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Hello! My grandmother's dentist told her that she needs to have a root canal on 3 teeth. I've read so many bad things about root canals and it leading to more problems, what can she do to avoid this?
Since she was experiencing lots of pain from the infected teeth, they had put her on antibiotics. The antibiotics made her very weak and ill. She has finished them and is now feeling better since off of them. The dentist still wants to go ahead with the root canal. Her teeth are still infected and swollen.
I read that oregano oil dabbed onto the infected teeth could help. Also, swishing with himalayan salt, Colloidal Silver , and unrefined coconut oil could be of help too, what do you think?
Oregano oil is one of the most powerful antibiotics available, it kills bacteria, fungal infections, MRSA and all types of troubles. Coconut oil helps dilute the strength of the essential oil (the oregano) and carry it into the tissues around the mouth where the infections hide and reside.
With root canals the infection has reached down to the bloodstream, so you need oils fine enough in particulate size to get right to the bloodstream and nerve tissue.
Oil pulling at the full 20 minutes will allow the medicine to saturate the jaw, both above and below, and the infectious material can circulate out instead of down the throat and back into the bloodstream, where it can continue the infection cycle.
Avoiding swallowing is important. The oil of oregano can trigger feeling a bit sick while the infection at the root of the teeth dies, because some of the oil of oregano goes to other tissues in the body, but it is not in and of itself poisonous like prescription antibiotics.
If there is too much unwell feeling, drinking activated charcoal powder, Bentonite clay or using activated charcoal tabs or capsules will alleviate the discomfort, alongside plenty of water. Activated charcoal should be available at all pharmacies/chemist shops, just ask the pharmacist.
Hello! My grandmother's dentist told her that she needs to have a root canal on 3 teeth.
My opinion is that she get a second opinion preferably from a holistic dentist
The pain indicates there is a problem, but the holistic dentist will determine to what extent, and advise on any needed treatment.
If he recommends removal, he will do it in a proper way. You didn't mention if the teeth had fillings in them that contain mercury, but that dentist will remove them making sure she doesn't consume any of the mercury.
Dentists love root canals - they're the big ticket item that keeps their practices thriving. If you have a sore toe, they'll recommend a root canal.
But as others have said, they can have bad health consequences. When I've had abscesses or other problems where root canals were recommended as urgent and essential I've done these two things:
1) If there's pain, puss abscess or infection - put a clump of Bentonite clay between the cheeck and gum of the tooth in question. Keep this up until the pain goes away, swelling subsides etc. The clay will start to smell terrible as it draws out the infection from the gums. Put fresh clay every couple hours.
2) (As others have said) oil pull at least twice a day with your oil of choice plus a few drops of oregano oil (or as many as you can take without your mouth feeling like it's burning).
The last time this happened - I went another five years or so before it became a problem again. Instead of going for the recommended root canal, implant, etc - I just had them extract it.
I always wondered if I kept oil pulling daily as recommended if i would have had to lose the tooth at all.
I got her to start the coconut & oregano oil pulling 2x-3x a day. I will also be purchasing the Bentonite clay and have her do that once it arrives. She has given up Sugar too, so hopefully that will help, and I'll be looking for a holistic dentist in the mean time.
Thanks again everyone! This is exactly why I love this site so much, everyone gives such amazing advice :)
Very good. In my experience the pulling with oregano oil definitely helps - if gradually. But for the fastest cessation of infection and pain, the Bentonite clay is FAR more powerful and fast acting for infections inside the gums. You'll be amazed.
Very interesting post, I have not heard about this before.
I have a gum that smells next to one Molar, I assume it will develop into an Abscess eventually.
No pain yet but I had the Molar next to it out 2 weeks ago because of a smelly gum that developed into an Abscess. Both teeth had root canal work done 12 years ago.
I am in the UK and have found 100% Oregano oil for sale online.
As you mentioned it should not be ingested just swished around the mouth. I can add a couple of drops when I Coconut oil pull everyday.
As far as the Bentonite clay goes. I have found Calcium Bentonite clay. It looks like powder in the picture, is that the correct one?
Some advertise Sodium Bentonite, others Calcium Benonite.
I would assume 100g would last a long time and would be a good amount to test with.
Clove essential oil also works very well for a tooth issue.I had a tooth pulled a few weeks back and applied some to my mouth and in about 5 mins my pain was relived. Clove oil is often times used for toothaches. Myrrh is the most commonly used essential oil for mouth sores. To use Clove oil dilute in a small amount of a carrier oil add a drop to a cotton ball or swab and apply to the affected tooth, or press against the gum around the affected tooth.
Amazing, thank-you for that information.
I had a molar extracted and the roots drilled out 3 weeks ago. I would have used it then if I had known.
The soreness went about a week ago thankfully.
It seems to be healing well.
I have been adding 1 or 2 drops of 100% Oregano oil to my coconut oil pulling and I have been using Bentonite clay around the molar next to the extracted tooth because the gum was smelling.
The next day the smell was gone. I will carry on using it daily.
I was thinking of putting some Calcium Bentonite clay in a mouth guard and treating all the teeth and gums maybe once a week as this could help with remineralisation along with taking out any heavy metals.
Yes the clay sucks the infection out of the gum and if you'll notice after awhile the clay starts smelling terrible because of it. Just take it out and put in more till the abscess is totally gone.
I wouldn't use it constantly because clay doesn't care what it absorbs. It gets everything in it's path, and therefore would harm the mouths bacterial balance. Not a good idea. Oil pulling with coconut oil would give you more than enough anti-bacterial support for daily use.
Even coconut oil I won't use every day for long periods of time.
I have been Coconut oil pulling twice a day for almost a month now.
I hope I am not overdoing it.
I would normally just do it once daily but I do still have 1 root canalled filled tooth and it was smelling around that tooth so in the evening I drink a cup of green Tea and then use the tea bag to place between the tooth and gum for an hour. It's much easier than clay.
Then oil pull with 2 drops of oregano oil.
The reason I asked about using Bentonite clay in a mouth guard once weekly was in the hope that it would remineralise teeth and reverse receded gums from past over brushing.
One thing that IS known to help regrow gums is COQ10. And studies have shown COQ10 in an oil base has a much amplified effect.
I confirmed that myself using liquid COQ10 along with my oil pulling. Taking maybe 30 mgs of COQ10 in oil while pulling had a MUCH more powerful effect than the 200 mg capsules of Q10 I was taking before.
The capsules barely registered an effect while the much lower dose added to my OP put my energy through the roof and caused a tingly sensation.
In fact any day that I went without sleep, I'd always do the Q10 oil pull and I'd still be able to work like a champ all day.
I had severe gum receding and 20 years ago a dentist told me I'd likely have almost no teeth in 10 years. Not so at all and I attribute that to the COQ10 (especially mixed with OP).
We talked about this quite a bit in this forum a year or two ago.
Hey Mr. Cuddly...been a while! What brand of COQ10 liquid are you using now? The Vitol which you recommended before is no longer being manufactured. In fact according to a test by Consumer Labs, Vitol contained less than 4% of the claimed amount of COQ10.
You add the liquid Q10 to the oil your pulling with. The fat of the oil charges the Q10 along with the dwell time in your mouth while you're pulling.
Be careful, though, the effect can be powerful. I would start with however many drops equal about 30 mgs of Q10 and go up from there if desired.
Again, I would routinely take 200 mgs of Q10 by capsule (Jarrow brand) and get a much bigger reaction from the 30 mgs mixed in with the oil. Not only is it much more powerful, but saves a lot of money since Q10 can be expensive, and is directly contacting the gums for 20 minutes.
when it's that bad it's best to do the root canal. What is bad about them is that residual bacteri grow in whats left of the tooth and their toxins cause your bodys immunity against cancer to be low. What to do then is treat the canaled teeth with direct current to kill the residual bacteria. You can message me for more info.
I have recently started swishing Mag. Oil in my mouth for 20 minutes twice a day. What a wonderful difference it's making for my gums and teeth. The pockets are closing, gums firming up, and the teeth are whiter and cleaner than I could ever get them by oil pulling using Sesame Seed oil.
Very interesting! Are you oil pulling with sesame also or just the magnesium now? I was always amazed at how fast oil pulling firmed up the gums, but magnesium oil is even faster?
Magnesium is very important stuff and I use a magnesium drink regularly. But keep in mind that too much magnesium can cause low blood pressure and even irregular heart beats (never good). So keep an eye on it. If you start feeling weak like you've had a big drop in blood pressure or heart palpitations ease off for awhile.
If it works well, it could be that twice a day might be too much on a regular basis but twice a week could make a huge difference - who knows?
Keep using (carefully) and keep us up to date. This could be a fantastic breakthrough for people with hypertension, sleep problems, depression, etc - not to mention gum disease.
Yeah, I had the same thought, that twice a day sounded a bit much.
To be clear, the testimonial was from another person, who posted at the link given. I've been using magnesium oil for rinsing and brushing my teeth, along with a calcium rinse I get from calciumtherapy.com. I figure using them together is optimal. I've only swished for 20 min. once so far, after reading the testimonial. It's strong stuff, bitter tasting (I dilute it 50/50 with water), and I think anyone who wasn't used to it would have trouble pulling with it. I think I'll swish with it 2 or 3 times a week as well as continuing to brush and rinse with it, and do my regular olive oil/COQ10 swishing other days.
There are many reports of dental improvement from using it orally.
Here's Dr. Mark Sircus for example:
"What you are about to read represents a monumental medical and dental discovery. We find out after all that the most basic nutritional substance from the sea is the most powerful and safe medical healing substance. Magnesium chloride as you will see, the same product when injected during a heart attack or stroke to save your life, can be used in a wide variety of disorders. I even use it as the best mouthwash you can imagine and it has saved my gums and thus my teeth from deterioration."
So, yeah, I feel this is well worth further experimentation!
You're our new oral health cosmonaut! I hope you have some "before" pictures, since you've got to have some dramatic improvements by the time you're done. Just don't expect dentists to have the pictures in their offices (unless they neglect to mention the natural methods you used).
Also please post your feedback on magnesium oil pulling after you've done it a few weeks. I might have to give it a try.
Sorry, no "before" pics...dunno about "after" pics either,
but I AM feeling more confident about smiling. Swishing with that stuff is an experience! As I said before, it has a "unique" taste, and is very tingly on the gums. You can feel it working. I swish until it's diluted a bit from the saliva, spit out and brush, no need to use anything other than the mag oil residue in the mouth.
btw, in searching curezone about mag oil, I found this post from you Larry/Mr. C!
So you've known about the virtues of this for some time, and its potential for swishing. Did you ever take the leap and try it yourself?
As well as swishing/brushing, I am also using it under the arms, yes it's an effective deodorant, and on other areas. Foot soaks are supposed to be an efficient delivery system.
But possibly swishing is even better!
Did you know transdermal magnesium raises DHEA in the body?
And DHEA is the youth hormone. Could this (along with swishing CQQ10 liquid) be the fountain of youth? We shall see!
Nice sleuthing! I did order the magnesium oil from Swansons that was all natural somehow and I don't remember how it was harvested/extracted. But it was caked in sodium and just putting a little on my skin raised my blood pressure higher than watching the presidential debates.
So I was curious about it but after losing money on the one form of mag oil, kind of let the idea go. So that's another reason I'm interested in what you're doing. What brand are you using?
First, take magnesium MALATE CAPSULES, not the TABLETS, with lemon juice first thing in the morning and last at night. This will greatly increase magnesium absorption, lemon juice, taken with all supplements.
Then make your own magnesium oil, just add epson salts or magnesium chloride to the oil. Let it sit all day, then start using it.....
It is cheaper to make than to buy, especially if using epson salts!
