I have oral thrush on tongue. I have tinea versicolor. My IgG came back extremely high against Candida albicans and my mercury was high (amalgams which I is removed over a year ago). I've used IMD quicksilver detox, chlorella/cilantro, pectaclear/oneworld whey, youngevity. I've used utopia colloidal, global healings mycozil, parasite cleanses, enemas, moritz liver flush, oil pulling.
I still have freaking white crap on my tongue. It always comes back. I just cut marijuana out. Alcohol out after nye. Following a pescatarian diet now for 2 months.
I'm now gonna go fully raw for 2-3 months using Robert morses herbs. (His 3 month kit, weeks 1-12).
I'm gonna use turpentine and Sugar 1 tsp with Sugar cubes every day for a couple weeks then 2-3 x a week.
I have mms on way. Have never used it.
Would it be too much to add this to my regime?
I've been liver flushing every 2-3 weeks. No big green stones but I get smelly brown crap out. Lots of floating debri, chaff looking crap. Possibly small bits of grey brown stone. And I'm not sure what else that sinks cause I can never see through the murk.
I will continue to liver flush.
Will this protocol take care of my oral thrush over time? The tinea with scrubbing in shower and anti fungal soaps. Turpentine soap included.
This should work right? The tongue is a display of the insides right? It shouldn't matter if I don't oil pull as long as I floss and brush regularly.
I also have eye floaters.
Middle back tightness. Especially in morning.
If I can't take mms with it. When can I and will the mms completely detox heavy metals throughout body other than what's in bones ? (I'll take chlorella and pectaclear for rest of life for that) plus youngevity essential 90.
Right now no supps for 2-3 months Besidesmagic minerals, youngevity digestive enzyme and Morse herbs in fear that Candida will eat my supps.
I found it very helpful to take pictures of my weight, close-ups of my eyes, whites of my eyes, sagging of my face, moles, freckles, wrinkles, stretch marks, and close-ups of my scalp to show hair thickness.
All these will improve and be more beautiful as I made changes in my lifestyle. It made me understand more and more how a healthy, alkaline, oxygenated body and face are so gorgeous.
And this gorgeousness belongs to everyone!
We just get back to the way animals have been living all along.
Very quickly on my road to regain my health, I discovered PH strips. You can get PH strips at health food stores or aquarium supply stores.
First thing in the morning before you brush your teeth, just spit on a little piece, and watch it change colour. Healthy saliva is 7.2 PH, full of alkalinity (calcium, magnesium, potassium, sodium) to build wonderful teeth.
Likely though, like most adults, especially women, who have been on the pill, or people who are taking medication, they are likely acidic, below 7.2, more like 5.0-6.5.
Women also tend to get bladder and yeast infections which they take many courses of antibiotics for. This adds to their acidity.
Antibiotics also kill off good bacteria, allowing harmful yeast to grow, and this harmful yeast increases acidity.
Remember, the goal is to become alkaline. Children are often a healthy 7.2, with alkaline, oxygenated bodies. That's one of the reasons they have oodles of energy.
Adults become more acidic as they use up alkaline resources to neutralize toxins taken in.
Your PH will go down when you fall off the health wagon. But as it climbs to healthy numbers, it will give you more incentive to stay on the straight and narrow.
First, I bought a juicer. Every day, I would juice green veggies, with some purple, and other colours.
The green I usually get is kale, spinach, Swiss chard, and some Chinese vegetables. I also add a purple, like beets and purple cabbage. And then I rotate the other colours like red- tomatoes, orange- carrots ect.
Not too many carrots, or you'll turn orange After a couple of months juicing too many carrots, I turned orange!
I juice for supper, around 4 or 5pm.
You would think that's not enough food. But I noticed that as my minerals went up, the less hungry I was. I used to be hungry an hour after a regular supper because it didn't have the minerals that I needed.
Now I drink 20 oz, about 3 cups of veggie juice. That's equal to possibly 10 servings of veggies. (One serving is one stick of celery.) Sometimes I put in 3 or more, so it's easily 10 servings!
I also juice extra, and put it in used pasta jars and freeze them. Every morning, I take one out, and as it thaws, I drink some.
