the debris is flushed out.
MMS results in increased alkalinity in the body, as does Stabilized Oxygen ... thats why it can bring a tremendous increase in overall health when combined with super-hydration and super-nutrition.
I,m not sure about this drinking a lot of water thing.
I think you should drink enough water so your urine is light in colour
but if you drink too much it may overwork your kidneys and may reduce
their filtering efficiency I dont see how drinking anymore water is going to help them.How does it get any more waste out. Surely it just dilutes it and swells the kidneys
Drinking a lot of pure, alkalized water is one of the keys to returning to health. As long as the kidneys are working ok, they will not swell ... and after a while, your cells will start to absorb more water.
The two greatest single factors in optimal health are drinking a ton of pure, alkalizing water and eating an uncontaminated, green diet.
I AGREE! I filter, ozonate, and restructure my water, and I am long time vegan. I never got sick in over 25 yrs but I got the Morgellons somehow lately. That is why I am here, looking to get advice on how to make my own Miracle-Mineral-Supplement .
My inclination is to say that any symptom following a single drop of activated Miracle-Mineral-Supplement in a glass of water isn't very likely. Though, I'd be interested in hearing if the condition persisted over the course of intermittent trials. (5 days off type of thing).
As for jaw pain, there's always the possibility of interactions between Miracle-Mineral-Supplement and underlying conditions as well as the potential for irritation as the acid component could irritate an existing lesion in a tooth etc. - tough to say without additional information however; amounts, solution type, application etc.
Remember that Miracle-Mineral-Supplement is essentially bleach (sodium chlorite and citric acid /or HCL combine to form chlorine dioxide). In higher concentrations it can be very irritating to mucous membranes.
DMSO is also extremely effective as a skin penetrant (even more so when it comes into contact with mucous membranes) so anything dissolved in it (the Miracle-Mineral-Supplement and anything else in the rinse) will be absorbed very quickly. If the dose was too high for you (everybody reacts differently), then the extremely quick absorption may very well have irritated the area it was most absorbed into.
Another possibility is that you may have come into contact with some toxin or contaminant completely unrelated to the protocol. DMSO can cause contaminants, toxins, and medicines to be absorbed through the skin very quickly, which may cause unexpected effects. Just make sure you're careful when handling DMSO.
Came across some information about combining activated Miracle-Mineral-Supplement and DMSO to use in the mouth to treat all kinds of mouth issues including infections and abscesses. They also talk about how to use activated Miracle-Mineral-Supplement daily as a mouthwash to maintain excellent oral health. As a person who is currently using the oil pulling method and now having tried this, I think that this takes it a step further by really eliminating all bad bacteria from the mouth. ... ... As for it’s ability to effect oral cavitations, I don’t know. The DMSO allows the MMS to penetrate the skin and enter the bloodstream but my question ... [This message is long. Retrieve the whole message]
Don't let anyone tell you all oils are equal for oil pulling- it ain't true.
I swish with coconut oil, then brush with it, and finish with Miracle-Mineral-Supplement and heavy tongue scraping. Poor oral health can also be helped massively with Vit C and maybe Mg/Zinc mouthwashes. I use clay sometimes too, and my own homemade mouthwashes with essential oils in water.
FINALLY A CURE for my clenching and grinding caused me to see a biological dentist he did dental cavitation sent stuff to lab . Lab Results: entamoeba species and serratia liguefaciens . I know I had jaw bone infection even though the doctor said everything looked good .
Most regular dentists when they see clenching and grinding writes it off as stress related and will tell you to lay off the coffee and make a $759.00 custom fit mouth guard, that you can now buy at the drug store for $15.00 . I wanted to look at the cause and not a band aide solution. Granted some people have stress related stuff but for me I have low stress life . My naturopathic doctor is to start running tests for parasites to identify the cause very helpful, if it is stress he will send you to the Life Vessel or meditation, and yoga.
My friend saw the same biological dentist had the same test the lab reported a bunch of bacteria's and,a parasite. I guess this is pretty common! Double Yikes!
Treatment for me was a mouth tincture and three months to get ozone shots in my mouth. I was still grinding my teeth and some my teeth were loose.
Humble suggests holding Miracle-Mineral-Supplement solution in the mouth for 60 seconds well that was not doing anything for me. I made a strong Miracle-Mineral-Supplement solution way to strong it peeled my mouth and my tongue was so sore I had to eat only soup for few days.
Next time I used only to three or four drops of MMS and DMSO and 2 tablespoons of sterilized water . After brushing my teeth and rinsing my mouth our really good, then I would hold the mixture I made in my mouth for thirty minutes to an hour daily this was the answer to my problem. . I stopped clenching and grinding my teeth this infection is finally getting killed. MMS is some amazing stuff
I also got on a long parasite cleanse to make sure that this infections do no settle elsewhere in my body
Hi, I was just wondering if anyone taking mms has experienced joint pain. I took mms for about 2 weeks and stopped because I started to feel exhausted but I didn't realise at the same time some of my joints started to ache, I didn't pay attention to this but till now (over 2 months ago) the joint pain has not subsided I have started to link it to the mms and probably heavy metals breaking down and lodged into some of my joints, could this be a reasonable explanation? and if that is the case what could I do to get better. Help please
How much were you taking?
You're only supposed to take 1-2 drops every couple/few hours as to spread it out over the course of the day.
What do you have that you believe warrants the use of Miracle-Mineral-Supplement in the first place?
I did notice an increase in fatigue when I first started taking Miracle-Mineral-Supplement . I also noticed that joint pain would increase for a few days to a few weeks then slowly improve. I can only speculate, but I believe the exacerbations are related to die off of pathogens.
I am happy to report that my arthritis continues to improve. About a month ago my hands became virtually free of joint pain. My vasculitis also has improved. Sometime soon(?) I'll update on progress with Morgellons.
You may wish to review some of my post in this forum.
Thaks for replying. Wow I am wondering why would be taking Miracle-Mineral-Supplement for such a long time and how safe is it to have an oxidant working inside of your body for such a period of time. It is obvious that it is doing good but shouldn't you be having a break?> I only took it for two weeks and I am still feeling tired and my joints are still aching, will I ever feel better again?, I am afraid to touch Miracle-Mineral-Supplement now, I needed to take it for candida and parasites. I suffer from IBS and am sure it is candida and parasites. I have had treatments from candida in the past which were very successful but very expensive so I though MMS would be the way to go. I just need to get a bit more confidence in using MMS that is why I asked if anyone else had the same experience.
Hello, I can't say for sure, but I think the your joint symptoms may have been die off. I wouldn't necassarily suspect the metals thing, even though you may have metals toxicicty, I have no way of knowing this.
I can tell you that a month ago I figured out I had a parasite problem....was prescribed praziquantel supposedly specifically for the liver fluke and 3 days on that I did notice some dead flukes.....I thought that problem was gone until I started Miracle-Mineral-Supplement . I worked up to 5 drops 3 times a day fairly quickly and now there are more dead flukes. So I can say Miracle-Mineral-Supplement is effective with the liver flukes. I also have candida and do expect MMS to help me with that from the little I have read so far.......so, I guess the bottom line is the trade off of having some groans and pains from the die off vs having these things just making us worse over time. I am personally at the point that I think I have to attack everything agressively and put up with the die off. I also have been doing idoral, coconut oil, and RIFE treatments.....so I am probably looking for trouble in the die off arena......but I want to get better and get rid of this illness once and for all. God bless you and everyone on here for the help they need and for the great contributions that so many post here.......it is a tremendous help!
Blessings and peace to all!
Thanks for your post, it gives me a bit of courage to continue on with the battle against the buggers that have caused me so much trouble over the years. Yes you are right one needs to be aggressive in the treatment in order to get results, hope I can see some parasites one day coming out of me so far I have not seen one.
Hi Dandelion.......It can be a long road.....even for me with many parasite die off, I am still in lots of pain and sick. I guess that was just the first phase. I am sticking with the Miracle-Mineral-Supplement cause of the results I have had so far, in lieu of still being sick. It just tells me there is some light at the end of the tunnel.
I am monitoring my PH which is on the acidic side, taking some coconut oil, and cleaned up the diet. With all the product to create die off, detoxing is the focus now.
Enemas, even coffee enemas are good. I tried a magnesium flush yesterday and that was very effective. I have some "Calm" brand magnesium and it is pleasant to drink....3 tsps of that in a glass of water 2-3 times a day and be prepared to stay home.
I think staying with the Miracle-Mineral-Supplement for candida is good. Keep the diet good as you can and consider some help for digestion with your meals.....even lemon water with a little Sea Salt will help. I'll say a prayer for you and certainly keep praying yourself.
Hi Joe, excuse my curiosity but what is it that you suffer from? what symptoms are the parasites causing you? and have you been tested for candida or you just feel you have it? I am not being a sticky beak but rather want to learn as much as I can about symptoms of parasitic and candida overgrowth. Thank you for all the information you have posted here, it is a great help and encourgement for someone like me afraid to try different things.
Hi Elly, I have been diagnosed with Chronic-Fatigue-Syndrome & Fibro, but as I became more educated, these dx's don't do anything for me anymore, as a matter of fact they are more of a curse than a help. But that is because I relied on medical doctors more than I do now.
The list is long and I really didn't know about the parasites until I actually seen a live one during a prep for a colonoscopy. I have treated candida in the past and it had worked.....but I didn't work at my habits and so I am back at square one with the health. It gets harder to get back on your feet and I certainly have to live with my regrets. Now, I have quit smoking, doing many therapies and supplements and reading everything I can.
