and what did i conclude was the problem with my kidneys? mercury from my dirty dozen Amalgam fillings, thats what. my gut and kidney problems started with my first dentist fillings, etc, at age 10 or so.
my kidneys have always been marginal. i have had UT and kidney infestions since a teen. about ten years ago i did a course of the barefoot herbalists kidney cleanse formula and it cleared up a raging case of protenuria and it has never returned.
i have also been taking KI by the gram for years. my kidneys have never been better. i can take lots of KCl as well with no problem.
let me tell you something. people lie. they lie the most when their living depends on it. drs lie the most because they are wrong the most and have the most to lose. stay away.
i say that because ALL of the negative crap about iodine comes from them. its widespread use would destroy their living and they know it. in more ignorant times they used KI in doses up to 10 grams at once! to cure all sorts of maladies. those days are gone because KI cant be patented. and yet, it worked so well for so long that drs got their reputations and respect back using it. now they hide behind a false facade of science and reason but are actually greedy sadists with one ultimate goal - more disease resulting in early death. hear me now and believe me later.
they know exactly what they are doing. i got out of the hospital after a heart attack and bypass and they told me to avoid salt - both sodium and potassium chloride. instead there are five medications they want me eating. but while in the hospital they played with my halogens like an angel on a harp. i had an IV the whole time giving me sodium and glucose (big bad salt and sugar directly into my veins) and then come around and check my blood and decide i need KCl and give me a big fat shot of that in my veins.
now as a layman i was horrified at the intravenous injection of potassium chloride when i knew that was the chemical used as the coup de grace in lethal injection. i said as much and the staffer told me that was a much bigger shot to make it lethal.
they had two shots for KCl. one was to balance my K/Na ratio. the other was called a water shot. they just shot me up with potassium chloride and my kidneys would dump about two liters in less than thirty minutes.
do you hear what i am telling you? these monsters know you are potassium deficient. they tell you to eat a low salt diet in order to hide this fact. they want to be the only ones to administer it, though. when youre sick. so you can think they made you well. but you are just deficient in salt. nothing more and nothing less than fraud on the patient/consumer of the expensive thin air of insurance. scammed to the max and cured with cheap salt and charged thousands and thousands of dollars.
Licensed physicians are mostly like politicians, their instructions are trickle-down from the higher-ups, the medical "authorities" who set policy, control what goes into the textbooks, etc. Its the same with clergy, police, lawyers or any other profession. That is just how humans' systems are structured.
Most people just want to live their lives and don't pay attention to any of this, until they suffer a medical incident, then they scramble for knowledge but by then it is usually too late, because these matters are not simple, and there is plenty of disinformation out there.
You might recall 2-3 years ago on V and G forum, I tried getting people wised up on the potassium thing, but it gained no traction. Such a simple concept, yet no interest.
The proper route for potassium to enter the body is the mouth, not the veins, that's why it made you piss so much.
12 ounces of orange juice contains about 500 mg. of potassium. Yet, there is some regulation that no supplement sold at your supplement stores can contain more than 99mg of potassium. Supposedly out of safety concerns. Yet, orange juice isn't banned and little kids drink it all the time. So, there's a good piece of circumstantial evidence that there is a war on health, the potassium battle is one of many. Nobody notices. They're too busy on things they deem more important, like shopping, sports, getting drunk, etc. When they have a health event, it is then and only then that you get to watch them scramble for knowledge.
Telling people to "avoid salt", cuts out a main source of iodine, which is iodized salt. And that advice gets listened to by, mostly elderly people who are already deficient. And instead, they get prescribed pharma meds. Its sooo totally - Darwin in Action.
The renal function can be impaired because of bromine load to begin with, so watch for detox symptoms. Kidney pain on the iodine, Fx, muscles that complain hard.
kidneys love protien and peace of mind, do try to avoid negative folk/violence.
There was a post from a nutritionalist about the nutritional needs of the kidneys- among what I can remember, it's Vitamin C, B1, silica, calcium, potassium, salt (magnesium can be included in here), and an imbalance in one of the nutrients can trigger pain and poor filtering. His article explained his experience with patients and balancing out the nutrients, that often (I believe it was the right kidney) pain on the right side is associated with the filtering of protiens associated with meat, and the left side was other food matter (with a reversal of sides depending upon which hand is dominant on the patient).
If I track down that site I'll try to link to it. If anyone else finds it, please add a reply!
Viral load can be a hit on the kidneys too, so ALA may be of interest to intensify the effect of your vitamin C, it helps get the liver to dump bad halides.
Uhm.. all the opinions expressed about docs here-
The educational model for accepted doctors really sucks (way outdated and skewed 'twards PharmaCon).
