I am researching people who have claimed to be cured by MS or atleast in complete remission so I can build a presentation for my family in the event of gaining support for helping to put my mother on a thorough cleansing program.
So far I have manage to compile a list people I have found online.
Debra D Kaiser - remove Amalgam fillings + chelation + ozone therapy symptom free 2 years
Jacque C. Rigg - diet + supplements + mind power
Nancy Delise - Colloidal Silver symptom free 2 years
Gina Kopera - fasting + diet + exercise + cayenne symptom free 4 years
Lisa Cochran - remove Amalgam fillings symptom free after 10 days
Dale Humpherys - diet + supplements + injections symptom free 2 years
Roger mcdougall - diet + supplements condition improve after 4 years treatment
Jean-Pierre Bély - Grotto of Lourdes 1 day miracle cure
Donna Carver - water fast cleanse 3 weeks 93% symptom free
Ken Presner - remove amalgam fillings
Dermott Oconner - remove amalgam fillings, diet, supplement, positive mind training - 1 year
Linda Brocato - remove amalgam fillings MS symptom free
Robert Cartland - Symptoms improved
If anybody else knows of anyone, please add to this list. It will help to encourage others to consider any of these treatments.
I know Ken Presner was. He swears by his Ultimate Zapper. I can't say about the rest, but believe me this names were hard to find. If you do a google search for them + Muliple sclerosis you might be able to find out.
Thank you very much for the information you provided in the list. I have a friend who just diagnosed for MS. His right leg started to get numb and stopped working in three days. Today is his fourth day in the hospital.
The doctors first guess was a brain stroke but then after two or three MRIs they are now confident he has MS.
Your list provided a very useful information for me. I will try some of those things the patients in your list used and then will share the results with you. I think he might have a 50% chance to get cured or get better. Let us pray for all those who have MS or any other disease. Insha'Allah they will all get cured!
I hope everyone who knows someone who had MS and got cured will add to this list. It might help.
i had thought for a long time that Colloidal Silver would be effective but never got a confirmation on that till now. this is good, because CS doubles for Iodine in the body by performing many of iodine's extrathyroid functions like immune system enhancement and tissue repair.
i am not surpised about diet. i think the Iodine protocol and eating, wearing, and swishing some quality oils is all it would take. avoidance of mercury and fluoride is essential as well.
I have found noone claiming cure by use of iodine. Whats more, Max Gerson who cured cancer in 50+ patient suffered from Iodine overdose. I would just recommend being wary about using excess iodine. Hulda Clark inclines all diseases are a combination of pollution and parasites. It would make sense, since all these cases claiming cures have used remedies that would kill parasites in the body. All except for the Lourdes miracle cure.
Thanks for asking. Of course this has been a big experiment for me (as most people) but I have been on different forms of Iodine since Feb. I started out with what was available to me at the time and that was Atomidine. I started with one drop a day in water for a week with weekends off. Each week I would up the dosage by one drop. I did detox even on one drop, so it was good I took it very slow. I then tried the correct protocol of Lugol's brand iodine. At first I detoxed just like before and then it stopped. Like before I started with one drop and worked up with weekends off. I later had one side effect (apparently not a common one) of edema, I'm not sure if it was the Lugol's or the salt water part of the protocol so I stopped using Lugol's and moved on to detoxified iodine. I am currently doing great at 4 drops in a glass of water in the morning with weekends off. Detoxified Iodine is made with Asian Kelp in an alcohol base.
I hope that answers your questions. I'm still experimenting and learning. 48124
I failed to mention one of the strange side effects of taking the detoxified iodine. The first 2-3 days I had vibrational type of sensation in my legs, feet and hands. I'm not sure why because none of the others affected me that way. Perhaps one day we will understand all of this but until then I will be happy just feeling good and having energy. 48124
My friend Mark has been taking a glyconutrient called G*********n for a year and a half and his brain lesions are disappearing. His Doctor thought it was the new meds but he quit taking them a long time ago. He has had MS for 30 years and was in a wheel chair but now can get out of it. He says for a person in as serious condition as he was in try it for 3 months before you give up. At 3 months he stopped wetting himself and was able to get out of the wheelchair. The link is http://www.G*********n.com
If you email me I can see if Mark wouldn't mind personally emailing you or phoning you.