Stomach issues, fatigue, and at times just having a yucky sick feeling. Started last year a productive cough.
I have just got tested for lyme and mycoplasmas and suspect chronic pancreatitis at this point. I have my work cut out for me. I encourage you to do everything you can for yourself, continue to learn.....this seems to be a great source of information and it is always encouraging to find out if products and therapies are working for people.
I hope this helps you.
Thank you for replying, sorry I took so long to respond had computer problems. I am sorry to hear you have so much on your plate but don't loose hope there is always a rainbow after the storm. At the moment I am doing the raw food diet and to tell you the truth is the best thing I have ever done for myself. I used to have terrible episodes of diarrhoea and digestive problems,like severe cramping in the bowels, heartburn, bloating, constant nausea, headaches and just feeling terrible all the time. About 4 months ago I was so bad that I lost 15kilos in a very short time, I have always been a bit overweight and just to look at myself after loosing all that weight it was scary I thought I had cancer, anyway I ended up having a endoscopy and colonoscopy, they couldn't find a thing. I decided to go on raw foods 100% and everything started to normalize I have put most of my weight back on because I am hungry all the time and I eat quite a lot now without any digestive disturbances, it is a God sent diet it fixes just about everything, I feel such a difference, my bowels are for the first time in so many years working normally, normal formed stools with no pain or cramping, it is getting better and better, but I think I still need to deal with the parasites and candida which I feel I have both, it is just a feeling nothing has been confirmed. I have pets and always have had them, I've never done a parasite cleanse so it must be done. I would recommend to you to investigate raw food diets they really work better than anything I have ever done or taken and it is yummy once you get to prepare gourmet dishes like raw apple pie and chocolate fudge. I don't consume any dairy live on almond and coconut milk which I prepare myself it is a lot of fun. I encourage you to give it a try it will be the best thing you could do for your pancreas it will regenerate your organs and cells because of the powerful enzymes contained in raw foods, you have nothing to loose. If you need any information just ask me, I have done quite a bit or reading on it and have a few friends who have been raw foodists for a while now. Check youtube there are so many segments about raw foodism it's really fantastic, there is a dvd called raw for life I recommend you download it from the net, it is very informative. In the mean time I will start Miracle-Mineral-Supplement again to try get rid of my internal unwelcomed guests. Thanks so much for your kind words of encouragement and all the information you have provided me.
It seems at higher concentrations of CD that some are having problems with the taste of CD. Don't want to add Sugar to the mix so is Barley Greens powder one of the green drinks that are being used with this protocol? What is the best green juice of them all?
Also I have been asked if eating fruits like bananas, berries around the time of the drink is going to dilute the Miracle-Mineral-Supplement to any extent?
My lymph glands are draining well now but is there any way to accelerate this process? Has anyone added extra citric acid to the diluting water? Thank you so much.
Jurassic Greens, Heavenly Greens, Alkalive Green, Green Kamut.
These are all mixes of organic wheat grass, kamut grass, barley grass, alfalfa, etc...
Barley grass is great, but I personally like a combination, for both nutrition and taste.
I don't have too much problem if I take Miracle-Mineral-Supplement after eating fruit, as I do if I take it near less healthy foods. But, I will also say that even fruit will feed candida in my opinion. It might be a good idea to keep the higher glycemic fruits to a minimum for the first few weeks on the protocol, sticking to grapefuits, lemons, limes...
Dr. Gabriel Cousens, and Dr. Robert Young both promote this idea of limiting fruit during the earlier (transitional) stages of cleansing.
Again, though, I don't think there is any perticular problem with MMS and fruit ... but it is probably a good idea to try to take MMS more often on an empty stomach.
"My lymph glands are draining well now but is there any way to accelerate this process? Has anyone added extra citric acid to the diluting water? Thank you so much."
The only way to accelerate it is to do more MMS. (assuming you are already pre-activating with citric acid )
You have been doing really well ... if you accelerate things, you may quickly enter a period of nasty detox symptoms. And, since you have had such frail health in the past, that could prove very difficult for your body.
Why not just keep doing what you are doing, and make sure you are drinking a liter of water per 40lbs of body weight per day, and shifting your diet gradually to alkaline?
Greetings from India!
I saw a very encouraging post from you regarding using low dose Miracle-Mineral-Supplement in pregnancy.I have been actively detoxing since over one year with Miracle-Mineral-Supplement , liver flushes, raw foods, fasting and the likes. I have just conceived this month and would want to maintain all the hard work I have done with cleaning my body even during pregnancy . In the past, I have suffered from hashimoto thyroiditis, type 2 diabetes and miscarriages. Of course I am much healthier now and conceived naturally at an advanced maternal age .
I really liked the idea of green babies as you have mentioned. Will you be kind enough to guide me about where to get help from?
I am from India and I have limited resources.
Thanks so much...
I use it daily with my Miracle-Mineral-Supplement and wheat grass powder. It is widely recognized as safe for candida and bacterial issues. It won't feed these organisms, in fact it is a mild preservative meaning it has some anti-septic value.
This is the only sweetener I use, and have done so for at least a year now. It draws in water molecules and is well known to increase blood volume drawing water deeper into muscle tissue. (so I have read) In fact the military uses it often, as they did during the golf wars to prevent dehydration.
The one downside with regard to Miracle-Mineral-Supplement is that it will help you retain water longer, so if you are consuming glycerin every time you consume water you might slightly hinder your detox pathway as it will take a little longer to leave your system. My opinion is that if you continue drinking water throughout the day, this is negligible. I have a theory that the consumption of glycerin with the MMS blended water might turn out to enhance the dose, so long as you consume non-glycerin water throughout the remainder of the day.
Another interesting point is that it is neither a fat nor a carbohydrate. Because the FDA did not have a category that fit with this substance, they chose to classify as a carb - which is wrong.
It does have a caloric value, about 27 calories per tsp which means it provides a source of energy as well.
I like to mix it with nice pure coconut oil to make a creamy sweet dip with homemade almond crackers. Nothing like a full-on anti-bacterial dessert!
It works well with fruit to make soft-serve gelato, mix with apples and cinnamon for apple pie, blend with unsweetened cocoa for a thick chocolate syrup.
It has some very interesting properties. The more you cook with it, the more you find it acts like no other substance. It actually 'warms' coconut oil all by itself to make it creamy at room temp, yet it keeps a fruit blend from freezing solid.
Why not take every chemical poison that is not growing out of the ground, hype it up like you do, even though it is not a food and in your mind as you have already done mad it a food. You can eat it for years and we will see if you live or die. OK.
It is not easy to see directly how Miracle-Mineral-Supplement could help diabetes, except that we don't know why it is that the body stops producing enough insulin. I believe that pathogens are at the root of more health problems than we give them credit for, probably aided by genetic factors, environmental pollutants, poor diet and lack of exercise. Miracle-Mineral-Supplement does seem to have a good effect on our pathogen load or on our body's ability to handle it. If pathogens are promoting the degeneration of our insulin-production mechanism, which is a possibility, then MMS could help reverse that.
I have only seen anecdotal evidence in a video about Jim Humble's work that a woman in Mexico who had diabetes found after taking MMS that she didn't need so much (or any?) insulin any more. That's not really convincing evidence, but if people with diabetes who take MMS could report in about their experience we would know more.
I had hoped that Miracle-Mineral-Supplement would cure my type2 diabetes when I started over 2 years ago, no luck. However what I did find was that it would dramatically reduce my blood Sugar shortly after taking it. My neuropathy in my feet greatly improved, it's not totally gone but it became a lot more bearable. Recently I developed deep cracks in my heels which I managed to heal in about a week by bathing them every night in a basin of warm water with 10 drops activated.
Hey JOE, and everybody else. ... ... It doesn’t make much sense if you think in ”Type 1” and ”Type 2” alone. Except if those are - other than ”science” knows/thinks - pathogen induced. BUT there are so many other things that are associated with diabetes, which are commonly treated like a ”Type 1” or ”Type 2”, just because its convenient. ... ... In my own case, as my diabetes was discovered, my doctor put me on insulin straight away, as my A1C was at 12.8% and my fasting Sugar was at 277 mg/dl (15.4 mmol/L). He had some test done for antibodies - just to be sure. Results came back: negative. No ant ... [This message is long. Retrieve the whole message]
I have read that the cause of type 2 diabetes is trans-fats in cell membranes. This causes the membranes to be too rigid to let the Sugar through, which causes the insulin resistance. If you replace the trans-fat with good omega 6 or 9 fats (now I dont know exactly which), you may reverse your type 2 diabetes. Probably the best to take is hemp seed oil.
Then your pancreas seems to be free from parasites. Please see also "Hulda Regehr Clark - The-Cure-for-all-Diseases-Electroherbalism", page 173 (197).
Maybe it is a poison like aflatoxin or lack of a non essential micronutrient like boron that fuels your diabetes.
ok, I KNOW that chlorine dioxide and chlorine are not the "same" thing. I am still unclear as to the difference, I'm on a learning curve here:) Nevertheless, here's more good info that supports the theory that Miracle-Mineral-Supplement jump-starts a natural process...
"CHLORINE kills bacteria in swimming pools-and also, it seems, in the blood. American biologists say that the gas is an important weapon in the armoury that white blood cells use to fend off invading microorganisms.
When bacteria enter the body, white blood cells called neutrophils use an array of toxic chemicals to kill them, including hydrogen peroxide, a powerful bleaching agent. But hydrogen peroxide can react with other molecules in the blood, and Jay Heinecke and his colleagues at the Washington University School of Medicine in St Louis realised that these reactions could form chlorine.
