So I'm more or less trying, a little here and a little there, looking for what can help the winter insomnias I've been getting for a good decade or so since getting diabetes type 1.
I'm still learning what works and what doesn't, and I haven't gone after enzyme supplements, due to the cost-level of the stuff...
I have only two of fourteen Amalgams left to switch out, after an appointment last week on wednesday (Now six days after) which replaced two molars of the stuff at my bio-dentist (with full equipment and charcoal+liquor shot pre-dentist).
I tried taking some of my Lithium Orotate last night, and I have had fogg-ish effects all day today-
* light headache after a low bloodsugar at midday
* difficulty multitasking or staying on-track on tasks, or performing tasks at speed
* increased tendency towards irritable thinking about others
* tinninitus-like sensitivity to noise at levels that are otherwise normal DB
I'm basically looking for feedback and stuff. Anyone had similar effects, found they needed a mineral balancing with lithium orotate etc..?
Of note from my hubby, he's noticed I had a similar headfog issue when I was missing my eltroxin (levothyroxin) for a few days in a row, and I'm going to look up as best I can how low thyroid hormone contributes to brain fog.
Yes, it was well worth it! A lot of the negativity and the leaddenness lifted. There is no change in the diabetes symptoms, the brainfog is still there, and the insomnia comes and goes, but I am much free-er to chase the heavy metals out and parasite cleanse.
This year has definately been a shift in the patterns, been using essential oils and herbs, and much of the depression has been lifting. I use nutritional therapy here and there.
Thank you, I do feel indeed that things are becoming more balanced. My prayer life has been developing a huge amount, not just the health, and it's been the best encouragement to continue on~
Little background on myself. I've had a few mineral level tests done, two hair analyses, a year apart, and most recently a RBC analysis. I suspected that I had a copper deficiency, which was confirmed by my first hair analysis in 2015 (it showed that I had a severe copper deficiency). The second hair analysis a year later showed the same thing. Low copper was also shown on the RBC test. The second hair analysis and the RBC test also showed low manganese.
I'm afraid to start supplementing copper again out of fear of lowering manganese even further and vice versa with the manganese lowering copper.
***What would be the best protocol to supplement both manganese and copper (in addition to a diet relatively high in both minerals) so that I don't throw the balance out of whack even further?
Some symptoms that I've experienced:
*Adrenal fatigue (mostly solved through diet and Vitamin B complex)
*Suspected candida and/or intestinal dysbiosis *Seborrheic dermatitis on head, face, penis and scrotum
For some reason, I often notice a greatly-increased appetite shortly after starting a regular magnesium supplementation schedule. A few weeks ago, I added magnesium back into my supplement routine - and I've found that it has absolutely wrecked my somewhat-disciplined diet. With magnesium, I seem to often get the feeling of lessened "satiety": before, a reasonably-healthy meal would be enough to satisfy me for hours - whereas with magnesium, the same meals result in hungry feelings relatively-quickly after eating those meals. Without magnesium, I generally have not had much overwhelming urge to snack - but after starting magnesium, I often succumb to powerful urges to snack. I have found myself being irresistibly-drawn to foods that I otherwise do a fairly-good job of avoiding. Let's just say that the employees of Taco Bell, Steak-N-Shake, and Burger King have seen way more of me over these past couple of weeks than they should have!
Does anyone know why magnesium affects me this way - and what I can do to eliminate this undesirable effect? Does magnesium affect anyone else this way?
Just when I want to say that it may have something to do with the form of magnesium I'm currently taking (magnesium citrate) - I remember that magnesium glycinate had the same effect. So it seems to be the magnesium itself affecting me this way - not the compound.
Oh, and Vitamin B1 (thiamine) has this same effect with me. I tried taking extra vitamin B1 a few months ago - and had to stop because of constant feelings of hunger, which caused me to sometimes become a ravenous pig.
Magnesium, I have read, is a mineral that the body does not store so we need to keep up the levels from food or supplements. Mg also helps the intestinal contents keep moving along and helps with constipation problems. A craving for fats and oils may indicate your body is not able to adsorb them and possibly when the contents of the small intestine are moving along too rapidly this reduces the time for adsorbtion. It could be that you are in the early stages of a maladsorption syndrome. Do a search for this to see the causes and how people treat it.
