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Last June I had been trying to detox heavy metals. I had taken Powdered Zeolite Pure and then started also on Humifulvate, Complete Metal Cleanse by Enzymatic Therapy.
In fairness to these products, at times I took more than the recommended dose of the Humifulvate because I thought that it was helping me and was simply a natural product, so less of a risk. Stupid me.
In July I started to get severe dizzy spells which lasted till mid August. Then I retried the Humifulvate to try to change whatever it had done to me. When I did the dizziness decreased significantly, but then I got these horrible jolts which occured at night right before falling asleep. They were like lightning convulsions!! Really horrible. Then I retried the Humifulvate to try to change this and I got less of the jolts, but shifts in my body during the day, pain in my hands, jerks and trembling.
When I finally got to a practitioner he told me I had depleted my electrolytes and to start taking salt immediately. The salt and other supplements helped, but the one thing that has been helping me has been iodine.
I can't express to you what a nightmare this has been. If it hadn't been for the Iodine (and the salts) I don't know what would have come of me.
What did the Humifulvate do? Or the preceding Zeolite?
Apparently, rid my brain of electrolytes. Or suck the Iodine right out. Getting these back has not been an easy road. I get Bromide detox symptoms and can only take very little of the life saving iodine at a time.
Perhaps these products are good in a certain context. Perhaps they are better than other things. But if you are already a sick person and happen to deplete your electrolytes while on them BEWARE!!!!
I had a different experience with humic acid. I'm taking the Active Liquid Minerals brand http://www.4alw.com/liquid-minerals/
Overall, this is a great supplement. This supplement reduces heavy metal and candida\fungus symptoms. The problem I have is when I forget to take the supplement, I experience severe constipation, lasting several days, even weeks. Does anyone out there know why humic acid causes these symptoms?
It could be die-off. I know both zeolite and humic and fulvic acids can create die-off if you are toxic enough. Constipation is common with die-off.
To the other poster, I have never heard of humic and fulvic acid doing this. What you described to me sounds more like die-off also. If you have heavy metals in your brain and you start to chelate them, you can go through a healing crisis. Dizziness, is not uncommon with a healing crisis and I'm pretty certain the being shocked feelings you are common too with heavy metal toxicity. I know I have them with lyme and sometimes my hand and legs will jerk by themselves, and it sometimes feels like a jolt. I also have heavy metal issues so I'm sure this could be contributing to it as well. I have been using zeolite which has humic and fulvic acid in it. This particular product has been getting lots of recognition and I think awards. I am definitely having die-off. I've wanted to sleep all day and I feel like I have the flu, i.e. runny/stuffed up nose, alternating sore throat, headache, feeling more tired than usual, asthma kicked up, etc. Besides the zeolite, I am also taking an anti-parasitic and stuff for candida, so it's probably just a big whammy hitting me all at once.
I don't doubt that die off can cause many types of symptoms including neurological ones like shaking and having your hands move suddenly. In my case though, I have certainly had die off symptoms before, but never with the neurological responses. I have also had symptoms from mercury exposure, as when I had my Amalgams removed, and they were also bad, but not the same sort of thing. At least in my case, no neurological symptoms.
Though I think the Zeolite Pure which I had been taking first did lower my electrolytes (at least a hair analysis at the time seemed to show this clearly) even though it was helpful to me!!, it was the addition of the Humifulvate to my protocol that seemed to really knock me into severe neurological symptoms (which I didn't have any of with the zeolite). And I mean severe dizziness, extremely severe jolts at night, severe shifts and convulsive movements and pain in my hands and on and on, a true waking nightmare.
It seems, like I mentioned, that the one key factor which is helping me has been taking Iodine (and iodide). Which could point to the Humifulvate having the effect of removing Iodine from the brain (at least in my case).
I am not saying that all humic and fulvic acids would have the same effect. I do not know! Perhaps the effect of each will vary according to chemical composition. One thing I read though is that the actual mechanism by which these act in the body is unknown.
So....please, if using any of these be Extremely Careful for your own sake.
It does though me wonder if the makers of Humifulvate ever heard of such cases in their own country??? And if so did they simply dismiss them as having to do with something else? Not bothering to look into it too much?
Does Humifulvate have an affinity for iodine?
Whatever it does it seems it could possibly put a susceptible individual through HELL and cause very real damage, as in my case. Or even at low doses can it cause some sort of undetected low grade injury? Even in otherwise healthy individuals?
The research to answer this will probably have to wait for many years to come.
an update with some good news and perhaps a treatment that could further help anyone experiencing brain difficulties
so it has been over 2 years since I posted these emails
I have been on the Sea Salt and Iodine protocol which has continued to help me, though at a very slow rate
the damage I wrote about has continued to get better, less soreness, but the upper left portion of my brain still remains very very sore and I have difficulty driving and still with moving (even walking more than half a block) or lifting (because the lifting seems to cause? pressure in the same area), in summary it has been a very slow hellacious healing process
though perhaps some good news:
some potential help for brains and good news is that a treatment based on phosphatidyl choline (which I take as liquid sunflower based lecithin) and also a combination of sunflower and flax oils seems to also (besides the iodine) be helping my brain!! it seems to have sped up the healing process and I have less pain/soreness and greater ability to move!! which has been life saving for me
so I thought I would report this along with these entries
if you are having brain complications like I have reported here perhaps it could help you as well?
I get the oils from Lekithos and Body Bio (and don't make any money whatsoever from it)
also, I learned this from the Patricia Kane protocol which is related, but I only have taken the oils orally and not intravenously (as they do in that protocol), I think for me it might be way too much to take anything intravenously at this point
well, I hope this may be of help to anyone going through a similar experience, it seems as part of all this complication, my brain was starving for oils???
