I plan on completing a 40 to 60 day water fast. I have embarked on shorter fasts previously, with a maximum of 21 days. I have enough fat reserves to last me through to 60 days. I am interested in learning about what percentage of the anticipated weight loss will be from fat metabolization, as opposed to water loss. All input will be greatly appreciated.
I feel it is best to enjoy the process and not try to get into details, that probably Science will have difficult time to measure.
Fat decomposition generates also water by that process - so the two are connected. Concerning water retaining/diluting toxins - it is lost most in the first few days. Everything depends on the level of toxicity.
Also important to note is that equally important to the fat as fuel are the other nutrients that the body was supposed to store through good diet. You may run out of the latter faster than the former.
Agree with DL, totally. I would like add, 60 days is impossible on water only fast. I would plan o...
Agree with DL, totally. I would like add, 60 days is impossible on water only fast. I would plan one day at a time, and build up. It is always good to have a subliminal realistic goal, but not mull over, simply staying in the process with the acceptance that your body may ask you to stop at some point.
I have had quite a few fasts where I had to stop in a day or to into the fast. It just did not feel right.
Nutrient reserves are very important, otherwise you will go in starvation mode despite of having good fat reserves.
Expect to lose 1lb per day, initially it may be 2 lb per day with water weight.
If you have not started, eat raw plant based foods for a month and then start a fast.
i have personally been with people who have completed 40 days on water only... start there and see...
i have personally been with people who have completed 40 days on water only... start there and see where it goes... you can always do 40 days then a raw vegan diet for a month and 40 more days... we have to learn hoe to eat.. not eating is easy
it was at a fasting retreat... I saw 3 people do 40 days on water. none were obese at the start. ...
it was at a fasting retreat... I saw 3 people do 40 days on water. none were obese at the start.
at the end one had legs the size of my arms... TOTALLY emancipated. He was in his 20's spend the last 20 days of his fast in meditation all day... he was soooo skinny... it was awful. He recovered quite quickly tho... 6 months later I saw pics of him and he was all filled out. The second man also looked way too skinny. the 3rd was a female who looked ok. She started out overweight tho.. the men did not.
Yes I am back... Came home today. 3 days post surgery... they said it was really fast. Guess my juicing is working. Plenty of pain and discomfort, but its time for rest and healing. Thanks for asking. When I get the results from pathology I will let you know
This is my concern: I’m not obese. But I have quite a bit of fat on my body and would like to see ...
This is my concern: I'm not obese. But I have quite a bit of fat on my body and would like to see it off. I've researched that the body enters into a state of ketosis after all other immediate sources of energy (unused carbohydrates, glycogen in the liver, etc.) have been depleted - a state which may take a few days to enter into.
Were these mentioned individuals significantly overweight, or at the very least, had a significant body fat percentage (I would classify this at 30% and 35% for males and females, respectively)? I realize even with these stats, 40 days (much less 60) might be a stretch.
the two men were not 30%... they became emancipated.. the woman may have been around 30-35%.. she ...
the two men were not 30%... they became emancipated.. the woman may have been around 30-35%.. she looked good.... if you go on youtube I am sure people have logged in thier 40 day water fast - you can always turn it into a juice fast after day 40.... people on YT have 100day juice fast vids there
The word you want is emaciated, not ”emancipated,” which has a completely differently meaning. If...
The word you want is emaciated, not "emancipated," which has a completely differently meaning. If people really want to use fasting for weight loss, they need to lose probably 8-10 pounds below their goal weight because they'll put that back on easily with just water and food almost immediately if they are not careful.
Journey from 82.5 kg to 60 kg in about a month or so.