Hi. Will give it a go as I know I'm magnesium deficient. I take Lifestream Calcium Complex pwd - when I remember - which has mag too plus selenium & boron. I remember to take it when I get bad cramp & Magnesium oil fixes it instantly. Magnesium is also great for mood swings.
Regarding the Epsom Salts . Do you know if there is a 'food grade'? I tried the Apple juice/Epsom Salt/Lemon juice/Olive oil cure for Gallstones & felt rather queezy after the Epsom part. Then I spotted on a bulk container in the health shop which was labelled 'Not food grade' but was none the wiser after inquiring
I've tried sesame oil too but wasn't that impressed so will give Magnesium oil a try. I have gum issues so fingers X'd. I've been using magnesium oil for a few yrs now for aches and pains. I usually rub on some lotion first and then the oil and rub in well. Works a treat when I'm sitting studying for long periods as well as for osteoarthritis in the wrists.
Hi all, I started using a 33% magnesium chloride mixture. I use less than half a teaspoon, it's strong stuff. Works better than anything I've tried for sensitive, bleeding gums (essential oils, salt water, mega dosing vit.C) . I use it after stoking my teeth (also highly beneficial) and keep it in my mouth till my gums no longer feel sensitive (it will get worse before it gets better), this can take anywhere from 1 minute to 15 minutes.
However! I measured pH and it's too low for around your teeth (5.75, should be around 7), it can wear away enamel and make you prone to cavities. My teeth are very sensitive to cold now.
Because it works so well for gums though, I wanted to change the pH with baking soda, but it started to fizz and was not effective anymore.
I tried magnesium sulfate, but it didn't work and the pH was too low also. I'm not even sure how it works now: antibacterial action, magnesium absorption? (Could still be, in my experience magnesium sulfate barely gets absorbed.)
If anyone with a chemistry background now what could work to change the pH, I'd love to hear! And I hope my info was helpful.
PS: MrCuddly, magnesium oil doesn't contain sodium. It does contain chloride though (it's magnesium chloride) just like salt (sodium chloride). You are confirming to me what I've read before: that it's not sodium that increases blood pressure but chloride.
I was looking at the poll that was posted for OP'ing and I noticed that for people who do this, it helps their dry skin. I am on the other end of the spectrum and have very oily skin. The last thing I want is to make it even oilier. I realize that all people have different experiences with certain procedures, but I was hoping someone would have insight on this.
Before OP, my skin was VERY oily, especially when it was hot outside. Once I started swishing with coconut oil and recently, sunflower oil...no more oily skin. My skin isn't painfully dry nor does it get so dirty.
Thank you for your input. I just started OP'ing today. As for my skin, I can wash it and two hours later I need to wash it again. It's very aggravating espescially in social settings. Could you tell me how long it was before you started noticing a difference and how long it took to achieve where you are today? Also, do you have a preference between the coconut oil and the sunflower oil other than taste? I used extra virgin olive oil because that is all I had on hand, but I was thinking of getting either sesame or sunflower.
Stopping washing your face with soap is a great way to stop oily skin. I have loved relegating the bar soap I used to use for my face to the tooth-brushing kit, and instead using...oil. My theory is that when you wash with soap, it dries out your skin, so you overproduce oil to compensate. (I have found this with hair, too -- I rarely wash my hair now -- about once a week if that -- and when I used to wash it every other day or so, it would get dirty really quickly -- now, it never reaches that point.)
I put oil on my face while I OP, let it sit for a while, and wipe it off with a damp cloth. I usually add a little Iodine to that mix. Then it looks/feels really clean, and that's it!
I use a 50/50 of castor oil and olive oil. I have normal skin. I have been putting it on when I get in the shower and wash it off, after I wash my hair. I have been doing this proctol for a few months now and love the way my skin feels! I top it off with apricot oil and added frankincense essential oil. I have been told I glow :D!
When I first started OP'ing, I was using extra-virgin olive oil. It took a little over a month before my skin was less oily. I stopped pulling for a while and my oily skin came right back. I pulled with soybean oil with okay results.
Once I started using coconut oil (I started first two weeks of this month), my oily skin went away. I stopped washing my face with soap months ago. I use an apricot scrub when I clean my face. I only use this 2 times a day. This also helps to keep my skin from getting oily.
you might try topically applying VCO for awhile. It dries out a lot of people's skin-- mine did too though I had t-zone oiliness. some people balance the drying out effect with either using VCO so much that the skin gets used to it, or by adding some jojoba oil to the mix.
I have been using salt water rinses since my tooth extraction 4 weeks ago.
About 10 days after the extraction I started coconut oil pulling twice a day.
Afterwards I floss and brush my teeth and rinse with salt water ( I have given up Listerine because of the Glycerine and alcohol content).
Will the salt water rinses raise acidity in the mouth and cause decay to my teeth enamel if I carry on?
After meals I rinse with a mouthful of water and 1/4 tea spoon of Bicarbonate of soda instead of brushing because I have been an over brusher in the past.
I posted a few weeks ago about cold sensitivity and the dentist wanting to do a root canal. The pain has progressed since then to something that sounds suspiciously like trigeminal neuralgia, which i have read can start after dental work that traumatized the nerve. I have pain that comes in waves and is only one sided. It is centered right in front of my left jaw joint and can radiate to both upper and lower teeth, my tongue, the roof of my mouth, my throat, my neck, my eye, and all the way to the top of my head. The pain can be so intense I can't even talk for fear of moving my tongue and making the pain worse. Then it will disappear as suddenly as it came. Cold seems to be the main aggravating factor and it is winter here in Montana so that doesn't bode well. The suspicious tooth still has no other symptom besides cold sensitivity. I have been oilpulling though not real consistently. Has anyone had this kind of pain and had oil pulling help? I can't live with this pain...at its worst I would rate it an 8 out of 10, but then it will go away for awhile. I am ready to do some serious drugs and also murder my dentist.....just kidding (I think).
Here is what I am doing now: oil pulling with toasted sesame oil,
using the black paste from Ascended Health, using an herbal mouthwash from "Cleansing or Surgery." I also ordered an oral irrigator from the Robert Nara DDS website. The problem is that ALL these things trigger episodes of the pain. ACK!
I am thinking I will need to go get some medicine for trigeminal neuralgia, and then work on my teeth not having to worry about triggering pain.
Just in case the pain is related to an infection, try pulling with a couple drops of oregano oil. I had a terrible toothache that started Friday from a tooth where fillings fell out of months ago. Putting a couple drops of oregano oil in with my flaxseed oil with a couple back to back pulls took care of the problem completely. OK I'll admit I also put some Colloidal Silver in the mix, but I imagine it was the oregano oil (as usual) that did the trick.
The problem with OP is that it takes care of so many oral issues that you can get really lazy about going to the dentist. Since I started some chelation a year or so ago, I've had several mercury fillings fall out and a crown. The OP has kept my oral health in such good order that I haven't bothered to go the dentist to get them refilled. (Actually my teeth don't respond well to numbing, so cavety filling is usually pretty horrific).
Anyway, try pulling with oregano oil (and don't use the oregano oil that's in an olive oil base - most is). I buy the phyto-something or other brand of oregano oil capsules that you can get at WholeFoods, and mix in the contents of two capsules. They're not in an olive oil base.
I know that's the worst kind of pain. Something similar happened to me last August. My dentist filled a cavity under a crown and said he drilled so close to the nerve that I would probably need root canal.
Dentists are quick to pull the trigger on root canals, that's their only option.
If you can hang in there, I'm convinced OP helped me avoid it. The first week of pulling drew out more infection. I used oregano oil, too. You have to be consistent, do it every day, at least until this crisis is over.
Hi, I suffered from Trigeminal Neuralgia. I started coconut oil pulling on Feb 19, 2016. But inJuly 2016 I suffered from shingles because when the virus is coming out my immune system is little bit down. The oil pulling cured trigeminal neuralgia. I strongly recommend it.
Hi, first I will start off with my great tip. I am a bb sufferer, and one day I was
waiting in line at the car wash and the lady in front couldn't get it started, and she asks me can you go tell them in the store its not working. She didnt even say it all that nice or even a please which was rude. I usually have a small piece of Trident in my mouth to cover bb. But this lady caught me off guard and I got out of my car knowing I was gonna blow some bb in that store. Sure enough when I go to speak some old guy at the counter covers his nose. I went home fed up thinking how unfair some old guy can have normal breath yet me in my 20's is the one with chronic bb. Now I have known about tonsil stones and checked a few times before and never saw any on my tonsils so I assumed I was free of them. But this time, I just sensed that stink breath was coming from my throat since I had really been trying to keep my mouth very clean. I was at my wits' end and so I started poking around my tonsil area with a dental tool, pushing my tonsil forward to see if anything white was behind it, and lo and behold sure enough I found white stuff! I was actually excited thinking I may have finally found the cause. I picked a few of these small nuggets out, like three. I smashed them in my finger tips it smelled like dog breath.
After I used a waterpik to flush out my tonsil area, and I looked down at the water I spit out and sure enough I saw a tonsil stone. It was exciting to me, then I tryed again and a big one came out, like half the size of a match head. It was extra stinky, smelled so strong like dog breath and a sulpheric chemical.
Well yesterday I was talking on the phone in the morning and it smelled strongly of stinky feet. I got fed up and started picking around my tonsils on the other side of my mouth. I discovered that right before your tonsils is a flap of skin, and behind it is a large crypt with lots of crypt holes. I thought gee isnt that great..more damn holes I have to worry about keeping clean. My dental pick got caught in the crypt and what do you know suddenly I see a tonsil stone on top of my pick. I smashed it and it stank like dog breath. I got the waterpik and flushed out that cavern, and four more stones came out. Now these "stones" are actually soft, like stinky plaque balled up, and my largest 2 ones were half the size of a match head. It just seems like something that any normal person could build up around that area so thats why I say to check and see if you have them! I put hydrogen peroxide in my waterpik with water and cleansed the area. Today I talked on the phone and felt like my breath was alot cleaner.
After getting so many of these stink stones out of my tonsil area, I will never look at dental hygiene the same. I just can't believe how many holes there are above your tonsils, behind them. Then that large crypt in front of them with many holes. You can barely see some holes in the front crypt if you use a dental pick tool but its kind of harsh on the tissue, or you can use a dental mirror and a flashlight but the mirror keeps fogging up and an easy way to defog it is to run it under water.
If you do find you have them, you should routinely flush out this area. I hope this helps and best of luck. My dental mirror constantly fogging up was a bummer, if you know a better way let me know , or any other tips I may have not mentioned about this would be nice.
Its so wonderful you figured out what was causing this horrible problem for you. I have this awful problem as well but still desperately searching every day for the source of it. My ENT says he didn't see any crypts when looking down my throat so I never really went the tonsil route. But I often wonder if that could be my problem and there somehow hidden. I am definitely going to try the same thing when I get home tonight and use a flashlight. When tryin to do it with the naked eye in regular light its hopeless, I can't see anything.
I have that same really stinky stinky feet smell that seems to fill up a room when I'm in it. People move away from me when I speak, and at work they move away from me even if I come anywhere near them. At least a good 50% of my day at work is holding my breath. Its so horrible this problem.
Yes makes sense, since before when I would take a first bite of food like fruit, I would get an intense uncomfortable feeling like as if I just sucked on a lemon coming from my salivary glands. I was reading today that people who get an uncomfortable swelling from their salivary glands when eating get this due to a blockage in the ducts. And I know for sure I definitely had those stones blocking my ducts.
Today I tried massaging the area, I found a very tiny soft white piece but that was it. But lots of saliva coming out, at least i know they are working fine. But this saliva coming freshly out of my ducts smells so strong. My saliva smells just how my bb smells. Every morning I wake up with a heavy taste/ smell in the back of my mouth.
