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Home Remedy May Help Prevent Surgery in Some Patients with Gallstones
(North American Primary Care Research Group) Results of a study examining the efficacy of a traditional home remedy for inducing gallstone expulsion using lemon juice, olive oil, cascara sagrada and garlic/castile enemas suggested that this protocol has the potential to safely eliminate the need for gallstone surgery in a substantial percentage of patients.
Six patients with symptomatic cholelithiasis proven by ultrasound were included in the study. The subjects completed a three-day treatment protocol and collected Gallstones recovered from the enema. All of the patients passed stones. No side effects were observed, except for mild nausea in one patient. Intermittent ultrasound monitoring was performed for three hours per day each day of the protocol.
A final ultrasound assessed the degree of clearing of cholelithiasis. Five of the patients were asymptomatic for follow-up periods ranging from two to 27 months; mild symptoms returned in one of these patients after three months. The patient who remained symptomatic underwent cholecystectomy about one month after the home-remedy protocol. One of the asymptomatic patients who passed all of her stones underwent cholecystectomy anyway under the advice of her surgeon. The investigators believe that, with modifications, this protocol could safely eliminate the need for surgery in many patients with cholelithiasis.—richard l. garrison, m.d., University of Texas Medical School, Houston.
HI----After having gallbladder problems for over 3 YEARS, I finally found something that has worked for me! I have been doing this for one month now and am down from ALL-DAY ATTACKS that continued for a week, to 1-2 episodes of five-minute back pain! The "distended feeling under my right rib" is gone! It is worth a try, easier than these flushes------with no risk of stones getting stuck in ducts, vomiting excessively, possible visits to ER, drinking foul-tasting stuff, etc. Here is what I did to get rid of my pain!
EVERY NIGHT, castor oil packs using castor oil with a heating pad, usually 2-3 hours at a time...(perfectly safe to use, old remedy, I have been doing this now for a month)
Daily, drink APPLE JUICE AND GRAPE JUICE as well as loads of water. NO fried or fatty foods. No chocolate!
Taurine (an amino acid) 2000 mg daily----mice were made to get Gallstones by chemical induction and then given taurine daily and all the mice's Gallstones disappeared! (Taurine is known as the "savior of the gallbladder!")
Milk thistle--(cleanses and repairs LIVER) ---3 capsules per day
N-acetyl cysteine (amino acid---1200 mg daily
Beet root (500 mg-----6 capsules per day)
Spirulina---six 500 mg capsules per day--(green SUPERFOOD--this will REALLY clean you out!)
Calcium/Magnesium Citrate w/Vit D----3 caps daily (relaxes muscle spasms in the back)
Chamomile capsules----4 per day---an antispasmodic---relaxes back spasms
Hydrangea Root Tincture (liquid)---2 dropperfuls per day (yucky taste!)
Vitamin C----2000 mg daily and Vitamin E-----400 IU daily
At these doses, all 10 of these supplements are safe----the most expensive one is the N-acetly cysteine, (about $15)
All these cost me about $40 month----way less than the $10-15,000 for GB surgery....give it a try if you don't want to try flushes! I am certainly glad I did! Good luck to all!
Evidence and experience indicates that Gallstones are often (but not always) an indication of a problem elsewhere, mostly in the liver.
Flushing may clean the whole biliary system and restore its natural function and the balance of chemical production in the body. Another goal of flushing is to establish the cycle of cholesterol from blood to discharge as this appears to help the metabolism and benefits health.
Fat in some form in the diet exercises the gallbladder maintaining a strong reflex and full evacuation of the stored bile in the gall bladder.
Were you ever sick and did you ever get a stone stuck?
You might be feeling fine but can you let us know after some time what the ultrasound says.
From all I have read, and my own experience, it seems to be impossible to get rid of calcified stones any other way.
In my case even the big stone (1") is still there but because of flushing the inflammation is gone, the thickened wall went back to normal, from 42mm to 3mm.
The stone had blocked the gallbladder neck, what created all the problems, because of flushing it became free floating and the bile flow started up again and the gallbladder healed itself.
I am now stone (soft stones) and symptoms free, can eat anything, but the stone still shows on the ultrasound.
After 3 years I have used every supplement mentioned for breaking up the stones, no change.
The good thing about flushing besides getting rid off stones, my allergies are gone and I was able to get off my anti-depressant medicine.