It is usually better to take a balanced B vitamin supplement as some of the B vitamins work together.
Hi Mendomaid - thanks so much for your feedback. Yeah - magnesium has seemed to have caused (or greatly contributed to) a craving for more fatty, calorie-rich foods....but I didn't really think to tie this to malabsorption syndrome. I thought most people with malabsorption syndrome lose substantial amounts of weight, and/or have problems gaining weight? I seem to have the opposite problem: I'm very overweight, I seem to be unable to lose weight, and I gain weight easily. In fact - I think this latest food-craze has caused me to gain some weight....just in these 3-4 weeks alone.
I have suspected that I have "leaky gut" for awhile now - I've noticed some (other) symptoms that indicate that this is a likely issue. Would this be similar to or related to malabsorption syndrome?
This is so frustrating to me - because I think magnesium has benefited me in other ways. For ex., my teeth feel quite a bit stronger/healthier than they have been - and they even look slightly better. I can sort-of see a few of the ways in which magnesium is said to work "synergistically" with Vitamin B6.
As for the thiamine - I did not take that supplement alone - I did take it along with a Vitamin B complex capsule. I thought it was o.k. to add extra amounts of individual B vitamins as long as you're also taking an overall B-complex.
Two of the most common causes of leaky gut are gluten sensitivities - Celiac Disease (Celaic Sprue) and non-Celiac Sprue. In both problems a person is unable to adsorb sufficient nutrients, minerals, vitmains but still many Celiac's are overweight. From what I have read in messages at Celiac.com Forums most of these overweight people lose weight when they follow a strict gluten free diet and they also have much less problems with food cravings. Even if the tests for CD come back negative some people find that following a GF diet beneficial. Parasites are also a common cause of leaky gut and maladsorbtion. No matter what the cause of leaky gut or intestinal most people find that they improve by following a program to help digestive health. If a person has gluten intolerance or sensitivity then the the problems will keep coming back or get worse.
Thanks again Mendomaid. I think I have to take a long, hard look at whether I have Celiac Sprue or non-Celiac Sprue. I wish the problem were more easily diagnosable. Why does it have to be such an ordeal to find out what exactly is going on with our bodies?
If I have some type of gut-issue, it would be nice to know whether it is something I've had my entire life. Throughout my life, I've never had any obvious/unusual gastrointestinal symptoms that would suggest Celiac/gluten-intolerance - but I have had other health problems that have progressed over the years and could ultimately tie back to the gut. Was the possible gut problem present for (nearly) all of my life and it is just now starting to reach the point where I'm beginning to notice - or was it triggered more recently by something (i.e. medications, or possibly a thyroid problem, or other possible environmental triggers).
Thanks for the link to celiac.com - I will try to continue looking over the information there to see if this condition could possibly be affecting me.
Ever since I started taking magnesium supplement I too notice an increase appetite. I stopped for awhile and lost a ton of weight but I had serious magesium deficiencies. So severe that I had a racing heart, anxiety and panic attacks! I was in the emergency twice in two days! I stared taking magnesium and has slowly started to calm my racing heart beat. Yes I'm gaining weight again. But I rather have that then feeling weak, panic attack or my heart is going to explode. Thank you God that I'm slowly doing better.
It may also be my adrenals too which MG is an important mineral too have. I do believe when taking it does move thing through your system but I also believe why people crave more fat is because calcium and magnesium compete in the body. Calcium is used to supply lipase which is an enzyme that breaks down fat. If your body isn't breaking down fats properly your going to crave more fat. You can take omega 3s which also reduces fat cravings or take a calcium supplement with vitamin D.
It's interesting because when I took an Epsom Salt bath last week, I felt very hungry the next day, and I noticed that my stomach would feel empty sooner than it would normally. Based on what I've read online, it's possible that the addition of Magnesium in our system makes our body's more effective in digesting food in our stomach, causing it to empty sooner and giving us the feeling of hunger. That's just a theory, so it would be great if other's could chime in.