Freezing does damage some of the nutrition in the juice, but I am more interested in the minerals. And they are not damaged by freezing.
I often get green juice twice a day. If you drink your juice before supper, you will probably eat much less.
The huge difference in drinking a lot of green juice will be your poo. I'll talk about poo a lot because it's key to getting healthy. Your poo will be green or purple based on the colour the juice was.
You should poo double or triple what you normally would.
This is my first step because this will clean out your colon, so you will absorb more nutrition. As your colon cleans up, then you can look into supplementing with minerals your food is lacking.
There are 60 minerals we need.
You know you're low of various minerals when you have these symptoms:
grey hair and wrinkles is copper
thinning hair is tin
muscle cramps, receding gums, and PMS is calcium
liver spots is selenium
low blood Sugar and diabetes is chromium and vanadium
osteoporosis and menopause symptoms is boron
poor sense of smell and taste is zinc
...and there's many, many more.
Veterinarians have known about this for years, but the general public doesn't understand this.
Our small intestine and colon are positively charged, so these negatively charged minerals are attracted to them.
That's why plants are so important to our health.
They take minerals in the ground, which are teeny, tiny little rocks, and convert them into colloidal form, 7000x smaller than a red blood cell.
So we can divide food into two groups:
-those with negative charges that will neutralize free radicals in the body. The source is raw fruits, veggies, and soaked nuts and seeds.
By the way, we have 50% the same DNA as a banana.
We don't completely understand the process, but we can imagine our body breaking apart a banana's DNA, and easily turning it's parts into human DNA.
On the other hand, cooked food loses it's antioxidants or it's negative charge. So you're adding positively charged burden to your body.
-the other group is positive charged foods (anything cooked)
Also, the DNA disappears.
In a fire, when they try to identify DNA, they usually have to use the bones, because all burned flesh loses it's DNA and is not identifiable.
So eating cooked animal products is more difficult for the body to turn into human DNA.
My first steps: I concentrated on drinking green juice, getting minerals and using the washroom-lots!
so i'm pretty much stumped on this one, despite numerous efforts to attain balance. i used MSM and hit some significant obstacles, which- as you will read, eventually snowballed into some fairly serious bullcrap. some of you folks seem pretty savvy, and maybe you have some ideas..
it's hard to provide adequate detail while maintaining brevity, so forgive the length of this post (assuming you decide to read through it!)
i've always had health issues, mostly subclinical, stuff doctors shrug about. OCD during early childhood into adolescence, which went away but was replaced with ADD and depression. never developed much of a sex drive, and was very low self esteem. started having digestion/ibs issues in high school, along with considerable auto-immuney joint inflammation. eventually it got bad enough that i developed tendinitis in both wrists, forcing me to give up music.
these symptoms persisted throughout college, becoming much worse when i somewhat suddenly developed chronic prostatitis at 22 yrs old. no actual prostate enlargement, but severe pain when sitting/urinating, almost complete loss of function. saw loads o' docs, all were typically dumbfounded and entirely unhelpful.
started taking msm on a whim. had been recommended by
a friend of a friend. supposedly safe. mostly tried it out to see if it could help my joints, since i missed playing guitar.. and damn, if that stuff didn't work like a miracle. within a couple months of taking it at about 2-3g/day, my joints were notably improved. my mood, too, unexpectedly. i suddenly felt lighter, and better about myself. i was more social, funnier, etc. months later i started noting a marked improvement in my prostatitis. slowly but surely, i enjoyed a 70-80% improvement. my hair grew, fast, looked awesome (typical of msm, i understand.) also unexpected, i, for the first time, developed a healthy and significant sex drive.. basically, i felt 'healthy' in way i never had before.
there were no real side effects (other than an inner thigh rash that lasted maybe the first six months of me taking the msm) until after about 2 years of treatment, i passed a kidney stone. real small one, but painful. more followed, with an increase in flank pain. many months later, i decided to halt the msm, since i suspected it to be related. a bizarre almost withdrawal period followed, in which i got hives around my midsection and battled a hardcore fever for a week or two..
after this wore off, my kidneys felt a bit better, but- to my disappointment, ALL my original symptoms returned. major depression, severe joint pain, prostate ugghhh and etc. i tried other rememdies: turmeric, enzymes, probiotics, fish oil, et al. and pretty much ALL of them helped, but again--caused the kidney pain to flare up. this tug of war has continued for years. me trying to keep the inflammatory symptoms in check without my kidneys suffering. at this point, my inflammation doesn't really flare up, and my kidneys don't really 'hurt', but function is flawed and seems poor. docs look at me like i'm ridiculous (and i'm sure i am) and my urine tests show no significant protein loss, but the kidney issue is definitely.. bad. it's like i'm stuck in the "on msm" state, but not able to support that state.. my hair still looks real good, well.. farrrr better than i feel, hah...