I agree. This looks good. Another great ingredient in this product is the arabinogalactin. It is an immune modulator. You don't want to boost your immune system when you have MS as it seems to be an auto immune disorder. I know people who just take the arabino... but I like the combination of these ingredients.
One of the readers in the forum asked to contact my friend. I thought I would post what Mark wrote.
This is Mark T...... I have been diagnosed with MS for a little over 18 years and am thrilled to help You. Unlike most of the rest of the folks out there, trying to make money on folks who really need help, I just do it because I know how devastating the effects of MS can really be. I feel as if, in 16 years I went from being "Hero" to "Zero" to my family and friends. I simply wish I had met someone like me 10 years ago. In just 1½ years of using the "G*********n", I have gone from a crippled old man in a wheelchair, with "ED" and optic neuritis so bad I couldn't use the computer, to a real man again that is now running his own company that, by the way has nothing to do with MS or Glyconutrients.
I will forward You about 10 E-Mails, some with Links in them, that I found very helpful and encouraging.
Due to the dynamic nature of MS be sure to follow up on these claims. I read a very inspiring story of a woman who claimed to "Cure" MS in her book. I was so excited I called her to find out how she was doing (this was 4 years after the book was published) She stated in her book she was not using any disease modifying drugs traditionally used by neurologists. She was using chelation from amalgrams, Cleansing the bowel,liver and kidneys. she tried Bee Venom Therapy with some results and diet and nutrition. All great ideas and great health practices. After I called her she disclosed that because of the findings on an MRI and worsening symptoms after her book was published she is now using a disease modifyimg drug. I was pretty heartbroken to hear that and I was also pretty pissed as an MS Patient that this "Cure" was published without merit. How many other hopless MS patients have read this with a belief that this will cure MS. There are so many factors to consider with this very complicated illness. I will not point you her way however I did just read a book by Ann Boroch called Healing Multiple Sclerosis I have yet to check her out but it might help your mother God bless
thanks for the information Just out of interest what was the book called so I know not to make too much a deal of it? I am open to possibilities but not niaive that a claim is automatically a cure. However, I have come across a significant number of claims coming from chelation / parasite cleansing, and strict diet control therapies. This could be something and then again it might not. But the amount is overwhelming. I have seen no other remedies to be claimed as much to be as affective, and believe me I researched for years. Either way, whether these processes are cures or not, there is enough proof to suggest removing Amalgam fillings and root canals is certainly a necessity in order to reach optimum health.
This list I have produced could all be bogus as I have not actually met any of these people. I have emailed with several in order to get confirmation of atleast their existence.I would love someone to step forward and offer a visit and I will personally go to visit them, even if they live on the opposite side of the world.
Hi thats perfectly ok. thanks again for the post. I think I once browsed that book in a book shop and didn't pay it much mind. I think its because it gives an idea about the right kind of therapies but doesn't go into scientific detail with encouraging testimonials, tests and results for more than one person like some other books on the subject do. It seems it doesn't have such good reviews in Amazon. Still I admire her efforts. To be broken down into some petty critics about it being BS is just below human intellect.
I have been travelling and don't have all my books with me but here are some I know off by heart due to their quality of content.
NUTRITION AND DIGESTION
Our Earth, Our Cure by Raymond Dextreit
The Natural Remedy Bible by John Lust and Michael Tierra
Optimum Nutrition Bible by Patrick Holford
Good Gut Healing: The No-Nonsense Guide to Bowel and Digestive Disorders by Kathryn Marsden
A Cancer Therapy: Results of Fifty Cases and the Cure of Advanced Cancer by Max Gerson
Guess What Came to Dinner: Parasites and Your Health
The Clay Cure
Cures That Work - Jane Pleshette
Hi im so excited. I thought i'd type in has anybody else cured MS and this website came up. I thought i'd let you people know that I think that I am number 11!