Hi, thanks for the reply. In my research, even calcified Gallstones CAN be gotten rid of with CONTINUED LONG-TERM intake of taurine and Vitamin C, of course assuming you have the time to do that and are not in repeated acute episodes that could be life-threatening. Do not be foolish with risks to your health, of course! Apparently Gallstones cannot co-existent with constant intake of taurine. Malic acid also can dissolve them. Interesting, did you know that taurine is required to produce bile? Taking taurine improves bile flow and keeps it thin enough to PREVENT stones. Taurine also INCREASES THE PRODUCTION OF CHENODEOXYCHOLIC ACID by 70% percent----chenodeoxycholic acid is a DRUG PRESCRIBED BY DOCTORS FOR GALLSTONES! Why would I take a dangerous drug when taurine can boost the production NATURALLY of the same thing in my body? Taurine has also been with urodeoxycholic acid, the drug that is prescribed for DISSOLVING CHOLESTEROL GALLBLADDER STONES! Vit C BREAKS DOWN cholesterol to bile and also RAISES the NATURAL PRODUCTION of urodeoxycholic acid. Vit C every 1-2 hrs during an acute attack, 1000-2000mg at a time until you reach your tolerance (which is diarrhea), with NAC, can help. NAC can speed BREAKUP of gallstones, proven in lab studies.
As far as my personal ultrasound, I have had 3, as well as one mormal HIDA scan. The gallbladder wall was normal size, no sludge, no stones seen, no dilated ducts, pancreas, liver, spleen and kidneys imaged as normal....three times. Since I have all the symptoms of gallbladder disease, I assusme I either have "sand" or stones too small to be seen or truly have acalculous situation. My last high-definition ulrasound done at a major medical center was two weeks ago.
I will try my supplement protocol and maybe at some point might try a mini daily Liver Flush to see what happens. May the LORD heal all who ask. Know this is a liver forum, so will not post here again!
Oh no, do post here again. Where else are you suppose to post this info. We are to be open to all the help and experience that people have to give. I don't think Tellman meant to discourage you from posting your info. just that most people come here to know how to succussfully flush. Your info. is valid and informative. Thank you for sharing it.
Please keep the group informed about how you get on. You have remind us all that they are different ways to tackle a health problem and that we mustn't be too precious about our own beliefs. Keep in mind that this is liver flushing support forum that also happens to one of the more lively groups on curezone and although we like to be informed and educated it is not at the expense of flushing.
The information below in to help clarrify a few issue raised within these threads.
There are several different types of "gallstone conditions" some of which are cause by a single event such as bacteria in the biliary tree and other by chemical imbalances, liver conditions and other factors.
Black and brown pigment stones which are usually radio-opaque (show up on an x-ray) are in the minority and may even be attached to the viscous inner layer of the gall bladder. These can be extremely difficult to remove by flushing and may be helped by the use of supplements to dissolve them and dilute the thick mucus in which they are suspended. Biliary sludge being dense but not as dense as pigment stones will show up clearly on a ultrasound. Common "green Cholesterol stones" which have a very similar density to bile often do show up in an ultrasound examination.
Even so some stones will not even dissolve but you won't know until you try which can take quite a long time even years. Half the people that have pigment Gallstones also have an underlying liver condition and/or a reduced gallbladder function.
If you eat a "normal meal", for example, having a mix of protein (15%), carbohydrate (60%) and fat (25%) a fully functioning gallbladder will usually empty by about 75%. Occasionally it may be beneficial to eat more "good" fat to encourage a greater emptying.
you mentioned taking many different stone breakers, and since I don't want to waste my money, I would really appreciate it if you would list them. There's no doubt there are many remedies out there that are expensive and just don't work!
Thanks in advance,
You are ABSOLETLY CORRECT!!! You MUST consume "good fats" every day or get the gallbladder gets sluggish and stagnated and does not work correctly------just don't eat TRANS-FATS---french fries, chips, cheezes, processed "garbage" foods, fast foods-----eat olive oils and the Mediterranean diet-style-----in fact, LOF-FAT DIETS AND RAPID WEIGHT LOSS ARE A CAUSE OF GALLSTONES! Eat healthy!
I am glad you are feeling better. I would suggest though, that you up your Vitamin C intake. When taking NAC, you should be taking 2-3 times that amount of Vit C. So for your 1200mg of NAC, you should be taking at least 2400 mg Vit C. The NAC utilizes the C to make glutathione.
Thank you, will do! Actually some days I take MUCH more than 2000 mg Vit c, as you really cannot take too much Vit C---it is simply excreted in the urine if not needed by the body. Dr Linus Pauling felt that Vit C was THE cure for EVERYTHING, icnluding cancer. Studies have proven that high intake of Vit C AND Vit E can really help PREVENT gallstones.
Can you tell me where you read this information.
We all wish that it was true, but you have to understand a lot of us have heard these stories before and people try it and we don't hear from them anymore.
I have been working on my calcified 1" stone for 3 years after trying malic acid, chanca piedra for months, phosfood, lemon and peppermint oil, stone crusher, eating an apple every day,gold coin grass, coptis and there was another one, that's all I can think of now.
I have done 47 flushes and my flushes are stone free now and all my gallbladder symptoms are gone. I went back for my ultrasound and my 1" stone is still there, no change in size after doing months of different supplements.