Hi guys, after failing and failing and failing again and again the last 2 years, i decided that this time is going to be the final time and the time that i will succeed, hence the action of posting it on the net. So my goal is to reach 60 kg down from 82.5 kg that i now am. I began a bit before this post and the way i am going to do it is by drinking water milk and coffee only and smoking cigarettes until i reach my goal of 60 kg. Nothing else, not even gums. I estimate that by the end of April at most, i will be at my desired weight goal. So this will be my journey from 82.5 kg to 60 kg in about a month or so. The reason i post it here is to, if it happens, get some support, which i think will help me a lot. I know smoking is unhealthy and i intend to quit it after i reach my goal, so please don't comment on it, if you may, i only use it to help with the food cravings - a substitute - .I will keep posting here frequently concerning my progress and especially when i reach certain milestones. As of now i stand at 82.5 kg ( i am 1.77m btw). Based on experience i will be 76.5-77kg in 6 days from now. Anyway i'll keep posting as i said and cya soon ^_^ .
It seems to me that you would be better suited to a juice fast. This provides enough nutrients to ...
It seems to me that you would be better suited to a juice fast. This provides enough nutrients to move on with daily life but also causes weight loss and detoxification. I understand that you're wanting to keep smoking as an alternative to food cravings but I have to say that this may be the best and easiest time for you to quit. If you were to go on a serious water or juice fast you could rid yourself of your nicotine addiction at the same time. With all due respect I don't think your plan sounds like a very good weight loss option. It actually would probably degrade your health. More like a crash diet. If you don't want to do a water or juice fast then just write up an eating plan with plant based foods. You'll shed weight consistently and increase your health. Just remember as in any diet, it's not so much what you do for the duration of it but how you continue afterwards. That goes double for any kind of fast.
Well i can’t go back now, as i have promised it to myself. Oh and about smoking, it is not a big d...
Well i can't go back now, as i have promised it to myself. Oh and about smoking, it is not a big deal; i started it only for the duration of this plan. I am not a smoker. Thanks for the consideration, it is just that i can't break the promise.
I agree with fijifaster 100%. This is not even a crash diet, it is a poisoning diet. ... ... Also...
I agree with fijifaster 100%. This is not even a crash diet, it is a poisoning diet.
Also please be aware that this is a forum for those who seek help with fasting with water only and those who want to help those fasting with water only. You may continue your diary on other fasting forums, but it would be unfair to those on "Fasting with water only" forum.
My thought is that if your trying to heal your body then what is the point of adding another negat...
My thought is that if your trying to heal your body then what is the point of adding another negative vice to replace another? Just doesn't seem like you'd really be doing yourself any favors.. I sure as heck wouldn't smoke that's for sure.
Health concerns when beginning extended water fast.
Hello everyone. I've struggled with bulimia for 7 years and recently with binge eating disorder as I've been unable to purge. Over the course of two years I've gained a substantial amount of weight which I was in denial about due to stressful circumstances in my life that kept me distracted. Recently I've had more time to myself and realized what damage I've done to my body. This sent me into a tailspin of straight binging for 6 weeks, consuming as much as 10,000 calories per day. When I meditate, I can FEEL this extra fat on me and it is very distressing. I want to get back to my true self - physically, spiritually, mentally. I feel like I need to do an extended fast and not eat until true hunger returns. I feel like my body is capable of this and it is my mind which tells me this is unhealthy, not realistic, etc. If I'm honest with myself, and look into my soul, I truly believe my body will not want to eat for several months. Today I am on day 3 of my fast. I've only told one person of my intensions, she is a very close friend and said how unhealthy it is and that sent me into a panic attack (I also struggle with severe anxiety). I would like some reassurance from anyone who has done an extended (longer than 30 day) water fast, that what I am attempting is realistic, acheiveable, and healthy. I am NOT trying to destroy my body or starve myself. My intensions I believe are truly good - I'm trying to heal my body and mind and feel this is something I need to do....now. I am also in college and am worried that it will interfere with my ability to concentrate/study. Has anyone done an extended fast while also working and/or going to school? Thank you.
Havn’t been to 30 but I’ve gone 14 and felt like I could have made it another week. Keep in mind I...
Havn't been to 30 but I've gone 14 and felt like I could have made it another week. Keep in mind I usually am pretty low body fat. I can tell you that your body will be fine as long as you have the reserves. You can always go over to healthpromoting.com and print off some research articles to ease your friends mind. Just remember to focus on fruits and veggies after your fast and you won't have to worry so much about gaining too much wait. If you eat healthy you're body will be the way it is meant to be!