I started taking Magnesium Citrate recently and have also noticed an increase in appetite and metabolism/digestion. I have also noticed more energy, mental clarity, and calmer nerves than before; along with a loss of water bloating in my face in the morning and slimmer abdominal region.
I am a physically and mentally active 22yr old male, and my body seems to be demanding more fuel to keep it going. I think this is a natural response, as I was on a somewhat calorie-restricted diet before. I've found that what IS important is WHAT you eat when the hunger kicks in.
I have been eating only natural foods; whole grains (brown rice, oats, quinoa), vegetables, fish (salmon, sardines), eggs, fruits, nuts, seeds, natural oils (olive, coconut); and it feels amazing! I would highly recommend a natural, wholesome diet to fuel your body's increasing demands rather than fast food and common snack food.
Avoid foods with added sugar, soft drinks, fried foods, potato chips, etc. A lot of these actually deplete your body of nutrients, while your body wants MORE nutrients. Your body will thank you for the natural food and reward you with clean, bursting energy! Hope this helps :)
I am doing back to back coffee enemas every second day or so, now for a month. For the last 2 days the enemas leave me feeling tired and a bit cramped in my muscles.
I am supposing this is because of electrolyte loss from the enemas. There are various articles online that suggest that the loss of fluid plus the nature of coffee takes electrolytes out of the body. On the other hand, there are posts from people with a lot of experience with CEs that say that this does not happen, for example, Dr. Wilson and Unyquity on this forum. Uny's logic is that electrolytes are not taken from the descending colon but only from the transverse and ascending colon, while CEs, when retained on the left side, do not reach beyond the descending colon.
I am trying to decide what to do on a daily basis so that I can continue with the CEs without getting weak and imbalanced. The electrolyte drinks in the market are too sugary for me, so I can make my own.
Juicing leafy vegetables with other vegetables or fruits seems common with those who do CEs. Dr. Gerson recommends, apparently, 3 glasses of juice for one CE. This is probably the most nutritious but also the most time consuming.
The other option is to make a quick electrolyte drink with orange / lemon juice, Sea Salt , honey and water, perhaps with some ACV added. I can do this in 15 minutes but I wonder if it is as sufficient to restore electrolytes and their balance as juices.
Some people also suggest just taking a mineral supplement. Has anyone tried this, and is it sufficient?
What do you think is the best way to avoid mineral / electrolyte depletion while doing frequent coffee enemas?
And what is the mechanism by which CEs deplete minerals / electrolytes?
I copy paste for you from Dr. Lawrence Wilson site:
"For most people, one to four coffee enemas daily are excellent. If one does four daily, I suggest doing two enemas back-to-back in the morning, and two back-to-back again in the afternoon. This has the most powerful effect, yet is very safe.
However, begin with no more than 4 tablespoons of coffee daily. More than this can cause nervousness in some people. Others can handle up to a total of 6 or 8 tablespoons of coffee daily."
Are you exceeding these 6 or 8 tablespoons recommendation?
Another question is what is your diet? Are you eating enough cooked vegetables?
Again, copy paste from the Dr. Lawrence Wilson:
Cooked vegetables are "extremely high in trace minerals. This is probably the most important reason for this diet. Most people are mineral-starved today! It is one of the most common problems on our planet. It is due to our agricultural methods, eating refined foods, stress and other factors.
Vegetables must be cooked well to obtain all the minerals that are locked inside the tough vegetable fibers. This is why the diet does not include raw salads."
Hi, I am doing 8 tablespoons, spread out either over 2 back to back CEs, or 3 back to back CEs. So it's either 4 tablespoons in one enema and then 4 tablespoons in the next, or 4 + 2 + 2.
I usually hold about 15 minutes but have experimented with holding upto 30 minutes.
I read of people doing more than 8 tablespoons and holding longer than 15-20 minutes, so I wanted to experiment. I suppose my body's limits are 8 tablespoons and 15 minutes, at the moment.
Apparently, some people believe that the more quantity and duration you have in your CE, the better, while others seem to think that there is a limit to both before the effect stops getting more.