I think gargling with water/peroxide works the best so far in getting the odor out. I also try using the waterpik with it and hitting the holes. I read somewhere this lady used a very slim needless syringe and she would stick it deep in the holes and use a saline mixture. SHe said when she did this 30 stones came out of one hole and since then she hasnt had bb. But yeah Im thinking about trying to find such a slim syringe and try that method of flushing them. When I used the waterpik I often get a pain when I put it in the hole because of the constant waterflow, but it did help to really flush it out and get some stones out.
But I will say..since those stones have come out, my ducts arent as clogged as before, thus no longer noticing a sour pain when first eating something. My bb was really bad and strong before, when I never really thought about tonsil area cleansing. But now, I'd say it has improved, and especially after gargling with peroxide in that area ..right afterwards it is a big improvement. But I still always wake up with a heavy taste/smell in the back of my mouth, my saliva coming out of my ducts smells bad just like those stones. What seems to help alot is good hygiene in that area. Goodluck to us all.
I'm going to the dentist tomorrow, because I am a mouth breather and I do snore at night. I can stink up a room with my breath just by sleeping in it for a few hours. I haven't been taking proper care of my teeth, and I feel this is most of the problem. I will also be seeing an Ear, Throat, and Nose, doctor next week. I will stay in touch and let you know what happens. Thanks.
Hi, you can add 1/3 or less (hydrogen peroxide 3%) to 2/3 water in your waterpik and get a small flashlight then hit above the tonsils in back of them in front of them..theres a bunch of holes. Get a flashlight and study the area, the hardest part for me is in front of tonsils because theres a flap of skin I cant seem to pull back to see the holes very well, but they are there...I discovered 4 tonsils stones in one side. I have to be careful when hitting those front holes because the water pressure hurts them.
Another method is to just gargle with water/h peroxide and be sure to get it in those areas.
In my mouth I think the smell is coming from these holes. When I massage them saliva comes out and it smells strongly. I think when I had my saliva ducts plugged with gross tonsil stones it was really bad. Smelled sour like stinky feet. But now that I have removed them, there still is an odor coming from them even though I try to daily clean the area.
It smells like stale stagnant saliva, kind of a salty smell, kind of metallic smelling. Kind of reminds me of the smell of pancake batter, or if I had just eaten a cup of cornflakes without milk. If anyone knows what this odor usually means or where its coming from (saliva ducts, or mucus?)let me know.
I cannot shake off this smell. It is a strong heavy odor I can taste and smell everyday when I wake up. I feel its coming directly from this area. It's either heavy bacteria in the holes, or odor from mucus maybe. I feel so close to having normal breath though. I feel if this odor was gone my breath would be normal. Yes the h peroxide helps alot in toning it down, but Im not really sure if I am completely odor free afterwards. I know it comes back slightly after a few hours.
I really have come a long ways in discovering all the bad things that were wrong with my breath. I used to have VERY bb, so bad I offended myself I couldnt believe it lol. I used to have bb from plaque on my teeth because for some reason a regular toothbrush just didnt do it for me, as soon as I switched to a sonicare it improved and when my sonicare broke and I went back to a regular brush the plaque smell came back. I used to eat tons of cheese and milk and I had to figure out that I had postnasal drip smell. On my innercheeks , where my teeth touch my cheeks there is minor scapes. I still have them but not as bad as before. Someone online complained the skin was sloughing off in their mouth when using crest toothpaste ..so that may have been why it was worse before because I did use that kind, now days I use desert tea tree oil toothpaste you can get at wholefoods or colgate is good. But the dead skin cells created a very gross stinky feet smell. Listerine wouldnt remove it at all. Then I discovered the amazing power of h. peroxide thanks to sites like these. After rinsing with it..as soon as I went in my car. I was like hey I dont smell that gross stinky feet smell..yay! Then I noticed ok now theres an odor coming from my throat, and no its not pnd smell. So I removed those stones, it helped some, and now Im at this point..still some kind of smell in that area.
Tonight I bought a medicine dropper at Walmart, really cheap, with a small tip, but I want to find a needless syringe that is narrow , or a longer narrow tip so I can go deep in the big holes (if its even possible I dont know). But this will do for now. Basically I want to fill it with substances that are safe powerful disinfectants and inject it into these holes, and all over the area. I got this idea from some lady online, she used a simple saline solution, and she said about 30 stones came out of one hole since then no bb.
Other ideas I thought of are filling it with apple cider vinegar/water, because I think it does help to kill bacteria. Another solution idea is h. peroxide/water. But I need to be careful and spit it all out since you arent supposed to swallow h peroxide. Garlic..if I can get some juice out of it..maybe use a juicer, grapefruit seed extract- few drops in water, oil of oregano-few drops in water/ beware it irritates skin so dilute. Lemon juice.
Another way is just pouring it in that area, or with a dropper, and gargling with it.
Those are all powerful disinfectants I can think of..maybe Colloidal Silver but I've never tried it nor do I know what it even looks like, maybe goldenseal.
I haven't nettie potted in months, I should do that too to dilute mucus and clean out the nasal passage/throat. Thats all I can think of for now.
Good post for localized causes of BB. You might want to try these 2 other rinses that are very good.
One is an over the counter mouthwash, Orajel anti-bacterial bleeding gum rinse, that claims to help prevent and treat bleeding gums associated with gingivitis.
The other is a prescriiption oral rinse called chlorhexidine gluconate 0.12% oral rinse. It was prescribed for my son by the oral surgeon who removed his wisdom teeth to rince his open wounds 4 times daily for the first 3 days before the surgery and the start again 24 hours after the surgery to prevent infection. Both seem to help him with BB.
Thanks I will try Orajel, and yes I have always been very intrigued about chlorhexidine because I have heard how it is the best mouthwash in getting rid of bb. But I always read that after prolonged use it stains your teeth brown. Maybe using it for a short time doesnt have that effect. That is so great he was instructed to take these mouthwashes during that time. When I was 17, 10 yrs ago I never received any instructions about mouthwash during my wisdom teeth removal and I developed a horrible bad taste in my mouth because I was so young and didn't know what I could and couldnt do.
Thanks for some other powerful antibacterial rinse ideas.
I had the hell-like deadly odor from my throat 9 years ago and my job was required me to speak a lot. My co.workers and partners looked at me with scary eyes after each time we worked together. I found so many "stones" - the white, yellow foul from the tonsils. I even could count them and I smelled them on my palm and I couldn't withstand my own smell..
I tried "all the way" to clean the bad breath but nothing worked. Finally, I decided to permanently remove the tonsils forever from my body through a surgery at the age 24. A month after the surgery my breath was fresh and odor free. And things was that wonderful from that day until now. I will never have to worry or think about the tonsils anymore, and of course- no bad breath.
I'm 38 and I have been dealing with the bad breath issue since I was 23. I never new what the cause was until 5 years ago when I couldn't stand the taste and smell that came out of my mouth anymore and went in with some dental tools that included a flashlight. When I pulled the flaps near my tonsils and lit that area up, I couldn't believe my eyes! I started removing "stones" one after the other. I spent nearly 3 hours in the bathroom doing this. When I was finally done it was as if a miracle happened. I washed out my mouth and my mouth tasted great. Happy, couldn't explain how I felt. I can finally speak to people without a care of turning them away or watching cover their nose. Unfortunately, this didn't last very long. Eventually they built up again.. and again... and again.
By this time, it had been my 5th year living in Orlando, Fl having moved from NYC and I developed allergies and chronic sinusitis with a deviated septum. I ended up going to an ENT and had an Endoscopy surgery done. Before and after the surgery I complained to the Dr. about my tonsillitis issue and even had him do an CT scan to see if something was stuck in my throat (I'm sure most people know that feeling). They found nothing. And he said "It is normal. Just rinse it off with a waterpik". So I went ahead and bought a waterpik and a nasal sinus irrigation system. Although it helped, it is nothing but a temporary fix. After researching this problem I found out that a lot of people have them (tonsils) removed and all of their issues were gone, some including: halitosis, post nasal drip, allergies and stuffy nose. I thought, WOW! THAT'S WHAT I'LL DO!!! YES! THIS NIGHTMARE CAN FINALLY BE OVER.
After begging my ENT doctor to remove my tonsils, this man had the nerve to tell me no. That procedure isn't done anymore because it's too painful for adults. I'm thinking. . f!@# pain! Pain is watching someone take steps back away from you when you talk. Pain is being and a friends gathering for some drinks and overhearing someone saying "his breath stinks" while you're in the bathroom. Pain is afraid to kiss your wife, watching her frustration and feeling undesired because you won't kiss her.
I thought this Doctor is nuts. But I was even crazier for listening to him and dealing with this issue for 5 years after learning the cause of the problem.
I finally went to a different ENT for a second opinion. I spoke nothing of my problem and just let him do his thing to see what he finds. Immediately after he opened my mouth and flashed the light in there he realized that I had a problem. He called it crypto-something..lol. He also realized that I had GERD (which I already new I had and was self medicating with Zantac. However, my 1st ENT never even mentioned that issue to me). So I then started to tell him my issues and how I had a different ENT DR. and I wanted my tonsils removed and ow he wouldn't do it. This new Doctor said "yes, it is very painful in adults". He recommended I rinse and gargle with Cepacol, peroxide and water for 3 months until my follow up. He said if it doesn't improve we will have to remove them. I figured it is protocol since I'm a new patient and decided if I endured this issue for 2 decades I can surely handle 3 months. I've been doing the peroxide mixture way before this new Doctor recommended it and it helps a little. My tonsils are so bad that once a month I go through what I now call "my oral period", where my left tonsil actually leaks a white pus and for nearly 2 weeks I get in there with "my tools" and little by little squeeze it out. It-is-disgusting!
For now, I'm convinced that this new Doctor will solve this issue.
I had my tonsils removed as a child, but one crypt was missed so I still deal with tonsil stones even though I don't have tonsils. It's gross and frustrating and only recently did I realize I'm not the only person on earth who shines a flash light down their throat in search of nasty stinking pockets of tonsil stones!
I have the long plastic syringes with a bulb on the end that I use to clean my tonsils out. If anyone would like to purchase them from me I have some extras. They have been a godsend for cleaning out those lithes.
They are individually packaged. And you can actually fill them with liquid and squeeze it right into the crevices and those lithes will come out! It creates the perfect pressure and does not hurt or anything!
I wish I remember where I got them? But I have 50 of them. So far the very first one I opened up 3 years ago still works! I keep one in my travel bag, my make up bag, my purse. I just love these things. I will sell only 20 of them because I don't know if I can ever get them again.
Three for $15.00 and that will include shipping. Just let me know. Whoever answers first.
I have been tempted just to get my tonsils out too! I hate these lithes with a passion!
I have noticed a huge decrease in them while I was oil pulling with coconut oil. But I just get too last to do that every day. After reading all this though, I am going to start oil pulling again.
Hello! I have been dealing with this same issue for a while now! Yes I do plan on getting my tonsils removed, but right now is just not a good time. I know the recovery is going to take about a month. Do you still have those syringes that are slim enough to fit in the crypts and wash the stones out? I need my life back lol If so, please let me know! Thank you
Hi! I discovered a year ago that the cause of the awful "dragon breath" I have suffered with for years, was due to tonsil stones! I haven't had a problem since, as I routinely gargle with salt water and Therabreath. However, my 9 year old daughter also has them and she is not able to dig them out of her throat very easily...the bulbed syringes you describe might be what we need for her...do you still have some you are willing to sell? Please let know...Thanks! - Jennifer
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These stones are created from bacteria which usually get hung up in mucus from sinuses or acid reflux phlym. I just bought a ORIGINAL Tonsillolith Removal Tool - from ebay. It's a simple tool that has a light that shines in the back of your throat. it allows you to move the folds of your tonsils around to check and dig out the stones. you should also see why you have so much bateria. I take an immune system pill and a bb pill from andrew lessman on hsn. that has helped alot. i still have a lot of mucus which i just ordered the therabreath tonsil stone kit - from therabreath.com. you may say wow this is a lot but I am 45 yrs old attractive woman who has never been married, why because my breath stinks. i am sink of the nose holding and offers of gum. i am sick of not being able to laugh out loud.