Since you only have gallbladder symptoms and no calcified stones, I had also a thickened wall and inflammation, which is gone from flushing, you might be helped by just taking supplements. The problem is that most symptoms also come from the liver, a lot of people that come here after gallbladder surgery still have to do flushes to get the liver clean because their symptoms come back.
So have my best wishes and let us know in a year if you are symptom free without taking supplements.
Dear Hanna-----Every time I post here, you seem to reply with a skeptical answer! Dear friend, there are ALWAYS more than one way to approach any problem in life! The things you mentioned you have tried are NOT the quality supplements I am on-----you must try taurine---the research there IS solid! Gallstones cannot exist in the continued presence of taurine! It may take a long time, but if it works for me and I am not in an acute life-threatening situation, I am content to do what I am doing now. That is not to say that it will work for YOU--but it may work for others here who are not too "far gone" with their stone situation. I never said I expected to be SUPPLEMENT FREE in a year--I fully intend to be taking taurine and my other supplemtns from now on--s I have done for years! AT $10 a bottle for 90 easy-to-swallow capsules, I am perfectly happy to do as I am now----I would rather swallow my supplements than the flush ingedients and know I am going to vomit and feel ill. It is always your choice! To good health....
Forgot something---to Hanna-----Yes, GB symptoms DO come from the liver--therefore, taking MILK THISTLE DAILY WILL CLEANSE AND EVEN REJUVENATE THE DAMAGED LIVER! Milk thistle is also VERY WELL researched and has been used safely for a long time......it is a very potent liver cleanser---start today and maybe Gallstones will never be a problem in the future--cleanse the liver and you cleanse the gallbladder as well.....
See my last post I mentioned them and I can add chinese bitters to that.
Here is a link from Spirit (webmaster and curezone originator) about softeners. http://www.curezone.com/forums/m.asp?f=73&i=462
A lot of people say the supplements helps, they have better flushes, but the trouble with this statement is, that every flush is different, so it could have been a good flush no matter what.
In my case I had to try thing because I have a big calcified stone. Most people that do cleaning for general health just have soft cholesterol stones/gravel/sludge.
The "stones" are susually pea size and green like peas, you can squeeze between your fingers.
In general it is suggested to drink applejuice before, or 4 tbs apple cider vinegar(from healthfood store) in a quart of water the 4 days before. Cranberry juice is ok too, but might be kind of tart.
Read the FAQ at the top of the page, it has a lot of information.
I have never used vit.C in a liver flush. When I came to Curezone over 10 years ago that was not part of the formula. I went from doubling over in pain everytime I ate cheese or ice cream to being pain free. I also lost weight, overcame chronic depression and sailed through menopause.
Now I think back it might have been before CZ. Before I came here I had books from like Adele Davis and Life Extension.
Probably the main thing I was taking was vitamin C. I switched
to buffered C and had no problems anymore.
I remember now in which house I was living and it should be more than 30 years ago.
WEll seems it is worth a try 20569. But that is alot of D--- supplements. You take ALL of them? Maybe I should just try the Taurine.
If I can use this to stabilize my issues. -- And alkalize like Moreless Forum says maybe it will all even out. Seems he feels one does not need to cleanse if you alkalize. Alot of people on this liver cleanse site cleanse on and on. Thus they continue to form stones. So maybe alkalizing would solve that.
I however have never gotten a cleanse done. Does not work.
I must say the liverflushes helped me, I think I almost did a 100 of them over the years, but I still have my stone. For the last several years I have not done anymore
ultrasounds. About 4-5x a year the gallbladder acts up and I keep it under control with drinking a tbs of epsomsalts
Kidney or other stones within the body are formed by perverse or metamorphosed secretions and excretions, brought about by a faulty diet: it really is that simple.
Adhere to a wholefood diet with plenty of fresh fruits, vegetables, legumes, pulses, nuts and wholegrains, with the addition of unadulterated meats if desired, and then eat only when hungry.
Stones are also known to be dissolved via water-only-fasting, if carried through for a sufficient length of time.
but also read the links I gave in my other post. There is a lot of information there.
In regards to the original poster she was here only 2 months and she did post that she felt better after 1 month and then she stopped posting.
Like Telman said in the beginning to improve might take
a long time.
As far as taurine goes I tried that for years If your stones are not calcified some of these supplements might
help, but nothing worked for me.
Hello. I just wanted you to know that this post helped me. I tried many of things you suggested, along with some other things too. I had one ultrasound that showed sludge. A later scan showed nothing. So I would consider that objective proof that I cleared the sludge. It was a long road (two years) with plenty of pain, but I am fine now. So thanks for posting these suggestions. Gigi
I've been on Oxypowder cleanse 3 days so far, been feeling great, until I woke up this morning. I woke up to bad pain in my upper right back/right shoulder blade. Thought it might pass, but it has gotten worse. The pain has now extended downward to mid right back. Pain is still mostly concentrated in upper right back/right shoulder blade. I was wondering if this has to do with my gallbladder. Is it a sign of gallstones?