Hi. I am currently on day 19 of a water fast. I read your post with interest because I also have a...
Hi. I am currently on day 19 of a water fast. I read your post with interest because I also have a binge eating disorder and suffer from anxiety and depression. These were factors that led me to take the drastic step of water fasting.
I stopped all medications before my fast because I was concerned with pills on an empty stomach and because I wanted to clear my system so that I could be sure of what I was feeling without mind-numbing drugs.
(I am also morbidly obese which has caused me no end of physical and emotional stress.). =(
I am encouraged to see someone with a complicated emotional and physical history embark on this type of self-healing! My only concern is that you may find the road really rocky if you try to work AND go to school while water fasting. Your fast should be as peaceful and stress-free as possible, enabling you to give your body what it needs, like lots of rest, fresh air, and quiet. Some of the detox symptoms can be pretty gnarly and may cause you to panic if you don't have the space to work through it.
Whatever you decide, try to post daily and share your journey. You will find caring, experienced advice that is sure to help!
Hey there! I completely understand your concerns. I was in the same or at least similar shoes. I’v...
Hey there! I completely understand your concerns. I was in the same or at least similar shoes. I've done several short (week long) fasts for warmup for two longer (~1month) fasts. I had a set of symptoms doctors could do nothing about (inability to sleep, headaches, brainfog, complete exhaustion, near-diabetes insulin resistance, complete impotence, etc...).
I thought fasting is bullshit, a religious activity or something similar, but a 3 week fast eliminated almost all of my symptoms and my body composition changed from 20+% fat to about 10-15 and I felt fantastic. I tried fasting only as a last resort without expecting anything from this stupid method because I wanted to die anyway. Your friend says exactly the same as anyone else would say about fasting: "it's unhealthy", "it's bullshit". Just ask average people if you want to accumulate reasons to avoid fasting.
Here is my opinion about your friend's opinion: How does she know that fasting is unhealthy? Currently Science knows nearly nothing about complex chemical mechanisms of our body, this involves normal functioning, medication, nutrition, etc... We are still just experimenting and finding ways that solve problems because we don't yet have an accurate enough map of the body. This is basically the same primitive method humans have always used. So how does your friend know that fasting is unhealthy? Has she tried it?
Basically everything you do has both harmful and beneficial effects. Your food keeps you alive and poisons you at the same time. The important thing is to choose ways where the advantages outweigh the disadvantages. Making smart investments with low risk and high reward like in any other area of life. Most people avoid risks all the time even if it's very low. It is no different with fasting. A long fast is very difficult and during the fast you may feel terrible but I think not so many people have the experience one can have on the first few days of refeeding, especially if fasting cured some severe symptoms.
Fasting, just like anything else is also harmful. Stressed body, high cortisol, weakness, fatigue, etc... But the gifts you get at the end of the fast by far outweigh the difficulties and disadvantages.
Btw, what do you risk by trying it? Do you use your friends opinion as an excuse to avoid trying something difficult?
Evaluate your risks. If they are low or easy to avoid then definitely try fasting.
In my opinion a two week long fast is doable with light work (eg. In working wit a computer in an ...
In my opinion a two week long fast is doable with light work (eg. In working wit a computer in an office) but more than two weeks is a very-very bad idea. I've made that mistake.
Currently I'm in the middle of the 4. week of my second fast with no major problems because I don't work at all, I'm relaxing or doing whatever I want at home. I think I could do even 5 weeks this way, we'll see...
Binge eating: it's a habit and habits are difficult to change. I can also get into a spiral where I consume the contents of the fridge until it's empty. :-) It takes me about two weeks to shed this habit if I fall to the trap. I've got out of this several times by simply not keeping food at home and buying only what is necessary for that day. This way I skipped my breakfast that made me even less greedy during the rest of the day and I've realised that I'm usually not even hungry in the morning. I think unconditionally eating in the morning is just a habit and mental pleasure for most people.