I developed MCS over the last year or so and through all kinds of detoxing discovered oil pulling here.
After oil pulling for a few days I got an excruciating tooth ache. I wasn't even sure what tooth it was from. The dentist ex-rays revealed nothing, so i went home with pain killers. i made the oil pulling connection and know about healing reactions so i stopped pulling and the pain went away. I had a dentist appointment a few weeks later so started oil pulling again hoping to heal any problem. This time the pain was so bad that i was eating pain killers like candy.
The dentist replaced two fillings thinking it may have been a recent loosening. He replaced the back tooth filling and i begged him to replace the next one, just in case. I had a terrible reaction to the Novocaine (my eye blurred and I shook, but that's a different story). So i waited a while and started OP sesame oil and peppermint every other day, no pain. Then, every day and suddenly i noticed a white puss bubble next to my back tooth. It was frightening. There was no pain, so i drained it and swished with H2o2, Redmond's salt and peppermint. It went away. About a week later, it came back-same deal. Now it has come back every 3-7 days and i am oil pulling twice a day. It doesnt hurt and I feel fine, but it is awful to have infection in your mouth. BTW, That is the spot where I had my wisdom tooth pulled.
I don't have the $ for a cavitation surgery and frankly i am not convinced that this OP isn't an amazingly strong detox to suck this infection from way down in my jaw.
I am thinking I will give it a while and then go to my regular insurance paid dentist (who I am not crazy about)and let him do what regular dentists do in this situation. Your experience and advice is welcome!
After all the pain you've attributed to oil pulling its amazing you're still so dedicated. Remember, though, to try other oils if your not getting good results with what you're using. I've got to wonder if the peppermint has anything to do with it but just a guess.
The jury is still out (at least around here) on whether oil pulling "pulls" toxins and other stuff from the body. But it's pretty clear that all types of germs in the mouth can be dealt with by oil pulling. Abscesses, tooth infections, gum disease can be dramatically treated with OP. In fact all by yours truly at one point or another.
If you try mixing in as many drops of oregano oil as you can tolerate with your usual oil, you'll find infections get dealt with much quicker. Oregano oil is a powerful germ killer. But keep it all up - I'd put big bucks on daily oil pulling doing more for your oral health than any number of dentist visits at the end of the day.
Yes, OP can draw out an infection. This has been posted many many times. Have you thought about Oil of Oregano instead of the peppermint? It's a powerful antibiotic. Use for 10 days only though, just like an antibiotic.
Just think about it. If you had that infection lingering in your gums, most likely you were introducing it to the rest of your system, without even knowing you were doing so. That heavy duty bacteria could cause so many other problems systemically.
Now you are pulling it out and spitting out the bacteria.
All I can say is....good for you!!
I know others on here that have had infections, and I'm hoping they will come around and talk about their experiences as well.
Thanks for the response. Detoxing is so eye opening. No one knew i had a gum infection. Doing coffee enemas revealed all of the parasites and some worms that i had. To look at me, I am perfectly healthy! Then suddenly I had Multiple Chemical Sensitivity...
When My MCS was at its worst (it is 85% better now) I had elbow pains and eye twitching and my lungs have had issues, 1 asthma attack and general lungs not feeling great.. I looked up tooth meridian and elbow and lungs and sinus are on that tooth area.
so interesting. I am counting on this gum infection ending soon...
Hi! My names Tyler. I'd like to know more about this as I apparently have an infection in one of my teeth close to the front. And it sucks cause my dream is to be an actor. I've been oil pulling with clove oil and oregano oil for about a week now. And I feel like it's healing it right up. Any suggestions? I'm going to do everything I need to do to avoid a rc. Please feel free to pm me or reply back on here. Hope to hear back from you soon. Thank you so much.
"No, if it could no one would bother having surgery."
Only if everyone knew about all the benefits of oil pulling would that be true. And we all know that couldn't be further from the truth. OP pulls all kinds of nasty stuff out of the mouth.
Anyone with root canals should be oil pulling - and using a few drops of oregano oil at least once a week. I even rely on pulling oregano to absorb throughout my body and kill germs instead of antibiotics when I'm sick. It works faster, better, and is WAY healthier than oral antibiotics.
So if the oregano can absorb throughout the body, you know anything in the mouth/jaw area would absorb much more. Try it and see.
Also oil pulling with a few drops of Grape fruit seed extract or Thyme oil, oregano or even tree oil ( just a couple drops) is amazing. I used both sesame oil and organic virgin coconut oil white makes the whites of your eyes super white. I have a root canal from a few years back that does not look infected on the xrays but hurts I the dentist said there is only one way to know is take it out. I know this has been making me deathly ill so I'm going to a holistic dentist who will refer me to his oral surgeon the the oral surgeon will NOT do a root canal he will do an implant I want this done as fast as they can do it.
Thank you for your story. I think it goes to show you that when you have a hidden tooth infection that is making your sick and the dentists cannot locate it, but you know it is a hidden dental infection the best way is figure out where the hidden tooth infection is start oil pulling today and it become very clear very fast which tooth is infected.
In response to what to do for the infection I would book ASAP with a biological /holistic dentist and get ozone injections into the site it will kill all infection on contact and ozone will kill all infection at the site One shot with my city dentist in 2013 cost 45. that is cheap just have it done, my dentist suggest four visits to be sure he killed the infection, I guess some people like laser to disinfect but I don't know enough about it
My names Tyler. I'd like to know more about this as I apparently have an infection in one of my teeth close to the front. And it sucks cause my dream is to be an actor. Please feel free to pm me or reply back on here. Hope to hear back from you soon. Thank you so much.
Last year out of no where I had a BAD toothache and since I have no insurance, the cheapest thing to do was to pay to have the tooth pulled. I ended up having dry socket which is the most excruciating pain I've ever felt...I've always said I'd have my children over before I'd choose to have another tooth pulled.
Well just recently (about 5 days ago) and suddenly the gum in between two of my teeth became swollen. It wasn't painful or uncomfortable it just felt weird, at first. Each day it would swell more, it became red, uncomfortable, painful to touch and bled while brushing.
I had no clue what it might be so I went online and happened upon oil pulling specifically with coconut oil. I became excited because I have an abundance of different extra virgin, unrefined, cold pressed, organic oils on hand and from what I read, I should get some instant relief. I did it for the first time yesterday and immediately after I spit out the oil one of my teeth next to the swollen gum began throbbing like crazy and the swollen gum was redder and bigger. I also developed a hard swelling under the throbbing tooth and a less intense ache down the length of entire gum under the tooth. Needless to say I did end up taking 2 Tylenol w/codeine just so I could sleep.
I'm hoping I had the reaction because the act of OP helps pull the infection to the surface. I will continue for a few days to see what happens. I swished with peroxide today before the OP but it is still painful and swollen (never a fever). I'm going to switch up the oil to sesame and add some tea tree essential oil and see if that helps. I will buy some oregano oil to try out as well.
Any thoughts on what you think may have been going on with my tooth before I started OP, and why you think I had the reaction after I OP are very much appreciated!
Sorry to hear that your not well. I believe that OP draws poisons /toxins to the surface and as it surfaces we are to react according. In my case I had huge boil that had to be drained. When I oil pull and get lump or bumps in my mouth .
I decide if it something serious go straight to dentist. In my case, I used essential oils and DMSO or MSM and DMSO on the area that is lumpy. I might even hold really warm salt water in my mouth, since salt is amazing to drawing infections, poisons to the surface and also has some antibiotic properties
I'm having gum disease for over a year and I'm starting to look for natural remedies, as doctors give no solution to the problem...
I'd like to try oil pulling (sesame oil + 2 drops of oregano oil), but I have a question:
How long should I test whether oil pulling is working or not? I tried oil pulling 1-2 times with coconut oil during my gum disease, but it made my inflammation a bit worse*. Now I'd like to try with sesame and oregano oil.
*before oil pulling the redness was only in between the teeth, after oil pulling it appeared also below the down teeth
Hey there. It is not advisable to continue oil pulling if you have inflammation. The oil might further infect your gums, it would be better if you see your dentist first, treat the gum problem and proceed if you still want to, with the oil pulling. It does not work for everyone though.
Hmm, I read a lot on the internet and it seems that maaany people use OP to fight their gingivitis. OP is even listed as one of the best methods to fight gum inflammation!
I've been to many dentists.. About five periodontists, my inflammation lasts over a year... That's why I'm looking for natural cures - doctors can't find the cause.
Huh, all it did was make my fillings fall out and couple of my crowns break off, 20 years later. Saw a bit of detoxing, but nothing worth the thousands of dollars the dental industry has made off me dealing with the loss of teeth. It obviously sucks the toxins out of the Amalgam and although it takes a while weakens them and allows in dental decay, which then ruins your teeth.
I brush,rinse,scrape and my breath still stinks.I don't even need to open my mouth,the smell also comes from my nose.
I get all kinds of reactions and unpleasant comments from people anytime I'm in public.Even my family cover their noses.It has been going on since I was about 13 years old.Now I'm 28.In high school,everyone knew I was the stink of the school;now I'm the stink of my neighborhood.
I can't really smell it most of the time but,I hear people saying that I smelt like fart or faeces.One time I met a guy.He was a cop and I liked him.He came to see me once and he sat close to me.I was thinking about the smell while talking to him.After he left,I never heard from him again.I know it's because of the smell.Another time I was in a taxi with 4 other passengers,and when I got off,I heard the man saying that I stunk up the car.Two years ago I got some guts and took a short course.Two class mates behind me whispered to each other "What kind of smell is that?"
When I was about 22 years old I heard some guys laughing and one of them said that my tongue had died in my mouth.I've heard all the dirty comments so many times and I feel so hurt.I'm so embarrassed. Just last week I over heard my landlord telling someone how badly I smelt.Every time I walk by,they comment on my odor and they don't care if I can hear it.
I don't have anyone to talk to about this.One time I tried to ask my sister if I smelt and she ignored me.I knew she was embarrassed.
For years I've seen many dentist and doctors.I have used my all savings to do expensive x rays and other test with no results.I even removed my tonsils out. I think I have no life.I can't go to work smelling like fart.I don't drive so I need to take public taxi and sit among other people.This is very uncomfortable for both me and them.It hurts so much,when I sleep I wish not to wake up.I don't wish to die but there are days when I think about it.
I've quit seeing he doctors because they all do and say the same things, "seek mental health and brush your teeth" which is ridiculous;I don't need anyone to tell me to brush my teeth.
The smell is constant,so does anyone know of anything that could mask the smell even temporarily for the times I need to go out in public? I need to work,so I need to know what to do to hide the smell.I think it's coming from my intestines and stomach.
Please help me someone. I'm ired of crying and my head hurts.
your story touched me, im so sorry your going through this, you sound really nice, no one deserves this, i hate that we cant goto the doctors and get help like everyone else can when theyre sick! i mean, its so unfair!!!!!!!!!!! i too suffer from bad breath and body odour, i have fecal odour and tonsil stones... iv only recently found out how to get rid of my body odour and im working as hard as i can to get it under control, if you think you have fecal body odour let me know and ill try and help you, i know of a few things that can help it or cure it, different causes for different people.
with my tonsil stones the smell comes from the back of the throat so, people can smell it when my mouths closed, it so embarassing i too wish to fall asleep and never awake... what do we do? really, ill do anything these days to help the bad breath and body odour sufferers...