Still, you do met doctors who read outside the lines. Thank God for the good ones.
I had been taking Iodoral and Iosol Iodine without any problems but as Lugols is cheaper I have been taking it in the same dosage as the other two and I have an icky tummy kinda like heartburn now. Is Lugols more harsh on the stomach or does it affect stomach acid as I often have the problem of low acid which I fix by taking a HCL supplement. Or do you think I just have low stomach acid and it's nothing to do with lugols? I would appreciate any answers from all the experts here. Thanks
I was not able to hold it very long. First sensation was I could feel Iodine as if I had taken it orally, but that was not too strong. The dose was 1 teaspoon 15% Lugol's in a liter of distilled water, but I only got maybe half a liter in if that.
Then the bloating got worse and felt like my lymph was toxic in my face, similar reaction to the coffee enema (but no bile or stones came out in last coffee enema)
I suppose I need to repeat it a bunch more times, but I was hoping for something really miraculous to happen like it would kill my suspected protozoans or whatever is tormenting my colon.
No negative reactions whatsoever, so I think people could safely do these.
i think it would be more effective to use less Iodine and hold it in longer(and get more in). expanding the colon lets the Iodine get to all the folds and nooks and crannies where substances and critters can hide.
but not WAY too much ***** You got to be kidding (!) Heavy metals dumping is a scary thing and if one wants to experiment I strongly recommend to start at lower dose because Iodine will chelate more than one can handle and YES, I cannot stretch it enough: hell can break loose all of a sudden. Don't ask me how I know! They better have solid background in ways of detoxing. I would hate to hear from people getting hit so badly when they are trying to HELP their health condition. Everyone carries a different load and, BETTER BE SAFE THAN SORRY is my opinion.
Also Lugols 15% is more potent than what you write... 1 ml = 125 mg Big Mistake here !! Please correct your math.
I've been a lurker for so long and reading from the archives still being my favorite way of learning, I'll do the maths here.
1 drop of Lugol's 5% = 12.5 mg
Any dropper goes from 20 to 35 drops for each ml
Assuming this time it is a 20 drops X 12.5 = 250 mg/ml
So 5ml would give 1,250mg
This person . said it was 15% Lugols and if it was really (whether he/she bought it or made it, I go with what is said here) it would make for 3,750mg
Fortunately, this person spilled it over or could not handle it...
With proper information, people make their own choices and assume their responsability in doing so. Thank you Trapper for helping people and showing them to empower themselves in doing so. However, a chain is never stronger than its weaker link. To everyone's Health!
each ml of Lugols contains 100ml of KI and 50ml of pure elemental iodine.
this is 5% lugols. the 5% is ONLY about the elemental content.
some vendors take the ten percent KI and the 5% I2 and call it 15% (makes it seem like youre getting more). a true 15% Lugols would have 300mg KI and 150mg of elemental per ml.
then comes the fun part. when measuring iodide, only 3/4 of that substance is actually iodine. the rest is potassium. lugols is actually 6.25mg per drop (give or take). in that drop there is 2.5mg of elemental and 5mg of Iodide salt. but when Lugol strength is talked about, the amount of Iodine delivered is figured on the Iodine content only. 5mg of KI X .75 (the amount of actual iodine in the molecule) gives you 3.75mg of iodine in the KI. 2.5 +3.75 = 6.25mg total iodine in a drop of 5% lugols.
12.5mg is the dosage of the iodoral pill. its like two drops of lugols. its why the little pill is scored to break in half, so a single drop of lugols in pill form can be administered. and like lugols, it doesnt count the potassium, just the total iodine content.
its always a risk putting something up your bum. one time a guy on curezone was gonna do an enema using H2O2. he made his calculations and did the enema and ended up in the emergency room bleeding out his ass (more scared than hurt, but still). he had done his calculations based on 3% H2O2, not the 35% food grade peroxide he used. 10 times more oxygen is usually not ten times better, unless youre making fire.
One vertical drop of Lugols 5% = 6.25mg
It is the horizontal drop that is 12.5mg
Note: Vertical drops are specified, horizontal drops deliver 2 x more mg
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i got 21 drops per ml using the dropper perfectly vertical using non-magnetized (that will make a huge difference in these numbers) Lugols 5%. 125mg divided by 21 drops is 5.95mg per drop. 20 drops would have been exactly 6.25mg per drop.
as for horizontal, i NEVER understood that.
i held the dropper so horizontal the Iodine was running back to the bulb. it took 12 of those drops to make a milliliter. thats 10.42mg per drop, and they were as big as i could make them.
what i tell people is get a small syringe like the 3ml oral syringes i give to people on request with any order of Iodine and hold the dropper the way you will consistently and count how many drops to fill that cylinder one ml and divide the number of drops into 125mg.
lolol by the time people get done playing with that and figuring that out its time for the old "take it by the dropper full" technique and thats all you really need.