I completely changed my lifestyle dietry wise because my previous diet was a shocker! All of that has changed. No more rubbish very limited sugar,no preservitives/colours,no processed food and also a bowl or more of salad everyday and supplements.
Fixed my gut.I had leaky gut and candida of the gut.
I have never taken any MS medications. Now try and tell me that it is a coincedence that I have had no syptoms in over 3 and a half years. My nueroligist gave me a clean bill of health 3 months ago. Only long term time will tell but I think I have done it!
I have had MS for almost 10 years. I grew up with a mother afflicted by ms, heavily handicaped, and thought life wasn't worth living after my diagnosis. The first few years were the hardest (so far ) with relapses every 10 months or so. I always felt almost normal in between execpt that I was always dizzie. I was able to work and take care of my children ( by myself ) but always felt tired . I then started seing a homeopath every 6 weeks for about 14 months. It felt like I was in a psycotherapy session ! We discussed everything that affected my life and health and went as far back as I could remember. I had told her that I did not beleive in homeopathy and she said that it was perfect because se said that that it was not a grey zone. When it works , its obvious and when the treatment does not work , it's also obvious. We then try something else. I am happy to say that I have not had any symptoms of ms in almost 7 years. I ran my first 1/2 marathon last fall and keep up the running. I eat well but nothing special. My neurologist told me that I had perfect results in the different tests he performed on me. I will have an MRI at the end of the month and can'T wait for the results !
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Date: Sat, 23 Mar 2002 23:01:55 -0800 (PST)
Subject: Re: [mscured] juicing & Gerson Therapy
--- Brad Mitchell wrote:
When we were getting everything
> together to have my wife start the Gerson therapy, I
> called and spoke with the clinic. When I asked them
> about their results with MS patients, they told me
> that not one person has healed from MS through the
> Gerson therapy.
I don't think there is any one thing that is a cure
for MS. I think there are a lot of things that a
person with MS can do that will help improve their
health. This includes the Gerson therapy, amalgam
removal (in some cases, because some MS patients have
little or no amalgam), special diets (the Gerson diet
eliminates dairy, gluten, and other things that are
bad for MS), detoxification,anti-oxidants, vitamin and
mineral supplementation, various cleanses, and many
None of these things individually are a cure-all when
used alone, but when used in combination they will all
help move the person toward at least a partial
recovery. The more a person does to improve their
overall health the better they will feel.
Janie used the Gerson therapy in combination with
amalgam removal and a few other things to recover from
MS. She is not cured. She still has MS. But she has
her life back and now leading a more normal lifestyle.
The two single most important things that she did
that helped her the most were the Gerson therapy and
amalgam removal and detox. Before we started the
Gerson therapy we spoke with a couple of people who
had MS and used the G.T. to recover, but they didn't
claim that it cured them.
However, I don't know why the person at the Gerson
clinic told you that. If you go to the Gerson website
at http://www.gerson.org/ and click on "Case Studies",
then click on "Multiple Sclerosis" you can read a
testimonial from someone other than Janie who used the
G.T. to recover from MS.
Also, the Gale Encyclopedia of Alternative Medicine
describes the Gerson Therapy in detail at this
Here is one paragraph I have quoted:
"Gerson therapy has had many successes with the
following: cancer, migraine, ulcers, asthma, glaucoma,
edemas, eczema, diabetes, schizophrenia, emphysema,
epilepsy, allergies, psoriasis, tuberculosis,
arteriosclerosis, heart diseases, rheumatoid
arthritis, kidney diseases, lupus erythematosus,
multiple sclerosis, and high blood pressure; all of
them common degenerative diseases. Gerson demonstrated
that dramatic initial improvements can be expected
within one week of starting his therapy, which
involves taking nothing but absolutely fresh fruit and
vegetable juices, coffee, chamomile and castor oil
enemas, and additional nutrients according to the
prescription of a practitioner who is conversant with
the principles of the Gerson therapy."