SO (again with apologies for the length of this post) i assume, having learned what i have learned about msm, methylation, copper levels and so forth, that i treated a relative mineral imbalance with sulfur only to create a deeper imbalance in the process.. i follow a mostly vegan diet because it seems to irritate my kidneys much less..
anyone out there have ideas on how to potentially dig myself out of this?
It seems to me that you had a lot of mental/emotional issues before the onset of all the health ones. Take up something to drastically alter you thought pattern ... this has helped me. We actually programme ourselves or allow programmes to work us ... and choosing thoughts is key to deprogramming.
Did you ever try a water fast for a day or two, with solar charged water (put out water in a glass jar with glass cover/glass bottle with cork/blue bottle with cork, in the sun for 5-6 hours) and complete rest. (And complete rest means no music, books, talking or moving around except to drink the solar water and go to the loo).
Coming off the fast you must be very careful to go gradually to liquids .. juices, coconut water, cinnamon-honey tea, etc and then move to organic salads, fruit, and then steamed veggies and light food. Take two days to come to your normal diet for a one day water fast.
A morning to morning fast can do wonders and may inspire you to try a longer one.
You are not the least idiotic, and am sure you'll crack this pretty pretty soon.
Have a miraculous day!
yea, thanks. i've considered fasting, but it's also been recommended that i don't. i'm on the very thin side to begin with. very vata, in ayurvedic terms. fasting can be helpful for excessive states, but can worsen deficiencies, in my experience.. but you're right about the fact that i really ought to carve out more time for 'stress free fasts'..
That part about solar charged water triggered my Googling thing.
Heres what somebody had to say about it.
Abysmal Darkenin I read your original post and then went and googled sungazing and sun charged water. It sounded interesting to me, so I read all I could find. Although I'm a bit lazy to commit to sun gazing. I believe it could work. Suncharged water is much easier. Set it and forget it until the evening.
Anyways, I put some water in the sun to charge. I started drinking it that same evening, while still warm. That night I could not go to sleep until 2am. I usually go at 10-11pm. Next morning I was up a 6 am. Thats only 4 hours sleep. I continued drinking more and I was charged and more active than I had been in years. I wasn't tired that day for lack of sleep. I'm usually napping at some point though the day. Well not this day.
I definately believe in suncharged water now. I give to to my pets now also. I'm hoping for it to help them with some health issues. We will see. Thanks for posting the info. I have used it and believe in it.
P.S. Used sun charged /suncharged in your search.
Solar charged brought up more stuff about solar powered water pumps.
Its cheap & free.The FDA can't make it illegal anytime soon.
the most consistent comment i get from everyone who takes SSKI is that their joints no longer ache, they can stand in one spot for longer periods of time, traverse uneven terrain easier, then of course more energy and mental acuity.
iodine is like oxygen and water as a basic need. try that first(and take it for life). if lack of Iodine was the problem - problem solved.
hair, nails, everything grew super fast. came in thicker, too. the msm, i get the impression, speeds up the rate at which your body metabolizes other minerals. probably why it works great for many, but wrecks a few.
Like many on here, I've been on this healing journey for lotsa yrs (decades) and over the yrs I "established" that certain things caused me probs, so I avoided them. The thing is, when we're out of balance, all of that goes out the window. That is, once back in balance those "bad" things are no longer bad. No longer cause a bad reaction (but note, poison in, poison out--avoid fake foods). So I'll just offer you this.
These things created imbalance and malnutrition for me:
*avoiding all salt and sugar
*not drinking enough water
*eating carbs without protein and fat
*too much or not right type of supplementation
*too much or, more usually, not enough exercise
*no daily de-stressing ritual (yoga/meditation)
*no routine emotional/creative expression (writing, crying...)