Looking for chlorine itself was not feasible, as the gas is so reactive that it would exist only fleetingly. But Heinecke's team devised a system to detect retrospectively whether it had been produced. They cultured neutrophils in the laboratory, then took red blood cells, filled them with an amino acid called tyrosine, and coated them with antibodies and other blood proteins to ensure that they would be attacked by the neutrophils.
The neutrophils soon destroyed and engulfed the tyrosine-filled red blood cells. The researchers then used a mass spectrometer to show that the fluid in which the neutrophils were held contained traces of 3-chlorotyrosine, a chemical marker left behind when chlorine attacks tyrosine (Journal of Clinical Investigation, vol 98, p 1283). "We haven't proven that chlorine kills bacteria in vivo yet," stresses Heinecke. But he is confident that will turn out to be the case.
Unfortunately, the toxic chemicals released by white blood cells can damage the body's own tissue. Heinecke thinks the production of chlorine by neutrophils could be involved in heart disease, cancer, arthritis and stroke."
~and, as far as that last cautionary paragraph is concerned, I'm sure that there are many factors which come into play there...such as the use of chlorinated water.
Hi all, I have been taking MMS for 3 months and have had no problems to speak of just a little queese and passing waterie D.
. I have lots of improvements in breathing, skin clearing, edema, urinary and bladder improvements, no MS spasms, many precancer spots are falling off, and so on. My questions are about our water supply and it's effect on the activities of MMS. I have no chemicals in my natural tap water. I can shower, bathe and drink pure water. How many of you have this advantage. No floride, no chlorine, or other chemicals on or in your body? Do you think it could make a difference. I also have not had to drink, shower, or breath anything but pure well water for all of my adult life. I have not had to be on municipal water. Do you think this has a lot to do with health and the use of MMS?
I took Miracle-Mineral-Supplement for 2 years no problems other than a loose stool but it did deplete me of natural probiotics which casued me horrible smelly gas from my rear end ! so I fixed this by alternating Miracle-Mineral-Supplement days by taking Milk Keifir. This Kefir you can get most anywhere even ebay for $4 is self growing gel like substance and free way to produce a yogurt from whole milk ( just google milk kefir or water kefir . This substance works out to be virtually free to make at home (take 2 mins prep leave for 24 hours in a luke warm place or room temp ) Kefir has 50 strains of bacteria and 50 strains of fungus that the gut and bowels love, both the fungus and bacteria then produce lots of natural vitamins and enzymes from the digestion of the foods you eat, keeping anarobic bacteria away too.
I would say from all evidence your pure water is a good idea as it flushes you out with the purest type of water . I think the best way if you do not have access to pure water with a high alkaline PH is to make distilled water. there are load of methods to produce it cheap at home using a modified kettle $20 of equip or better still a old used modified pressure cooker. goto youtube for tutorials. MMS is a chlorine so it would still be best to avoid mixing it with standard municipal chlorinated tap water as it is loaded with about 250 to 600 Parts per million contaminates.compared to pure water has 5 to 10 and a high Alkaline PH . other options to make pure ware are 5 stage (RO) Reverse osmosis water filer (must be RO and 5 stage or 3 satge at least . RO is cheap as it needs NO energy supply other than the water pressure from your water supply . However distilling water can be made cheap and free if you use wood burner to heat the pan . otherwise you need to run a machine that is like small kettle for a few hours and that can work out a little expensive . I found that 5 stage RO Reverse osmosis devices that hook up to the municipal water supply are outstandingly cheap and I also found that the filters last 5 to 10 times longer than they say they do. I got 6 years out of my set and still were producing only 15 parts per million contaminants .but for price of device and ease to make the distiller is outstanding and produces as good water but will not remove petroleum or plastic so the bought versions come with a carbon filter at the 1st stage to remove these contaminants, adding a small fee per 3 month for replacement filter. The Bought Distillers can go as cheap as £45 or $60 the RO 5 stage filters cost about $150 to $200 but you can pay for filters that magnetically separate water from polluted water for $2000 so if you have the money then they are great as they are portable to move from home to home and also ionize the water to make its PH perfect but I am not sure if its worth the money as I have never seen a double blind test done on one compared to RO or distilled water.
My 14YO son has autism. I've been treating him with a parasite cleanse system for 1.5 years (5 days on, 2 days off). He's made some remarkable improvements, but every time I try to wean him off the cleanse, the parasite symptoms flare up. He is nonverbal and fairly low-functioning, so I don't get any feedback from him as to how he is feeling. Last week, I started him on 1 drop of Miracle-Mineral-Supplement then upped the dose to 1 drop, 2x a day this week. After about 4 days at 2 drops/day, he vomited once and had diarrhea all day. I am assuming it is the Miracle-Mineral-Supplement . I decided to drop down to 1 drop/day again until he gets beyond this. He tends to have loose stools anyway, which I am guessing is related to this ongoing battle with the parasites. His gut tends to be very sensitive to anything I give him, so I have to go very carefully with anything new like the MMS. I am still giving him the other parasite cleanse (Systemic Formulas VRM 1-4). I would love to hear anyone's ideas or insight into this. I am working with a homeopath who has done extensive research into parasite cleanses, but she has not researched MMS. I'm looking to get my son beyond these parasites once and for all. My homeopath and her colleagues are autism experts and do consults with parents from around the world. They have found that the children with autism who are considered "tough nuts" tend to also be parasite kids. With their compromised immune systems, it is difficult to eradicate parasites.
Thank you for your encouragement! I truly appreciate it because even though I have read everything I can find on Miracle-Mineral-Supplement the past few weeks, it's still a bit scary to move forward with a nonverbal child. In my search of archives and such there doesn't seem to be any discussion of anyone using it with an autistic child. I'm doing it on myself and ramping it up much faster with no side effects so far.
I agree with Johnny Apple Bomb---You're on the right track and going about it in the right way.
I'd also recommend you look into Neurofeedback as an additional adjunct for your son. I have seen numerous cases of Autism respond profoundly to this intervention---virtually normalizing kids in some cases...nearly always helping. It's well worth a try. Here's a link to a video description of what Neurofeeback is: http://www.eeginfo.com/win_video.html.
If you feel you're interested, you can go to http://www.eegdirectory.com
to find a practitioner near you.
Also, in case you're not already familiar with this (though I imagine you are...you sound reasonably saavy and well researched), check out this web site: http://www.gfcfdiet.com.
It's one more thing that can make a profound difference in your son.
Thank you for your *feedback* on feedback (neuro that is ). I will look at that link. As for gf/cf diet, yes we do that with an emphasis on alkaline foods (so in addition to gf/cf, we are sugar-free, corn-free, etc.). We started him on the diet when he was 3 and first dx'd.
I have a four year old that I would like to start on Miracle-Mineral-Supplement treatment and need to know the actual protocol step by step. WHere can I obtain that? He is somewhat high functioning and we have already changed his diet to non Gleuten, non dairy, no soy. Now ready to start the Miracle-Mineral-Supplement . Can you or do you kknow anyone who could help me obtain this information?
Please, don't. This shit is bleach. All of you people are hurting your children, not helping them. Do some real research, away from all of these pro-miracle garbage sites. Or talk to an actual doctor. There is a reason that you are all advised to keep your identities hidden; if anyone knew who you were, they would f***ing take your children away. And they should. You are slowly killing them and destroying their insides. :(
I don't usually reply to #12345 screen numbers anymore, but I'm a grandparent of 2 fully recovered, formerly severely autistic grandsons.
Since we've spent several hundred thousand dollars and 10 years (and counting) discovering the methods to autistic recovery, we've also helped several dozen other families start the road to recovery for their autistic kids.
It's not expensive once you know what to do, but it's VERY expensive when you're in the "try everything and pray" mode, and your results will be necessarily limited, due MAINLY to the "professional" commmunity that takes your money, and guides you (mostly) in the wrong directions.
That said, a coupla things..... The "parasites" are the least of your problems and you really need to get rolling on recovering as much of your son as possible. The candida and leaky gut are ALSO just symptoms, and the longer he's non-verbal, the more likely he never will be verbal. Plus you have (as you've probably noticed) the problems of hormones kicking in and as his body develops, you have doorways closing to functions he'll never be able to recover.
You need to give more detail about your son...Was he autistic from birth, regressive after 18 months, is on gfcf/sf/cf diet, does he make eye contact and does have dental fillings and did YOU have dental problems that had been filled with Amalgam mercury before he born? Has he been vaccinated over the years, and what were they? (including the Hep-B at birth) Have you done any heavy metal chelation and does he have any problems with hearing or eyesight? (or can you tell?) Does he have violent tendencies, or can you control him pretty well?
I don't mean to get your hopes up for nothing, but I've seen some spectacular turn-arounds, and if you can get him talking, your lives will change dramatically. (it's generally not too hard to do this, btw)
Let me know if you'd like advice, but not if you're going to have me type it all out, just to ignore it because there's so many conflicting opinions coming at you.
I don't mind helping if I can, but it'll require discipline on your part and the willingness NOT TO TRY EVERYTHING AT ONCE. You can't make progress unless you follow a METHODICAL process of trial and error towards his problems.
His gut chemistry sounds fairly screwed up and the Miracle-Mineral-Supplement drops will help him later, if he can't tolerate it now. But we're talking about a recovery process of YEARS, not MONTHS or days, and if you start a reasonable program of recovery today, you'll probably see measurable IQ and verbal differences within a year.