I usually eat two medium sized meals a day, both of cooked vegetables with some brown or red rice. The vegetables I can get in organic form at this time of the year are different kinds of gourds, eggplant, cucumber, and some beans. I always add tomato and spinach/pok choy/celery to both and about half a teaspoon of Himalayan salt to each meal. Sometimes I replace the second meal with a large quantity of fruit.
I drink between 2 and 3 litres of water since I began adding extra salt.
From Dr. Wilson's write up it seems that I am using more coffee than I should, either in quantity or duration. That does make sense, although I would still not dismiss the idea that even if the amount of coffee is fine, one needs to secure one's mineral balance.
so i'm pretty much stumped on this one, despite numerous efforts to attain balance. i used MSM and hit some significant obstacles, which- as you will read, eventually snowballed into some fairly serious bullcrap. some of you folks seem pretty savvy, and maybe you have some ideas..
it's hard to provide adequate detail while maintaining brevity, so forgive the length of this post (assuming you decide to read through it!)
i've always had health issues, mostly subclinical, stuff doctors shrug about. OCD during early childhood into adolescence, which went away but was replaced with ADD and depression. never developed much of a sex drive, and was very low self esteem. started having digestion/ibs issues in high school, along with considerable auto-immuney joint inflammation. eventually it got bad enough that i developed tendinitis in both wrists, forcing me to give up music.
these symptoms persisted throughout college, becoming much worse when i somewhat suddenly developed chronic prostatitis at 22 yrs old. no actual prostate enlargement, but severe pain when sitting/urinating, almost complete loss of function. saw loads o' docs, all were typically dumbfounded and entirely unhelpful.
started taking msm on a whim. had been recommended by
a friend of a friend. supposedly safe. mostly tried it out to see if it could help my joints, since i missed playing guitar.. and damn, if that stuff didn't work like a miracle. within a couple months of taking it at about 2-3g/day, my joints were notably improved. my mood, too, unexpectedly. i suddenly felt lighter, and better about myself. i was more social, funnier, etc. months later i started noting a marked improvement in my prostatitis. slowly but surely, i enjoyed a 70-80% improvement. my hair grew, fast, looked awesome (typical of msm, i understand.) also unexpected, i, for the first time, developed a healthy and significant sex drive.. basically, i felt 'healthy' in way i never had before.
there were no real side effects (other than an inner thigh rash that lasted maybe the first six months of me taking the msm) until after about 2 years of treatment, i passed a kidney stone. real small one, but painful. more followed, with an increase in flank pain. many months later, i decided to halt the msm, since i suspected it to be related. a bizarre almost withdrawal period followed, in which i got hives around my midsection and battled a hardcore fever for a week or two..
after this wore off, my kidneys felt a bit better, but- to my disappointment, ALL my original symptoms returned. major depression, severe joint pain, prostate ugghhh and etc. i tried other rememdies: turmeric, enzymes, probiotics, fish oil, et al. and pretty much ALL of them helped, but again--caused the kidney pain to flare up. this tug of war has continued for years. me trying to keep the inflammatory symptoms in check without my kidneys suffering. at this point, my inflammation doesn't really flare up, and my kidneys don't really 'hurt', but function is flawed and seems poor. docs look at me like i'm ridiculous (and i'm sure i am) and my urine tests show no significant protein loss, but the kidney issue is definitely.. bad. it's like i'm stuck in the "on msm" state, but not able to support that state.. my hair still looks real good, well.. farrrr better than i feel, hah...
SO (again with apologies for the length of this post) i assume, having learned what i have learned about msm, methylation, copper levels and so forth, that i treated a relative mineral imbalance with sulfur only to create a deeper imbalance in the process.. i follow a mostly vegan diet because it seems to irritate my kidneys much less..
anyone out there have ideas on how to potentially dig myself out of this?
It seems to me that you had a lot of mental/emotional issues before the onset of all the health ones. Take up something to drastically alter you thought pattern ... this has helped me. We actually programme ourselves or allow programmes to work us ... and choosing thoughts is key to deprogramming.
Did you ever try a water fast for a day or two, with solar charged water (put out water in a glass jar with glass cover/glass bottle with cork/blue bottle with cork, in the sun for 5-6 hours) and complete rest. (And complete rest means no music, books, talking or moving around except to drink the solar water and go to the loo).
