I moved to FL in February, and only a few months later had a psoriases outbreak on my hands. Started on the outer sides of the hands and backs, moved slowly to cover the entire back, moved up my fingers on the fronts and back. This happened over some months. Hands would become so itchy at times, all over.
I've had psoriases once before in my life, during college and working full time. Very stressful time. They it was spots of psoriases randomly over my body. I used a natural cream and it cleared up.
New symptoms were only on hands.
Over my life before my move to FL I had accumulated ~20 cherry angiomas.
I tried a strict elimination diet, nothing helped psoriases. In fact it just kept getting worse. Certain foods did seem to make my hands worse, but not eating those foods didn't cure the symptoms.
Then mid year last year I got dyshidrotic eczema on my hands as well.
Finally in august I discovered iodine. Just before I started Iodine I monitored my angiomas. I had after moving to FL in Feb to June gone from 20 to 55. In just the month of July I had 20 more.
Beginning of August I started Iodine and selenium and B complex vitamin. At this point I was thinking there must be fluoride in my drinking water or something. I tried spring water, didn't help (although there could very easily be flouride in that water as well).
Hands cleared up completely over the next 2-3 months on iodine and I've had no new angiomas!
Everything was great, I worked up to one 50mg Ioderal tablet daily & 200mcg of Selenium & a B complex containing ~100mg of most of the B vitamins.
Suddenly I seemed to notice hair thinning on the top middle of my head just this year. I had not noticed any thinning before starting Iodine.
Looked on here, saw some people said taking magnesium helped with hair thinning while on Iodine.
Started taking 200mg of magnesium in the last month.
My doc had said to also start taking 5000IU of vitamin D for the hair loss.
When I started that I immediately started feeling fatigued in the afternoons and would just crash. Like total shut down.
I read that vitamin D requires magnesium or else it can fatigue you, so I thought maybe I wasn't taking enough magnesium.
So I backed off the vit D, have upped magnesium to 300-400 mg daily, and have started re-introducing vitamin D at a slower pace (2500IU every other day, building to 2500IU daily, about to alternate 2500/5000 every other day).
But suddenly in the last couple weeks my psoriasis has started to come back. I've experienced some itching, dry skin, minor dishydrosis bumps, all in the same place it started before.
Could the addition of magnesium be causing this? Is it just a temporary flare up due to magnesium pulling things out of my system?
I had my S-TSH taken when I began iodine and it was 7.06mlU/L, then a month ago it was back down to 3.9mlU/L.
In the iodine book Dr Brownstein said this is normal and that when it drops down to normal levels again (which mine are now at) the thyroid is saturated with Iodine. Does that mean my psoriasis is related to something other than iodine deficiency?
I also just discovered that the protein powder I supplement with contains 2% sucralose. Also, I think I'm getting flouride from my water which I drink a lot of daily.
Should I up my iodine intake to 2 ioderals? Could that have any detrimental effects I should look out for (like faster hair thinning?) or would it just keep purging?
Any advice on the hair loss or otherwise is appreciated.
Also, thank you so much to this forum. The information here has been so useful. Thank you to everyone who takes the time to share!
in florida you shouldnt need to supplement D. D3 suppresses the immune system. Iodine and sunshine should do it. the sun isnt a problem. its the radioactive particles raining down on you outside. along with deliberately dumping it on us we have already been through several nuclear wars. yes. we merely bombed ourselves instead of the other guy(s). if the goal was to be the one to nuke yourself the most, we won.
oh, yes, and something else - all wars since bosnia (at least) has been nuclear - both tactical thermonuclear devices and literally tons of tons of depleted uranium shot from guns and vaporaized into deadly clouds of fluorine and uranium.
On the Vitamin D3, I don't get a lot of sunshine even though I'm in FL. But I see webmd says D3 boosts the immune system. Is there more to this than what they are saying? Why do you say it suppresses it?
real vitamin D made on your own skin from your own cholesterol and sunshine and then reabsorbed into your skin (dont wash or towel off for a time to allow absorption) will definitely boost your immune system. this makes sunshine anti-cancerous, not cancerous. yeah, its just the opposite of what webmd says. that makes them as accurate as a broken watch - once out of every twelve times.
this, too, is on purpose. the more poisons the merrier. it makes for much plausible deniability and victims ignorant long enough not to impede the system or be around long enough to blow the whistle. drs bury their mistakes.