I used to lurk on CZ years ago because I had some adrenals problems. What I really should have done is fix my thyroid but live and learn. Anyway I was actually doing better over the years until within a matter of a month I was pretty much house bound. I was having work stress and stress from two of our dogs fighting. I then started going through peri-menapause and was feeling kinda off. I went to a hormone doctor to get things straightened out. They gave me hormones and I took a tiny bit and it completely debilitated me. My thyroid wasn't right so my body could not handle it and the stress I was going through had worn me down over time. This all seemed to happen at once but it was years in the making.
I went into fight or flight I started have panic attacks multiple times a day. I started having, sensitivities to supplements, hair loss, cold extremities, night sweats, chronic sleep problems, massive digestive issues, tingling, gurd, Weird sensations in my head, felt like I was in a daze like brain fog, memory loss, hives, and MCS. I couldn't go anywhere because the noise, the lights the activity would be too much for my brain to handle. I couldn't look at a band aid without freaking out. I thought I was going to die. I lost 18lbs. I became obsessed with Googling symptoms, which at the time made me worse because it added to the stress. What I know now' but did not know then, is that my limbic system was becoming damage from all the stress that used up my bodies resources like minerals, amino acids and B vitamins. My thyroid wasn't up to handling all the stress and I found myself so sick I thought I was going to die. I couldn't do much at all and I was so scared.
I had an alternative doctor at the time that was at her wits in with me. She happened to hear about a program that a couple of her other patients with MCS and symptoms like mine had stumbled upon and were having progress with. I started the program because I was so desperate. What is program was about was brain retraining. I had damage my brain in a way through chronic stress. My out of kilter hormones and stress from starting to get sick magnified that brain damage and sent me into a downward spiral. I had to work very hard to reverse my brain out of that fight or flight path and back into normal life. I won't lie it took a lot of work and it was hard hard work. As I did the brain retraining I saw my mind go from a very dark place back into the light again. When I finally could take supplements I started focusing on amino acids. That was another piece of the puzzle. Stress depletes our amino acids that our body uses to combat stress and keep us calm. It took me a little under a year to build up my amino acids again.
It took me a year and a half to completely heal my brain and body. I no longer have anxiety. I don't take anti depressants. I have completely recover and my huge list of symptoms have disappeared. I have gained weight back and I hike, bike and do kettlebell work out. Limbic system impairments are connected to AF, CFS, MCS and PTSD. Not alot of doctors are talking about this and you have to really look to find the information. I was incredibly lucky that my doctor had know about it. I am posting this hoping that it will help someone out there. Anyone going through mental stress, a physical illness coupled with emotional stress, mold exposure, head trauma, can have this happen to them.
I am not sure I fully understand your question but I will try to answer it. When I became extremely ill I could not take any supplements I was having reactions to them. My downward spiral was triggered by stress but understand stress comes in a multitude or forms:
Trauma physical or mental
A Bad Relationship
Basically anything that causes stress mental, physically and/or emotional. Overtimes we were down our bodies resources to deal with stress and our brain also becomes altered because of stress. I had two other friends that experienced the same thing. Both were in very stressful relationships and after a year of the stress from the relationship all of a sudden they were so sick they could not leave their homes.
I did a brain retraining program called DNRS. I also worked with one of their coaches. A lot of it's contents deals with altering the brain by building new neuro pathways. The program does have a lot of fluff in it. The coach actually helped me more. The basis is rooted in positive thinking but it's strategically done along the lines of mindfulness. You really do have to stick with it and practice it daily. I was so bad it was a 24/7 job. Mindfulness sounds simple but try doing it on a mind that keeps wanting to go down the dark path. There is lots of Science behind it too. They go over a lot of it in the program. For some people it might be harder to apply and understand how to get on top your your thoughts and emotional responses. It's the emotional responses that release hormones. The more emotions/stress the more you use up your resources. That is when we downward spiral and start having fatigue, digestive issues, brain fog etc... This worked wonders for me and it was my miracle. I probably had an advantage with the brain retraining because I worked in the positive thinking industry when I got so sick. Kinda funny really that it ended being the answer. I had never heard of DNRS or brain retraining.
There is a book For amino acids called The Mood Cure. I used gelatin because I could not take pills without zapping my energy. It also helped my gut issues. I also did bone broth. Later as I healed I was able to add more supplements. So those where L-theanine, Gaba and Tryptophan and a protein powder with a wide range of amino acids. Later I added B complex. I also worked on processing past stress. I found a technique after I had healed 70 percent that deals with processing old stress and I really think it changes brain pathways as well. It's called The Hamr. The Hamr is pretty amazing.
When you have these issues going on you still may need to find if there is a virus, bacteria or other health issue. But it is really important to not pay attention to the stress that causes. I know easier said than done. I was horribly sick I knew I had to do something. All people don't get as sick as I was. They may be able to work and function more but have a horrible reaction to mold. Your brain gets used to taking the stress pathways. It's like an addiction. It starts really getting attached to what is wrong and being in a state of alarm. Week by week as I changed my thoughts and my actions I saw little improvements. They were not huge leaps but I was super crazy mentally and very sick physically. As my emotions got better the inflammation it cause went down in my body and my brain.
So I did brain retraining for 1.5 years. I did amino acids for a little less than a year. Also at about one year I went to a Chiropractor that worked with Standard Process products. She helped me heal my kidneys, liver, spleen and other organs that were stressed.
Nice to see you here and good to hear you're fully healed! Must have been quite a journey of frustration but also of learning and improving ones self. At the end I hope this was all for the best.
I'm 1 year in and haven't made that much improvement but I do know that my main problems are mercury/copper + mineral imbalance. I have one last Amalgam to get removed out of 6. I'm working really hard on liver detox - coffee enemas and Liver Flushes and kidney too.
I though my main issue was adrenal fatigue initially but I was wrong. they might be slightly affected only.
It's gonna be one tough ride to detox from these heavy metals though.