I'm coming over from the yahoo Iodine group and just saw Unyquity's post a few days ago about using coffee enemas to help get over the detox symptoms.
I've just recently started experimenting also using coffee enemas 1-2 times a day after upping my Iodine from 50 to 100mgs. I really think this is helping a lot.
I'd love to hear some other thoughts/experiences on this to keep the stuff moving through the liver.
CE's have and continue to relieve a LOT of the 'brain fog' type symptoms, as well as relieving tenderness in the area (which I feel is caused by an overburden on the liver).
The other aspect of the 'toxins released by the iodine', is iodine's ability to restore programed cell death (apoptosis). In cancer cells (and we've assumed cells that are starting to morph/change into abnormal cells "cancer), the cells lose their pre-programmed 'time to die'...hence cancer cells/tumors continue to grow despite the fact that it is well-past their natural 'death date'.
This being the case, not only do we have mega amounts of toxins being released by the iodine, but we also have an abundance of 'normal' cells dying AND cells that have mutated, now starting to 'remember' that they should have been dead already...and this creates yet another burden on the body (especially the liver & kidneys).
One of the main reasons for coffee enemas in Gerson's therapy is because the toxins released by dead/dying cancer cells are brutal. And of course, someone trying to HEAL from cancer doesn't need their liver to be burdened with the extra toxins.
I am SURE my body will continue to get relief from detox symptoms/damage by utilizing coffee enemas. And when it's all said and done (and I'm finally Iodine sufficient), my liver is going to be the picture of perfect health because of them :) ...rather than a clogged up mess that requires even MORE protocols to heal :)
'Glad you found some relief from my post - that makes my heart smile, BIG!
Would you mind telling me how much Iodine you're on?
I'm wondering if the detox starts when doses are high enough that the body is no longer pulling it in for other reasons. I just upped mine from 50 to 100mgs/day. I've not had brain fog before but on 100 am getting it.
The Coffee-Enema seem to be what prevents my gut from getting paralyzed when on iodine. Total constipation...more like gut paralysis...was my reason for not being able to go higher with iodine. Now I think the mercury pulled out via the colon was shutting down serotonin production in the colon. As long as I keep flushing the colon with enemas and coffee to keep bile going food is moving through.
Interesting about cell death...I actually hadn't thought of that when I started doing the CEs. Makes a lot of sense. Really one more reason to keep things moving well.
Right now I'm at 50 mgs for 3 days, and 50 mg off for three days...but I'm going back to 100mg (3 days on/off) as soon as I get some tamarind (to help excrete the fluoride, which I feel is at the core of my detox symptoms right now). The salt takes care of the majority of the known bromine detox for me.
I have dosed (since 2/20) anywhere from 0 drops to 16 drops (96 mg) of Lugol's.
Your theory about the mercury makes mighty good sense to me :) And bile (as you may/may not know) is a major trigger for peristalsis (the squeezing action of the intestines). So keeping a good bile flow (don't forget to ingest plenty of oil), is a great way to keep the colon active.
As far as the 'halogen brain fog' it also makes sense that upping the dose starts a detox where there previously was none (or little).
Since equal amount of iodine/'other halogen' results in the other halogen winning (due to atomic weight), it just makes sense that some of us need to up our dose if we're to dislodge the major stores.
'Sounds to me like you're doing great things (and thinking QUITE clearly :) 'Keep up the good work!
coffee enema's have been my saving grace, with overall detoxing, health and well being. i just started them about 5 days ago and i do them every evening after work. my liver was in desperate need of some cleansing and "cross my fingers" i am seeing HUGE results in more ways than one. i will post my progress soon...i don't want to jinx anything.
but as for the Iodine detox, i definitely noticed a direct correlation in relief of symptoms after doing a coffee enema. they are completely safe and i HIGHLY recommend them to everyone out there, especially throughout the Iodine treatment. they are well worth the results, and after you do one or two they become a breeze! i have it down to a Science already and i have only been doing them a little less than a week! i may even up them to twice daily as time permits.
Adding my two cents on the halogen detox rhythm too
Been using turpentine (pine oil origin, not crude oil turp) and the bromide detox symptoms have shown up on it too- especially when combined with iodine. The salt's been even more vital, but even coffee orally stopped an intense bout of dihorrea after the morning's dose of turp (it's a controlled substance, best with titration).
The interaction between turp (pine essential oil) and Iodine has been interesting to watch. It is a nutrient-rich fluid with sulfur nanoparticles (a-turpenes and b-turpenes) that are highly antiparasitic. the sulfur compounds can easily act as a cell-membrane modulator though- aka, helping nutrients get into and trash out of the cell wall more easily.