Maybe you can tell I am a big supporter of the G.T.,
as it helped Janie so much I almost can't believe it.
Before this, I did not believe in alternatives at all,
now I am convinced.
I agree...this is my 9th month after significant Ms attack... but through diet protocols... exercise and the Gerson Therapy I live a very normal life...... in some ways my quality of life is better than what it was before theMS came along..
I had my first IUD placed back in October. I have been spotting or bleeding since but thought that was somewhat normal. then recently in the past month I feel my life has been turned upside down. I started having strange numbing tingling in my left foot and toes. then it moved to my left arm, hands and fingers. I also had a lot of joint pain (more than normal- have had joint pain for several years) I had a sore neck, and I felt like i had knots all over my back. so I went to the doctor and to a chiropractor. the chiropractor thought I should see a neurologist - thought I might have something neurologically wrong autoimmune or m.s. the doctor thought I had arthritis and possibly a rotator cuff tear. I had blood work and xrays done and all came back fine. no arthritis, no tears, nothing. then my symptoms started getting worse. hard to walk, dizzy, blurry vision, pain in eyes, pain in muscles, twitching, tremors, then I was at work and realized all of a sudden that my legs were so weak i could barely walk. my husband started searching the internet and found something about possible silicone poisoning from mirena IUDs that mimic M.S. (multiple sclerosis symptoms). as of right now I have 17 symptoms of M.s. I am going to get my IUD taken out ASAP but does
anyone know if an IUD can actually CAUSE m.s. it sounds like some people are still having symptoms long after removal. I am scared and just want to be prepared.
I know a lot of us have been tested for MS (myself included) because of the similarities, and at least one had brain lesions, but I can't remember anyone on this board who actually got diagnosed with MS. All the symptoms you describe are Mirena symptoms - you need to get it removed ASAP! And recovery may take a while. You definitely want to get tested for MS however, to hopefully rule it out. Many have had low Vitamin D levels and Thyroid, and many get their hormone levels tested as well. You might try some of the private Facebook groups, there are a lot of women on there you could ask too. "Ban Mirena IUD" and "Women with Mirena IUD Side Effects Support Group" are a couple good ones. Good luck, and hope you'll post back with your progress!
I can't answer about whether it causes MS, but I can certainly say it does seem to cause symptoms that mimic it. Tongue tingling was one of my symptoms that drove me to the doctor. My PCP immediately sent me for a brain scan, but fortunately there were no lesions and a follow-up visit with specialists determined that my symptoms were not clustering enough to suggest MS.
It is terribly scary, though. I hope you can have the Mirena removed ASAP. I have had lingering side effects, but nowhere near what I encountered toward the end when I had it in. Good luck
I haven't looked into this but I just had a fairly major episode of psychosis which I fully attribute to the Mirena IUD; while MS is generally considered a 'medical' issue there is some debate as to whether it is better classified as a mental health disorder and the diagnosis between bi-polar disorder and MS is often confused (with individuals being initially diagnosed with bi-polar and later reassessed as having MS). I was diagnosed as bi-polar II, 3 years ago so I should not have been so stupid as to realize the IUD was a terrible idea for me but i didn't think it through.
Anyway i got it out 2-days ago, got my period today and feel completely back to normal. I should note that I am never anxiety and stress free (I wonder if anyone is?) so I still have anxiety associated with the follow up psychiatrist assessment and the 3rd diagnosis this hosiptal might give me (first one was 'mild depression') and whatever new drugs they will tell me I need to be on for life in order to be considered a reasonable member to allow into society. Maybe we should just admit Women's liberation was a joke? The hormones and mood swings that are part of being a Women have been deemed unnacceptable, it might be easier to accept this if we weren't all pretending at the same time that Women should be considered equal.