Hoping to be fully healed in 1 or 2 years by doing a nutritional balancing program.
So glad to hear from you. I was wondering who was still here, but not hoping you were. :) I know a lot of people do the nutritional balancing program. I heard good things about it and have a couple friends who have seen much improvement. I know it's hard putting all the puzzle pieces together.
Yes my experience was so bad, but I came back from it. I was bound and determined. I figured out my AF was more stress and thyroid. I actually have three mercury fillings broken in my mouth right now. Scary but I am fine. I am going back to work so I can get on the dental stuff taken care of.
Just keep the faith that you will heal and your body is a detoxing machine. I was taking SP chelator and charcoal based supplements for awhile. I really should go back on those. I was just trying to cut down on $ out. I think I do need to detox more. It helps the thyroid.
yeah I'm still here...unfortunately haha. but what is 1 year of trial/error and discovering our health condition. a year ago I was pretty clueless - now I have learned much from a lot of people and nutritional balancing seemed to solid approach for getting rid of excess metal/ re-balancing the body's biochemistry.
I would look into maybe getting those cracked fillings out since they are leaking more poisonous mercury into your body - the removal process isn't actually bad at all. I did run into a couple issues but I'm glad they are mostly out.
Yes exactly - our bodies are powerful detoxifying machines...I actually say that in my positive affirmation. I'm retraining my brain/unconscious mind - trying to remove all negativity from all these year. Actually started reading the power of your subconscious mind and I can say it's pretty helpful for that.
did you have copper problems? that's a major one to get fixed for me. I believe mercury also competes with copper so it's double the problem.
You know starting out here years ago I originally thought I had a copper problem. It me years to realize it was my eating habits. I was eating a ton of chocolate and nuts and those two foods are high in copper. Also years and years ago I was on birth control and it has copper in it. The copper was giving me migraines and probably was one of the things that contributed to the attack on my thyroid.
Yes my teeth are a priority. I got to get that taken care of. I know I am going to take a big dose of charcoal before and after removal time. I also brushes a little of my gum away during my anxiety mode.
I worked in the positive thinking industry but learned such a deeper level of what different types of energy/emotions did to me when I got sick. I started reading Joe Dispenza's books which became key in what I had to do to get well.
When I was so sick my diet became so clean. I was having food reactions too. A tiny amount of Sugar would give me and anxiety attack. I am so happy your getting answers. That is one of the hardest parts figuring out what your body wants and doesn't want.
There's also a brain center that works with some similair techniques I used. It's called Carrick Brain Centers or Cerebrum Health Centers.
I won't kid you my brain retraining was very hard. I also had to ignore my impulse to worry about candida, or my gut issues or some weird prickling sensation I would have. At one point I swear I could feel bubbles floating under my skin. I had to get passed all that and just know that if I stopped all the inflammation that I set off that things would heal and eventually tiny bit by bit after freakin work work work they did.
Hey TheLaughingDogs! So great to see you are doing well! I also used to "lurk" out here quite a bit, and always enjoyed learning from your posts! I'm also doing much better. I too fell into bad adrenal fatigue from high copper. I am back to running 10K's now! I actually supplemented with copper to try to get my natural hair color darker! Bad decision! Anyway, those prickly feelings can be due to oxalates. Chocolate and nuts are high in oxalates and can cause a leaky gut to be much worse. There is a great, free Yahoo group (Trying_Low_Oxalates) you can join to learn more and gain access to a free spreadsheet showing the oxalate content in specific foods. A low oxalate diet has helped me a lot. I also found I got much better when focusing on liver detox supplements & taurine and things to help my thyroid. I now can handle Iodoral, Tyrosine, Selenium and a Raw Thyroid supplement. That along with coconut oil really improved my energy levels. Now I'm also taking small amounts of Boron to detox fluoride. I also regularly take collagen and protein powder for the amino acids that are so helpful for rebuilding & detoxing your body. I still believe mineral balancing is huge for recovery. I refer to the acu-cell.com web site often! Take care!
I heard that most people who need to supplement with Zinc actually have low copper as well.
What are the tell tale signs of too high copper? As I was reading, they don't seem too much different from deficiency in copper. Thus I'm lead to believe that it's probably impossible to say without hair analysis. Lol.
If it does really cause harm to the adrenals better to avoid it in that case.
A lot of people indeed have bio unavailable copper. Usually, if you're low in copper that means you have low ceruloplasmin - copper binding protein - and thus, your body cannot utilize the copper releasing all this free copper into the blood stream which causing cooper toxicity. I'm one of those. My hairesume analysis shows low copper and ideal zinc. So the supplements I'm taking contains zinc and copper. It could be harmful of I only took zinc.
Yes copper is a stimulant to the adrenals. But our body needs balanced levels of copper.
It's a very complicated subject as its hard to find good info on copper bio unavailability.
Thanks Angelhealing! Going back to the Oxalates. A day after we spoke about it here I noticed I was turning my heal to avoid stepping on my heel directly. Felt like a deposit on that bone in my foot. My Natural doc told me to take a high dose of Vit. K to help absorb calcium. I did that and the next day and since no more problems with my foot. Not sure if it was the Vit. K or a coincidence. Next time it happens I will see if it works again.
I remember you Angelhealing. Wow running 10Ks that is awesome!! Your right about the Oxalates. Very insightful of you. I had a prickly feeling and it seems like it was floating around through my blood steam. I put that together with getting kidney stones when I alkalize so I narrowed it down to calcium crystals. I actually have to keep myself a little on the acid side so they don't crystalize. I don't supplement with calcium anymore. I will check out that Yahoo group for sure.
I did end up having to take Naturethroid. I am trying to rev up my thyroid with coconut oil and am on week 3 with larger doses. I sure don't get hungry and have smooth energy throughout the day with coconut oil. I don't eat carbs or Sugar at all really. I also added Brazil nuts and Iodine. I had to cut back on the Brazil after one week because they were giving itching fits. I guess I had enough Selenium.