Our kids are not "tough nuts" when we spend enough of our own time DIRECTLY OBSERVING THEM, and we become their own personal "autism experts" with a little simple and inexpensive guidance of what to try next.
(Just in case you're wondering, I have nothing to sell and have a real job in an unrelated field, not one that bleeds hurting parents dry when they're at their most vulnerable.)
Wow, what a beautiful and heartbreaking post..
My admiration and love to you and your family, Hellth... you have been through
both amazing and hellish times!
And thank you for allowing it to "let you become" who you are! You are truly
a wonderful inspiration!
As we say in Texas, "Aw shucks, mam." (kicking dirt)
You're really too nice :) My wife hits me every I volunteer to help some else with autistic kids, but when you've been through as much as we have with our grandkids and with other parents of autistic kids, it's hard just to watch them suffer when you know that they could be helped.
There's so much misinformation and outright fraud on the internet these days, it's (paradoxically) getting HARDER to find good info, as the internet grows!
Sorry about the anonymous user name. This was my very first post here, so I don't really know what I'm doing . On this reply I will let my user name show. To answer your questions: He regressed at about 2 years old, he is on the diet (as mentioned in my last reply), he makes eye contact (is very social), one composite dental filling, yes I had Amalgams before he was born, he was vaccinated with everything on the schedule through 15 months (including HepB at 10 days, not right at birth), 3 months of DMSA chelation and two DMSA challenges a couple years later, no apparent eye or ear problems (but not able to confirm this; he's most likely sound sensitive), no longer aggressive at all.
I would be interested in hearing what you have to say. We have done many things out there, seen 20 different practitioners (mostly alternative, some DAN! docs). Right now he is going through a treatment of sequential/integrative homeopathy that is clearing out all the insults to his body, including vaccines. This is the only treatment that he has responded to over the past 11+ years.
In your original post, you said Moses was "low functioning", and since most parents over-estimate their kid's ability when they're autistic, I assumed that he wasn't able to communicate his wishes and didn't respond to stimulus appropriately. (let alone, be sociable!)
So is Moses able to tell you when something hurts and point to the pain? And if you would, please describe what kinds of communication that YOU ARE able to do with him, because so much more is possible when autistic kids can give you feedback. Also, will he/can he swallow capsules, and if not, will he take eye-dropper supplements mixed with fruit juice?
From the small amount I do know about your situation, it sounds VERY HOPEFUL that you've "taken the bull by the horns" and tried the diets over the years. And I would suggest that his loose stools are telling you that you're missing something, probably with gluten in it, and you may not realize how TINY AMOUNTS of gluten can render all your efforts worthless, without you even realizing. For example, most HAND SOAPS have gluten ingredients and even 1 CRUMB of a bread product may nullify months of faithful dieting, to someone who's highly immune compromised.
I know it sounds like "pie in the sky" after so many years of doctors and watching him grow up with impairment, but if Moses was a NORMAL child at birth, then regressed at the usual time (after the MMR vaccines) then you have an EXCELLENT chance of recovering him to the point where he can live his own life. (unless there's something else I don't know about his disability)
You mentioned chelating with DMSA. Was that under the direction of a doctor? (Incidentally, just FYI, DAN doctors are simply regular doctors who go to 1 day convention, and are pronounced DAN after the day. Some of the WORST doctors go to the DAN convention, because they don't have enough patients to fill their normal schedule, so they go, hoping to get a whole new clientele. I haven't been reading up on it for the past few years, but their initial "DAN protocols" were nothing short of laughable)
DMSA is an excellent chelator, but it DOES NOT PASS the BBB (blood brain barrier).
Autism is a toxic metal disease. And the mercury is stored in the brain, where DMSA can't get at it. (lipid tissue has a 5X preferential uptake of toxic metals over other bodily tissues)
It sounds like you have the resources to see doctors and such, so you should find a doctor who'll prescribe DMPS (dimercapto propane sulphate) which is the "cadillac" of mercury BBB chelation agents. DO NOT ALLOW a doctor to do "challenges" and IV administration of chelators, because while faster, they are also MUCH more dangerous to Moses and are completely unnecessary. Speed is something the DOCTOR needs, in order to see more patients. With more patience and less speed, you can administer chelation orally and avoid the horrible side effects of improper redistribution of the body burden, and actually get RID of the stuff, once and for all.
If you don't have the money for doctors, you can also use Alpha Lipoic acid, a strong sulphur-based antioxidant that is perfectly OK for BBB chelation. The downside of ALA is that it tends to create yeast problems, and most unexpected reactions from chelating are YEAST/CANDIDA related. (this includes repetitive behaviors, stimming, uncontrollable outbursts, spitting, you name it) Just be sure to get the ALA from a store or online source that sells a lot of it, so that you can be sure it's fresh.
I should pause here, and tell you that I speak from PERSONAL experience, as well as with our experience with our grandkids and hundreds of others we have known. I was probably the MOST MERCURY TOXIC person you'll ever meet (that lived to tell about it) and I am INTIMATELY acquainted with all the problems of acute toxic metal chelation.
The CHELATION of Mose's brain burden of mercury, is the SINGLE MOST IMPORTANT THING YOU CAN DO. This will take AT LEAST a couple of YEARS, but will be well worth it. (based on my experience)
You don't need a lot of tests, or doctors, or anything else that costs a lot of $$$. All you need is a bottle of chelator, some critical antioxidant supplements and support vitamins, and the faith that will see you through the scary times of "what do I do now?"
If Moses was of normal intellect before his regression, it is very likely that he's much smarter than you think, and once he's talking, he'll probably tell you that he remembers all those years that you took care of him, but he couldn't put together the sounds in his head in order to talk. (this has happened time and again, with kids who were once diagnosed as "institutional" candidates)
Let me know if you plan to try the above suggestions. There's much more to it, of course, but I have to get to work and I need to know more about your situation as outlined above.
Thank you so much for your detailed reply. Your family is very fortunate to have you and your research/support. I will consider your recommendations. The group that we are now working with (http://www.homeopathyhouston.com), is having great success detoxing ASD kids with its approach. We haven't kept up on lab tests in the past few years ($$$ have run dry), but some parents who are veteran chelators and who are now with the Houston group, have reported that their children are detoxing mercury at a rate similar to or greater than when they were doing chemical chelation. One mom, in particular, worked with Buttar prior to coming to Houston. In 2002, we were doing ALA before, during and after our 3-months on DMSA (Captomer) and about one month after stopping DMSA, he had his first-ever grand-mal seizure. He had reacted so horribly to the DMSA (and perhaps ALA) that I always wondered if it hadn't stirred up some problems that caused the seizure. After that, we pretty much vowed to avoid chemical chelation.
At any rate, just to touch on a couple of your other points/questions. I refer to him as low-functioning because he appears to be so since he is non-verbal. His teacher places him with the high-functioning kids in her classroom. He communicates with a device that has pictures and is rapidly learning to use one with a keyboard. His communication is not perfect at this point, but is improving. He can't swallow capsules, but he drinks a supplement cocktail that I prepare for him. The thing about his loose stools is that his gut has been slowly improving over the past year (after going downhill during SCD). So right now, even though his BM's aren't perfect, they are a far cry from where they were a year ago. Some of the autism GI docs out there (like Krigsman) have said that it can take as long to heal a gut as it took to get to dysbiosis in the first place. My son has had dysbiosis on and off since he was a baby, so if it never truly healed in between problem periods, then it could take 10 years or more to fully heal according to Krigsman. I don't expect it to take that long, but I expect it to be slow and from what I am seeing now, he's making progress. The Miracle-Mineral-Supplement seemed to throw things off a bit.
Again, thank you for taking the time to offer some suggestions and ideas!
"One mom, in particular, worked with Buttar prior to coming to Houston. In 2002, we were doing ALA before, during and after our 3-months on DMSA (Captomer) and about one month after stopping DMSA, he had his first-ever grand-mal seizure."
Sorry to hear about your son's seizure, MM. We had some minor seizure episodes, but found out that by cutting out ALL TRANS-FATS, the seizures went away without antiseizure meds. (You know how TRYING these exclusionary diets can be, when trying to keep weight on ASD kids, so we found out that MCDONALDS had NO GLUTEN in their French Fries, which they loved, but then we started getting scary little seizure episodes until we realized it had something to do with MCDONALDS...lol .... shocker!)
Unfortunately, McDonalds fries now have gluten, although they have apparently removed the transfatty acids.
"He had reacted so horribly to the DMSA (and perhaps ALA) that I always wondered if it hadn't stirred up some problems that caused the seizure. After that, we pretty much vowed to avoid chemical chelation."
He couldn't tolerate even a drop of Miracle-Mineral-Supplement either, right? Do you have Moses on digestive enzymes? They cover a multitude of unintentional "sins" in the leaky gut diets. After about a month, the right enzymes will make your boy seem happier over all. I don't think I ever saw it fail. (when given enough time to work out)
"At any rate, just to touch on a couple of your other points/questions. I refer to him as low-functioning because he appears to be so since he is non-verbal. His teacher places him with the high-functioning kids in her classroom."
I forgot to mention this for Mose's verbal problem. HAVE YOU TRIED VINPOCETINE? If you haven't, find a good fresh source for this supplement (I think we got ours from Kirkman Labs... more expensive, but good quality) and give him 1-2 capsules every day. Watch for HEADACHES though, and if he gets them, back off for a week or two, then go again. This has turned on some ASD kids verbal ability LIKE A LIGHT SWITCH! Vinpocetine increases blood flow in the brain, and is a "natural" extract of the periwinkle plant. THIS IS WORTH A TRY!