Coming off the fast you must be very careful to go gradually to liquids .. juices, coconut water, cinnamon-honey tea, etc and then move to organic salads, fruit, and then steamed veggies and light food. Take two days to come to your normal diet for a one day water fast.
A morning to morning fast can do wonders and may inspire you to try a longer one.
You are not the least idiotic, and am sure you'll crack this pretty pretty soon.
Have a miraculous day!
yea, thanks. i've considered fasting, but it's also been recommended that i don't. i'm on the very thin side to begin with. very vata, in ayurvedic terms. fasting can be helpful for excessive states, but can worsen deficiencies, in my experience.. but you're right about the fact that i really ought to carve out more time for 'stress free fasts'..
That part about solar charged water triggered my Googling thing.
Heres what somebody had to say about it.
Abysmal Darkenin I read your original post and then went and googled sungazing and sun charged water. It sounded interesting to me, so I read all I could find. Although I'm a bit lazy to commit to sun gazing. I believe it could work. Suncharged water is much easier. Set it and forget it until the evening.
Anyways, I put some water in the sun to charge. I started drinking it that same evening, while still warm. That night I could not go to sleep until 2am. I usually go at 10-11pm. Next morning I was up a 6 am. Thats only 4 hours sleep. I continued drinking more and I was charged and more active than I had been in years. I wasn't tired that day for lack of sleep. I'm usually napping at some point though the day. Well not this day.
I definately believe in suncharged water now. I give to to my pets now also. I'm hoping for it to help them with some health issues. We will see. Thanks for posting the info. I have used it and believe in it.
P.S. Used sun charged /suncharged in your search.
Solar charged brought up more stuff about solar powered water pumps.
Its cheap & free.The FDA can't make it illegal anytime soon.
the most consistent comment i get from everyone who takes SSKI is that their joints no longer ache, they can stand in one spot for longer periods of time, traverse uneven terrain easier, then of course more energy and mental acuity.
iodine is like oxygen and water as a basic need. try that first(and take it for life). if lack of Iodine was the problem - problem solved.
hair, nails, everything grew super fast. came in thicker, too. the msm, i get the impression, speeds up the rate at which your body metabolizes other minerals. probably why it works great for many, but wrecks a few.
Like many on here, I've been on this healing journey for lotsa yrs (decades) and over the yrs I "established" that certain things caused me probs, so I avoided them. The thing is, when we're out of balance, all of that goes out the window. That is, once back in balance those "bad" things are no longer bad. No longer cause a bad reaction (but note, poison in, poison out--avoid fake foods). So I'll just offer you this.
These things created imbalance and malnutrition for me:
*avoiding all salt and sugar
*not drinking enough water
*eating carbs without protein and fat
*too much or not right type of supplementation
*too much or, more usually, not enough exercise
*no daily de-stressing ritual (yoga/meditation)
*no routine emotional/creative expression (writing, crying...)
*too much work, not enough play
So here are a few significant things that have helped me. Eating every few hours (2 or 3, at the most). ALWAYS eat about the same, or a little less, protein in grams as carbs, AND include the amount of fat that you can handle. I love raw pumpkin seeds, almonds, coconut butter, and olive oil. Exercise, yoga/meditation, filtered water... Sea Salt , 1/8 to 1/4 per meal, in water is good. Local honey. Lotsa of high fiber crackers (I don't eat bread or pasta). Ceasing my vegetarian diet was crucial. Now I eat meat(slow-cooked) from the healthfood store... Organic EGGS (boiled), 2 per day, crucial. Herbal teas, green, red, peppermint...
But the real key is emotionally healing. Nothing is really gonna work until that aspect of it is addressed. That "thing" within will continue to sabotage our efforts until we start honoring our emotional self. Sit, get still, listen. Write about what comes. Let yourself feel it, cry, feel the anger, punch a pillow, rip up paper, whatever it takes to get it out...keep writing about it. Commit to doing this at least every other day, or every few days--for the rest of your life. Don't shrug on this one, or you'll spend a lifetime in the same mode you're in now.
Emotions are life. When ignored, they'll slowly destroy us. When honored, they will bring us "back to life."