Hi. I'm trying to narrow down the countless treatment options for MCS. My reactions seem different than most. I am reacting to foods ( I only have 6 safe foods), supplements, chemicals etc,,
What type of reactions would you get to supplements? Since my reactions are more with the autonomic nervous system , do you feel the Carrick Brain Center would be helpful?
Any insight is greatly appreciated as I am determined to heal. I don't want to take supplements or do IV treatments that will make me worse.
Sorry it took me so long to reply I had quit a bit come up to take care of at home. Anyway I took was not typical with my MCS. I was told nobody has typical MCS. Everyone with it will have their own unique versions of it. It's your brain reacting to a elevated state of stress. MCS can start out with one thing it's reacting to and gradually take on others. What makes that happen is that when we start having more health issues it increases the stress then in turn your brain picks out more things to be afraid of. We are reacting emotionally at some level sending those signals to the brain and the brain gets stuck in that state thinking that's what it's supposed to do to help us out. It started for me with supplements, then as my body because more stress my digestion started to go and it moved to foods. Then it started on smells.
I would call the Carrick Brain center and see what their program involves. I would also think there would be an ongoing training or practice you would have to do to work on the thoughts. Every Time we have thoughts about our MCS it tells the brain to keep on it's current program. To break that cycle you have to start sending it the messaging with your thought and emotions that things are back to normal.
I worked a year and a half on my thoughts. I had to completely let go of every though and action that let my brain know I had MCS. I could not even use certain words. If you react to name of the foods you can't eat you change that or just don't think about it at all. I didn't even talk about my MCS at all or did any research on my health. I couldn't even let my brain start the thought. It was a lot of work but way worth it to get a normal life back. All the best to you and let me know if you need any other information or have questions. I have some processes I use now for my brain and I can send them to you.
You might want to have your brain checked out since you have a tendency to pick on people and be little them contentiously. You don't seem to be completely healed since you display this behavior repeatedly. It is a sign that something is out of balance with you.
I developed MCS over the last year or so and through all kinds of detoxing discovered oil pulling here.
After oil pulling for a few days I got an excruciating tooth ache. I wasn't even sure what tooth it was from. The dentist ex-rays revealed nothing, so i went home with pain killers. i made the oil pulling connection and know about healing reactions so i stopped pulling and the pain went away. I had a dentist appointment a few weeks later so started oil pulling again hoping to heal any problem. This time the pain was so bad that i was eating pain killers like candy.
The dentist replaced two fillings thinking it may have been a recent loosening. He replaced the back tooth filling and i begged him to replace the next one, just in case. I had a terrible reaction to the Novocaine (my eye blurred and I shook, but that's a different story). So i waited a while and started OP sesame oil and peppermint every other day, no pain. Then, every day and suddenly i noticed a white puss bubble next to my back tooth. It was frightening. There was no pain, so i drained it and swished with H2o2, Redmond's salt and peppermint. It went away. About a week later, it came back-same deal. Now it has come back every 3-7 days and i am oil pulling twice a day. It doesnt hurt and I feel fine, but it is awful to have infection in your mouth. BTW, That is the spot where I had my wisdom tooth pulled.
I don't have the $ for a cavitation surgery and frankly i am not convinced that this OP isn't an amazingly strong detox to suck this infection from way down in my jaw.
I am thinking I will give it a while and then go to my regular insurance paid dentist (who I am not crazy about)and let him do what regular dentists do in this situation. Your experience and advice is welcome!
After all the pain you've attributed to oil pulling its amazing you're still so dedicated. Remember, though, to try other oils if your not getting good results with what you're using. I've got to wonder if the peppermint has anything to do with it but just a guess.
The jury is still out (at least around here) on whether oil pulling "pulls" toxins and other stuff from the body. But it's pretty clear that all types of germs in the mouth can be dealt with by oil pulling. Abscesses, tooth infections, gum disease can be dramatically treated with OP. In fact all by yours truly at one point or another.
If you try mixing in as many drops of oregano oil as you can tolerate with your usual oil, you'll find infections get dealt with much quicker. Oregano oil is a powerful germ killer. But keep it all up - I'd put big bucks on daily oil pulling doing more for your oral health than any number of dentist visits at the end of the day.
Yes, OP can draw out an infection. This has been posted many many times. Have you thought about Oil of Oregano instead of the peppermint? It's a powerful antibiotic. Use for 10 days only though, just like an antibiotic.
Just think about it. If you had that infection lingering in your gums, most likely you were introducing it to the rest of your system, without even knowing you were doing so. That heavy duty bacteria could cause so many other problems systemically.
Now you are pulling it out and spitting out the bacteria.
All I can say is....good for you!!
I know others on here that have had infections, and I'm hoping they will come around and talk about their experiences as well.
Thanks for the response. Detoxing is so eye opening. No one knew i had a gum infection. Doing coffee enemas revealed all of the parasites and some worms that i had. To look at me, I am perfectly healthy! Then suddenly I had Multiple Chemical Sensitivity...
When My MCS was at its worst (it is 85% better now) I had elbow pains and eye twitching and my lungs have had issues, 1 asthma attack and general lungs not feeling great.. I looked up tooth meridian and elbow and lungs and sinus are on that tooth area.
so interesting. I am counting on this gum infection ending soon...
Hi! My names Tyler. I'd like to know more about this as I apparently have an infection in one of my teeth close to the front. And it sucks cause my dream is to be an actor. I've been oil pulling with clove oil and oregano oil for about a week now. And I feel like it's healing it right up. Any suggestions? I'm going to do everything I need to do to avoid a rc. Please feel free to pm me or reply back on here. Hope to hear back from you soon. Thank you so much.