That's.. one of the reasons I haven't left off my SSKI this season. It's a powerful detoxer, and I've needed it to keep from dumbering right down while the parasite cleanse kicks up bromide.
It's interesting, but flourides don't seem to be as big a problem when there's boron, Iodine and chlorides (from salt) in the game. I wish it were easier to percieve in the thick of detoxing that it's bromide kicking my butt when brainfog and emotional upset and hyperactivity kick in, but hindsight is always 50/50, they say..
Future readers, Trapper's got a good salt-loading protocol floating around here somewhere. It's a mix of vitamin C, salt, sodium bicarbonate (baking soda), and potassium bicarbonate (leavening, also in the baked goods section, generally used to make cookies crispier).
Good stuff to carry around pre-mixed in a pot (glass jar)to use while at work and around town.
Tamarind, tamarind.. haven't tried it yet!
Coffee.. It seems to be just the right blend of minerals and electrolytes to keep things on an even keel. Good to work in the army, the boys here always make it double-strength. :D
Pioneering research by Dr. David Derry, one of my heroes, on the use of Lugol's solution to regenerate scar tissue. I actually went to the thyroidscience website to look for this stuff, their links are broken but the links posted here on CZ are still good. I felt that it was important to go ahead and upload to CZ as info has a way of disappearing on the web. If you go through the archives, you'll find many broken links. So, cut and paste, people! (just provide link to original info, plz). And if you find any info to be really important, to you, store on your own computer...
uploaded these to the "I" folder on CZ... They can be found here:
this is so true. good info should be labeled properly and copied completely. youre not stealing it, youre archiving it. stuff is disappearing on purpose at faster than ever rates. search engines have built in code written to keep certain info from showing up on the first 10 or 20 pages of a search. bookmark, highlight, save, copy, upload - whatever you got to do.
curezone is the perfect library for health stuff. political things are disappearing in hours now. its only a matter of time till each alphabet agency has its own department of web cleaning, the fda sooner than later. you know the pharms are already doing it.
Also, I agree - I went through a car windshield when I was 18 (don't ask).
Pretty much a mess but I was lucky they called a plastic surgeon to sew my face back together. We're talking lacerations down to the bone and holes into my mouth, not to gross anyone out.
Side note - the day I got out of the hospital, I bought bottles of vitamin E and put the oil on my wounds 3X/day, plus swallowed a good amount.
Went back to the surgeon who remarked how well I was healing so I told him about my regimen. He grunted, 'Couldn't have been the E, you're just a good healer'. Sure, old man.
When the scars completely healed, they weren't bad, just noticeable enough to intrigue guys. :-)
Anyway, I've noticed that putting Lugols on my face has made a definite difference in the scars.
My scars aren't 50-years-old like the example in the link but they're no spring chickens!
In all of the pages I understand him to say he covered with plastic and not with a bandage. Did he soak a gauze and cover with plastic and then tape it on the body?
So I am sitting here with a bandage soaked in Iodine on my other cyst. Burns like you know what. I can barely tolerate it.
I am doing a test right now. I have opened up my largest, newest fire ant bite. The size of a pencil eraser. I have applied 3 paintings of straight full strength Lugol's and only applied plastic and sealed with medical tape. There is no burnig at the sight.
I am in pain with this bandage over the cyst. There is clearly a difference for me.
So I am thinking that bandage material reacts with the iodine.
I am not joking or making this up either! Help me understand this please.
so I did the test yesterday.
The spot painted with Iodine and covered with a bandage and the spot painted and covered with only plastic.
The skin under bandaid looks burnt while the other just looks stained. The plastic and Iodine never reacted to make the skin burn. The bandaid was painful pretty much the whole time.
Trapper Please try this test on moles. It burns when I put it on a mole with a bandaid. (You probably don't have any moles by now!)
Wombat, is it me, or does the hair movement part kind of sound like Dr. Derry is a little off his rocker here?
Hair Study Methods and Hair Movement.
Wrist field hairs were numbered. Hair #1 is flat,
making direction changes easier. (Figures 8-12.) All
hairs are capable of moving on their own in short
rapid jerks. Wrist movement aids hair movement
sometimes. Destination changes occur as many as 6
times per day and more at night. Only once did the
author see hair #1 move. Staring at the hairs for an
hour was useless and mind-numbing.
Figure 9. A photograph of hair #1 down the center with
some regenate material on it. This is about b its actual
size. The two coordinating centers are easily seen and
present in a multitude of different forms all the way through
regeneration. They are 5mm apart and there is a firm
palpable subcutaneous ridge between the two centers not
visible in this picture.