This is my first cleanse. I'm a little scared, I don't know what to do. I hope I'm not doing more damage than good
I just finished my 2nd dr Clark liver cleanse and had zero stones. I have a background in dr clark's work as I've done her protocols since the 90's. I haven't done a liver cleanse in 6 years. Just finished a parasite cleanse, kidney cleanse and now my 2nd liver cleanse in a month and no stones. The only modification I made was I used ruby red grapefruit both times as I couldn't find pink grapefruit. I need help. I can't figure out what is wrong.
Also does anyone know what she means by using lemon aid?
It's very common when you first start doing Liver Flushes after a long period of time (years) to only get a bit of sand or sludge out on the first few. After several more flushes you should begin to see some stones.
Flush your liver for the benefit of health, and if it helps your health, do it, but don't do it just for the sake of seeing green/tan blobs in your toilet.
Some benefits of Liver Flush you may experience even months after your last flush, as Liver Flush may improve your liver function and your bile flow, and your bile flow may improve your intestinal microbiota ... and your whole health depends on the quality and biodiversity of your intestinal microbiota.
So, stop stressing about the stones, and better think about your microbiota.
Microbiota is also affected by everything you do inbetween your liver flushes, not only by liver flushes.
I have parasites in my pancreas and gall bladder. My natropath has put me on several herbs and tinctures. I have zapped and done flushes. Now we are trying rectified turpentine along with clarkia and lots of oil and butter to keep mt gall bladder flushed. I am very frustrated. It has been about 6 mos. Any suggestions?
Hi, my gall bladder/bile ducts were clogged with parasites and I got them to move out of that area with a tens unit. (Electrotherapy). The tens doesnt kill the worms , it just gets them to move, where they go is a bit scary, if u can push them down to the buttox or legs its was better for me than to be spitting up bile all day.
But so many posters here are under the (carefully fostered) delusion zapping doesn't work, because they get often worse. Parasites die, and their infections find a new host, YOU, and all the toxins the worms had absorbed are now dumped back into your system. Plus some where (I'm pretty sure where) they got the idea that you can 'feel' parasites. You don't. What you feel is the toxicity causing blood vessels and nerves to spasm. And so they focus on fixing a parasite problem that doesn't exist and then wonder why it isn't getting better. *shakes head*
They don't even read Dr Clark's book (or anything else from what I can tell, other than the lame essentially worthless versions here) and hare off willy-nilly, armed with only enough knowledge to hurt themselves instead of dealing with things as a whole body issue comprised of MANY facets.
What I can't figure out is why soooo many folks here keep doing the same thing over and over again and expect different results? AA definition of insanity. Or it's to make real suffers afraid and not doing the things that actually do help, like zap.
Zapping definitely helps, that is how I discovered them. I would probably have diabetes and have no idea why is it were not for the zapper. But im not sure what mode is just right. Im trying diatomaceous earth now, I get so tired of the harsh herbs like . Im thinking i might only be able to keep the numbers down. Do you think a Dr of Natropathy can write a prescription for the drugs you suggested? I am getting desperate.
With the zapper for parasites, the battery is the driving factor, but Dr. Clark recommended 30kHz. So really any mode with a battery operated one.
What exactly IS your indicator that you have parasites still? Do you zap every day? Do the herbs especially wormwood at least once a week? Done a liver flush?
Cuz if it's a pain that starts up after eating sometimes that's like a knife in the gut or elsewhere, and doesn't stop for day and a half sometimes, that's a liver stone caught in a bile duct. Try a couple tablespoons of Epsom Salts in 8 oz of water about 4 hours after you've eaten if you feel that pain starting. It should allow the bile duct to relax enough to pass the stone.
But if you've zapped like that and done the wormwood at least, then your are parasite free and that naturopath is just leading you on. If it's pain, parasites don't hurt that much. If not the liver stones , you probably have an infection, most likely. Or toxins. Have you ever even consider that something else is your problem. If you've zapped every day, you have no parasites.
I know there are those on here who are specifically trying to discredit zapping for the pharmaceutical cartel. Pretending to 'fail', using a zapper. I hope you aren't one of them.
I dont think i need to prove to you that i have them. I have done multiple Liver Flushes and my natropath has so much business and does free clinics that she does not need too keep seeing me. She cured my lyme and sent me on.my way for 8 mos. Cured my pleurisy and didnt need to see me again. She is the only one who gets my situation altho she is baffled as to why i still have them. I love the zapper. Mine is broken and im waiting for replacement paddles. It definitely keeps the numbers down but these are big double bodied worms 2" or so and they can smell the herbs and frankly are immune to them. I just dumped some on them and they just swam into my pancreas. You have no idea what my experience is.
I got rid of diabetes, and one of the hepatitis. So yeah, I think I do. What are your symptoms?? Why are you sure it's parasites?? You haven't answered that, which makes me kinda suspicious.