I would like you to have an open mind about what I am going to write.
The fact that you had so many ailments at 22 is a good indication of malnutrition. But I am not surprised. I you read what I read about the depletion in food of the modern farming. The fact that you benefited for a while from MSM is another indication of the malnutrition from poor/junk food. Because MSM is a natural element found on vegetables. You took MSM as if it was the magic pill. Unfortunately ain't no such things.
As an agricultural scientist,
I would like to state that 85% of the minerals
are depleted in US crop soils. We only put three
(Nitrogen, Phosphorus, Potassium) back into the
soils to grow our crops because farmers are paid
on yield, not content. The animal industry has
eliminated over 900 diseases that still plague
humans by feeding animals pellets that contain
45 minerals. There is no health insurance for
beef...the industry had to adopt a preventative
system of health care through nutrition or your
hamburger would cost $275.00 a pound. We eliminated
muscular dystrophy in our farm animals 50 years
ago through supplementation to name one. Why?
Muscle is meat...we cannot afford to have that
disease in animals.
From the above we see how minerals are important.
A way to take a wide variety of minerals at the same times is to take Epsom salt, Blackstrap molasses, Kelp, unfiltered raw apple cider vinegar.
Another indication of mineral deficiencies is to have an acidic lymphatic system. This can be measured easily by measuring the pH of the urine and of the saliva.
You can learn more about the Acid/Alkaline pH balance principles at the following CZ forums:
thanks for the many words. in general, and in your nutritional thinking, i agree with you. it's really a shame, i think, that so many people are willing to load their bodies with so, so many supplements in hopes of healing themselves when they are-as you say-more than likely suffering from deficiencies and excesses that are far too holistically complex to correct with random, isolated and often inappropriate supplementation. many individuals who attempt (even successfully) to treat one health problem using supplements end up developing new ones to take its place.. i work as the supplement buyer and health consultant for a health food store (somewhat ironically) and so i witness this phenomenon all the time.. i have dabbled and investigated deeply into the PH balance protocols both through my own experiences and those of my customers. results tend to be mixed. PH balance diets, i believe, work for many individuals largely because those who adopt it were eating sub-optimal diets in the first place, and PH diets will in general boost an individuals nutrient intake substantially, forcing out most processed foods. the logic behind PH, though, seems overly reductionist to me. alkaline bad, acid good? without acids, alkaline minerals are entirely insoluble! and there are so very many different acids, both found in foods and produced metabolically. PH pushers might cut out the excess arachidonic found in heavy meats, but suddenly they're consuming loads of oxalic acid from greens and beans. which is not to say that this is a bad thing, just an example.. sorry to rant! and yea, i need to work on more de-stress. my main issue is that it seems like i caused, for myself, a very specific imbalance.. something that i suspect could be corrected and that, if corrected, would resolve my issues substantially. i know that i caused it, initially and peripherally, by taking too much msm, which is pure sulphur.. figuring out how to undo whatever changes i created has proven quite tricky!
Have you followed the Water Cure with the ocean-sea salt added to it? Try the Water Cure found on this curezone site and try free-form amino acids, too. It sounds like you are still deficient in something that is virtually undetectable. Good luck to you, your healing will come to you. And, I can't wait to read about it!!
While you don't have to listen to what I write, I hope it will give you some productive ideas for a good outcome.
First, let me make clear to other readers here; I do not care who may disagree with what I am about to write. These words are the result of *my own* long and intensively tested experience. I will put zero energy into arguing tit-for-tat with anyone.
So here's my point, Martel-
I have been studying health and healing for more years than I can count (at least 30 or so). I've watched all the "never eat this" and "always eat that" cr@p come and go, today XXXX will kill you, tomorrow it has been found to be actually healthy and will be the only thing that may save you, etc, blah blah blah.
I have learned a few things over this long time:
1. Restrictive diets which exclude *natural and unaltered* foods result in some degree of imbalance and malnutrition eventually.
2. No one single thing is likely to cure everybody with the same ailment (Although there may be strong commonalities), one may be able to limp along improved, but if you will pay further attention to your *individual body's messages*, you are much more likely to be able to leave the condition in the dust entirely and walk away healthy at last.