"Again, thank you for taking the time to offer some suggestions and ideas!"
God bless you and Moses, and expect a miracle with him. Keep trying to chelate him, though, and get that darn mercury out of his brain. You don't have to win any races, just keep up the effort and don't get discouraged. It seemed to us, that JUST when we couldn't take another day of "no change", something new would suddenly happen, and we'd be on the next level of improvement all of a sudden. Don't give up, MM! :)
I almost in tears after reading your post regarding you kindness towards Autistic children.
Sadly my 4 and half years old boy is one of them. We have been trying so many different ways during the past one and half year. He is improving in many ways and he has started to speak many words. The most significant improvement was achieved by adding Vb series into his supplements. however, non of the methods are changing him enough to recover. He still have GUT problems, he still in many routines, he still has audio processing difficulty, etc
We have done many tests in the past. We had given him EDTA for chelation and that really helped Haohan. The last few runs did not help for some reasons. Therefore we concentrated on supplements at the moment.
He is the regressive from 18 month type of Autism. He is on GFCF diet. He does not have problems with hearing or eyesight. He is a very clam and gentle boy. We can control him very well.
The main problem for us is we still in try everything and pray mode at the moment. We urgently need a methodical process for my son. It would be very grateful if you could help us base on your experience.
Many thanks and best regards.
Yi & Hui
Hellth, if you still willing to help ASD parents please please please, get in touch with me. I have a 6 years old little girl on the spectrum. I truly believe in recovery but we really need some guidance. We live in a small city, difficult to find a good DAN or Naturopath Doc to help us. Kinda lost right now :( TIA
Hi, this is a response to #93880. Not sure if you have been helped. I am new to this forum. I have a 3 year old daughter who started a protocol through Generation Rescue...this helped some, but i will try something new pretty soon. That is Kerri Rivera's protocol. If you would like to hear people's testimonials and joing the forum and Facebook discussions for guidance: Go to CDAUTISMDOTORG ( i spelled the "dot" so it would let me post). Or go to GENERATIONRESCUEDOTORG. I have done lots of research and reading. Prior to having my daughter i was taking diet, health and chemistry classes. Kerri's Protocol sounds very convincing to me. Even Generation Rescues is good, the only thing is more supplements to take here to clear out pathogens and they are not cheap. They have a grant that some families can qualify for and they help with a good amount of supplements. I hope this helped some...God Bless and Good luck! Gladys
My name is Bob Frank and I would love to hear more on how you overcame autism with your grandchildren. I am the Dad of an 18 year old (verbal) son who is on the spectrum and diagnosed with PDD. Any help, suggestions, and honesty would be greatly appreciated. My gmail address is robertfrank77
Hi, I really like your response on this subject.I have a moderate Autistic girl. She is non verbal, but does say words when prompted and babbles a lot. She is currently taking ABA Sessions and goes to Special Ed pres-school. I have tried a protocol, not fully, because i found Kerri's protocol with Miracle-Mineral-Supplement or CD and i got very interested in it. Many things are very similar, the difference is the CD and some supplemnts With the first protocol form Generation Rescue (not sure if you are familiar with it). They do cleanses and use supplements, B-12 shots, Hyperberic Oxygen Chamber and most importantly the diet. But i will try this new protocol soon. I get very happy to hear that people like you recover their children or grandchildren! it's so rewarding to heard that. I would love to hear from you regarding your protocol. To me, the more i hear form parents that have succeded the better, that is the most powerful tool someone like me can have. I would be very greatful, when you have time, if you can email me or even talk on the phone if possible. My name is Gladys and my emial is gldys_69atyahoodotcom (I spelled the "at" character and the "dot" because it would not let me post my email. Thank you so much for giving your input. I hope i can reach you! Blessings!
Your post got me excited. I have a 11 and half year old nephew who has moderate autism. He is verbal, but doesn't share much of his pains. He loves to be in his own world. He was healthy child, but after vaccination, he had an ear infection, after which he severely retracted for almost 2 years didn't talk much. He is hyper active. We have been trying a lot of things, Homeopathy, Brain Balance, Camel milk, Methyl B12, bio-med supplements, he shows improvement with each of them initially for few days, but again moves back to the same stage. Any help will be highly appreciated.
To the grandparent with 2 autistic grandkids....would you be willing to point me in the right direction to help my newly diagnosed autistic son??? I know this was posted several years ago now but hoping for some help.
Congratulations on getting your grandsons free of autism!!! Kudos to you; it sounds like you've put in tons of hours of research to help recover them.
I have a 17yo daughter who has been diagnosed with Aspergers. She is very high functioning but has problems with social situations and has anxiety. I've tried homeopathy, muscle testing, enzymes, neurofeedback, and occupational therapy. Can you please give me some guidance? I'm considering Miracle-Mineral-Supplement .
Hello, In need of guidance for recovering my son. I like many on this site have loved ones who are trapped in there bodys. I am seeking help or guidance from your own experiences with autism. My son is four now and he has some verbal but he is pretty much non-verbal he was given the mmr shot after that he was totally different. He can't make a sentence but communication is trough a word or two. He's highly active can't concentrate on a task for more than a minute and we are lost. I would appreciate any guidance into what first step to take into recovering my son. I'm in California and it is hard to get a firm grasp on my sons situation . Thank you in advance
Autistic kids are deficient, many times in fatty acids, B vits, enzymes & minerals. These needs must be met and maintained for true healing to begin. All the cleansing and chelation will only further debilitate a deficient body.
I would suggest seeking out a molecular nutrition specialist, who can determine a proper nutrient balance for your boy. Get the bowel issue corrected, strengthen the body, then get him on Miracle-Mineral-Supplement and I would also suggest following EM's advice on biofeedback, it is excellent for brain wave balancing.
To remain on parasite cleansers for a year and a half is irresponsible on the part of those doctors that you a seeing. I would get a second opinion.
Thank you for your reply. Can you help me understand why it is irresponsible for my son to be on the parasite cleanse so long -- is it pulling nutrients from his body? How long is a reasonable time? I have read it can take up to 2 years to get to the bottom of a parasite problem -- especially when the immune system is compromised. The Defeat Autism Now! (DAN!) doctors say that the immune systems of children with autism are as messed up as those who have AIDS. This is one reason why I was attracted to Miracle-Mineral-Supplement , because Jim Humble keeps saying that it strengthens the immune system. The DAN! doctors have no concrete answers for repairing these kids' immune systems. At any rate, as I mentioned, every time we try to wean him off the herbs, his parasite behaviors flare up and we just can't live with that anymore (e.g. feces smearing/eating, aggressiveness, OCD, etc.). As for nutritional stuff, within a week of his diagnosis, I took him to a naturopath and started him on supplements, diet, etc. in support of nutritional deficiencies. He has a fantastic diet that is supplemented with EFA's and enzymes. His gut problems have come and gone through the years, but in the past 4-5 years have gotten worse in spite of the intervention and focus on gut. A couple years ago, he tested positive for b. hominis, a parasite that is linked to chronic diarrhea and is considered impossible to eradicate. His homeopath suspects we are still dealing with some sort of gut parasite. We are also working on gut biofilm to release any eggs that may be hiding there. Chlorine dioxide is said to break down biofilm. I appreciate your feedback and would love to hear more of your thoughts. Thanks!
Have you seen this post on the Parasites Forum ? It's from the curezone member North:
This is a really excellent site maintained by a woman who suffered with IBS caused by the parasites B. Hominis and D. fragilis for years, then was mostly cured when she took specific treatments that targeted these two parasites. She lists the treatments that worked (they are Rx, unfortunately, but nothing else worked), and she lists everything that DIDNT work, for comparison. The site doesn't sell anything - it is just unbiased info feedback from people who had these parasites.
"The Defeat Autism Now! (DAN!) doctors say that the immune systems of children with autism are as messed up as those who have AIDS."
Very true...and why it is essential to determine any deficencies and correct them! All food allergies must be determined and not by hocus pocus testing, like keinesiology. Though, I believe there is some validity to this type of testing, it is not always reliable.
Bottom line---no matter how many parasite concoctions your child takes, if the body is depleted and lacking the correct nutrients to function then the body will remain off balance and parasites will continue to thrive.
Personally, I think very small amounts of Miracle-Mineral-Supplement used everyday would be more beneficial, much cheaper and far safer than any herbal parasite cleanse. However, your child may be low or deficient in antioxidant reserves so be sure to provide an antioxidant rich vit/min supplement therapy taken away from the Miracle-Mineral-Supplement dose.
$$$ and issue...try this experiment:
Remove all treatments now taken and give a strong quality multi vit/min in am, Morningstar trace minerals on empty stomach and provide a diet that is free of wheat and gluten and give him 2 drops of MMS at bedtime. See how that goes for 2-weeks, if stomach problems continue try removing cow milk products too...
Have you looked into the Specific Carbohydrate Diet? I am doing it myself (less than perfectly), geared toward Crohn's and colitis, but it is supposed to help autistic kids, who all seem to have compromised gut and immune systems. No grains at all, baked good use almond flour instead, mostly non-starchy veggies, fruits, honey is OK if tolerated. Meats OK. Certain cheeses and homemade yogurt OK (I make goat milk yogurt.) Has to do with the molecular aize of certain carbohydrates and how long they take to break down. Worth a google if you haven't looked into it.