Hairs also went to new destinations by rising up
above skin vertically and then coming down at their
destinations an hour or two later. These destinations
appear to be exact, as the hairs return to the same
spots numerous times. All these movements may be
controlled by iodine, but arrector pili muscles near
hair follicles also cause moving.[14, p.355]
Source of Snow-Like Regenate Material.
In the first year it took many photographs to arrive at
the conclusion that white regenate material forms in
follicles and then transports up the hair. The mechanism
of regenate material movement on hair is unknown.
Most times white material is flat on the hair.
The white material on hairs is discontinuous, raising
the possibility of coding by another signaling system.
Figure 10. Photograph of hair #1 and the two wrist coordinating
centers. Hair #1 is delivering regenate material to
the coordination center on the ulnar side of the wrist. Hair
#1 is shortened even further in this picture. Regenate material
can be seen on hair #1 and around the other coordinating
center. Discontinuous regenate material shows on
the hair curving over the top coordinating center in an almost
code-like manner. The thinness of hair #1 near the
follicle is related to this hair’s flatness. Depending upon
how the hair is photographed along its length, it can go
back and forth between thick and thin.
Hair Self-Amputation Multiple Methods.
While watching hair #1, a kink formed about ¼ of
the way up the hair from the follicle to the point the
kink touched skin. (Figure 8.) Within a few hours
hair #1 self-amputated at that point. The cut-off hair
end sank into regenerating tissues. The proximal
short hair end continued as if nothing had happened,
sending regenate material to nearby tissues. About a
week later hair #1 self-amputated again near the follicle
leaving only a short stub. (Figure 12.)
"The hair follicle is also attracting interest as a useful model system for studying a range of biological processes, including tissue development, epithelial cell differentiation, apoptosis (programmed cell death), and tumor formation. The immunology of the hair follicle, its relationship with the 'skin immune system' and its role in hair diseases remain biologically intriguing and clinically important. Understanding how hair loss might be prevented by inhibiting abnormal immune cell responses could lead to treatments not just for hair loss but also other important autoimmune diseases as well.
It is the research into the mechanism of androgen action in hair follicles and the pathogenesis of autoimmune disease of hair follicles that has given several observations that suggest that the immune system could be involved with hair growth and cycling.
Hair follicles provide numerous ports of entry into the body for micro-organisms.
The outward movement of the new hair shaft and displacement of the old club hair could be an avenue by which microorganisms can enter the more proximal hair follicle.
Hair growth is affected by substances with immunomodulatory characteristics, for example, cytokines, hormones, neuro-peptides, and some drugs.
Hair follicle regression during the catagen stage is associated with dramatic alterations in the peri-follicular populations of both macrophages and mast cells.
There is evidence that some autoimmune diseases damage the hair follicle.
On the other hand, there is a lack of MHC class I expression and Langerhans' cells and T cells in the proximal anagen hair bulb, suggesting this may be an immune privileged site. Gaining a better understanding of the immune privilege of the hair follicle may provide insights into the regulation and pathogenesis of immune-mediated diseases of the skin.
The hair follicle acts as a sensory organ and immunologic watchdog for the skin. Its complex immunologic profile of Langerhans cells, mast cells, lymphocytes and macrophages in the connective tissue, carry out surveillance for the immune system. Hairs detect mechanical stimuli above the surface of the skin, and the slightest bend in a hair activates neuroreceptors in the follicle, relaying important sensory information to the nervous system. The role of the Langerhans' cells at the opening of the follicle is to provide the immune system with enough information to prevent pathogens from invading the body through the skin. Langerhans' cells are present in large numbers in the infundibulum, but there are very few below the level of the sebaceous gland and almost none in the hair bulb. However, an important observation has been documented that they appear in the hair bulb during catagen, graying and in alopecia areata. The localization of Langerhan’s cells in the upper hair follicle suggests that they operate there as the key components of the ‘sentinel receptor pathway.’"
What about using Lugol'sIodine for subcutaneous scar tissue? Will it be absorbed and go deeper? I have scar tissue around the tendons in the palm of my hand due to three fingers that I broke that required surgery to place pins that were removed after three weeks. I have a history of growing LOTS of subcutaneous scar tissue while the surface scars heal beautifully. The scar tissue around the tendons in my hand are preventing me from bending my fingers - I can't make a fist. I can passively bend them, but actively is taking a very long time with lots and lots of hand therapy. It's like there is concrete in my finger, but it's the tendons not being able to glide properly b/c of the scar tissue causing the problem. I ingest 5 drops of Lugol's per day, and have been for several years. I have also been taking avocado oil supplements for almost 2 months since they are supposed to dissolve internal and external scar tissue. I have noticed very gradual increases in movement, miniscule in the pinky.