And if your zapper's broken, of course you have parasites. They hatch out EVERY day, so even if you aren't just reinfecting yourself from your environment, you still have them hatching out! The herbs ONLY work in the digestive tract and for sure wormwood needs to be one of them. It's been killing worms for thousands of years and now, all of a sudden, the worms get immune. I don't think so.
I'm learning turmeric actually may be more of a systemic herb for worm killing, though, so get going on some of that. It's of course going to be slower. Probably wanna take 3 caps everyday for 3 weeks, if I were you. Or until you get new paddles. Can't invent something to make do, really? A wet folded paper towel would carry the current just as well.
And if your naturopath doesn't know the parasites hatch out every day, doesn't speak very highly of their knowledge base.
Hey, take as long as you need to figure out what symptoms you probably should have, ok?
I'll just let folks decide for themselves if they think you're actually having problems, or you're just trying to discredit zappers, and anti-parasite herbs--of which you never even said which ones you thought the worms immune to now.
Hi thanks for recommending ICU, I am doing the fluke protocol but am not convinced it is working. Ive killed a lot of roundworms and some flat flukes but the ones in my pancreas are these weird worm things w caps on their heads. I feel like they are multiplying and boring into my pancreas to get away from the meds. I zapped yestdy bc i was worried its not working. Just finished my first 3 days of pazi, might not be eating enough fat for the other; 40 g is a lot! Any support or recommendations is appreciated!
How can you tell the parasites in your pancreas are different from others? I'm asking because I've been taking a lot of stuff to kill parasites, and when I look back a couple of weeks to when I bought a massager, I remember I noticed a strange pain on my left below my ribs (not under my ribs). It goes away and reappears at times when I'm particularly vigilant with parasite cleansing.
I've just been figuring out now that is where my pancreas is, and that's how I came across this thread.
I've been taking massive amounts of COQ10 and L-cysteine (in the form of NAC) as per Dr. Clark's mop up, and I've been taking Zymactive systemic/proteolytic enzymes, hoping all of these will work systemically, and then the other day started taking B3 niacin with them.
I can still feel a twinge of pain in my pancreas area occasionally (if that is where it's coming from). I am sure the parasites scattered from day one of parasite cleansing because I could feel stuff in different places.
I have not bought a zapper, partly because of cost, partly because I am having trouble deciding which one to get, and partly because some people on here have said their parasites scattered more with zapper use.
Sorry I didnt get back to you sooner. I was having symptoms of diabetes. If i ate Sugar or carbs my adrenals would crash. I was using the zapper under my ribs one night and the next day i had intestinal flukes floating in the toilet. I experimented with some drugs but i think the zapper did them in. I have been doing Hulda Clark s protocol - be sure to get the lightly ozonated oil, i get it from Breath of Life and take 3 Tbs at night on empty stomach. I have killed 3 Tapeworms so far and I think still have 2 sucking on my stomach. I killed a dwarf Tapeworm and lots of infants and other small worms. The lightly ozonated oil is awesome and i take coeq10 (4 of them)and l cysteine (alternate between) whenever my stomach is empty. Just recently started on monolaurin complete by essential medica. I take a tbl when stomach is empty, i rotate between that and the enzymes. Oreganol (2 capsules) after breakfast and dinner has killed the adcaris. Oreganol drops directly on the skin will kill stubborn ones. I just killed a monster intestinal worm 15-20" long and 2" wide filled with poo. I have no idea what it was or if the whole thing is out. If you have lots of parasites you probably have tapeworms. I have had success with these natural products but i am in month 6 and am still not finished. You HAVE to look thru your poo with a glove to see what you are getting rid of. It is a lonely battle bc the medical comm has failed us and the homeopathic comm isnt faring much better when it comes to parasites. I have an energy healer who has helped but she doesnt know anymore than me. Hope this helps.
I just registered in the hopes that someone could help me with my current dilemma!
I did my first Liver Flush 2 days ago (YAY I know finally!) using Andreas Moritz 's protocol. I was also taking amino Taurine capsules for two weeks to further dissolve the stones - I also took gold coin grass and coptis a few months ago for a solid month to break down the stones.
I did a colonic two days before the flush as well as the day of. AFter drinking the oil/grapefruit juice I felt SOOOO much movement in my liver area, sometimes it was painful (bearable though). Nothing happened the next day, I even did a water enema and no stones.I took magnesium citrate instead of epson salts (I'm very weak and was worried the epson salts would be too harsh on my system), so maybe thats why?
Anyway, I had another colonic today and literally hundreds if not thousands of stones came out! The colon therapist said she was certain I still had a lot more stones in my colon that needed to come out and to consider coming in again in a few days.