"No, if it could no one would bother having surgery."
Only if everyone knew about all the benefits of oil pulling would that be true. And we all know that couldn't be further from the truth. OP pulls all kinds of nasty stuff out of the mouth.
Anyone with root canals should be oil pulling - and using a few drops of oregano oil at least once a week. I even rely on pulling oregano to absorb throughout my body and kill germs instead of antibiotics when I'm sick. It works faster, better, and is WAY healthier than oral antibiotics.
So if the oregano can absorb throughout the body, you know anything in the mouth/jaw area would absorb much more. Try it and see.
Also oil pulling with a few drops of Grape fruit seed extract or Thyme oil, oregano or even tree oil ( just a couple drops) is amazing. I used both sesame oil and organic virgin coconut oil white makes the whites of your eyes super white. I have a root canal from a few years back that does not look infected on the xrays but hurts I the dentist said there is only one way to know is take it out. I know this has been making me deathly ill so I'm going to a holistic dentist who will refer me to his oral surgeon the the oral surgeon will NOT do a root canal he will do an implant I want this done as fast as they can do it.
Thank you for your story. I think it goes to show you that when you have a hidden tooth infection that is making your sick and the dentists cannot locate it, but you know it is a hidden dental infection the best way is figure out where the hidden tooth infection is start oil pulling today and it become very clear very fast which tooth is infected.
In response to what to do for the infection I would book ASAP with a biological /holistic dentist and get ozone injections into the site it will kill all infection on contact and ozone will kill all infection at the site One shot with my city dentist in 2013 cost 45. that is cheap just have it done, my dentist suggest four visits to be sure he killed the infection, I guess some people like laser to disinfect but I don't know enough about it
My names Tyler. I'd like to know more about this as I apparently have an infection in one of my teeth close to the front. And it sucks cause my dream is to be an actor. Please feel free to pm me or reply back on here. Hope to hear back from you soon. Thank you so much.
Last year out of no where I had a BAD toothache and since I have no insurance, the cheapest thing to do was to pay to have the tooth pulled. I ended up having dry socket which is the most excruciating pain I've ever felt...I've always said I'd have my children over before I'd choose to have another tooth pulled.
Well just recently (about 5 days ago) and suddenly the gum in between two of my teeth became swollen. It wasn't painful or uncomfortable it just felt weird, at first. Each day it would swell more, it became red, uncomfortable, painful to touch and bled while brushing.
I had no clue what it might be so I went online and happened upon oil pulling specifically with coconut oil. I became excited because I have an abundance of different extra virgin, unrefined, cold pressed, organic oils on hand and from what I read, I should get some instant relief. I did it for the first time yesterday and immediately after I spit out the oil one of my teeth next to the swollen gum began throbbing like crazy and the swollen gum was redder and bigger. I also developed a hard swelling under the throbbing tooth and a less intense ache down the length of entire gum under the tooth. Needless to say I did end up taking 2 Tylenol w/codeine just so I could sleep.
I'm hoping I had the reaction because the act of OP helps pull the infection to the surface. I will continue for a few days to see what happens. I swished with peroxide today before the OP but it is still painful and swollen (never a fever). I'm going to switch up the oil to sesame and add some tea tree essential oil and see if that helps. I will buy some oregano oil to try out as well.
Any thoughts on what you think may have been going on with my tooth before I started OP, and why you think I had the reaction after I OP are very much appreciated!
Sorry to hear that your not well. I believe that OP draws poisons /toxins to the surface and as it surfaces we are to react according. In my case I had huge boil that had to be drained. When I oil pull and get lump or bumps in my mouth .
I decide if it something serious go straight to dentist. In my case, I used essential oils and DMSO or MSM and DMSO on the area that is lumpy. I might even hold really warm salt water in my mouth, since salt is amazing to drawing infections, poisons to the surface and also has some antibiotic properties
Thanks for the tip, found some Hulda Clark frequency lists but no plant pest in them.
it leads me for the next question, can i research it my self?
any one knows how to discover an organism frequency? whats the method?
The frequencies shift up and down the spectrum as the organisim adjusts to changes in it's environment. The frequencies answer to metabolic activities inside it's cells- the replication of DNA, the changes of the mitochondria as it makes RNA and metabolizes nutrients, and the movement of protiens up and down the cytozome as transcription molecules are carried to the different parts of the cell.
It's not frequencies, but quantum activities in a four-dimensional plane (and the planes higher than those, as the cells react to influences on the spiritual side of things).
This is why EMF from jarring electronics can make us sick. Extremophiles do better in high-energy environments, and sometimes EMF can excite their metabolisim. (Think of the moulds that like to feed off and aggregate minerals in the soil, like the ones that create veins of gold and silver. Their activities are safe in soil, but toxic in a body).
Yes, the theory of frequencies killing an infection via resonance is still valid, but you need to cover a spectrum of frequencies to kill efficiently over a longer period, because of the rule of genetic adaptation. Bacterium and the like have a span from generation to generation of between 2-4 days, and larger parasitic organisims of 14-28 days.
The zapper vs rife debate can allways rage plenty, but it really helps to read. :)
that is helping information.
you are great!
I need to connect some ideas about this subject to understand some other ideas that many others put on the table for the whole picture.
I want to heal myself and help.
So can you answer some questions: those...
How is Bioresonance invented, is it for using low or high frequency or frequencies as it uses the resonance found in the body and corrected and fed back to the body to cancel the frequency of that bacteria or virus and so the dna or nutrient and kill it, as you say?
There are some programs for each microbe and thus disease stored in a portable instrument for use long time that resonate and the frequence stated is from 1-100 herzes - is this the whole range or spectrum or one frequency for each one in the list?
see this one and explain please:
it sounds good! I have more question after this. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eZLV-5hXSf4
Bioresonance was observed in specimens outside the body, so not in the native environment. Microbes were observed exploding when certain frequencies were used on them.