Here is what I *think* *may* have happened to you, Martel:
It sounds to me like the MSM may have been a very good thing for you, but one of the (many) things MSM does is to help clear obstructions to the cell-wall incoming and outgoing circulation, so that the silted-up gunk which acts like plaster against the cell walls can be moved out of the way and healing of the cell can take place.
I *think* that one of the key substances your body tried to remove to improve your health is probably one which was being eliminated- for whatever reason- through your kidneys; The Kidneys were getting overloaded and so when you stopped the MSM the overload had to try to get out through your skin (an alternate route of elimination), which resulted in the hives you describe in your waist area (Near the Kidneys, get it?). So the MSM did not "cause a problem". It actually got you to the next level, and now you would benefit greatly by using Liver- and Kidney-clearing herbs to remove *this stage* of obstacles to your returning health.
The body's major organs of elimination for waste and junk are: the Liver, the Kidneys, the Skin, the Lungs, of course the Bowel and Bladder are all-important too (and barfing, another expedient way to eliminate, also earwax :-)). In my observation, if the liver/bowel can't get rid of it, it backs up into the kidneys/urinarysystem as a next resort, then if the kidneys get overloaded, it backs up through the skin (This is why your skin is referred to as your "third Kidney"). It's my guess that there are your hives.
So I suggest you think about herbs, because they can be used to assist and clear the body's various organs over time (sometimes over very little time).
***If it were me****, I'd think about Cornsilk Tea for kidneys bladder and urinary system clearout (non-GMO and Organic only, please- Don't try to improvise with grocery store corn[think high pesticides]) or Hydrangea Root tea, and Swedish Bitters (@ Healthfood store, NatureWorks brand) to assist the Liver as quickly as possible.
For nutrition (to provide trace and other elements which are lacking sadly in current-day farmed produce), if it were me I'd be taking broken-cell-wall Chlorella, Alfalfa leaf, Kelp or Dulse, Irish Moss, Horsetail (for silica), (Cayenne in capsules), and using Celtic Sea Salt on food and in cooking to begin with.
Also test your responses to see if Cilantro gets a good response from your body. If it does, go for it.
It looks likely to me that the stuff you are ingesting or exposed to, and then are not eliminating efficiently, is most likely the issue. Whether it is in supplements or foods or environment I cannot tell from what you wrote, but it could be any or all of them.
If that's not it, then you may be missing some element that completes the process of effective elimination.
PS if you don't drink enough clear water, stuff can't be transported out so it silts back. http://www.watercure.com
I discovered with myself that any supplement which contains Calcium Carbonate as a filler or excipient lays the stuff right down like a *very* tough silt everywhere. Then I have to get it out. "'NOW Brand' Super Enzymes" in capsules (NOT tablets) will eventually get the Calcium Carbonate out. For me. And it takes awhile (weeks).
IMHO there is a lot for you to think about here. But *IMHO* you did a good thing by taking the MSM, and *if it were me* I'd resume it slowly and continue it, although you didn't say how much you are taking.
If it were me I'd also immediately DROP soda pop, white bread, white flour, white rice, white Sugar from my diet. About unmoderated alcohol or any smoking, well, do I need to say anything..?
I also do not slather anything onto my body that I would not eat :-).
Lastly Martel, I would like to say this to you:
"NEVER GIVE UP your endeavor for health. Keep reading and reading, keep studying, keep going, keep working at it, no matter what anyone says, no matter who tells you they think it's incurable."
BTW the poster who wrote about the acid-alkaline balance, etc- IMHO is 'right on' and I applaud them.
I wish you (and all of us) the very Best of Health Martel,
I've always taken MSM with Vitamin C to balance it. I currently take 4gms MSM 3x per day and dissolve each dose with 1gm of Vitamin C. It is even more effective to blend this mixture into Aloe Vera juice. That gives me so much energy that I only do it before yoga in the morning. I'd never sleep if I took it that way in the evening.
Three grams is considered a safe upper limit, though some people take much more. Given that mega doses of Vitamin C could cause kidney stones, I'd recommend that you start with 100mg of Vitamin C with each dose of MSM and increase it if you tolerate it.