I'm having lots of pain though, as if a stone is stuck. Its not completely debilitating but the pain comes and goes. My liver area is very tender and I don't know if the pain is from a stuck stone or my liver being sore from the flush or what. My guess is its a stuck stone. If I'm in an already weak state (concussion that won't heal 1.5 years later, slight malnutrition, CFS, serious stomach issues, severe insomnia for years) is it dangerous to do another flush right away or should I wait 2 weeks, 3 weeks? I just went for a short walk and was holding my abdomen the entire time from the pain.
Any advice would be appreciated! Thanks in advanced :)!!!!
There is often pain and tenderness in the liver area after a flush. I have experienced it many times myself. Very common. You may want to try high doses of L-tryptophan and Gaba for the insomnia. It has really helped me.
Thank you! Even if it is a stuck stone though if the pain isn't unbearable I should be okay waiting to flush right?
I was thinking of doing a coffee enema tomorrow to help my liver out and to further clean out my colon as I suspect there's still some stones hanging out in there....too soon for that?? Has anyone done a coffee enema soon after a Liver Flush with any problems?
What I find pretty effective is to take a couple of TBSPs in very warm water of Mag citrate powder or Natual Calm as it's a lot less harsh on the system than epsom. Lie on your right side with a heating pad or something hot under your liver/GB. It will help release any back pressure and pain and also get the stones or blockages moving. You can do it along with the Coffee-Enema if you feel you can handle it. CEs are not as stressful on the body as Liver Flushes which can cause you to feel real bad until all the stored toxins from the liver pass through your system.
Does anyone know if there is a link between lipomas and one having their gallbladder removed? Many in my family have lipomas and my sister has the worst case. She had her gallbladder removed. I've wondered if there is a link between the two? Anyone else out there with lipomas also have their gallbladder removed? thanks..c
I'm looking into this as well. My wife had her Gall Bladder removed about 6 years ago and is now getting Lipoma on her scalp and back. The more we research it, seems the lack of a Gall Bladder is the major culprit, leaving the liver to try and process the fats and enzymes.
If anyone has info they could share, we would be very greatful. The Lipo's are growing and she's going to have them taken out next week. But the real concern is they could grow back. Anyone experiment with herbs? I've read Chicken weed and Bitters is supposed to help. We will begin using it. Anyone else out there getting these after Gall Bladder removal?
YES. Had mine removed and later developed lipomas. Always thought the 2 might be related, but don't know. it is however, medically documented that lipomas are genetic / inherited. Did others in your family have their GBs removed.
I had one lipoma, had it removed. Developed 4 lipomas. Had them removed and now they are all over my body. I believe they should never be removed. They should be addressed. I have heard this many times. I will be trying the cal carb and castor oil as well as the gluten free diet. Be well.
Yes. My gallbladder was removed for a long time and I got the lipoma for years. I am looking for the best way to get rid of it so bad.
It is a big appreciation if anyone here can tell me what is the best way to get rid of the lipoma. I have been in the embarassed moment for swimming, sports or even shy to semi-naked when very hot for exercise, etc.
Thanks once again advance if anyone here can input some nice wayout, thanks again!
I had my gallbladder taken out 10 yrs or so ago. All of my lipomas started with an ache. I have 2 near tailbone, 1 on spine. The one on my outer calf seemed to appear all of a sudden. My other conditions are bone spurs, ADHD, high cholesterol & blood pressure.
Hello, sorry I did not check in for many weeks--I use castor oil in addition to the regular olive oil flush. I use the pack on my abdomen as well as consuming small quantities on occasion. Getting best results from baking soda at the moment. I wil try and change my settings so I get an email when someone messages me so if you reply it won't take me so long to get back to you :) good luck!
Sometimes there is pain and sometimes not but if you are having nausea, bloating and burping that's a sure sign you need to do a liver cleanse. Supplements help but there is no replacement for a Liver Flush which actually get all the stones and sludge out that is blocking the liver and gallbladder from functioning optimally.
I'm talking about 2 heaping TBSPs in very warm/hot water. That's pretty gentle. The Epsom Salt will be much more harsh on the system. For me causes kidney pain so now I only do mag citrate. The lemon juice and olive oil alone can get stones out but doing the mag citrate a couple of hours before loosens up the ducts and makes it easier to expel the stones and sludge.
Lemon juice is the best as the tartness activates the liver/GB. I do 3 fresh squeezed lemons and an equal amount of olive oil. I put some hot water in it to warm it up as that also makes it easier to pass stones and sludge.
Oil will typically stay in the stomach for many hours so your issue is pretty normal. Doing a flush with undigested food still in the stomach does not work so well. Better to do it on an empty stomach if you can. It will typically take many flushes to get the GB working the way it's supposed to so patience is key. I had to do 6-7 Liver Flushes before I could feel my GB working right after a meal.
Maybe do some colon cleansing before the next flush as well to make sure the intestines are clear.
I suffered from the same condition. You need to start with SCD diet and proper food combination that will be easy for digestion. Also supplement with digestive enzymes to support the digestion track.