:( it makes me want to cry, how cruel some people can be... im over it and i wish i could help you some more, all i know is that therabreath has good results... mpdela might be able to help you, if its blood born bad breath...she knows alot about tmau and bad breath. GOODLUCK babe keep your head up :)
Surfer27 here. How are you? Well, i read your post and in it, you mentioned possibly being able to help people out, who have Fecal Body Odor? Before I get into my story, I just wanted to ask you a couple of questions. First, when did you first notice you body smelling like feces? Second, how long have you had it for? Lastly, did going to the doctor and having them run tests on you, help you in finding out an answer for your fecal body odor? Okay, now that I have asked my questions, i wanted to share with you my story. Okay, well it happened about 4 years ago, in January of 2006. I don't know if when I first had fecal body odor, if it was the result of my sphincter weakening, but when I noticed, I was having a second bowel movement shortly after that, I went outside for a cigarette and noticed a fecal odor about me. Now, in regards to the cigarette smoking, I have been a smoker for 13 yrs now, since I started at 15 yrs old. This odor from that day on, became very severe and overpowering, due to possibly having coffee the night before my problem. Now, prior to all of this happening, I had never smelled a feces type odor coming off my body from my anus. Weird huh, how this all happened!! Anyways, back to the story. So, when I started noticing this fecal body odor, I started freaking out. I was like,"what's going on with my body?" is what I was thinking and from there, began my journey to trying different products out, to reduce the severity of the fecal body odor. Here below is what I have tried, from day 1 up to these last few years:
grapefruit seed abstract pills
wheatgrass juice supplements
pro m internal deoderizer
peppermint caps for irritable bowel syndrome
hemorrhoid creams and suppositories
anal fistuala homeopathic liquids
oil of oregano
goldenseal root caps
doubling the dose of vitamin c
tried humaworm caps for parasites
burdock root caps
emu oil for skin health externally and internally
tried all bunches of body lotions
water enema's for the bowel problems
chlorella for heavy metals in my body and lastly,
candida yeast support capsules.
All of these products haven't helped me at all!!! As you can see from the list, I have tried at least 50 different products and I am no further ahead, in terms of getting better, then I was from day 1.
Here are the tests, I have had doctors check me for:
Bloodwork for STD's which came back negative, thank the Lord.
I am thinking, my next step would be to see a chinese herbalist, but I don't know if you've had a chance yourself to do that. Have you? Have you had some success with dealing with a chinese herbalist at all? Could you describe to me, all about your fecal body odor symptoms and what you did, to get some relief? If you can get back to me asap on this, that'd be great!! Thankyou very much. Take care and God bless you.
hi i am currently having a problem with my body odor as well and before i tell you my story i wanted to make sure you are able to give good advice on trying to stop this i am currently in high school and everyday i know i smell bad because people say it behind my back i recently had people say "do you smell that" " yeah i think it's him" "he smells " and they walked away i go through this every day i want to send a good impression to everyone and prove that i do not smell but i do not know what to do i shower in the morning, use deodorant, axe, and, cologne but nothing works please help i feel like crying
Hey buddy what's going on I read your posts and you were saying how you found a way to control the fecal body odor well I'm going through the same thing if we could talk and discuss what u did that worked for you that would be great give me a call at 267 251 6556
There was a news video recently about a teacher with the same problem. If someone can post it here that would be great. I might be able to find it by tomorrow. If I remember correctly the condition was caused by a lack of an enzyme or something similar...
Thanks Ceces, Anaclagon and #89866 for your response. I feel so much better just knowing that there are people who can relate to what I am going through. At the same time,it's sad that so many people like myself are also suffering from bad odour.
I just came up on this site a few days ago.I wish I knew of it sooner.
#89866,can you recall if that woman who lacked enzyme had gotten over the odour problem?
Sorry to hear all the horrible encounters you've had with people who are so ignorant and sometimes down-right cruel. It seems that you perceive your odor to be very strong. It helps determine how to best manage your odor if you would try to describe it, what it smells like, and what part(s) of your body it's coming from. This is why ceces asks you if you think it's fecal odor. In my blog, http://mpdela.blogspot.com/,
one of the short polls asks the sufferers the type of odor they have, fecal, fish, gas, garbage, sewage, rotten egg, or other. This helps in understanding the causes and possible protocol to follow to reduce or possibly even eliminate it.
Ceces, would you please share with us what measures you've taken to reduce or eliminate your fecal odor? We would all be very interested in hearing your story.
I'm glad you decided to write. It's nice to hear from you.
Do you know if your mother-in-law's asthma is related to allergies, a cold/virus/bacterial infection, or do you not know?
My son's extreme body odor seems to be very much equal to his allergy levels. He had extreme odor for 8 years, from the age of 14 thru 21, with life-threatening allergies. Actually, his allergist said that it was a miracle that he had survived all these years with his immune system that way. They were able to do allergy shots, but those were limited to environmental allergies (trees, grasses, molds, dust mites, etc) but not foods. He had asthma only as a child from birth when he had mild bad breath, smelly feet, and sometimes underarm odor. His ashtma went away around the age of 7-8 years. But his allergies only got very bad when his odor began. Now that his odor is almost 100% gone most of the time, his allergies seem to have been gone for the most part. He still thinks he might be allergic to nuts, but I don't think he's tried them recently.
I was just wondering if you've noticed any correlation between your MIL's asthma with bad breath and allergies (if it's not caused by infection).
How are you? The odor comes from my mouth and especially from my nose. It smells fecal. I believe the smell does irritate other people's throat and noses, as they do cough and sneeze excessively when they are around me.In fact they don't need to be close to me before they start to cough, sneeze and scratch their throats;you know how you can smell food cooking from a distance?
Hi lasco, I am fine, thanks. ... ... As you can see in one of the polls in my blog entitled ’bloodborne BO: what odors are your concerns?’ Fecal odor seems to be the one most sufferers believe they have. I podyrf a 3 part research of the very few scientific articles I could find regarding fecal body odor, and they date back to 1972 and 1973. There really isn’t much out there regarding this, can you believe that? It was documented back then that a patient presented with fecal BO, and I’m sure there were many before and after him too, and this poll indicates this ...
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I am new to this forum. I am dealing with the same issue. My own situation started 7 1/2 years ago and I am tired and stressed out about it. I live at home with my father and brother and they claim they do not smell any thing. But people around me start coughing. You see about 7 1/2 years ago, while living with my father, Iwas exposed to roach spray. My father sprayed it around around the stove, because at the time we were dealing with a roach infestation and my father would turn all of the stoves on to heat up the place because our building would not provide enough heat. Any way, it went off like a defogger through out whole apartment. Iwas exposed to it and had to move out because of it. This happened back in November 2007. So I moved out and lived with a a friend. Now smell went from smelling like roach spray to smelling like a strong chemical odor. At that time I just got hired to start a new job and i quit because I felt that I had a strong odor. My friend told me that she did not smell anything,but when I moved in she said that I did smell like roach spray. I stayed with her for five months until I moved out and went to live with my cousin in North Carolina. She felt that she could not help me and I had to stay with family. So I went to North Carolina and with my cousin down there. Big mistake, when I first got there I was convinced that I had a body odor because everything I used from perfumes to deodorant smelled wierd on me. So when I got to North Carolina, my cousin claimed that I did not have a body odor. Which I did not believe her. So I started taking this substance called cellfood. I wanted it to help speed up my process to make me better. I was suppose to use it as instructed but instead, I started rubbing it on my hair ingesting it without putting droplets in juice or water, on my nails and a little on my body. I made the situation worse instead of better and I started smelling like crap. I felt like my body was over load with bacteria. I felt so horrible and disgusting. I just made the situation worse then it was before. My cousin started talking about me behind my back. She started saying that I smell, even her kids started talking about me. When I worked at target down there everybody started talking about me. People tried to avoid coming to my lane at times. It was humilating for me. After staying with her for seven months, I moved back to New York and lived with another friend in Brooklyn. I came back smelling worse then I had before. I started smelling like dog poop. The one thing I could not understand was that the cellfood even changed the texture of my blood. I can not even get my hair to smell good. Anyway living in Brooklyn, people talked about me like crazy. Even when i took a shower or had my period it had a horrible odor. I couldn't even get a job without feeling like people will talk about me. So things did not work out for me in Brooklyn so I had to move back home to my father's place in the Bronx, where this all began. Long story short, I still live with my father and I still smell bad some days are bad then other days. I tried to committ suicide twice and both times I was in the hospital, I stunk up the floor. Sometimes I smell like gas sometimes, i smell like something I am not sure of its in my breathe, hair, groin, and underarm. Please help,
Smiley84, hi it's Surfer27 here. I haven't been on this health board, in over a year atleast, but if you get this message from me, let's chat okay. Ohh by the way, did you mention you were a boy or girl, because if you are a girl, during their times of the month, it can make things worse for them. Anyways, if you wanna chat, feel free to email me, at: firstname.lastname@example.org . hope too hear back from you and take care. Bye for now.
Hey everyone am Krystal for everyone going through am sorry that this happening because I know how it could feel. Being going through this hell for amost a year now. The worst nightmare ever! How matter how much I shower or wash my hair there is no change. The smell is so strong that I could see people covering there nose as far 50 feet away.
It's hard to keep a job and impossible to have a social life.. I think the smell is coming from my scalp n face... I have been to at least 10 dermatologist. None of the shampoo or a topical ointment helped. I feel trapped and want to continue my life I'm only 25 years. Because of this it's hard to go outside, i'm beginning to wonder if it's an internal problem so I start a candida deit and colon cleanse... It's been only a week so far.
I feel your pain as I too have suffered from the exact symptoms that you've mentioned for most of my adult life (I'm 44). As you described, it appears that everyone in my city knows about my problem. It has gotten so bad that due to depression, I have now become obese (208 lbs) and dread going out of the house due to the comments that I receive regarding my breath.
For years, I would drive myself crazy trying to figure out what could be causing my bad breath. I have seen numerous doctors (both traditional and alternative) to no avail. The only clue that I received was that my food wasn't digesting.
I saw one practitioner who prescribed HCL (hydrochloric acid). It was explained to me that I should take an additional pill every day with meals until I felt a burning sensation. I got up to taking nine pills with meals without burning and this seemed to help with digestion and the bad breath.
However, for some reason, the bad breath returned. I'm not sure if I should have continued to increase the dosage, but I was afraid to do so since I was already taking so many pills.
I'm now in the process of changing my diet (candida) and eating smaller meals (I am also going to try to not eat after 8:00pm). I am also taking digestive enzymes along with the HCL and Dr. Schulze 's Intestinal Formula #1.
I’m hoping that this new regime will cover both digestion and elimination.
In addition, I make sure I floss and I gargle with peroxide and mouthwash (mixed with a little water).
I’m not going to let this issue take my life away, and I would be happy to give you my email address if you need someone to share in your frustration.
If anyone has any other suggestions, please pass them on.
I sent you a private message with my email address.But just incase you did not get it,yes I would very much like to keep in touch with you.This is too hard to keep to myself.
And to mpdela and others,it's not that I have been selfish and not sharing what has been going on. I bought some things to try including Oxypowder cleanse,charcoal,chlorophyll,mms etc.I can't find them in my country so I had to order from overseas.They are taking for ever to deliver! Anyhow I will let you know the results.
I really feel for you and i know what a little of what your going through. I experienced it to a degree at the end of high school. I worked out it was mainly due to drinking too much milk at the time. anyway the point of my message is that i've done a lot of research (btw im a med student with a Science degree so i know where to look) and i found 1 article on a 7yr old who had a breath problem. it was found that her gut was producing weird gases which she was excreting in her breath due to too many antibiotics. She was given 4 months worth of mutaflor, a probiotic containing E.Coli, not your usual lactobacillus yoghurt based ones. After 4 months they tested the gases and she was cured. Follow-up at 7years old showed it hadn't returned. If your confident that its not an oral bacteria issue this might be worth a try. i don't think mutaflor is available in the U.S but it can be bought from Germany. Mpdela did some research when i posted about it a few months ago.