For me losing fat was far from being the best gift from fasting (compared to eliminating my illness) but it was still a huge boost. I remember that I had some bacon on my belly and the bottom of my back and they were bouncing while I was running. :-P I'm far from being anorexic, I love eating, but I have to say that being skinny or having a lean body is just superior both mentally and physically when it comes to athletic performance. I've tried both settings within a single month to be able to make a comparison.
Sorry for spamming your thread but I have some other thoughts that may worth mentioning. ... ... ...
Sorry for spamming your thread but I have some other thoughts that may worth mentioning.
Your friend told that fasting is unhealthy. What about eating? Look at your body, what eating has done to it? So is eating unhealthy? Eating kills!!! Don't eat anymore! :-)
Anything can be unhealthy if used unproperly including eating and fasting. A remedy becomes poison if used unproperly.
Long fasts (3 or more weeks) are difficult to perform and can put heavy mental and physical stress on you. People do this usually to heal searious problems (like my terrible hormonal imbalances). If your goal is only losing weight than you can choose much lighter alternatives. Anyway, a long fast can not be sustained forever and it is good to lose at most about 15-20kgs.
Weigh loss is fastest in the first two weeks of the fast, I would take advantage of that. On the other hand you can make extremely long fasts and lose weigh by drinking juices. Of course low calorie, mostly veggie juices, not the full-of-sugar fruit juices. Using some apples and carrots sometimes to add a bit of sweetness is ok. You can alternate fasting and juicing periods to make weigh loss even faster if you want but you can go just with pure green veggie juicing. By juicing you can avoid the extreme fatigue that is involved with long fasts, you can fast for a very long period to lose a lot of weight, and you can even do some light exercises to keep yourself fit.
After losing weigh: If you return to your previous diet you gain back your bacon in no time. Eating less or not eating is obviously not a sustainable solution. Here is how to change your diet: Look for foods that have high volume/calorie ratio. These foods stuff your belly, you can eat any amount from them, still add little calories. Look for veggie dishes, salads, roasted veggies (yummm). You would be surprised how many ways you can combine and season/flavour/prepare them.Replace most of your refined Sugar based sweets with fruit based snacks. Don't misunderstand me, I'm not asking you to become vegan. I'm just asking you to replace at least 50-80% of your food intake to healthy stuff and eat whatever you want in the rest of your diet. Go and eat a McDonald's menu sometimes. Go to the cinema and crunch buttery popcorn with cola. Go to a sweet shop and eat candies. Eat a fatty pizza. But not all the time. A rule of thumb for me is eating 0 or 1 crappy meal per day. On top of that I'm moderately active (2-3 light training per week and several kilometres of walk per day). This way I haven't gained back the terrible fat mass I had and still, I can eat any amount - of course from the right foods.
What if you couldn't fast until hunger returns, can you continue after a few days' break?
I have 24 days left for water fasting until I have to meet up with friends and family so most probably I'll have to break it by then. I read through many posts and found that for some real hunger did not return after 21 or even 30 days, although I did see some say their tongue cleared after 21 days but all the same, they had not experienced real hunger return just yet.
I initially intended to do this for fat loss reasons, but later I became very much interested in its detox benefits too.
My question is if I ended this fast before hunger returns, or even before the symptoms clear up and refeed, can I expect to be able to complete the process on the next fast? I suppose the toxins in my body will be a little less than before the first one?
And also, I intend to drink a few liters of both spring water and Chinese tea like Oolong, Pu'erh and green tea. I hope they wouldn't greatly diminish the effectiveness of detoxing though. or would they?
ShadowMist124, ... ... You can refeed whenever you want to and redo the fast after you have had e...
You can refeed whenever you want to and redo the fast after you have had equal number of days to refeed as many days of your fast. You will gain/ benefit no matter how long a fast you do. Sometimes tongue becomes pink before true hunger returns and vice versa. In any case fast should be broken in any case when true hunger returns.
I am concerned about your plan to break your fast when you meet friends, the pressure to eat may make you eat wrong foods and too much food. If it was only a few day fast it would have been ok, but you are fasting for 24 days so receding has to be very slow and with juices only.
Please do not drink anything but water during your fast, it is not ok to drink teas. You cannot put anything in your mouth, no toothpaste, mouth washes, nothing.