Remember that there is a lot of overlap in the frequencies because we're talking about organising, organisims inside organisms, inside organisms.
I kinda put a halt to researching the rife world when I discovered just how heavily therapists have had to rely on divination and dowsing (occult practices) to get the info needed for accurate, specific frequencies for treating a patient. The frequencies have not been pinned down specifically, perfectly, because in-vitro the adaptation cycle of the organisms is 3-4 days per generation, and in wormy parasites, 28 days.
You can use my user profile to look for my earlier conversations on the matter, I spoke with a Hulda Clark fan and #461 shared some book excerpts with me about how Hulda learned about frequencies (her tool was called a synchometer).
Dowsing is.. Hmmm.. Only accurate when you are dealing with a person who has seriously invested their life in communicating with the spiritual entity they are dependant upon. It's been making rife research a confusing place, the biological systems are more complex than having a formula that can just be run through.
It does work, and reliably, IF a person is willing to invest themselves heavily in it. Zappers and rife machines work off messing up the quantum of them buggers.
But there's no real getting around the veg and fruit and herbs thingy, even the spooky 2 folk will say a rife user's got to get off his lazy caboose and shift gear from nasty trash to a healthy stash of live foods.
Sorry, I really can't help out with frequency research, but with sharing what I learned from chatting with those folk, yeah, it really helps if you can get a perspective on what goes on when you use those tools. Using the essential oils frequencies was incredibly powerful, but I experienced a -huge- surge in my symptoms when using frequency sets related to my own conditions.
The machines speed up the metabolic processes of the infections, ideally until the organisms burst and so they are visible to the immune system. The difficulty is eliminating the biofilm breeding-ground cities the organisms live and adapt in.
It's veg and herbs that detach those colonies.
The machines speed up the metabolic processes of the infections, ideally until the organisms burst and so they are visible to the immune system. The difficulty is eliminating the biofilm breeding-ground cities the organisms live and adapt in.
YOU HAVE BEEN THINKING ABOUT THIS HOPE OF A WAY OF HEALING, THAT IS FAR CLEAR BUT LET US SEE SOME MORE.
SO THAT IT IS NOT THE VIBRATION THAT EXPLODE THE MICROBE AND IT HAS TO WORK ON WITH HIGH FREQUENCY BUT CAN IT BE INFLUENCED/AFFECTED FROM LOW ONE?
HOW CAN THE LOW AFFECT THE HIGH PLACES, FREQUENCIES, HIGH DIMENSION? IS IT IN SCALAR WAVES/LENGHT OR LIGHT/BIOPHOTON AS THIS AND HOW THIS SPOOKY2 WORK WITH THIS HIGH FREQUENCY?
AND THE MICROBE GET MORE ACTIVE? AND THE IMMUNE GET STIMULATED? HEALTH CRISIS?
Using the essential oils frequencies was incredibly powerful, but I experienced a -huge- surge in my symptoms when using frequency sets related to my own conditions.
IS THIS OILS FREQUENCIES DONE LIKE HOMEOPATH?
SO YOU HAVE A PROGRAMED SET OF FREQUENCY OR YOU HAVE DONE IT USING FRQ GENERATOR? WHAT DO YOU SAY ABOUT THESE PROGRAMS IN THE TOOL I HAVE SHOWN YOU ON VIDEO?
NOW FROM 18:00 ON in the this video you can see testla coil used to senses the little current and to amplify the phantom of that virus.
you may get some ideas from it... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R8VyUsVOic0
you think - Dowsing is.. Hmmm.. Only accurate when you are dealing with a person who has seriously invested their life in communicating with the spiritual entity they are dependant upon. It's been making rife research a confusing place, the biological systems are more complex than having a formula that can just be run through.
And some of my imput, ideas hopefully to make a whole picture -
I think Rife first saw the cancer virus under his own invention of a microscope then the waveform, the frequency, in light spectrum, the light in the ray tube beam - was it mercury? So he had a reliable feedback and I think it was not long the therapy and the virus/bacteria's vibration had no chance to change or multiply. Yes, his was specific.
Bioresonance device in not specific as it tunes for the body's difference resonance and back feeding the same in inverted mode to interrupt the microbe. there are different ideas of how the machines work. this one has electric-magnetic information and colors made out of magnetic field of the virus that it on our body's water memory - the ghost the spirit on water( the Creator invested) and the coil amplified - in the video shown. I think Bioresonance is not very fine tuning to specific but I do not know. I have to know/search - shit, the truth (frustration/tired, my friend). But they have something with biophoton.
you are treating yourself with radionics and ...more, remote. How are you now?
I wish for you is cure.
Hello, This is my first time here. My wife has been dealing with MCS for about 13 years now. Can anyone point me in the right direction to find carry-on luggage that will not effect her? She's had two carry-on but they are starting to get tore up and the same company now treat their luggage to weather proof it so now it gives my wife a reaction.
I'm a 22 year old male who began experiencing a rapid deterioration in health following dental treatment last November.
I suffered an accident and required 2 root canal surgeries on my front teeth. Following my first root canal i became ill feeling like i had the flu with unexplainable anxiety, fatigue and pressure on my head. I then received the 2nd root canal and things really took off, i developed aches and pains all over my body in my joints and muscles, red ears, depression, extreme panic attacks, brain fog, sinus congestion and stuffy nose, abnormal ECG reading, facial rash, extreme fatigue, tingling sensations, ear aches, all over muscle twitching etc.
I saw many, many doctors who couldn't find my problems and ran tests for lupus and other autoimmune disease which returned negative. After becoming frustrated with the medical profession and their inability to help me i connected my illness back to the root canals and it all made sense. The more i read about chemical sensitivity the more it became apparent to me that the symptoms i experience and the way in which they were initiated fitted the bill.