Vitamin C is an antioxidant that is filtered and "wasted" through the kidneys, bathing them with protection from the toxins that MSM is flushing from the system. The body also needs Vitamin C to form healthy new tissues, specifically collagen that comprises cartilage and keeps skin firm. Any excess is eliminated within a few hours, which is why one needs to take it several times per day.
There are two ways that MSM is made. One is distilled and one is chemically made. Most MSM on the market is chemically made and I suspect that the kidney problems are caused by the chemicals they use to make MSM. I have been taking MSM for 4 years and have not had a problem, I use distilled MSM. Check when buying to make sure it is distilled. If you are in Australia you can get distilled MSM from organicherbalcoloncleanse.com
I know a guy who got kidney stones from his well water...the doctor knew other men from the same street he lived on and said, Oh you live on kidney stone alley! So I wonder what kind of water you drink? Also, the type as mentioned previously matters. How it's made. I read to get it in a feed store because the turnover is greater then for people but I still think you have to care that it's not made chemically.
Hopefully, you can try good water, good MSM and get back to where you were or better!
Can anyone give me some tips on how to bleed? I bought a lancet pen and that doesn't produce much blood. I have elevated ferritin 226 [24-335] and was told I'll feel a lot better after I lower it, and I think I will too. I can taste iron in my blood if I cut my finger. Am chelating using oral EDTA starting 2 weeks ago, which they say will lower the Iron a little but probably not enough.
They say leech therapy helps do this but it sounds a little gross to me.
I'm a 58 year old male. I can't give blood due to Hep C. So far I haven't been able to find phlebotomy. A Nurse in Seattle recommended it for me but no one here in TN wants to take an order from an ARNP 2400 miles away.
I don't think I have Hemo_____is. It's just elevated ferritin. Many people have it, and I was told many would be healthier if they lowered it but most MDs don't agree on what's the best level for Ferritin. That's one of the reasons why they say it's very healthy to donate blood, because it stimulates new blood formation - cleaner, newer, better blood.
Am not wanting to take any more supps. I already take a LOT : ALA, NAC, EDTA, etc.
I'm just going to have to keep trying until I find a way to get therapeutic phlebotomy.
Im also looking to decrease my iron for greater healthyness. I have ordered two natural iron chelators: ip6 (source naturals at vitacost) and lactoferrin (vrp.com). I dont know how effective they are but I know that the iron chelator drugs are all either very toxic or just not available in the US.
Online: Chelating iron seems to kill parasites, discourage bacteria growth, and even breakdown biofilms (antibiotic resistant bacteria defense mechanism). I am doing internet research to see how iron chelators may effect fungus also.
IP6 is a waste of time. You have to take it all by itself. If you take any food or supplements within 2 or 3 hours of IP6 it destroys any benefit the IP6 has. I tried it for a couple of years with slight to poor results
I switched to Lactoferrin from Jarrow a couple of years ago and the stuff works. You can take it on an empthy stomach, full stomach, with suppliments. It doesn't matter.
I get blood work every year and the dramatic decrease in iron was fantastic. There are lots of places to buy lactoferrin and everyone says theirs is best. Some cost $15 and some cost $50.
I went the $15 route at vitacost.com and the stuff rocks. It really does work.
get a small turkish tea cup, light a small wad of paper and place it inside the cup....quickly while it is still burning place it on the back in the centre just at the join of the neck (burning side facing on the body).
The fire will soon after extinguish and you will hardly feel any burn as it will be starved of oxygen and unable to burn... but the oxygen will slowly exhaust over the course of say 15 mins.... you back/skin will be sucked into the tea cup... leave this and it will cause an accumulation of blood - namely dirty toxic blood... after 20 or so minutes, remove the cup and you will find a big purple welt. slit this with a razor blade and lots or dark toxic blood will be released... this should lower you high iron levels and also rid your of toxins...
please google this as my explanation might be vague.
its totally safe and has been an eastern custom in many households for centuries. most feel very cleansed from it.
some do it on back of neck or forehead for headaches.
you will feel relief but have a bruise for a few days and a small cut. but you should heal fast. make sure the razor is sterile