Here is a resource on SCD diet: http://www.scdlifestyle.com. This will tell you what to eat. You can also try khichadi, an Indian dish which is very easy on the stomach. Make the non-spicy, non-fat version.
Try now foods super enzymes as they have pancreatic enzymes as well as ox bile. This will help in digestion of carbs, proteins as well as fats.
You might also be deficient in stomach acid. Have you been on PPI, antacids? Or may be a H. pylori infection?
You have to liver flush. I was scared of doing the Liver Flush too. So I got an ultrasound to see if I had gallbladder stones or if my liver and gallbladder were inflamed. Everything was normal so I proceeded to the liver flush. If you are too afraid to drink half cup of olive oil then you should try 1/4th cup or even 1/6th cup. But get started with the liver flushes.
Does this sound like pancreatitis caused by parasites?
I have been suffering from a mysterious "congested middle left abdominal discomfort" for about five years that no doctors can really diagnose.
It's a congested, bloated, stretched, tissue-sticked-together feeling around the left side of the belly button, irradiated to the left side and back with a swollen looking. It gets worse with high fat diet.
For the past 2 days I've been eating high amount of coconut oil with Praziquantel+Albendazole for flukes. Soon after I got cramps at the location where the old dull bloating pain has been bothering me, the whole left side feels like about to explode.
I'm in a lot of pain now and realized the whole thing could be pancreatitis, pancreas blockage, caused by liver/pancreas flukes, or, Ascaris in bile duct?
If possible, how do I get them diagnosed? At the onset of this ailment 5 years ago(since then health got downhill) it was acute pain with fever, during the following year I had been seeking medical help from all kinds of doctors and had ultra sounds, CAT scans, blood tests and they said nothing.
pancreatitis presents that way. pain in the upper left quadrant that often radiates through to the back. It can be caused from a blockage in the gallbladder where it goes to the pancreas, but can be unrelated often. I'd have it checked. Pancreatitis is dangerous. The treatment is nothing by mouth. Not even water. A clinic can give you IV's til you are better. Also pain meds via IV. Don't play with it. It can be fatal. Enzymes will be checked til they get low enough.
Hi just wondering if this site can help my cat whom was told had pancreas cancer by vet, i use b17 and a few other drinks made up of veg ect, the vet told me today after 3k spent in 4 weeks,they cant help ,and refered my cat to another clinic
I will not give up on her as she still eats,drinks,she also gets out and about on her own
In a small study presented at the 1997 meeting of the North American Primary Care Research Group and subsequently described in American Family Physician, Richard L. Garrison, MD, studied the effect of a “traditional home remedy for inducing gallstone expulsion using lemon juice, olive oil, cascara sagrada and garlic/castile enemas” in 6 patients with symptomatic Gallstones which had been confirmed by ultrasound. (16) An ultrasound after the procedure assessed clearing of stones. Alter completing the liver flush, five of six patients were asymptomatic for periods ranging from two to 27 months. At least one woman cleared all her stones, but she proceeded with surgery anyway at the advice of her surgeon. The investigators concluded that the procedure could potentially eliminate the need for surgery in many patients. http://www.drlindai.com/detox.html
Here is the publication.
It's not really an article, I'm not sure if it would be considered peer reviewed because it's stuck in the conference highlights section of an issue of American Family Physician, Vol 58 (4) from 1998.
I will provide the link but you may not be able to access it without a subscription (I go to a university so I have access through their library):
Home Remedy May Help Prevent Surgery in Some Patients with Gallstones
(North American Primary Care Research Group)
Results of a study examining the efficacy of a traditional home remedy for inducing gallstone expulsion using lemon juice, olive oil, cascara sagrada and garlic/castile enemas suggested that this protocol has the potential to safely eliminate the need for gallstone surgery in a substantial percentage of patients. Six patients with symptomatic cholelithiasis proven by ultrasound were included in the study. The subjects completed a three-day treatment protocol and collected Gallstones recovered from the enema. All of the patients passed stones. No side effects were observed, except for mild nausea in one patient. Intermittent ultrasound monitoring was performed for three hours per day each day of the protocol. A final ultrasound assessed the degree of clearing of cholelithiasis. Five of the patients were asymptomatic for follow-up periods ranging from two to 27 months; mild symptoms returned in one of these patients after three months. The patient who remained symptomatic underwent cholecystectomy about one month after the home-remedy protocol. One of the asymptomatic patients who passed all of her stones underwent cholecystectomy anyway under the advice of her surgeon. The investigators believe that, with modifications, this protocol could safely eliminate the need for surgery in many patients with cholelithiasis.—richard l. garrison, m.d., University of Texas Medical School, Houston.
Ah, Paraboy, I'm sure there are more than enough people who will continue to argue against anything out of the realm of conventional medicine, they will argue it's only one study and will question its veracity and the credibility of R.L. Garrison.