I found a holistic dentist who removed the 2 root canal teeth about 3 months ago and hoped it would cure my symptoms but they have remained following the extraction. I have recently begun 'The Gerson Therapy' following a 10 day water fast and unfortunately i'm yet to see any positive results after a month of the therapy. i have minimised any potential exposures as best as i can and i'm doing everything i can to regain my health.
Does it tend to take a long time to recover from an exposure when someone has chemical sensitivities? The root canals were in my mouth for 7 months so it was quite a lengthy and constant exposure. I just want to start feeling better again & my lack of improvement is upsetting
no they haven't punctured the sinus cavity, i had an inspection at the time and x rays as they thought the accident could have broken my nose.
the material was gutta percha a latex based product. my dentist sent me the ingredients which include heavy metal sulfates and zinc oxide. i'm certain i was sensitive to the material and that the initiating exposure, the first root canal, sensitised me to the second treatment and caused all this. i just don't know how long it can take to see improvements after removing a chemical irritant. straight after the second one my pains and main symptoms really set in
The teeth and material were completely removed holistically along with the peridontal ligament. so i now have a partial denture however i don't wear this a lot of the time particularly when i'm home (which is often due to my fatigue) . i don't know how long symptoms take to subside in someone following a lengthy exposure?
thanks. I rang my biological dentist who said that my composite filling was fine and not causing issues. He said that gutta percha was a horrible material and felt that my ill health probably coincided with the root canals and the material used in them but he assured me they were completely removed. I just don't know how long it takes to recover from such an exposure/sensitivity or whether recovery is even possible. i'm trying everything
You may or may not be right-something is holding your body back and it would make sense that dental is. All root canals are infected-its not just the material. Youtube has plenty of docs talking about that.
If you cant find anyone-google Hal Huggins and ask him in the states-or google mike Margolis and ask him.
Call Paracelsus in Switzerland and ask them.
You will find someone if you want to-get the eav
the guy who i went to was a holistic dentist who has actually worked with hal huggins and cited Weston Price as his hero. the way i got ill after one root canal (sensitised) then got full blown MCS symptoms after the 2nd (triggering) makes me think it was the materials but my lack of improvement is worrying. i think the reaction triggered an autoimmune response with the face rash, fatigue and joint/muscle pain i developed but my tests are negative and my other symptoms all tie in with MCS such as twitching, tingling, sneezing, ear ringing, panic attacks etc. i'm trying everything but i fear that the damage is irreversible
the only other dental work i have is one gradia composite filling which my holistic dentist said is completely biocompatible. my symptoms list from when the materials were first put in is the same as the ones i have now. i don't understand whats going on. I'm looking for EAV testing in the UK as i can't afford to travel far but they're hard to come by. The Gerson Therapy is taking up most my time and money at the moment
I have also had a root canal done in april and have symptoms since that have made me seriously wonder about my root canal. I have carpal tunnel now and a sensitive part of my skin whcih makes me think im getting nerve damage. and pain in my leg like there is a nerve being damaged. I was serioulsy considering getting mine removed as well. I also have intestinal issues. Have you seen any changes since removal? I'm very curious about this.
no, i haven't taken any antibiotics. i had a very stressful time before the dental procedures were done and think this may have caused my body to react negatively to the chemicals. i've read up on candida and i'm on the gerson therapy at the moment. my symptoms cross over a lot with lyme, lupus, MCS etc. but i'm sure that a sensitivity caused all this.
i just don't know how long it can take to recover from an exposure or whether it's even possible to recover, it doesn't feel like it at the moment.
I have also had a root canal done in april and have symptoms since that have made me seriously wonder about my root canal. I have carpal tunnel now and a sensitive part of my skin which makes me think im getting nerve damage. and pain in my leg like there is a nerve being damaged. I was serioulsy considering getting mine removed as well. I also have intestinal issues. Have you seen any changes since removal? I'm very curious about this.
please, anyone? i'm begging for some help and knowledge on how long it can take to recover from an exposure and whether you can recover. i'm trying everything. PLEASE someone please give me some guidance or information. i can't keep going. i'm using gerson therapy, enemas, sauna treatments, avoiding as many chemicals as possible but nothing's helping.
the teeth, any infection and material have been removed but they were in for 8 months so i dont know if it's still them causing me issues or something else. the teeth are completely gone by a holistic dentist who has worked with Hal Huggins and is very familiar with the toxicity of root canals.
i dont know how long it takes to recover from a chemical exposure or whether my sensitivities have now spread to other things i'm not aware of
A while back i sent out a hair elements test which came back showing a very high level of copper
This has just been one clue in a long list of testing and symptom abnormalities that Im trying to connect
The only reason I started seeking answers was because of extreme chronic constipation that started around 2 years ago; 5 or 6 doctors passed it off as IBS and told me there was nothing they could do(aside from a few pharmaceuticals that exacerbated the problem). In the search for the cure I found a naturopath and got some capsules that included digestive enzymes and HCL(to increase stomach acid levels), miraculously they worked and daily large bowel movements resumed. I have to wonder which one, the stomach acid or the pancreas, is lacking in efficiency.
Beyond that I have a high bilirubin count and in the past my liver enzyme count was high but is now low
Probably related to the liver as well is the point that I cannot tolerate alcohol, if I try to drink I am wiped out for days
Tests came back showing high RT3 so Im on thyroid meds, symptoms mach up to the hypothyroidism diagnosis
Adrenal fatigue is also present including such symptoms as: severe brainfog, photosensitivity, anxiety, lack of libido, poor exercise tolerance, lack of motivation and attention
Markers for Chronic Epstein Barr virus have come back and I have to wonder if that has to do with a weak immune system
Im mildly sensitive to eggs, oats, and lobster; eating any of which will cause intestinal hyperpermiability
Im trying to put it together, chasing symptoms as I desperately reach out for the origin; there are just too many possibilities
Im leaning towards the copper being the problem right now, Iv seen a bunch of others on the Adrenal Fatigue forum posting about being copper toxic and I have to wonder if any of you are experiencing similar things
Has anyone actually corrected their copper levels and attained a state of good health, anyone here on curezone I mean?