*too much work, not enough play
So here are a few significant things that have helped me. Eating every few hours (2 or 3, at the most). ALWAYS eat about the same, or a little less, protein in grams as carbs, AND include the amount of fat that you can handle. I love raw pumpkin seeds, almonds, coconut butter, and olive oil. Exercise, yoga/meditation, filtered water... Sea Salt , 1/8 to 1/4 per meal, in water is good. Local honey. Lotsa of high fiber crackers (I don't eat bread or pasta). Ceasing my vegetarian diet was crucial. Now I eat meat(slow-cooked) from the healthfood store... Organic EGGS (boiled), 2 per day, crucial. Herbal teas, green, red, peppermint...
But the real key is emotionally healing. Nothing is really gonna work until that aspect of it is addressed. That "thing" within will continue to sabotage our efforts until we start honoring our emotional self. Sit, get still, listen. Write about what comes. Let yourself feel it, cry, feel the anger, punch a pillow, rip up paper, whatever it takes to get it out...keep writing about it. Commit to doing this at least every other day, or every few days--for the rest of your life. Don't shrug on this one, or you'll spend a lifetime in the same mode you're in now.
Emotions are life. When ignored, they'll slowly destroy us. When honored, they will bring us "back to life."
I would like you to have an open mind about what I am going to write.
The fact that you had so many ailments at 22 is a good indication of malnutrition. But I am not surprised. I you read what I read about the depletion in food of the modern farming. The fact that you benefited for a while from MSM is another indication of the malnutrition from poor/junk food. Because MSM is a natural element found on vegetables. You took MSM as if it was the magic pill. Unfortunately ain't no such things.
As an agricultural scientist,
I would like to state that 85% of the minerals
are depleted in US crop soils. We only put three
(Nitrogen, Phosphorus, Potassium) back into the
soils to grow our crops because farmers are paid
on yield, not content. The animal industry has
eliminated over 900 diseases that still plague
humans by feeding animals pellets that contain
45 minerals. There is no health insurance for
beef...the industry had to adopt a preventative
system of health care through nutrition or your
hamburger would cost $275.00 a pound. We eliminated
muscular dystrophy in our farm animals 50 years
ago through supplementation to name one. Why?
Muscle is meat...we cannot afford to have that
disease in animals.
From the above we see how minerals are important.
A way to take a wide variety of minerals at the same times is to take Epsom salt, Blackstrap molasses, Kelp, unfiltered raw apple cider vinegar.
Another indication of mineral deficiencies is to have an acidic lymphatic system. This can be measured easily by measuring the pH of the urine and of the saliva.
You can learn more about the Acid/Alkaline pH balance principles at the following CZ forums:
thanks for the many words. in general, and in your nutritional thinking, i agree with you. it's really a shame, i think, that so many people are willing to load their bodies with so, so many supplements in hopes of healing themselves when they are-as you say-more than likely suffering from deficiencies and excesses that are far too holistically complex to correct with random, isolated and often inappropriate supplementation. many individuals who attempt (even successfully) to treat one health problem using supplements end up developing new ones to take its place.. i work as the supplement buyer and health consultant for a health food store (somewhat ironically) and so i witness this phenomenon all the time.. i have dabbled and investigated deeply into the PH balance protocols both through my own experiences and those of my customers. results tend to be mixed. PH balance diets, i believe, work for many individuals largely because those who adopt it were eating sub-optimal diets in the first place, and PH diets will in general boost an individuals nutrient intake substantially, forcing out most processed foods. the logic behind PH, though, seems overly reductionist to me. alkaline bad, acid good? without acids, alkaline minerals are entirely insoluble! and there are so very many different acids, both found in foods and produced metabolically. PH pushers might cut out the excess arachidonic found in heavy meats, but suddenly they're consuming loads of oxalic acid from greens and beans. which is not to say that this is a bad thing, just an example.. sorry to rant! and yea, i need to work on more de-stress. my main issue is that it seems like i caused, for myself, a very specific imbalance.. something that i suspect could be corrected and that, if corrected, would resolve my issues substantially. i know that i caused it, initially and peripherally, by taking too much msm, which is pure sulphur.. figuring out how to undo whatever changes i created has proven quite tricky!