Thank you so much for your reply! Yes, we did SCD for 19 months. When we started this diet, I did so because my son was regressing behaviorally. His gut at that time was in pretty good shape. At first, his gut got even better, but after about 7 months, he developed reflux (which began as a cough that his doctor at the time called a "stim" and provided no help for us at all). After a few months of this getting worse and him starting to vomit on a daily basis, I figured out it was reflux! In addition to the reflux, his gut conditions went downhill and continued to get worse in spite of the diet. He lost weight and couldn't eat anything! It was then that I found our current homeopath who has helped him in so many ways. Currently, he is on an alkaline diet, which has helped improve his gut, but we still struggle with loose stools. I don't want to go back to SCD because I believe it caused some imbalances in his gut that contributed to the reflux and dysbiosis. For one thing, he ended up with way too much animal protein on SCD -- this is not only acid-forming, but causes too much ammonia in the system. I'm sure this was my fault, giving him so much protein, but the diet was so limited and he was so hungry. I came to believe that it almost takes a PhD to do SCD with everything balanced perfectly (and have a child who will eat every food that is needed to balance it).
High quality (grass-fed, organic, free-range) protein is never a problem unless not properly balanced with adequate natural fat and/or green/fibrous vegetable matter. Grass fed meat is not overly acid forming, at all, and is inherently anti-inflamatory (commercial feedlot meat is the problem...even if the grains/corn are organic). Adequate water intake should be sufficient to address the ammonia issue. Proper, thorough chewing and the use of digestive enzymes may be needed (and critically important) to improve digestion and assimilation, as pancreatic insufficiency is also commonly endemic to Autistic spectrum conditions.
L-Arginine may also be used supplementally to assist in ammonia detoxification, if additionally needed, for some reason. You may also want to google "L-Carnosine" or "Carnosine" as an amino acid with great potential in supporting Autistic issues.
There is no one etiology to Autism, though many contributing factors. It takes multiple interventions, normally, to properly address the issue. What is certain is that Autism is a man-made disorder and a uniquely modern phenomenon. It is also interesting to note that no cases thus far have been diagnosed in any Amish community...nor did it exist in any primitive society. Food for thought.
Contributing issues are multifold, including (but not limited to) thimerusol in vaccines (and mercury, in general), food sensitivities (particularly gluten and casein...possibly others), EMF pollution (areas with higher than normal EMF pollution are known to have higher than normal autism rates), prenatal nutritional deficiencies (lending to greater inherent vulnerability), severe dysbiosis and digestive imbalances, severe neurological over-arousal (which may be tremendously responsive to Neurofeedback training) and possibly others. It's a condition for which no one thing is likely to fully correct its symptoms. Steps must be taken to address nearly all of these. M.D.'s are, in general, ill-equipped to address many of these issues and are not remotely qualified to offer nutritional counseling.
Where diet and nutrition is concerned, your son essentially has zero room for error. In general, where there is any severe health issue physically or emotionally my rule of thumb is to adopt a diet as anciently primitive in it's make-up as possible to address it. This means nothing grain or dairy-based (some butter or very heavy cream MAY be OK), no vegetable oils (though olive oil is probably OK), no soy, no processed foods of any kind, only water to drink and never, ever, any sugar. Food should always look like food and be perishable, in nature. Grass-fed (only) meat, organs, wild caught cold-water low mercury fish, eggs (duck eggs can be substituted if chicken eggs are a problem, which they commonly are), fresh colorful vegetables and greens, salads...etc. are all good and important foods. --These are closest to meeting the needs of our universal genetic, evolutionary, physiological design. Added EPA/DHA and cod liver oil (A and D) supplementation is also additionally helpful (as deficiencies are so likely). Green drinks may also be added for their additional antioxidant and alkalinizing benefits.
In the earliest stages of treatment being more plant based may lend itself to better detoxification, since it requires less digestive energy and is so alkalinizing. In my highly experienced opinion, it is a mistake, however, to adopt "plant-based only" diets long term as they are poorly equipped to support neurological function, are prone to generating numerous nutritional deficiencies and digestive issues (such as further suppressing pancreatic function and hydrochloric acid production which, in turn, leads to poor protein and mineral digestion/assimilation). It is important to remember that "cleansing" is NOT the same as "re-building". Extremely high quality animal source foods are far-and -away best suited to re-building and supporting healthy physical and neurological function, as long as digestion is properly supported where needed.
Great post. I forgot to mention in my other response that while I'm leaning more toward a raw diet right now, I do eat a little high quality meat, though it is not always from a perfectly clean source (i.e. I do still eat at restaurants and I'm quite sure they don't have my health in mind). A kid can't do this, but I eat it when I feel I need it, which is typically about twice a week these days. I don't eat meats or fish raw, since I know I'm still dealing with a parasite problem.
Actually, raw meat and fish can be tremendously beneficial, and are far easier to digest than cooked meat. Raw meat contains naturally rich enzymes and nutrients, as well as hydrophilic colloids that can further facilitate its digestion, absorption and utilization. These are generally destroyed by cooking. Heat denatured protein is naturally harder to digest. I always eat my red meat cooked rare, and occasionally some raw. The USDA states that all one needs to do is make sure it has been frozen solid for two weeks prior to consumption. This ensures elimination of any parasite issues. Properly marinating these foods prior to consumption can also help. Also, supplementary hydrochloric acid is also an excellent defense against food-born parasites (that's what our ancestors relied upon as a first defense). I always bring some HCl caps with me to sushi restaurants. The way I see it, the tremendous benefits of raw animal foods greatly outweighs the risks---especially when reasonable precautions are taken. Raw egg yolks (but not the whites) can also be greatly healthful.
Be careful of over-eating brassica family vegetables raw (broccoli, cauliflower, cabbage, brussels sprouts), as these contain goitrogens which can suppress thyroid function over time.
Animals have teeth, claws, horns/antlers and/or the ability to run away as defenses against predation. Plants have no such advantages and thus must depend upon the production of anti-nutrients (phytates, endocrine disruptors such as trypsin inhibitors, and/or goitrogens, toxic alkaloids, oxalates...etc, etc) in order to deter animals and insects that would otherwise devour them. Some poison outright and others interfere with digetive capacity or endocrine function to reduce the long term capacity of animals/insects to thrive and/or reproduce. Modern agricultural practices have served to breed some of these substances out of modern produce to some degree, but not at all entirely. They can be a real concern. It's OK to eat those salads and greens (easy on the raw spinach, though--heavy on the oxalic acid)....but lightly steaming most vegetables actually enhances nutrient availability in many and can make them more digestible by virtue of helping to break down the cellulose and neutralize many of the anti-nutrients that bind healthy minerals and other substances. We are not herbivores and lack 4 stomachs to naturally ferment our veggies during digestion to accomplish the same thing. Adding a little melted butter or olive oil helps further facilitate absorption of minerals and fat-soluble nutrients (such as carotenoids) from these vegetables. Makes them tastier, too. :)
Grains and legumes are more resistant to these methods and are better avoided. Soy contains the highest levels of phytic acid and trypsin inhibitors (which can inhibit and eventually destroy your ability to digest and absorb protein over time, and cause pancreatic disorders) of any grain or legume and should always be avoided unless fermented. Fermentation helps neutralize the phytic acid and trypsin inhibiting nature of soy, but not the goitrogens, so I would even keep things like miso, natto and tempeh to a minimum. A little once in a while doesn't hurt, though (unless you are sensitive to soy...which an estimated 40% of the population is). I, personally, avoid it....other than the occasional cup of miso (with the tofu picked out) at Japanese restaurants.
very interesting, thank you. I am not at a point where I can "mentally" stomach the raw meat thing, but I won't rule it out. It's funny, I am already intuitively doing the things you mentioned, no raw crucif. veggies (gas), and I do steamed vegetables with butter or coconut oil added. I also use plenty of fats with my salads - avocado, olive oil, etc. Don't do soy, rarely any beans, but soaked and sprouted if so. I knew about fermenting - I used to ferment my own veggies, but still couldn't handle cabbage like that. I've kind of just figured out over time what works and what doesn't. I made a very simple veg. soup the other night with nothing in it that should have bloated me, and yet it did, and the only thing I can figure is that despite supplemental enzymes, it wouldn't digest because it was just too dead from cooking, everything was pretty soft.
There are elements to that diet that seem acid-forming, and I initially was eating way too much meat for the same reasons. I'm sure it's really hard to keep a kid on that diet. I read about one autistic child who did reasonably well on SCD, but made more improvement with the Body Ecology Diet, which does allow some grains. If there is anything to the blood type diet, I'm a type A and should be predominantly vegetarian, and that is what I feel best on. I am finding more and more that a mostly raw diet suits me pretty well, despite the temperate climate and cold winters here. I have never been able to stick to any one diet long term, so it remains to be seen how this will go. A find I can tolerate nuts well enough if they are raw and preferably soaked, but the cooked nuts - like the almond flour products just feel like cement in my gut, I have to be really careful with those. It's easy to overdo the proteins and dairy on that diet when you don't have that extended energy given by complex carbs. I've been on and off it several times, and I"m finding that if I modify it by gearing toward mostly veg. and raw, supplement with lots of fish oil, minerals from fulvic acid (and I do eat sea veggies contrary to their recommendations), I feel more balanced, and it seems to help the bloating and gas issues, though I know I still have resident yeast and parasites at the root of that problem. More than likely I'm just feeding them less by avoiding grains, and so it's keeping the symptoms down. One thing to note - my husband does therapeutic bodywork, and he has been able to help a number of people with reflux issues - sometimes it's just a malpositioned or "stuck" organ or valve. He does a technique called visceral manipulation to work with that kind of thing.