Good luck with everything
Hi Laus286 I read your post response to "am I going to stink forever" and you mentioned u were a medical student and gave the asker a good response. I was wondering, that product you had mentioned, Mutaflor from Germany, is it any good for people with underarm problems. I don't have TMA , I've been tested of that and came out negative. I was given Drysol for the excessive sweating, but it's been a while and I still smell. Well let me know if that product helps with body odor from the armpits. Thanks
i am currently in the same position i'm am in high school and i want people to feel comfortable around me but when someone is behind me or if i pass by i hear them making comments like "he stinks" or "he always smells" i'm really embarrassed and i am pretty sensitive so it ruins my day. now i know some people say that you should use different soap and try mot eating fatty or greesy foods which i do and take showers a lot but even when i do that i still hear it, can someone please help me i can't ask my family because they will only laugh or think i'm mental or something(i can't ask personal questions) and i do not see my doctor that often at all its to embarrassing to ask someone face to face, someone please help i'm losing sleep over this just knowing i'm going to hear the same mean comments behind my back, i feel bad for my friends but respect them since none of them say anything about it when i'm with them but i know everyone i'm near or around knows that i smell, i even try distancing me away from every one as much as possible but the halls are so crowded everyone is near me and i know they can smell it(it literally makes me wanna cry )i need some serious help or i'm going to lose it, i already feel depressed enougn about my looks but i don't want to have everyone suffer from my bad odors even though i shower in the morning,wear clean clothes, wear deodorant, axe, and cologne, but none of ot seems to stop the smell there are sometimes where even i can smell my self what should i do? :(
. in high school i smelled like fecal matter due to the fact that i was lactose interarent and didnt know. whatwas the cause. i feel your pain especially since there all kinds of people in high school some nice most mean or not caring .even though most people wont be accepting of it and will want to end the convo quickly and nver want to talk to u again . but u will find a small gruop of friends who help u through it . until u find the cause of the smell
Well if its your breath than maybe you might have a chest infection coupled with some dehydration. I know the smell of that breath and sometimes smokers get it, only when their immune system is somehow lowered. And this infection for some reason, takes a long time to get rid of. Alot of older people have this bad breath symptom but it either comes from the stomach or the lungs (sometimes from teeth and gums)I would first try rinsing with Hydrogen Peroxide to see just how infected your mouth is...the moment it foams up massively then you got alot of bacteria..if not so much then its not your mouth. I do remember that the hospitals had this breathing thing which looked like an inhaler and the patient was supposed to breath out into it real hard and do it several times. Supposedly, this helped the lungs expectorate the building mucus and bacteria living within it. This was done for older patients who literally sat or layed around for months or weeks with not much exercise within a hospitoal ward. The human body was meant to be moving around constantly expectorating mucus and being naturally swalloed to the digestive system. You might want to look into the H202 therapy listed in this same site. It strengthens the immune system and the costs are very little. And...it cleans out the stomach of all bacteria (unfortunately it sometimes cleans out the good ones to..so after the therapy of bout 20 days..people just rotate down and then stop and then take pro-biotics to put back the good bacteria)
first I must say I am not an English speaker . sorry if I write the words wrong or Failure to observe the rules of grammar.
since 8 years ago I have bb and bo and I don’t know the reason of this but the main problem for me is that when my bladder is full I start smell like Cigarette.did anyone has this problem or someone knows sth useful about this shit.
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That happening to me i stink so bad like what your sayong i meed help and im 12 i started stinking when i was 10 3 years idk what to do im searchinh this up cause people sniff when they see me and they cover there nose i take shower every single dayy i did everything and i still stik help me out plz it look like im going to stinl forever but i dont want to,help me plz
During a root canal treatment, the dentist will numb the tooth or area using local or injectable anesthetic, depending on the anxiety level as well as pain tolerance of the patient. A piece of rubber is slipped over the tooth to isolate it from neighboring teeth. The tooth is then drilled and a hole created through which the dentist will be able to remove infected or decayed material from inside the tooth. The tooth is then flushed with antiseptic solution.
The tooth will be refilled with a sealer paste or rubber compound, and the original drill hole is filled using typical dental filler materials. At this time, additional restoration of the tooth may be initiated, or a crown fitted to help protect the tooth as well as preventing it from breaking and help restore full function.
If you experience these things then your dentist did the root canal treatment.
I am 64 YO and my teeth are 100% sound - no cavities or fillings but I do see the gum receding on one tooth.
I take many medicines incl, hydrocodone, lisinopril, levothyroxine, allopurinol, neuronton and Cymbalta. I get a REALLY Bad dry mouth from all these meds. In researching what to do about the dry mouth, I came across OP and I have been doing it for about 2 weeks. I use coconut oil and I hope that in addition to my dry mouth OP will eventually help with some of my other health problems. I follow the OP with brushing my teeth with salt and baking soda but I have ordered some xylitol and hope to make a homemade toothpaste.
Here is my question: I take a handful of medicines at about 5:30 am. Then I get up at about 8:00 or so and would like to do OP then. Is there any problem that I have taken meds and maybe a piece of fruit only 2 1/2 hours earlier?
I am especially concerned that I reduce the effectiveness of either the OP the meds or both.
Hi! I dont have reports for a cure or anything, but I need your help, I really dont know what to do. My dentist has said before that I have a dying tooth and one day I would need a root canal, I was and still am against it and within last week i noticed an area above the dying tooth starting to ache and swell a bit, especially when i touched it. After 5-6 days I decided I needed to do something as I suspected it was either a tooth abscess or an infection. To try and combat this, I oil pulled with coconut oil. The first day it didnt swell as much and there were not much changes, however, the next day (which is today) when i OP and rinsed with salt water, i think i saw a small little hole thing draining out the pus, a fistula was it called? That didnt feel too bad, but then throughout the day it started getting worse, especially after I ate some durian (im thinking as the durian is pretty heaty, it might have triggered something?) so as soon as I got home, I OP again and rinsed with salt water after. I took a nap and woke up 2 hours later to find the swelling has seemingly doubled in size. Is this normal? I know some people have bad healing reactions and I was wondering whether this was one of them. Please help, I really dont know what to do.
Oil pulling may have it's merits, but I would think in your case it would aggravate the tooth that's sore.
No way to know if this would help the infection, but you might try Colloidal silver. Just put a couple of ounces in your mouth, swish it around for a while. Repeat often. You will know within a day if it feels better. That doesn't mean it will heal. If not the next thing I have heard about for dental infections is the laser.
If you have it removed, be sure to seek out a holistic type dentist.
The best preventative for teeth cleaning besides brushing is a waterpik filled with water with a couple of ounces of H202.
My last dental visit the dentist came in to check my teeth and remarked "I don't know what you are doing, but keep it up"
The hygenist used to spend time measuring gaps between the gums, and teeth. Now there aren't any. That's where the problems begin.
Hi, there. I have a question, have you done oil pulling before or is this going to be your first time?
If this is your first time, you might want to consider asking your dentist if you are ready to do such thing as there could be side effects if you are not used to it. Not to mention allergic reactions.
Not sure if you would/could help with this. I'm hoping oil-pulling could save my tooth...
I had a root canal on tooth #5 about 16 months ago. Ever since then I had had very sensitive gum all over mouth and receding gum issue (worse than before).
During teeth cleaning in March, dentist noticed pocket of 6mm around the tooth, so she referred me to see a periodontist.
Periodontist found tooth #5 has 5-6mm pocket, bleeding and class 1 mobility, and thought tooth# 5 might be fractured.
So periodontist wants to do a Perioscopy on tooth #5 to visualize the tooth surface, if fracture is found then a complete extraction, bone graft and possible implant placement. If no fracture is found, then they will complete scaling and place local antibiotics.
Does this recommendation make sense to you? Are there any alternatives? Anything I can do to stabilize and save the loose tooth? I heard about oil-pulling - would it help get rid of bacteria so I won't even need to go back to periodontist for perioscopy on tooth #5 and scaling and all that?
Anything you could suggest/recommend would be greatly appreciated.
I use ORA MD instead of toothpaste and mouthwash. I use Spry for mouthwash and chew Xylitol gum and mints. All of this has helped my gum problems. You might want to look into them and see if you think it would help you.
My DH had the same problem with pockets and infection. The antibiotics applied to the teeth did not help. Dentist wanted to pull and do an implant or bridge on one tooth. Even if done, infection would remain. He already had gum surgery 10 yrs ago and wasn't about to do it again.
I made him start OP. He did this 2x/day for 20 min each time. He uses Extra-Virgin Coconut Oil and adds 2 drops of Oil of Oregano to each pull. I buy the super strength Oreganol P73 by North American Herb & Spice Co.
After 2 months he revisited the dentist and there was a marked improvement. The bad breath that came from either his gums or tooth IS GONE! If you don't have a water pick type of device then find a good one, buy it and use it every day. Our retired dentist recommended Hydrofloss and I like it, but any type will do, just make sure you use it and know HOW to use it. I also use Coral White toothpaste. It has none of the regular junk in it and NO glycerin to coat your teeth. You can also make you own. Remond's Salt Company also started making toothpaste with none of the junk too, so check them out.
A good book on the subject is Oil Pulling by Dr. Bruce Fife.
I started OP every day and noticed improvement in my health. I used to have this weird sensation when I took a deep breath, like there was fluid in there. Well that is completely gone. I also have more energy.
Try the OP first and see what happens, just do it EVERY DAY without fail and let us know what happens. You may see some detox reactions but don't give up. Good luck!
As a side note, in spite of all the diet, exercise and food restrictions, my DH could NOT get his blood Sugar lower than 120-130 range. NOW, regardless of what he eats and no matter if he exercises or not, his blood Sugar remains in the 80's and 90's. I think it is because of the tooth infections running through his body that no longer is there, another benefit of Oil Pulling.
Continue to OP. Find the best oil that works for YOU. Don't become discouraged if you have detox reactions. Read up on this subject until you become an expert.
As far as the deep cleaning, I can't really suggest either way, it is a personal decision except to say IMHO I don't think it would hurt to start "clean" with all that "stuff" out of your gums. As long as you trust the dentist or hygienist doing the cleaning.
Yes, I have heard about he root canal'ed teeth getting infected and if I knew then what I know now I would NEVER have had 3 root canals. I had my Amalgams removed 25+ years ago and replaced with composites. 3 of those teeth on different occasions remained sensitive and I did not know it at the time but that is normal and would have most likely gone away. My dentist was as clueless as I was so he suggested the root canals. Long story short, I don't think I would personally remove the teeth. I have been OP for 2-3 months and it has helped me already but your experience will be different and so will your detox reactions. I don;t have many, some itching but it goes away. My DH had the trots for several days but he was OP 2x-3x/day and whatever was in there is now gone and so is his high blood Sugar numbers.
And the other poster, Mourne is correct about watching your eating patterns. Certain foods contribute to bacteria etc. both in the mouth and through the body. COQ10 is good to add to your daily OP too, it helps with gum regrowth (takes a LONG time) as well as absorption through the mouth. I used to buy it in liquid form but they stopped making it so you can try to open up a softgel and use that instead. Do a search on this forum for COQ10 and you will see a lot of threads suggesting that as well as how much to use.
It's true that ubinquinol is more absorbable than regular Q10 (especially when consumed through the stomach in pill form).
But I can tell you that I used to take 400 MG's daily of high quality Ubiquinol and had nowhere near the effect of using liquid Q10 in my OP. Partially because it's all absorbed through the mouth and also because oil amplifies the effect of COQ10.
Amazon sells Vitol 200 mg liquid Q10 which works great. in fact one full dropper is 200mgs and I only take a few drops (maybe equal to 20 mgs) and really feel the effect. 200 mgs is way too much.