Have you followed the Water Cure with the ocean-sea salt added to it? Try the Water Cure found on this curezone site and try free-form amino acids, too. It sounds like you are still deficient in something that is virtually undetectable. Good luck to you, your healing will come to you. And, I can't wait to read about it!!
While you don't have to listen to what I write, I hope it will give you some productive ideas for a good outcome.
First, let me make clear to other readers here; I do not care who may disagree with what I am about to write. These words are the result of *my own* long and intensively tested experience. I will put zero energy into arguing tit-for-tat with anyone.
So here's my point, Martel-
I have been studying health and healing for more years than I can count (at least 30 or so). I've watched all the "never eat this" and "always eat that" cr@p come and go, today XXXX will kill you, tomorrow it has been found to be actually healthy and will be the only thing that may save you, etc, blah blah blah.
I have learned a few things over this long time:
1. Restrictive diets which exclude *natural and unaltered* foods result in some degree of imbalance and malnutrition eventually.
2. No one single thing is likely to cure everybody with the same ailment (Although there may be strong commonalities), one may be able to limp along improved, but if you will pay further attention to your *individual body's messages*, you are much more likely to be able to leave the condition in the dust entirely and walk away healthy at last.
Here is what I *think* *may* have happened to you, Martel:
It sounds to me like the MSM may have been a very good thing for you, but one of the (many) things MSM does is to help clear obstructions to the cell-wall incoming and outgoing circulation, so that the silted-up gunk which acts like plaster against the cell walls can be moved out of the way and healing of the cell can take place.
I *think* that one of the key substances your body tried to remove to improve your health is probably one which was being eliminated- for whatever reason- through your kidneys; The Kidneys were getting overloaded and so when you stopped the MSM the overload had to try to get out through your skin (an alternate route of elimination), which resulted in the hives you describe in your waist area (Near the Kidneys, get it?). So the MSM did not "cause a problem". It actually got you to the next level, and now you would benefit greatly by using Liver- and Kidney-clearing herbs to remove *this stage* of obstacles to your returning health.
The body's major organs of elimination for waste and junk are: the Liver, the Kidneys, the Skin, the Lungs, of course the Bowel and Bladder are all-important too (and barfing, another expedient way to eliminate, also earwax :-)). In my observation, if the liver/bowel can't get rid of it, it backs up into the kidneys/urinarysystem as a next resort, then if the kidneys get overloaded, it backs up through the skin (This is why your skin is referred to as your "third Kidney"). It's my guess that there are your hives.
So I suggest you think about herbs, because they can be used to assist and clear the body's various organs over time (sometimes over very little time).
***If it were me****, I'd think about Cornsilk Tea for kidneys bladder and urinary system clearout (non-GMO and Organic only, please- Don't try to improvise with grocery store corn[think high pesticides]) or Hydrangea Root tea, and Swedish Bitters (@ Healthfood store, NatureWorks brand) to assist the Liver as quickly as possible.
For nutrition (to provide trace and other elements which are lacking sadly in current-day farmed produce), if it were me I'd be taking broken-cell-wall Chlorella, Alfalfa leaf, Kelp or Dulse, Irish Moss, Horsetail (for silica), (Cayenne in capsules), and using Celtic Sea Salt on food and in cooking to begin with.
Also test your responses to see if Cilantro gets a good response from your body. If it does, go for it.
It looks likely to me that the stuff you are ingesting or exposed to, and then are not eliminating efficiently, is most likely the issue. Whether it is in supplements or foods or environment I cannot tell from what you wrote, but it could be any or all of them.
If that's not it, then you may be missing some element that completes the process of effective elimination.
PS if you don't drink enough clear water, stuff can't be transported out so it silts back. http://www.watercure.com
I discovered with myself that any supplement which contains Calcium Carbonate as a filler or excipient lays the stuff right down like a *very* tough silt everywhere. Then I have to get it out. "'NOW Brand' Super Enzymes" in capsules (NOT tablets) will eventually get the Calcium Carbonate out. For me. And it takes awhile (weeks).