There is no debate on whether ms is a mental health disorder. It is an actual medical condition. There are lesions on your brain and Obands in your spinal fluid. Nerve studies to show that nerves are damaged. Secondary problems such as trigeminal neuralgia which is the most painful condition known to man. Anyways I came here to see if there is a correlation with ms and the mirena coil. Sorry to be so defensive it's just very annoying it ruins peoples lives to be said it's not a medical condition. There are hundreds of people in wheelchairs who may disagree with you on that one.
Most of your post doesn't make a whole lot of sense, but I will correct one point that you are terribly wrong about. M.S. Is an autoimmune disorder. It is a disease in which the autoimmune disorder attacks the myelin sheaths of the axons of the central nervous system. It is most certainly NOT a mental health disorder and is in no way related to bipolar disorder. There is no current debate, nor has there ever been, in labeling M.S. as a mental health disorder.
There is no confusion is misdiagnosising M.S. As bipolar disorder. The two illnesses could not be more different. M.S. Is diagnosed by the presence of lesions in the brain and spinal cord, inflammation in the brain or spinal cord and at least two episodes of symptoms. The list of symptoms do not even remotely resemble bipolar disorder. Numbness, partial paralysis, blindness are just a few of the symptoms of M.S.
Do a little reading before you spread misinformation.
I am having almost identical symptoms to yours. Had Mirena removed 3 weeks ago. I already feel a little better. I've had all kinds of tests and everything came back clear or inconclusive for MS or anything more than arthritis and a little neuropathy in one foot/leg. I have memory problems, numbness, tingling, severe fatigue, weakness in my arms and legs, speech problems and the list goes on, but no explanation. I quit taking all medications, changed my diet and quit drinking alcohol and nothing helped. The Mirena was the last thing I could think of to stop using. Did you ever get any answers for your symptoms?
Although I agree that Cell Phone s are dangerous and I will not use them. I do not own one and I avoid them as much as possible. I even based a house purchase based upon the location of Cell Phone masts and abandoned a house purchased when I found out that there was a cell phone mast practically in the back garden. That is how much I am against them.
I do not use wifi, my router is wired ethernet connected. I do own a cordless home telephone, I cannot avoid that but I did replace an older one with a model which lowers the power based upon it's distance from the base and can shut it down completely.
I have Chronic-Fatigue-Syndrome which is an autoimmune illness, I have never owned a cell phone so the autoimmune aspect of your post I disagree with. This began long before I ever came into contact with any cordless tech and long before cell phones were ever around.
Autoimmune illness is caused by a bacteria BTW.
Wireless technology does adversely affect the immune function and can cause cancer in susceptible individuals. This was highlight many years ago by a scientist who the mobile companies destroyed and pulled strings to prevent him getting any funding for further research.
Cell phones are an evil and are best avoided but they are not the cause of autoimmune illness.
Cell Phone is a small part of that pollution. You can have that HFEMF from a lot of devices.
Electric floor heating, spark ignition of a car. Unshielded switching power source. LED bulb and all are unshielded. For example I sneezed uncontrollably for 4 hours because of a computer monitor with LED.
So beware of your environment.
Autoimmune disease are a huge lie. The life do not fight against himself.
Immune system is a artificial construction. Show me. You can't? Know why? Because exist only a immune reaction at body cell level. Here is DNA the key of our immunity. So think again before to say no.
You are affected but you must find the source. And stop believe all that legends. Are not true.
You play with the fire? Why are you surprised that the fire will burn? All the places are painful have a correspondence with a pocket with a purse or with a place in which hold for a very long time a Cell Phone in operation.
See the leaves from the top of the tree? The same happens to the cells and our next to the cell phone. Do you still keep the cell phone next to his brain? Now you know the cause of all the problems your health?
Do you think that option is your highness? Do you think that is only your problem? You are wrong. Is the problem of all. A cell phone affect the environment into a sphere with a radius of 5000 m. A router affect the environment into a sphere with a radius of 250 m. There is nothing to stop the propagation of them. This problem is the problem of all.