Please can someone who is very knowledgable on Iodine and cancer reply and give me some advice? I would very much appreciate it.
I have metastasised melanoma. I have refused ALL conventional treatment - so have had no lymph node dissection or any drugs. It has spread to my lymph nodes and I am getting more tiny raised nodes appearing all the time.
I was diagnosed 8 months ago and since then have been trying to treat myself holistically using carrot juice, coffee enemas, olive leaf, Father Zago Aloe, Curcumin and Green Tea extract, Cottage Cheese and Fkax Oil along with fresh ground flax seeds... and other things..... and cutting carbs and all Sugar but have very recently added in Lugol's 5%. I am taking 100 mg in split doses and also taking 400 mcg Selenium 600 mg Magnesium orally, plus using transdermal Magnesium chloride and taking at least 3g Vitamin C throughout the day.
I have had more lymph nodes enlarge since starting the Lugol's. I feel time is running out for me, fast.
I have had some effects from taking the Lugol's - my boobs hurts and then stop, then start again, my urine has smelt of chlorine (ammonia?) and last night I felt as though I was becoming really ill with aches and a flushed face. This only lasted a few hours and I felt really good this morning.
Is this detox? How do I know I'm absorbing the iodine?
Does anyone have any advice for me - I don't want to die. I'm 44. I just found the love of my life this year and married him. I waited so long to find him.
How long does Iodine take toward on cancer?
Has anyone with Melanoma that has spread to lymph nodes had success with iodine incorporated into a protocol of other cancer fighting/immune boosting protocol?
I don't have the money to add in more things to what I'm already doing - I know there are hundreds of cancer fighting things out there - but I can't keep adding stuff in the hope it might help. Iodine seems logical - my mother died of Breast Cancer and the more I read about iodine, it seems that her myriad of health problems she suffered before getting cancer (all of which baffled many doctors) may have been iodine deficiency.
I am looking for hope here and a realistic idea, if possible, of how long it might take to work and how high a dose I need to be taking.
Please, please, someone help me.
Thank you so much for your response and the info. I have started reading and following the inks - it will take me a while - but it feels good to have so much info in one place. Thank you!
I have decided to increase my dose of Lugols again and have now taken 150mg with no ill effect. Somebody else told me I wasn't getting ill effects/detox because i most likely wasn't absorbing the iodine. I don't know, and this scares me. I have no time to mess around now.
I am trying to take heart from the fact that I have had, on and off, various signs that the Iodine is affecting my body, so I MUST be absorbing it.
I have nothing to lose anyway, so will be trying to increase the dose to 200 or 300 mg along with all the companion nutrients of course and keeping up the coffee enemas and juices etc.
I do wonder if the enemas are what's helping me not have bad detox - I had been doing them for months before starting the Iodine and know for a fact that my liver is far less congested now than it was before. I couldn't jump for longer than 5 minutes on my rebounder before the pain in my liver was excruciating. Now I can do a full 15 minutes with no pain.
I am researching the Colloidal Silver some more - thank you for the heads up on that one - it is something I had forgotten about.
wishing you the best of everything - thank you again for your kind response.
I agree with your thinking that your liver is supported and feeling better, and this makes detox at the lower level of Iodine less likely. When our cells need iodine, it would be almost impossible for us not to absorb it. Vitamins B2, B3, and C will ensure your symporters are in good working order. These sodium Iodide symporters (NIS) are the way Iodide makes its way into the cell. As your dose of Iodine increases, you will need more symporters, but the companion nutrients will ensure you have them. Your absorption should be all it can be.
Because your skin is the organ you most wish to target at this point, I suggest that further increases be in the form of SSKI -- Trapper's to be specific. Iodide is the form that skin most wants to have. Perhaps 100 mg Lugol's and the rest SSKI .
I can add that I take 2 droppers full of SSKI (2 squeezes) during the winter months for my chronic lung problems. This is probably close to 800mg a day.
Prior to WWII, doctors prescribed up to 1.8 grams of SSKI for chronic lung problems. Trapper has also taken mega doses of his SSKI. Many thanks to Trapper for his high quality of SSKI. He got me started on it years ago.... a miracle for my lungs, 2nd only to Colloidal Silver mist which I discovered last year. Surprisingly, Trapper is also an expert on Colloidal Silver and used to be a major contributor to the colloidal silver forum!
So bottom line, don't be fearful of overdosing on SSKI. Our body takes what it needs and the rest goes out in urine.