IMHO there is a lot for you to think about here. But *IMHO* you did a good thing by taking the MSM, and *if it were me* I'd resume it slowly and continue it, although you didn't say how much you are taking.
If it were me I'd also immediately DROP soda pop, white bread, white flour, white rice, white Sugar from my diet. About unmoderated alcohol or any smoking, well, do I need to say anything..?
I also do not slather anything onto my body that I would not eat :-).
Lastly Martel, I would like to say this to you:
"NEVER GIVE UP your endeavor for health. Keep reading and reading, keep studying, keep going, keep working at it, no matter what anyone says, no matter who tells you they think it's incurable."
BTW the poster who wrote about the acid-alkaline balance, etc- IMHO is 'right on' and I applaud them.
I wish you (and all of us) the very Best of Health Martel,
I've always taken MSM with Vitamin C to balance it. I currently take 4gms MSM 3x per day and dissolve each dose with 1gm of Vitamin C. It is even more effective to blend this mixture into Aloe Vera juice. That gives me so much energy that I only do it before yoga in the morning. I'd never sleep if I took it that way in the evening.
Three grams is considered a safe upper limit, though some people take much more. Given that mega doses of Vitamin C could cause kidney stones, I'd recommend that you start with 100mg of Vitamin C with each dose of MSM and increase it if you tolerate it.
Vitamin C is an antioxidant that is filtered and "wasted" through the kidneys, bathing them with protection from the toxins that MSM is flushing from the system. The body also needs Vitamin C to form healthy new tissues, specifically collagen that comprises cartilage and keeps skin firm. Any excess is eliminated within a few hours, which is why one needs to take it several times per day.
There are two ways that MSM is made. One is distilled and one is chemically made. Most MSM on the market is chemically made and I suspect that the kidney problems are caused by the chemicals they use to make MSM. I have been taking MSM for 4 years and have not had a problem, I use distilled MSM. Check when buying to make sure it is distilled. If you are in Australia you can get distilled MSM from organicherbalcoloncleanse.com
I know a guy who got kidney stones from his well water...the doctor knew other men from the same street he lived on and said, Oh you live on kidney stone alley! So I wonder what kind of water you drink? Also, the type as mentioned previously matters. How it's made. I read to get it in a feed store because the turnover is greater then for people but I still think you have to care that it's not made chemically.
Hopefully, you can try good water, good MSM and get back to where you were or better!
Hey...I just wandered onto this thread and wanted to throw in my 2 cents because my issue kinda runs parallel to yours. I am pretty sure I have an oxalate problem as I also get kidney pain. Never passed a stone...yet. What kicked all of that into my knowledge was my bad experience with high dosing vitamin c. Very bad a idea for anyone who has oxalate issues. I have gone on a moderate oxalate diet since then. 2 things that can turn into oxalate in the body...vitamin c and glycine (bone broth or collagen supplement). Just curious if u were messing around with bone broth? I started on a little msm because I felt I was having trouble detoxing the oxalate. I did a lot of methylation stuff with magnesium, folate, methyl b's etc. but I guess the sulfur pathways need to be open as well or the organs can have trouble with the excess oxalate. I am no expert obviously but I think we are riding down the same path of oxalate problems. Check out Susan Owens. She is the guru of oxalate. I am gonna go easy on the msm and methyl/magnesium but I'm gonna forge forward with both strategies hoping to detox over time without destroying my organs. Anyway...could keep on rambling but any updates on your situation? Or thoughts from anyone else about oxalate detox or whatever??
I think your biggest mistake was stopping the MSM. It is the most all encompassing supplement you could ever take because it helps ALL cells communicate better - including those within your kidneys. The best place to learn all of what this stuff can do is at Bill Rich Distributing(I'm not a salesman for them). One of the keys to its effectiveness is to take a modest amount of Vitamin C with it because it acts as catalyst. Also, if you weren't ingesting 64 ounces of water a day, that could have presented a hardship on your kidneys that they couldn't sustain. Bill Rich has other cutting edge supplements that may be able to bring your kidneys to full health if you take them alongside the MSM. Bill Rich has been the expert on MSM since the 1990's. You were wise for giving MSM a good while to kick in. I think if you call Bill Rich about your whole history, they would give you wise counsel. Best of everything to you.