If you feel gas and bloating after eating meat then your problem isn't your blood type, but rather, your digestion. The solution is NOT adopting a vegetarian diet (for which no human is genetically adapted) but it is fixing the poor digestion. In all likelihood you are hydrochloric acid deficient and may also have poor pancreatic exocrine output (which may also relate to the poor HCL production). Low thyroid issues, stress, high carbohydrate/low protein diets and zinc deficiencies (brought on by either low protein diets or diets rich in phytic acid-containing legumes and grains) are all potential contributors to poor protein digestion. Adopting vegetarian or (god forbid) vegan diets only serve to worsen this issue--though may temporarily "feel better". Long term you will develop protein/amino acid insufficiencies that can lead to innumerable mental/emotional and physical problems, as well as extensive mineral deficiencies and endocrine imbalances. I see this all the time in my pracice and it is an extremely difficult set of problems to fix.
I am a "Type A" blood type on what amounts to a "Type O" diet and have superior health. The blood-type diet theory is full of holes and hype and constitutes rather poor Science (nearly all in vitro-based science--NOT in vivo). Whatever partial truths may be contained within it overlook fundamental human physiology and anthropological history.
hmmm very interesting, I'll have to show this to my husband, he's a big believer in the blood type diet. The in vitro vs. in vivo issue is something I also wondered about. I don't intend to give up meat, though I'm not ready to go raw with it. I do think getting the grain products out of my diet has made a difference, though. Actually, the gas and bloating I mentioned is not after eating meat, it's when I combine a bunch of different foods, usually, overeat, overdo it with fruit, or eat complex carbohydrates (grains, potatoes, basically anything starchy). Eating meat every day feels too often and just slows down my system, everything takes longer to move through, and I start to get constipated. My most digestable meal, usually, is some chicken or fish that's not overcooked, and lo-carb veggies with butter or coconut oil, but I don't feel the need for meat more than a couple times a week, usually. My blood Sugar is much more stable on this diet than it has ever been, too, and I'm finding a lot the time when I think I'm hungry, I'm really just not used to the feeling of not being "stuffed" after a meal.
On that SCD diet, I was initially not convinced that honey and the fruit sugars would not make my problem worse, but oddly enough, if I am really rigid about avoiding the other sugars and grains, the fruit and honey doesn't seem to be too much of a problem, though I have to keep it to a minimum as the occasional treat (and I do think that's the long present yeast situation).
The blood-type thing is fairly seductive, since it uses a laboratory test to make a determination about how one should be eating. From a simple logical standpoint, however, this premise is absurd. Our ancestors never would have done anything like this...and there is ample evidence that ALL blood types have been around fom mostly the get-go (which of course blows this whole theory out of the water). Consider that 1/2 of everyne out there is type "O"...which is supposedly the "hunter-gatherer" blood type. In this vein, at least half of everyone is going to be eating quite well. That makes D'Adamo look pretty good. He tells everyone else to remove processed foods from the diet, which is going to help everybody. Some folks are told to be vegetarians....which may feel better short term, as this can be cleansing if lots more vegetables are being consumed...etc. But to tell type A's to do this long term, when a majority of those living in the Baltic area of Northern Europe, for instance, has this blood type (close to the Arctic Circle and short growing seasons) is outright silly and baseless from an evolutionary and physiological standpoint.
Sounds like you're doing most of the right things. No worries about the raw meat-thing. You might try some carpaccio sometime as a way of testing the waters...I think you'd be surprised at how doable that is. Sally Fallon in Nourishing Traditions also has some good raw meat and fish recipe's for those interested in taking that plunge. No hurry, though.
Meat shouldn't constipate you unless you have some digestive issues. Biliary stasis can be a major contributing factor to constipation, as can HCl insufficiency. Ideas to consider.
Mostly, kudos to a healthy diet. I forgot to mention the coconut oil-thing....but you beat me to the punch!
Somone who is really excellent with health questions is Andreas Moritz . You can go to his forum and read through the archives (he no longer answers questions on curezone but there is a wealth of information you can look through).
For mercury in the body he recommends 1-2 baths in pascalite clay.
My sister has a non-profit organization to help children with cranial work. She has been working with a Dr. in Dallas - Dr. Speece - who practices cranial osteopathy, that has literally brought children out of autism on his table. His treatment has to do with "stuck" cranial plates. What I've been told is that the cranial plates have to move with the interstitial fluid (called spinal fluid when in the spine) that moves through the spine into the dura-nater (the spongy covering of the brain, under the plates). The fluid passes through the dura-mater (think that's the spelling) to feed the brain. If any of the cranial plates are 'stuck' - not moving - then that part of the brain does not get fed. There are children that after just a few treatments are now in regular classrooms in school - the treatment is amazing. To my understanding, there are many different reasons for autism, but this is a treatment that does not get much attention, that if there is a 'stuck' plate, makes all the difference in the world.
We have had great success with using Miracle-Mineral-Supplement for my teenage son. We started with an ATEC score of above 100 which came down to 3 in less than a year. Autism/ASD recovery is possible at any age. It is never too late.
it's obviously been 6 years and your'e unlikely to get this reply but I still feel compelled to say my peace.
First, no one is an autism expert. It just doesn't happen. It is such a varied disorder that anyone claiming to be an expert is deluded or dangerous. Second, your child has loose stools because you're giving him treatments that he likely doesn't need 5 days a week. What did you expect? God I hope someone took your kid away from you already. My qualifications you ask? I work with kids and adults with special needs trying to unf*** up what damage their parents did
A total of 140 children have so far been recovered (ATEC score of 10 or below,) using the CD Autism protocol! CD stands for Chlorine Dioxide, which is an inexpensive, broad spectrum, gentle, anti-pathogenic.
Hi, sorry to hear that you are having a hard time even though you see results. I have a moderate autistic girl and i will be trying Miracle-Mineral-Supplement or CD, Kerri's protocol.Not sure if you are following her protocol. Have you seen parasites come out? i think this is a good amount of time to treat parasites as i have read in many places. Are you trying to replenish his system with pro-biotics, some amino acids, digestive enzymes, B vitamins, specially B-12, B-6 and Folate! Folate may not be mentioned, but its very important for autistic kids that have methylation problems in that pathway. I have it, i came back with a gene mutation on the methylation pathway and i am currently taking methyfolate..some kids or are born with these defects. The Miracle-Mineral-Supplement assists the body to kill pathogens, but replenishing with good nutrition and some supplements is a must to assist the body in repairing the immune and digetive sytems and possibly methylation pathways. I plan to give my daughter diluted fresh juices when she is done with protocol and still take some supplements to help her body come to balance as much as possible, right after the "Kiling".... He also maybe reacting to some food additives or some other ingredients in food. Have you tried the Hyperberic Oxygen Chamber? (not sure if i spelled it right). I will also try energy medicine, its very scientific..acupunture or other energy medicine practices. Good luck and don't give up! Blessings :)
You are a f***ing monster. Do you not understand that you are giving your child bleach??? Of course he has diarrhea and vomiting; you're poisoning him. I hope someone takes him from you before you kill him.
You should be reported for abuse. You're killing your child. You are destroying his intestinal lining and preventing him from being able to properly absorb nutrients. Please seek real medical help for your son, and mental help for yourself.
I think CD is a game changer for ASD recovery and takes
care of so many co-morbid isseus. Even older kids/adults recover. CD costs very little so anyone can afford it.
It has worked for Lyme recovery too.
There are more than 93 cases of recovery which were in the presentation at Autism One 2013 in Chicago and a much larger number of people who have made very dramatic and rapid progress.
Hi, I have never used Miracle-Mineral-Supplement before and I am actually going to be using it for urethritis and epidimitis due to an infection in my body. Can someone give me the best site to buy it from? I am not making my own. Also, is activating it with citric acid necessary? Or can i just take the mms by itself?
Hi. I am new to this forum. Do you purchase Miracle-Mineral-Supplement or make it yourself? If purchase, please give me a link. If I need to make myself, can you provide the recipe? Thank you in advance
You can go either way. If you're planning on experimenting with Miracle-Mineral-Supplement long term then I'd recommend making it yourself. However, if you're thinking of trying it out then I'd recommend buying the ready-mixed solutions.
MMS is typically made by mixing a 28% Sodium Chlorite solution along with a citric acid solution. You can buy the raw ingredients: Sodium Chlorite powder & acid, to make it yourself, but.. the only reputable company I know of personally, only sells bulk(1lb and up). Which would make a substantial amount of Miracle-Mineral-Supplement . However, if you're planning on trying out MMS, then you can pick-up a ready mixed kits online from ie. eBay under the name: Sodium Chlorite OR Master Mineral Solution.
I've been getting the WORST IBS gut pain there is.
3 weeks water fast
6 months mms enemas
Tried every diets known to man
SCD, gaps, Paleo, Raw paleo, hypoallergenic formulas (protein,glucose,coconut oil)
810, fruitarian and now I am only fruitarian, NOTHING WORKS, NOTHING.
I'll spare you the entire novel on all the neurological problems, stiffness and stuff and just focus on the gut pain atm because its like living 24/8 with razor blade in your gut where if i try to massage it just feel like scrubbing my intestines with blades.
I have the worst gut pain and im losing weight every day, I take tons of anti parasites stuff, cayenne by the teaspoon, 30-40drops of oregano oil a day, turmeric, fresh aloe vera, ginger.