Thank you for the info. I read some posts on Q10 - the positive effects sound amazing... I will order and try it with OP right away.
I do watch what I eat. And always rinse mouth and with waterpic with salt water after eating.
I think I'll postpone my visit back to the periodontist. All that "cleaning" is just going to irritate the gum even more...I think. You're right, I wouldn't want the tooth removed either. So it's best just cancel the appointment and continue with OP and see if the gum recession issue improves.
As per your suggestion, I just got my niacin today. I just took 500 mg. and was waiting for the flush. Well, it's here. I'm a ten year veteran of hot flashes, and this is definately different. How long should this last? How do I know if I took too much?
The niacinimide is the non flushing B3. It will be labelled as such on the bottle.
It has been my experience that the degree of flushing is an indication of the degree of niacin deficiency in the body. The niacin deficiency may be a result of a high toxin load in the body. The flushing subsides as the niacin levels increase in the body. For those who are chronically toxic it may not be unusual to have to use 1500 mg a day, of niacin for a year, as I had to.
It is adviseable to gradually increase the niacin levels. Dr. Max Gerson and L.Ron Hubbard in their detox protocols use high amounts of niacin, so it is one of the key vitamins for detoxification, although not the only one.
check out your eating patterns as well, OP is only one side of the surface.... LOTS of fat soluble vitamins and K2 are foundamental, go low on sugars and a good CoQ10 intake is also recommended.
I think you can fix it.. I'm a firm believer of self healing and dealing with dental issues naturally, of course this is a personal opinion.
Just used for the first time 250mg. of full flush niacin, not on an empty stomach. I had 3 1/2 hours of redness andn itching-burning--with the last 1 1/2 hour of chills. Also stomach is queasy. Any suggestions?
I can't do this every day. Does it get better? Should I start out slower? Lower the dosage?
I read the article you suggested, and really want to do this.
Can I open the capsule and mix with anything to make it more gradual?
Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated.
I too am glad I discovered the benefits of full-flush niacin. I wouldn't want to take the no-flush kind, I like the burn. :-) Actually it is much milder these days; it seems the intensity of the flush is due to the release of homocysteine, and if your homocysteine levels are down, the flush lessens.
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I suggest you talk to your dentist, most of them do panoramic x-ray to check the teeth and if he siad you need tooth extraction then go for it. You don't need to worry about the extraction you will be more worried if you will just leave it like that. In the case of my brother he just neglected this problem and much worst happen most of his teeth were infected. Since we cannot afford to have extraction and implants in U.S and I know you already know why. We had this option having it done abroad. We were referred by this medical tourism company named PlacidWay to one of the clinic in Mexico and there my brother had his extraction and dental implants. Just to give you an overview it took him 6 months to heal before we went back for the implants.
About 17 years ago, I had a dentist insist that my upper left molar be extracted. It has since regrown 60 percent of a new tooth and is one of the healthiest teeth that I have despite only being about 60 percent there.
Tooth regrowth along with bone regrowth and many other regrowth functions is dependent on hormones and electric fields.
I took pregnenalone and DHEA during that time, along with minerals and occasional zapping of the area. Those are the main precursors of almost every hormone made in the body. Also, Melatonin is beneficial.
Also took certain other things associated with general health, such as Milk Thistle, NAC, ALA, and full flush Niacin.
Unfortunately, mine kept getting infected. I delayed the pullings as long as possible, trying to get them to regrow with EFT's help.
I had no luck. One of my EFT failures. But the stroke apparently killed some of the nerves that would have been necessary for that, and I wasn't aware at the time, so I had to get them pulled. :(
Glad you had a better outcome. :)
Just curious as to how long you were oil pulling before the extraction? You said your gums were not in good shape. Do you feel the pulling helped them? I've been pulling for about two months now, and would like your opinion about results-if any. Thanks
well i think i started oil pulling too late for it to make a difference, plus my molar was cracked, so it had to come out.
i have not oil pulled consistently for a long period of time to really be able to say how much difference it would make - but i remember that when i oil pulled, my mouth felt so noticeably "clean"... and when i stopped oil pulling, no amount of brushing etc. made me feel the same level of cleanliness, so that's why i would like to go back to oil pulling.
I went for a routine dental cleaning two days ago. That was about six to seven weeks in. The hygenist said it looked slightly better, and for sure not worse--refering to my loose tooth.
I'm planning to continue. After I told her what I was doing (and of course she didn't know what it was, albeit she's not a skeptic) I had her measure my lower pockets. I go again in three months, and she is going to compare the results.
Personally I think something is happening. The presure on the lower loose tooth seems much relieved most of the time. I have been using the coconut oil,now that I have found a way to keep it warmish. I put the jar on a glass plate on the radiator, and it is ready whenever I want.I had a hard time melting it in my mouth--but the coconut seems to be whitening ever so slightly.
Mr. Cuddly will probably know about your issue. If he doesn't respond, click on his name to get all of his insight. He's informed, humorous and friendly from what I gather.
You wang, wittle wabbit? (Sorry couldn't resist). I've been away for a few days, but the first time I saw your post I didn't answer because I just didn't know the answer.
When I had a tooth extracted, I was told not to do anything that puts pressure in the mouth like sucking on a straw, etc for a few days after. Oil pulling would definitely fits that description. Instead of waiting 3 days to pull, I pulled the second day but without any sucking action - just kind of pushing the oil around my mouth.
Since your post is already 4 days old, you're probably in the clear anyway, but still be very gentle with the swishing for a week or two after just to be safe.
The oregano oil is good for killing bacteria on contact, but not something you want to do for more than a week or two at a time. It IS kind of harsh to use repeatedly and takes the good bacteria with the bad. Not a problem in your current situation, but it wouldn't hurt to go cold turkey for a week here and there. And when you're back to normal only use it if/when you have infections.
hehe glad to meet someone else with an overly cute name ;-)
thanks for your advice. i was also concerned because they also did a bone graft operation - supposed to help my bone grow back. would it be safe to oil pull without jeopardizing the process? :-\
may i ask why you had to get your tooth extracted?
i was devastated when they told me they had to extract my molar :-( and tried to keep it as long as i could, but in the end it had to come out.. it seemed as if my gums were rejecting it no matter what, and after the molar was taken out they said it was because it was cracked that the gums were rejecting it... the crack never showed on x-rays...
You're right about the cute name, but I'm a guy so I really have no excuse LOL. I couldn't say for sure about the graft since I'm not a dentist, but oil pulling is usually very harmless for most things. And having less harmful bacteria in the area could only help.
Long story about the extraction. I lost a filling a number of years ago. Oil pulling kept things in order so well that I was lazy about seeing a dentist about it - and very busy with business travel at the time. But it was a dumb idea not to take care of it while it still could have been crowned. Eventually the shell of a tooth broke and the only choices left were root canal (which was recommended), extraction or implant.
I've always been against root canals AND implants. I probably would have gotten a denture if it were the near the front, but fortunately not.
Overall if your dentist says its safe to start swishing oil around in your mouth after an operation, do it for sure. It's hard to imagine getting rid of harmful bacteria and strengthening your gums could be anything but helpful.
You're right - sometimes dentists are unavoidable. Especially to fix previous dental work gone bad. If you were able to have your kids regularly OPing since a young age, I doubt they'd ever need to see a dentist unless they were in some kind of accident with broken teeth, etc.
Sadly my childhood dentist not only decided to fill every tooth in my mouth with mercury, but needing more payments on the Rolls, decided to fill them a second time. Dentists have since told me how unnecessary and unethical that was, but all you can do is shrug.
Don't forget to post for your good friends at the oil pulling forum after your visit to the dentist!
I told an old neighbor of mine about oil pulling at a dinner party at his house once - and of course he ridiculed me mercilessly in front of everyone. Then he calls me a few month later to tell me that all his level 4 (pockets) had come down to level 3's or 2's, 3's to 2's or 1, and his shocked oral surgeon actually canceled his appointment for gum surgery. I asked him how he did it and he said he purchased some flax seed oil after I told him about it and had been pulling every day since.
Talk about mixed feelings in his case, but we all love hearing these kind of stories. Good luck!
Hello, I think it has been awhile since you posted but I am hoping you may somehow get this message. I had a lower molar extracted two days ago. It went wekk, performed by dentist who is holistic minded. I am managing pain with 800mg ibuprofen alternated with 5 mg perkaset every four hours. My question is about infection_ I do not want to use antibiotics. I did nothing the first two days but I took a few drops of oregano oil under tongue today, also drank about six drops in water. Also took 1/2 tsp Colloidal Silver this morning ( although I don't know how potent since bottle is a fee years old. My question is this... I won't actually do oil pulli g but would it hurt to mix a little oregano oil with coconut oil and just drop it on to the extraction site, or will this some how interfere with the bone grafting material or healing. The site looks pretty good albeit a bit red but I want to be proactive. My dentist prescribed the antibiotics just in case but she said she was not to concerned as she removes all traces of infection during extraction. My post-extraction care sheet says no pulling or swishing but again I wouldn't do that, I would just put the drops on it and wait a minute or two before letting it drip out of my mouth. Thank in advance for anyone's help.
RSD, Reflex Sympathetic Dystrophy, intense and often spreading nerve pain, may likely be caused by a suite of factors that combine into the perfect storm of nerve antagonism. Factory farms that churn out de-mineralized foods from nitrogen-burned soils is one aspect. Animal fats derived from livestock and poultry fed inflammatory Omega-6 corn and soy versus pain quenching Omega-3 grass fed animals is another. High Omega-6 corn and soy oils permeate the food supply. Broken fats and oils from high heat processing like frying, or hydrogenation as with peanut butter and margarine, are like throwing a starving dog a rubber bone--totally useless nutritionally, and certainly not nerve tissue food.
Water supplies tainted with agricultural contamination of nitrate fertilizers block oxygen to the red corpuscles, and nitrates in meats help slowly starve tissue of life-giving oxygen. Chlorine in water supplies assaults thyroid function, and fluoride accelerates calcium deposits that may trigger micro-spasms and attendant nerve pain. Air filled with gasoline exhaust fumes heavy with oxidizer additives enhance free radical damage. Latex tire particles create a highly sensitizing allergen. Mercury in fish and fluorescent lights inhibits endocrine functioning. Electromagnetic radiation from electronics induces cell portals to open and spill out vitamins and minerals and let in toxins.
Antibiotic use creates GI tracts overgrown with as much as two pounds of Candida/yeast. And all that yeast is gobbling up your magnesium; and releasing the most toxic chemical created in the body--acetaldehyde. ACETALDEHYDE eats tissue, including nerve tissue, and cannot be detoxified with anything but pantothenic acid or B-5, and not just B-5, but the metabolized form, PANTETHINE, and that's hard to do when the guts are being ravaged by Candida that can root through the gut wall in Leaky Gut Syndrome. As RSD is often caused by some physical trauma or surgery treated with antibiotics, this may be one culprit. Kill the yeast with Caprylic Acid or the stronger Undecylenic Acid; neutralize toxic ACETALDEHYDE with PANTETHINE. PANTETHINE also lowers cholesterol.
Magnesium is the relaxation mineral. Calcium is the contraction mineral. Micro-spasms that can spawn a cascade of sympathetic nerve pain cannot be quenched if the magnesium is not present either because absent from the food, leaking out of cells, or stolen by systemic Candida/yeast. First create a firewall against magnesium theft and acetaldehyde production with yeast killers like Caprylic/Undecylenic Acid; and PANTETHINE that forms Master Coenzyme A that is the only thing that wipes out this ravaging chemical by-product of Candida/yeast. Heal Candida-ravaged guts and nerve, even brain, tissue with R-Lipoic Acid, a powerful anti-oxidant that quenches inflammation.