I don't consider magnesium to ever be a bad player. Sometimes the form of magnesium is an individual issue, such as I can't take magnesium taurate or magnesium aspartate, but magnesium citrate, malate, and bicarbonate are good for me, personally. It can be so hard to hold onto to magnesium that I think most people should take as much as their gut will allow -- you don't want diarrhea from it.
Some time when you test TSH again, also test RBC magnesium. It should be at least 6.0 mg/dL.
Sometimes hair loss is related to being hypothyroid or having low iron. Invariably when I start losing more hair than normal, my iron is low.
Sometimes skin issues are helped with zinc. You might consider using 25-30 mg of zinc picolinate or citrate. You may also need 1-2 mg copper to balance, taken at a different time from the zinc.
Generally, sun and salt water can be very beneficial in healing skin.
If I understand you correctly, you suggest SSKI because it is better suited to helping the thyroid? So even if I use SSKI I may still have deficiency of Iodine, but it could help clear up my thyroid issues faster than taking more Ioderal. I have gone ahead and ordered some SSKI.
I am about to start a new multi-vitamin that has much more zinc than my last, so thanks for that suggestion. I'll see how that goes.
"It can be so hard to hold onto to magnesium that I think most people should take as much as their gut will allow -- you don't want diarrhea from it."
Ah, I have been using "Doctor's Best" which is glycinate and lysinate, 100mg per pill and I've been taking 3 or 4 a day. Maybe I need to back off because I've been experiencing some minor symptoms you mention.
As of the beginning of Feb my Iron % Sa was 37%, and Iron was 93 mcg/dL which I guess are acceptable. I haven't studied Iron much yet. Would you say that is low? I'm a 155lb male.
I have been reading (skimming) posts about SSKI and lung issues.
I have this killer bronchitis. It was originally combined with a bacterial infection and I was taking loads of osha root and upping my intake of lugol's, vitamin C, and A.
I am also passing loads of rope worms and other particles from the other end (sorry, folks).
I think it may actually be a huge detox reaction (finally, after six months) to the Lugol's, because I am coughing up these black particles from deep in my lungs. Also some mutated blood particles (they are hard and hold their shape in the mucous).
I wanted to know if I can just add vitamin C to my Lugol's to jerry rig some SSKI , or do I have to make a separate solution?
Really tired, and don't know if I'm up to it. But I will if I have to...
Mixing Lugol's and Vitamin C won't give you SSKI , but it will give you Iodide only, if you're thinking you would tolerate that best. SSKI is a more intense dose per drop -- Trapper's is 23 mg Iodide per drop (30 mg potassium iodide).
Thank you. A lot to learn. Was just reading about which organs prefer which kind of iodine/iodide.
Added some vitamin C to my Lugol's and took it to see what would happen. Felt really good, and a lot of mucous came up. I think I'm going to move in that direction, somewhat of an SSKI with some Iodine mixed in.
I haven't had the same wonderful reaction I was initially getting to Lugol's for a while now, and it felt like 'too much.' I believe that my body is 'going towards' the Iodide direction. This makes sense, as I have thyroid and lung issues.
KI is the molecule the body uses. the thyroid makes thyroid hormones with the iodine. yes, the KI molecule is broken up by the thyroid. T1, T2, T3, and T4 all designate how many atoms of Iodine they have in them in their names. KI, the molecule used to "iodize" salt, is broken aprt and recombined by the body all the time. it provides elemental Iodine to the places it is needed.
look at it this way. iodide, the salt, is just food. the elemental form as in Lugols is caustic, reactive, and corrective in nature. it is more like medicine. i still take iodine every day because i can, but is it necessary? probably not most of the time, especially in one who is iosdine sufficient, which can take 3 months or 3 years, depending on the condition of the person.
as for the lungs, KI is an expectorant, not an antibiotic. ozone directly into the blood is what i prefer for infections.
I've been taking 100mg/day of Lugols for a couple months, and the detox was really easy. Way better than when I was at around 6mg per day.
But when I introduce a few drops of Trapper's SSKI (30mg per drop) I get noticeable side effects.
- headaches/pain at back of neck
- joint pain (inflamation?) of knees
- trouble falling asleep at night (I take SSKI in the morning)
I've tried everything from 60mg to 200mg of this stuff. Generally I give up after a few days and the side effects creep in.
Any tips... like should I mega dose just like with Lugols, and start right at 1 gram?