NOTHING absolutely NOTHING will get rid of this pain, even avoiding food and fasting wont do a thing. It wears off at times and comes back where i am super sick and the only remedy is to curse god and be in bed and hope stars eventually align and the pain wont come back when i eat this time.
I dunno what to do anymore, everyone gives me their useless advice of trying what i tried a thousand times. At this point i can only hope that my body finally say "screw this and finally surrender"
At this point i cant help but know it has to be parasite related but ive tried so many anti parasites stuff and NOTHING works.
Heal ive even tried to eat nothing but Sugar and coconut oil and that didnt work either.
This has been recurring for months, it will eventually go away like magic and smash me back with a vengeance, reminding me that w/e i did was totally useless and this pain will never go away and be dormant inside me.
I can feel fine for a few days or weeks but this SPECIFIC pain will come back and no supplement, poison, magic cure can do anything to even touch the pain except when my body choose it has stop trying to kill me which can be anywhere from 1 day or weeks.
You need to start writing down everything you eat and do and the physical state you are in at the same time. Pain..No pain Foggy
Make sure you include any medication or supplements. If it crosses your lips write it down.
I learned this from the elimination diet. It sounds to me like you are desperately allergic to something you are consuming. the only way to figure it out is to keep track of everything.
When the pain comes back look at your journal to see if you ate or drank the same thing right before the pain. Can happen up to 3 days after consumption.
Using this technique I found several things that
cause me serious problems.
Just a few of mine...tomatoes, potatoes, peppers, all cause severe inflammation and bloating. I never feel it until the next day. All these are members of the nightshade family and contain toxins not meant for human consumption. Some people do fine but if you are of northern European ancestry you shouldn't eat them.
Beer or other fermented grain food raise my blood pressure 50 to 100 points. Includes sauerkraut.
MSG gives me a huge headache. Taurine is the antidote.
Keep eliminating things until you find the one(s) that causes the problem. It takes 2-3 weeks for the toxins to leave the body. keep in mind it may not be the food but an additive.
I can't explain the complete elimination diet here so I suggest you buy a copy for your reference. It explains how to confirm what food is the problem. I feel this book saved my life.
I had several strokes and heart attacks before I got wise and used the elimination diet.
You may have parasites but you have to identify and stop eating the foods that are causing the inflammation before you can get ride of the parasites.. Been there...done that You said you did Sugar and coconut oil...did you drink beer or wine?
Use logic. Don't depend on people telling you what to do.
You may want to see an allergist and get tested for the foods but this isn't 100%. The skin may not react to something that causes the bowel distress. The only real detection method is the elimination diet.
I wish you luck. No one would help me. I was just mean and stubborn enough to figure it out for myself.
"In any case, the recent war on Tapeworms has been justified by research linking them to colic, particularly the type caused by intussusception. This condition occurs when a section of the bowel telescopes into an adjacent portion, causing blockage, inflammation, and abdominal pain. Other studies have found that Tapeworms are capable of secreting substances that interfere with the nerve impulses controlling peristalsis, the wavelike intestinal contractions that push food through the digestive system. As research continues, the message to the horse owner is clear: your horse's chances of staying healthy are better if tapeworms are eliminated"
I really do feel like i probably have the biggest Tapeworm ever in my gut as all my symptoms mimic Tapeworms yet after all the mms enemas, raw garlic, cayenne pepper, oregano oil at 40 drops a day, why am i not seeing any shred of tapeworms? When i was doing daily Miracle-Mineral-Supplement enemas I've seen enough ropeworm to fill many jars though, I also have seen anyone getting a Tapeworm out through Miracle-Mineral-Supplement enemas.
Your post remind me about what happen to me when i go to juice fasting, i started to get gut pains more after one week,and it just get worse day by day, the i realized by reading about copper toxity that the diet itself just juices was making copper toxity worse and i stopped the fasting , had to of course do it slow but after few days when i was back to eating meat and taking zink supplements the pain started to go away. I dont know could this be also your issue, but take it as one theory and maybe test by taking good zink supplement .
I hope there will be a solution for you, pains in gut are so horrible .
Hi, I bought mms about five years ago but never used it. I am ready to use it now. Does it go bad? Is it still active? And how about the citric acid that came with it? Just wondering if these products have an expiration date?
To my knowledge, citric acid does not expire so long as it's stored and remains in powder form.
As for Miracle-Mineral-Supplement , if the mixture is prepared in liquid form, then I've read that it will expire in time. Though I've had bottles myself for over three years that appear to be okay.
That said, on way to store Miracle-Mineral-Supplement long term, is to store place in an airtight container and in a cool dry place. Whereas some people say, you should freeze it. Though I can't confirm whether this is necessary or not, as chemical suppliers appear to store it in their own warehouses for very long periods of time(several years) also.
Lost feeling in hands and my Mms experience: Aug 10 2015
After driving across the the country from Co to NH,2 days later noticed a tingling sensation in my pinky and ring finger down the side of my hand. I have now been traveling south america with this problem and can no longer sleep on my belly with my arms over my head. I needed to constantly edit my position in my arm to get the feeling back. This problem is very unconfortable and consistant. My family has doctors who I have asked and they saw it's mechanical related like a pinched nerve or something. June 1st 2016 I started taking Mms for a different issue of having a dull tooth Paine. After 24 hrs I was on the bed reading and noticed that the position I was in I had not been able to do for the last 9 months without severe discomfront. I relized that all symptoms of my issue had vanished. Now I'm in the position where I can not take 3-6 drops Mms per day
with out the symptoms coming back.its truly amazing that Mms gets ride of this horrible feeling! My only concern is I don't want to rely on Mms and live a life chemicals free. It is consistant that the problem comes back with out mms. This is the most crazy health issue i have other experienced.What is Goin on with me? Any thoughts?
Based on what you've written is sound as though you're symptoms may be linked to inflammation.
That said, you may be able to achieve similar results that with the Miracle-Mineral-Supplement through dieting. Though the possibly remains that it may more intervention may be required also. ie, If you cannot find relief through strict dieting such as with the classic Kidney Infection Diet. Then it may be required to supplement this with the addition of Colloidal Silver regiment.
First post here, though I've been lurking a while reading the posts here. I am 35 year old, diagnosed with copd. Last time I checked spirometry at the doctor, the exhale volume/ time capacity was at 76%, 97% oxygen saturation in the blood.
How did this happen? I smoked. But not a heavy smoker, about 8-12 every day. Started at 18, quit at 29, started at 31 and quit at 33 when my doctor said that I had starting signs of copd. Went cold turkey (second time) and not smoked since.
At the same time I believe that, even though smoking most likely contributed to this situation, I lived in a basement for nearly three years.
This basement was not built to protect the rentees from the soil outside the wall, there was a opening in the kitchen floor for water (been a laundry basement probably ) and not a lot of air circulation. At the same time, the entry door was down a stair from very close to a road.
I was Ok when I moved there. After one year I had my first symptoms of the place, though did not know it at the time. Air hunger and a uneven heartbeat. Lasted only for a few days and the doc said I was fine.
The next year I didn't notice anything except slow regeneration after exercise. Then one day I did a hard exercise (bicycling as fast as I could, 35 miles). Had to stop, was shaky for weeks, rapid heart rate at no exertion nervous etc. After that, the whole 6 months, I was out of energy, gained weight, periods of nosebleed, arguing with the doctor. Then after 6 months I had a change in my breath and since then I don't feel I have enough oxygen.
I eventually got pushed out by the apartment, feeling and tasting from my lungs what I imagine is on the outside of the wall. The toilet septic tank among other things.
That is almost two years ago. It took me another scam of a rental and a scam of the apartment I bought, to start look in the right places to find out what is going on.
So I'm here. Reading about detox, emphysema, h202, mms, dmso, Co enzyme 10, etc. But I haven't seen anything particular about what is the problem if you get sick in the basement.
Been there, done that, smoking for years and quitting several times that damaged my lungs.
Following 30 years of asthma, weak lungs, breathing problems, expensive inhalers, spent $Thousands on doctors. Doctors only know how to treat symptoms, they don't attempt to cure.
The bottom line, all of my suffering ended with inhaling Colloidal Silver via a nebulizer. I love the Uniclife Portable nebulizer. You inhale CS for 15 minutes 2x a day until symptoms go away, then repeat as required when symptoms re-appear.
This kills all fungus, bacteria & virus that cause lung problems, it is a MIRACLE for people suffering with lung problems.
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Can you go into more detail?
* What kind of lung problem has Serrapeptase helped?
* What dosage do you take per day ? Do you take the high potency cap (120,000 units)
* How much has it helped ?
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Arthritis (both osteo- and rheumatoid arthritis)
Back and neck problems caused by inflammation
Breast engorgement caused by inflammation
Carpal tunnel syndrome
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Cystitis joints or muscles
Ear, nose and throat problems
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Fibrocystic breast disease
Headaches and migraines caused by inflammation
Inflammatory bowel diseases (ulcerative colitis, Crohn's, IBS)
Multiple sclerosis (MS)
* Has been found to dissolve arterial plaque quickly, safely, and efficiently plus it is very economic.
* Trauma related issues, such as sports injuries, post operative and traumatic swelling, and post operative scars and lesions.
* In addition to protecting against all of the above conditions, serrapeptase has also been shown to provide significant benefits as a safeguard against heart disease. http://www.wellnesswatchersmd.com/feature_articles/serrapeptase.php
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