Feed the nerves and nervous system. Adrenal Collapse can be induced with cortico-steroid anesthetics from surgery, and women are particularly susceptible. Adrenal Collapse is generally from stress and stimulants like nicotine and caffeine and emotional pressure, and can be quickly reversed with DHEA, an over-the-counter hormone supplement. The Keto-7 form is best used by women as it will not form other hormones like testosterone. DHEA regulates Essential Fatty Acids and minerals, the very stuff of nerve tissue. To feed the adrenals, and nerve tissue, eat good fats and oils, avoiding corn and soy oil in favor of raw olive oil or borage seed oil--apply both topically to affected areas for transdermal absorption. Trace minerals can be restored with kelp mixed into Sea Salt . Celery and Celery juice can keep calcium from depositing in cells that are irritated and using the calcium as a mineral patch, very dangerous as triggering more micro-spasm and sympathetic nerve response. Apples and apple cider vinegar can replace lost magnesium and stop the spasm cycle.
Traumatic injury can effect spinal cord circulation, and this may be enhanced with inositol. Damaged tissue can lose integrity in the presence of nitrates , and virtually all fast food deli meats have nitrates. Tissue trauma can also trigger low blood pressure as the body's way of preventing blood loss, so that hurt tissue turns into a circulatory backwater. Dehydrated nerve tissue can "rub" instead of "slide" and trigger that cascade of pain. Mucinex, a proprietary form of guiafenesin, an herbal hydrator, is a time-release preparation but it is blocked by salicylates, so that means virtually no fruits except pears; or herbs; or aspirin can be used with it. Drink plenty of clean water as the Mucinex will drive moisture into tissue. MSM crystals provide cell-friendly sulphur to reactivate damaged tissue to release toxins and uptake nutrients. Infrared therapy with a high quality light source, like Pain-X, will restore circulation and oxygenation (if nitrates are filtered out of water and left out of meats).
One passive postural exercise that aids spinal cord circulation and proper musculo-skeletal conformation is to lay on one's back in bed or on the floor with the thighs straight up and calves lifted parallel to the ground up on a pile of pillows, padded milk crate, or on a chair or couch. This will take the torque out of the torso by leveling shoulders and hips. Twenty minutes a day is all that is needed.
Oxygen, pH, and hydration are key to radiant health. Oxygen-starved tissue that has no proper mineral pH buffers and workable water transport can lead to one possible scenario causing RSD: Tissue trauma in already compromised tissue overloads the adrenals and aggravates mineral imbalances that can lead to acid pH cells seeking a buffer that prompts the laying down of "trash" calcium, the contraction mineral, that induces micro-spasms, further de-oxygenation and decreased hydration, and an attendant cascade of nerve pain as calcium deposits build in proximity to sensitive nerve endings. Recent migraine research has shown that calcium deposits in proximity to nasal nerves can trigger violent migraine headaches that can be relieved with the removal of these deposits in out-patient surgery. Celery, containing pure sodium (not blood pressure-raising sodium chloride as in salt) will remove "trash" calcium; and magnesium, will keep calcium in solution, not building up in proximity to nerves. May our Creator grant us miracles of healing and restore our hearts and souls, bodies and minds, and our embattled environment.
I knew this would be the only place with the crucial information i needed to solve something that's actually more irritating than my wife. I have had every problem on your post and then some, the AMMafia does a "great"job of making you sick and coming back for another dose of the uncure. I seem to be ranting but everyone should have access to the correct treatment needed to keep themselves well. Thank you for help and I will post again with results.
I have been greatly benefited by the discussion on root canal drawbacks. root canal is out of question now.
2 follow up questions:
(1) Ozone therapy (to sterilize decayed tooth) and do temporary filling and some supplementation to re-mineralize infected tooth: In the long run does it work or this itself becomes source of infection?
(2) Zirconium implant (if decide to extract the decayed tooth): Do they too become source of mild infection in the long run?
If a tooth is dead, you should get rid of it. As for implants, they can also be a permanent source of infection. Natural teeth aren't attached directly to the bone, they are attached by a membrane of ligaments, this membrane also acts as a bacterial seal for the bone. Implants don't have this, so potentially allow bacteria from the mouth to travel deep into the bone.
While it is true that implants could play a part in infection. It remains that there must be an infection present at the time of surgery. Otherwise, the materials used in the abutment and crown have no ability to allow bacteria to either travel through or continue to exist. In contrast to a tooth, dead tooth or root canal tooth etc.
About a month ago I was experiencing throbbing pain in one of my back molars. The pain radiated through my gums and the rest of my teeth, sometimes spreading to my jaw. It was unbearable and made eating impossible. The tooth now has a big decayed hole in it. I could literally poke it with a toothpick and reach my gums through the tooth.
About 6 months ago the same tooth needed a filling but the decay was not that bad. I held it off because I didn't want to opt for the cheaper mercury option but I could not afford the composite filling. The tooth never bothered me up until a month ago.
I went to the dentist and he x-rayed my teeth. He said that it was infected but the infection had not gone too deep into the nerve yet I needed a root canal anyway. He also said I needed a crown. At this point the pain was unbearable and I was taking painkillers to numb the pain (which would at times disappear). I went to another dentist for a second opinion two weeks ago and got a similar answer.
I have now been dabbing the area with oregano oil for the past week and have not changed my diet. While the tooth is still sensitive and tender, the pain has almost disappeared. It no longer feels inflamed or swollen, and I can sleep through the night without being disturbed by the discomfort. Does this sound like the infection has cleared up? When I look closely at my tooth it seems to have partially discolored with a grey-ish tint streak on its edge, but I'm concerned that the infection has now spread to the nerve.
I know I should revisit the dentist for another check up but I don't want to be told that I still need a root canal when the tooth is potentially healing.
I would read about all the issues with root canal.
I certainly would never kill a tooth and seal it in my mouth. Many docs believe root canals cause the immune system to wear down over time and then lead to serious sickness-lyme-cancer
Before any dental materials are placed permanently in you jaw you want to do a blood test to see if your are allergic-its cheap-Clifford test is great.
Also with the crown-don't have 2 different metals in jaw. Basic science-two metals in saline solution makes a battery two inches from brain
Well, I don't like root canals, but I have several, from the time before I was educated on this. If you do a search on them at the oil pulling form, you will find testimonials that oil pulling can do a lot to prevent the problems with them.
When people are told that they need a root canal treatment,they usually think about pain.However, the pain they feel is caused by an infection in the tooth,not by root canal treatment.A root canal is done to eliminate that pain.The root canal procedure itself is painless.A local anesthetic numbs the tooth and the surrounding area.Many people may be afraid to have a root canal because they are anxious about having dental work done. Dentists can provide calming medicines, such as nitrous oxide.
Do not leave a dead tooth in your mouth-creates festering infection that is terrible for your health.
hundreds of doctors across the world think a root canals is as unhealthy as smoking.
mercola dot com has some good articles on this
Your right, I once had a root canal and had nothing but problems with it and it was at that time I developed neuralgia.
I have had to live with debilitating neuralgia for years and I often wonder if it was the root canal that may have had something to do with it. The tooth has long gone now, I went to another dentist and he took it out but the neuralgia has not gone. I also get terrible pain in my head, I have to use freezer packs across my face and head it gets so bad. The nerve pain stems from my teeth and moves up through the top side of my nose across my eye and into my head, the pain makes me cry sometimes it is so bad. I have to use freezer packs at night in bed too, usually about two to three times a week.
I've had the same thing happen to me, but my gum line receded and I will most likely have the tooth extracted. I've been pulling close to 10 months now, using different oils, adding oil of oregano and cayenne. I also have to have gum surgery, as the infection has made my gum recede, and the infertion got into a good tooth, and I may have to have work on that as well. I rode it out, and for me, it was totally not worth it. Something to consider for your friend.
people post about how pharmaceutical antibiotics don't get the bad stuff out-- they just smother it and hide it in the body (or something like that.)
I would suggest he get off the antibiotics as quickly as possible and do a strong dosing schedule of oil of oregano. Oil pulling with coconut oil and oregano oil will also pull out the infection.
He should also megadose with vitamin C to get his immune system boosted-- tell him to do the bowel tolerance test of taking 2 grams of Vitamin C every half hour until he has diarreah. he has then reached bowel tolerance and should take everday the amount that is just slightly below bowel tolerance. Buffered vitamin C is the best according to most on the forums, but have him look at the Vita C forum and there's information on there for him.
I would also suggest he look into Iodine supplementation. I'm only now researching it (hoping to start sunday). For some reason, that I can't remember, I think this is a good idea for his situation with infection but I can't remember which post or why talked about the healing powers of Iodine over viruses, bacteria and such.
ok, I know this isn’t OP(sorry, Molly),(in my defense I am a long-time OP-er:) but, I’ve been putting 4-6 drops of Lugol’s in my waterpik...my inspiration here: ... ... ... http://iodine4health.com/research/venturi_2005_iodine_salivary_glands.doc ... ... ... ... ”Many researchers (28-31) and Wharton  reported that immunodeficiency and malnutrition in adolescence and Iodine deficiency and dental caries are associated. In 1939, Hardgrove  reported that “in his community (Fond du Lac, Wis, USA), since the beginning of administration of Iodine to prevent goitre, children have less caries. Iodine seem ... [This message is long. Retrieve the whole message]
howdy stranger, where have you been? All I can give you is my own experience. I have 4 ancient Amalgams and I've had no ill-effects from doing this..I don't know if that's because most of the mercury is long gone...I know that there are those who would argue that with me on that:)
At any rate, I use the waterpik between the teeth and at the gum line, not on the fillings...
WHERE have you been? I was just thinking about you(no lie). :)
I will have to do a test area on my face to see where I am at on the mercury, I guess. It has been about four months since I have tried to apply it to the face, may be it would not bother me at this point in time.
On a weird note...my eyes are beginning to turn blue, vanity has me lamenting this, I liked the greenies, but I guess that shows I am making some progress, eh? Who knew all that purty color was just toxins...
(mucho busio re career change. Mostly on a laptop now and lost your email, if you still have my comcast email shoot me a hello so I can re it)
Have to drive to Phoenix tonight, catch you later.
I have tried to find posts that showed oil pulling worked to cure root canal infected teeth. I have only found posts that showed it healed teeth that were still alive. Since a root canal is because the tooth root has died. The person has an unatural dead tooth being propped up in his mouth and if you research root canals and Dr. Price, his research on people with root canals -you and your friend may never opt to have a root canal done again. This is my opinion. I will never have a root canal knowing what I know now. There is a forum here on root canals cleanup. They know all about them, and would be happy to help.
I have been reading up on Weston Price's research on root canals with interest, as I have just been told that I need to have a root canal done on one of my upper molars. Is there any alternative before I go down that route? It sounds like it is inevitable that infection will result, and if you are in good health then you shouldbe able to hold off the infection form other areas of the body but that sound less than ideal. What is more I am hoping ot get pregnant again, and a) would like to be in optimal health before doing so, and b) understand that pregnancy is one of the major stressors leading to infection in a root-canal filled tooth. Help! Anyone with any suggestions? Anyone know a holistic/biological dentist operating in the Heidelberg, Germany area?!
I've been at these forums all day because I'm facing a possible root canal. I"m surprised this isn't talked about more but the very first healing protocol to having healthy teeth again, I mean the number one thing is
CHANGE YOUR DIET!!!!
Let's face it, diet is how we got into these issues with our teeth to begin with.
It's not being discussed here enough.
Bye bye all grains, bye bye all processed food, especially refined flour, and forevere more processed Sugar is dead to me.
That's the number one protocol here people.
I've been eating 2 grapefruits in addition to my normal 0 processed food diet and I think your friend should look at that.
Doctor Weston Price, the dentist who started all this alternative talk about how bad rood canals are wrote a book on diet and teeth. His theory is that diet is the cause of tooth decay and not bacteria so read that book.