One more thing: The "Father of Colloidal Silver ," Steve Barwick, has recently produced a new book: " Colloidal Silver and Cancer – A Surprising Look (128-pages soft cover book)"
"But here's what the FDA and other medical authorities won't tell you: There have now been dozens of laboratory test tube studies and animal studies documenting the astonishing ability of silver to kill cancer cells and shrink cancer tumors. Not just one or two studies, mind you. But dozens. And while these studies are not "human" studies, they nevertheless lend an impressive degree of credence to all of the anecdotal reports from people around the world who claim their cancers were miraculously cured after they started using colloidal silver.
As the authors of one recent clinical study confirmed, "Many attempts have been made to use silver as an anti-cancer agent and they have all turned up positive." That's why, in this brand new book, you'll be given a surprising look at the phenomenal anti-cancer properties of colloidal silver. For example, you'll learn:
Why British researchers claim silver kills some cancer tumors better than chemotherapy, and with fewer side effects...why silver appears to kill cancer cells without harm to normal human cells...13 different forms of cancer thought to be caused by infectious microbes or parasites (and the evidence for silver's ability to eradicate them)...how Dr. Robert O. Becker, M.D. used electrically generated silver to revert cancer cells back to normal cells in the 1970's...and much more.
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Bottom line, there is much more to colloidal silver and cancer that I was even aware of, so his new book on this subject is divinely appropriate for you.
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He took 2 oz of colloidal silver daily AND applied it to the skin with tissue paper. Be aware that you can get colloidal silver Gel from Amazon.Com that will do a much better job when applied to the skin. A friend at church recently cured his nose cancer using colloidal silver gel.
If you are anything like me you are ready to rip this butterfly shaped organ out of your neck and be done with it. Needless to say my frustration level with my thyroid is through the roof and I’m looking for some guidance from anyone familiar with my situation.
My problem: Thyroid therapies make me gain weight. (please read entire post )
Let me start by saying I have been studying natural health for 15 years. I’ve studied thyroid quite thoroughly so the answers I’m looking for are not basic, standard answers. I’m really curious if other people have experienced what I’m experiencing.
I started Iodine therapy a week ago and have gained 10 lbs. Let me also say that taking synthetic T4 or anything nutritional thyroid supplements also makes me gain weight EXTREMELY rapidly. 15 lbs in two weeks on T4. And each time I stop one of these therapies my weight reduces again almost as rapidly back to normal. This has nothing to do with what I’m eating, my exercise level or anything like that. It is specifically the thyroid treatments that are doing it. I just recently came across the concept of Iodine therapy and became very excited. I don’t know how I’ve missed it before. I’ve known about it in small doses of course but nothing like on this topic. I raised my dose of Iosol to about 10-20 drops per day. This is equivalent to about 18-36 mg per day. I have also added selenium and a multi-mineral supplement in addition to my multi-vitamins.
So my question is why does messing with my thyroid do the opposite of what it should? Why do these therapies make me gain weight instantaneously when my weight is very stable otherwise? I understand there has to be a scientific explanation as to what is happening but I don’t have a clue where to find it. Please. If anyone has come across information about this on this site or knows anything about it, I would be forever grateful.
^The link is a post of Newport's - truly, check out the FAQ's page by linking the "i" word in this phrase: Iodine supplementation forum. Wish I had more time, I'd search because you asked - but my time is more limited these days. Newport posted an excellent one about what chelates what!
Water is always a good "flushing" agent for the body, but the body also needs salt, potassium, selenimethionine, vitamin C, etc)...
Having gone through something similar, I can tell you that fluid retention is usually due to lymph congestion/stagnation. Corrections include using things like chi machines, tens units, ultraviolet light wands to move lymph or sauna to make you sweat.
Thyroid patients lose the ability to sweat effectively. My experience was that I would just get really overheated and swell up like a boil-in-bag... Hence the added weight gain. So, if your body is starting to warm up (from the Iodine) but has no way to eliminate the heat/water, you're going to retain it.
Learning to sweat again is hard work. You have to raise your body temperature -- by several degrees. And you have to do it safely. I don't know what your personal health stats are (BP, BMI, etc.) so PLEASE just use this information as a place to start...
You can look on line for plans to build your own Far Infra-Red Sauna.
You can purchase parts from Home Depot - Home depot sells clip-on task lights for about $15.00 and an Infra Red light bulb (used to heat bathrooms and amphibian environments) is about $8.00). Providing you can carefully array several by clipping them under a dining room table (the old-fashioned kind that has leaves and wooden lips than hand down far enough for clipping, take a bunch of blankets and throw over the top and sides of the table, and then put some towels, blankets on the floor. Crawl into your sauna and stay for as long as you can stand it – not to exceed 30 minutes. You need a thermometer so that you can keep track of how warm it gets in there as well as one to check your own body temperature.
You can buy a kit.