EDIT: I am taking the recommended cofactors. 200-400 selenium, 2g vit C, 800 magnesium, vit B cofactors, 30mg zinc.
We may tolerate SSKI well, but that's not to say we don't detox like crazy with it. It seems that Lugol's and SSKI hit different spots to detox, and there's no question SSKI is powerful medicine. You'll just need to play with different amounts of each to see what suits you for steady, tolerable detox.
You didn't mention salted water. It's great for moving bromine to your kidneys for elimination.
Never take 1 gram of Lugol's. I believe that Lugol's should be taken at no more than 300 mg, though even then some people would need to use it in Vitamin C solution to make the Iodine tolerable. Iodine in large doses is rough to handle. I've never tolerated more than 150 mg myself, used in conjunction with some SSKI for balance. My husband uses SSKI only, but I've always preferred both.
there are reasons for precise measurements with salt and water for certain things, like neti and the salt push. too much salt can cause real bad swelling, discomfort, or worse. not enough salt is ineffective.
experience, boldness, and determination will win this battle every time.
Hi, I started increasing Iodine very gradually from October as per the hashimotos protocol, (not sure if I have it but I think I do, TSH 4.8 + 3.6, cold hands etc) great the first few weeks, but from January started to sweat in the evenings, in bed and mornings - cooler during the day though. Heart rate gradually increased too. 4 days ago I got really hot with strong palpitations espcially in the neck, I had only reached 4.5mg of Iodine at this point. I stopped iodine and it subsided after 2 days, although I still feel them mildly, and I am feeling wired and anxious. I religiously took all of the co supplements, no gluten/dairy/alcohol/caffeine - healthy diet, juices, fruit, veg etc. I must admit I am frightened to start again now as it was similar symptoms to my mother who now has heart failure - is there anything I missed or did wrong? grateful for any insight - I am continuing with supps and salted water but only the iodine in my multi at the moment which is the RDA.
I can only generalize. Wired and anxious sounds like adrenal issues. Thyroid and adrenals work hand in glove, and when one is off, the other struggles. You've been functionally hypothyroid for awhile, based on your TSH results. This puts a strain on your adrenals. Then when you add back the Iodine and co-supplements, thyroid wants to respond, but adrenals struggle to do their part. It can be hard to sort through what's happening.
I encourage you to speak with an adrenals forum. They should combine adrenals with thyroid help. I have a recommendation, but you may know of another.
Given your mother's heart failure -- which can be made worse by low thyroid and low CoQ10 -- I think it's prudent for you to push past your current state and get your symptoms sorted out. Iodine can help both adrenals and thyroid, but I'm afraid you'll stay stuck if you don't learn what else is affecting you and what to do about it.
Some people assert that if you start supplementing with Iodine, two different effects may result, depending on what dose you start at:
Effect: Up-regulation of thyroid synthesis, especially for those who are Iodine deficient (many people are Iodine deficient, so that makes sense). However, if your adrenal function is down, the cells cannot handle the increased levels of stimulation (via thyroid hormone) without a correspondingly elevated level of cortisol.
It is known that thyroid hormone and cortisol work together. Hence, in the situation of adrenal insufficiency (possibly Mercury-induced in the first place, for some) there is the potential for an adrenal failure-induced “Crash” (= feeling dreadful +/- palpitations =”Thyroid toxicity”). So in these two situations… (a] adequate, vs b] inadequate adrenal function…taking Iodine may make you feel better or worse
Hi there high on water, after some advice as you seem to have been through this already. I stopped taking Iodine last week due to my adrenal crash but have continued with all the co supplements. I am feeling almost back to normal now but still a bit shakey and sweaty at times, hardly any palpitations now, just a slightly higher pulse. I have found a naturopathic doctor locally who will see me and test for hashimotos but he can't see me until end of march. Should I stay off Iodine till then or just continue with a low dose? I just don't want another crash. I feel warmer so there must still be some in there, and my throat is slightly sore and still pulsing but there is no obvious swelling, thanks.
For the same reasons as the article cited above mentioned, taking a low dose of Iodine can cause more problems than it fixes. If you prefer not to take at least 100 mg on your own, then wait to take any Iodine until you see the naturopath. Continue with the support supplements, as they will lay the foundation for a good response whenever you take iodine.
Many thanks, I think I would prefer to do that as I need support for this. What about taking a kelp tablet with just the RDA (iodine) in it, I read kelp is good for the adrenals - it is the one I used to take before I started on Iodine and it never gave me an issue.