I'm quite confident the Liver Flush debate forum will continue indefinitely.
So I have a gajillion problems, I am positive it is from a terrible diet from all my travelling. Mostly fast food and soda. Anyway to make a long story short I developed arthritis. I went to a doctor and have rheumatoid factor and high sed rate and creative protein. I also have the gene hlab27 and AS. My back pain problems go all the way back to my 20s where I threw my back out constantly.
I believe AS couple with a terrible diet led me to arthritis and many other problems. About a year and a half ago I weighed 316 lbs and was convinced by doctors to get gastric bypass. Well, I decided I did not want to do that and began to change my diet and fasted with a lot of research. My research never came across getting gallstone. So now I have a gallstone and I have a lot of problems with digestion. For awhile I had diarrhea or constipation at random and couldn't go out or do anything. After while of dieting and losing weight my bowels are a little more controllable but still not normal.
I had an ultrasound and I have one stone that they saw near the duct. I know it is there because I can feel it all the time. It isn't terribly painful but it's annoying. I mainly have problems with constipation, and seems like it takes days for food to digest.
Right now my diet is chicken and fish with kale, chard, avocados, olives, pickles, sauerkraut, carrots, blueberries, apples, raspberries, grapes, broccoli, beets, flax milk, coconut oil, bone broth, bananas, tomatoes, and that's about it. Every now and then I get gluten free pizza or tacos. I avoid gluten, dairy, and any added sugar.
I am taking these supplements for over a year. Fish oil, turmeric, glucosamine, chondroiton, msm, ox bile salts, vitamin d3 and a long list of digestive enzymes.
I will be starting rowachol, interfase, glutamine, and montmorency tart cherry juice this weekend.
I am down to 240lbs but have recently flared up with back pain that is bad enough to keep me in bed for almost 2 months now. So I haven't been able to exercise or work or anything except focus on my diet. Currently, whenever I take bile salts my gallbladder lights up and I feel it doing something. Whenever I eat I feel disgusting with belching and gas so I refuse to eat out with anyone despite my healthy choices.
I am always nauseated and fatigued to the point where I can't even get up from bed. I have to fight with myself constantly to go to the bathroom or move from my bed to my desk or to walk my dog. It seems like all that takes the life out of me. Then I can't sleep for more than 3-5 hours at a time. I used to sleep 8-10 hours every night and really miss that.
I have been diagnosed with rheumatoid arthritis and Anklyosing arthritis. Although I am sure that I do not have rheumatoid arthritis and everything is related to AS and digestive problems. A doctor mentioned I may have high levels of mercury but do not know where they found this as o haven't been tested for it. I do have silver filling in 3 teeth and plan to have them removed for compositors as I can afford it.
Right now I would just like my digestive system to get in check, I am so sick of feeling nauseated and weak all day every day. I rarely have a good day anymore. If I do then it's full of pain from inflammation.
I wanted to know if there are any other things I should be doing to help my digestive system? I don't know what else can possibly help besides the supplements I am getting this weekend. I have eliminated all the foods that trigger pain or make my stomach worse. Most of that had been bread, mangos oddly, dairy such as milk or cheese, the worst pain comes from bacon and eggs.
I do take 5-10mg of prednisone every day otherwise the pain is too much and my tongue swells and I can't function much at all. It makes losing weight very difficult but I am afraid to lose anymore and form more gallstones. My doctors are wanting to start me on humira which I am afraid of, the side effects for that are twice as scary as prednisone which I have been on for nearly a year now off and on. I haven't stopped taking it for several months now.
I do drink only purified water or core water or electrolyzed water when available. I do not drink coffee or sodas or milk and rarely any juice. I eat very little and do not lose weight unless I fast. I blame prednisone for that and wish I could get off it as if I could I feel like I would drop weight fairly easy.
My goal is to get on consentyx for AS, and hopefully heal my stomach, and get off prednisone so I can lose weight and hopefully get back to walking normally again.
Any advice or recommendations would be greatly appreciated and greeted with a warm welcome.
By the way I ordered a ubiome kit which should arrive shortly so I can find out what bacteria is rolling around in my guts. I had an h pylori infection which was eradicated with amoxicillin and some clavumanate or whatever antibiotics which seemed like it was killing me for nearly 3 weeks. I no longer have this infection. I was also on minocycline twice to attempt it as an arthritis treatment but I could not handle the headaches and dizziness. I was also on Meloxicam for months which only helped with pain and seemed to make my life worse.
I have made slight progress with my diet changes as I feel lighter and I am able to actually open and close my hands as before I could not. Right now they are swollen but I am able to use them. I am slightly better off because of it.
Anyway, that's all I can think of to give information about these terrible diseases I have brought upon myself. I am slowly digging myself out of the death trap. I have researched everything on my own so far and have had very little help from doctors at all. So I hope that I can find some advice here.