You can buy a ready assembled one – like Solo-Spa. It’s expensive. But – I lost my water weight (and a whole pants size) very quickly. And, it comes with a body-length Far-Infrared-Sauna heating pad that feels heavenly for the muscle aches and pains that often accompany thyroid conditions (e.g. fibromyalgia).
If you are not drinking distilled water enriched with balanced minerals – that is also very important. Each mineral has a specific atomic weight. If they are out of balance- they can’t push the others out – so your sodium gets out of whack. Important to track your minerals. Again - I am not a physican - need to work with your doctor to deal with the mechanics.
I never thought it could be as simple as just water. But I've also never stayed with a therapy long enough once I gained so much weight. I will experiment with salt pushing and a couple other things. My weight is average at 150lbs normally and I begin to feel so bloated when I start these therapies. This would make sense.
So you would suggest basically salt pushing and drinking lots of water? Would an increase in specific minerals affect this also?
I have certainly found that Iodine supplements help with your body's ability to regulate temperature. As I live in Australia I don't have to worry about a sauna, lol, I live in one at the moment. I usually suffered very badly in the summer with water retention, but after Iodine supping I seem to be able to eliminate the water by sweating and I don't overheat as I used to. It has been extremely hot here and it hasn't bothered me much at all this year. I would like to add that my kidneys seem to be working more efficiently to remove water as well. I have increased my water intake rather than decreased it, as this seems to keep things moving along by flushing my system out, without retaining it. Its also not a case of sweating profusely, I don't have big wet patches or sweat dripping off me, I seem to have just slightly damp skin all over, and my skin actually feels cool on hot days. I take this as a sign that my body is working efficiently at cooling me down.
Just one more thing, it did take at least 3 weeks of iodine supping to see this effect.
Yeah, the few really hot days we had I just RELISHED them. My body handles the heat SO NICELY now! Wow factor.
I used to HATE hot weather - now, hoo boy - LOVE it! Of course, having to deal with it for weeks on end, I can't answer to that - but as long as I would have Iodine on hand, well, the body would certainly be able to handle it, as long as you've got plenty of good water to drink!
We've had hot weather for months now and I find that I'm handling it much better with Iodine supps, really have to make sure your salts are good though, some days I sweat and you can see the salt on my clothes. I can't wait until winter to see if my body handles the colder weather better as well :).
lol, I decided last year that I will never exercise again. I really hate it. Now I play golf, swim a bit, my job is very physically demanding, I love gardening and not a bit of 'exercise' in sight. The thought of standing in some smelly gym with lots of other people doing repeats of boring movements, eeeekkkkkk, not for me. The day I decided that I would not force myself to exercise I started to really enjoy my very active life. Have also increased my lean muscle mass by 18% since giving up exercise lol.
Did you start adding the salt? Did that stop the weight gain? I am in same boat but i have been hesitant to start the salt. I got up to 50 mg day of Lugols but my weight was going up but 2-3 lb a week. I gained 15 lb that I had worked so hard to lose.
Salt and water are really critical to success, as is magnesium. I don't think you've gained fat, but you may be retaining water if your kidneys can't process the bromine being pushed out. Minimum would be 1/4 tsp unprocessed salt in 1 quart of filtered water, three of these each day. You might do better with 4-5 quarts of salted water after your kidneys start processing better. Slowly your ability to lose the excess water will grow, though you'll feel uncomfortable for 3-4 days from the increased drinking water.
Sufficient magnesium will keep your bowels moving, which may also release more bromine from your system. I cannot stress enough how much relief I've felt from magnesium.
If you're not using the companion supplements in sufficient quantity while using iodine, you won't process bromine as well as you can. This could keep you stuck, not something we or you wish to see.
There are so many forms of magnesium, it can be personalized to what works best for you. My sister likes magnesium taurate as it smooths her heart rhythm. She likes magnesium glycinate for sleep. I like magnesium malate for smooth energy through the day, but magnesium citrate at bedtime for sleep. Magnesium chloride is found in liquid preparations such as ReMag. ReMag was very efficient for raising my magnesium levels, but I could not tolerate the chloride over time. Magnesium glycinate is too stimulating for me to sleep with. Some people find that magnesium citrate stimulates their bowels too much.
Start with some form of it and let your body speak to you. It's worth the journey :)
Jasmine75, You are not alone. I started a few months ago for breast cysts. Got up to 50mg with no problem EXCEPT for the weight gain. I take a multi like they recommend and I take the vit. B , c and selenium too. I have had to back down to 12 mg. I noticed at 18 mg. i started feeling overall good. I hate to take less but I cant keep gaining weight like this. I wont get on the scale but its noticable and my fat clothes are tight. It gives me an appetite like when I swim. Super hungry. Other than the weight everything else is normal.