The form of zinc I take is zinc picolinate as it's better absorbed. Start with really low doses, like 2.5mg. If you can't find anything that low, buy zinc tablets and a pill splitter. And if copper truly is one of your issues, expect some wacky symptoms for the first month or three when starting on zinc.
Honestly, you sound like a lot of us here, and there are some who have found the magic key to their lock. There's a ton of info here and good people to help you along the way.
It seems the further I dig, the more links I find between copper toxicity, adrenal fatigue, candida overgrowth, heavy metal toxicity, etc. The three major causes for me were intense, prolonged stress, heavy metal toxicity, and way too much unnecessary antibiotic use. So, for me, I've pursued a protocol of meditation, heavy metal detox, yoga, gut cleansing, and adrenal support ... in that order.
I'm actually feeling pretty damn good right now, compared to where I've been over the last 12 years. ;)
Excellent post and so true! Copper is a huge factor in AF. Now the only things that can put aa chink in my armor are major flu or. My monthly. But even with that I'm still stronger than before. Ali what kind of symptoms did you get on zinc. I had some intense ones
You sound a lot like me. I have high bilirubin, liver issues, low HCL, low pancreatic function, adrenal issues and I suspect high copper although I have not done tests yet. I also suspect estrogen dominance.
I am finally able to tolerate HCL; I was so low, I couldn't handle a full pill.
I am wondering what brand of HCL and enzymes you take?
I've been on the zinc for about a month now. I've seen some improvement in my energy levels. It fluctuates a lot. Sometimes I have had really good energy while not so much at other times. I am still figuring it out because of the complexity of my issues.
Dont know if I said but I did a hair test that showed extremely high levels of copper(260 ug/g when the safe range is 11-30 ug/g), it also showed high levels of zinc(280 when the safe range is 130-200) which Andy Cutler said indicates zinc deficiency in his book Hair Test Interpretations, not to mention that the two are to be antagonistic so if one is extremely high the other should be extremely low
Iv read a number of studies that say copper in high amounts becomes biounavailable which could account for alot of other problems
After the zinc supplementing didnt work I started looking for other possible causes, primarily thyroid, adrenal, or mold related
I dont have enough energy these days, its taken me hours of broken concentration to finish writing this
The only good thats come out of this is all my dreams, I sleep alot and tend to have very pleasant/vivid dreams
Hey Over the edge!
According to your hair test, you definitely have copper toxicity! The 5 mg per meal you took is very less. (Or did you mean to type 50 MG?)Its even less than what Cutler recommends = 50mg x 3 day.
One stated symptom of Copper imbalance is Pancreatic dysfunction. And you could have both low HCL and Pancreatic production as I do. This is common enough in fatigue issues.
CurlyAnn, on this forum has seen results in 5 days just by following the low copper diet. This diet is found in Ann Louise Gittleman 's book "Why am I so tired?".
I empathize with the brain fog and difficulty to concentrate. I think with copper detoxification you will be on the right track and see results soon. Hang in there!
This sounds exactly like my situation! I have an almost definite diagnosis because of a copper iud I have for a collected 4 years. It started the same way for me and turned into pancreatitis. The first ER dr didn't check my blood and just assumed it was IBM after the xray. Gave me Bentyl and it almost killed me! 1.5 years of drs that just want to do tests and now I'm suffering greatly because I had no idea and decided to cut red meat out of my diet. My levels went through the roof and I'm now suffering going through the "dumping" process =(
I want to give you all some hope. Yes, I too had MCS. HAD, as in the past. It is possible to get through this. Yes, I was hopeless and desperate. Yes, I felt totally isolated and alone.
But this is all behind me now. I am well. I went to a psychologist who does neurofeedback. Neurofeedback helps to balance the brainwave patterns. People with MCS have very high beta waves. The delta waves represent deep sleep, theta waves represent ligher sleep, alpha waves represent meditative states or drowsiness states, and beta waves are the fully awake and alert states. (These are overgeneralizations but you get the idea.) There are several levels of beta waves. The higher the level the more anxious the person is. With MCS people present with higher levels of beta waves . The high beta waves then send messages to the mind that the situation presented is dangerous and as a result the mind then triggers various things to happen in the body ... (such as increases in certain hormones, heart rate, blood pressure etc.) By reducing the higher beta waves the anxiety levels come down and the body is given the message that everything is safe. The anxiety state that drives all of the negative effects in the body ceases and the body returns to a more balance state.
People with higher beta waves condition more quickly than people with low beta waves. What does this mean? By being around X smell, if your beta waves are low, you will not have a reaction. But, if your beta waves are higher, you would. MSC, from this standpoint, is a conditioned response.
Doing the neurofeedback is just one part of the treatment. Another part is doing diaphragmatic breathing. People with MCS typically breathe from their chest, not diaphram. (Check out your breathing right now. Put one hand on your chest, another on your stomach area. Take a deep breath. Which hand is pushed forward - the one on your chest or the one on your stomach? ) As a result the breathing is shallow and there is a CO2/O2 imbalance in the brain which causes imbalances in the body such as a hyperacidic state, tight muscles, indigestion, sleep problems, panic attacks, anxiety, heart palpitations, etc, etc etc. I did diaphragmatic breathing for 30 min twice a day.
Are your hand cold or warm? Cold hands generally indicate that your beta waves are running higher than they should be . A calmer state would produce a more balanced blood flow into your hands.
The third part of this treatment is cognitive therapy. It is extremely important for the neurofeedback to work that the person stop catastophizing (this increases beta waves) and becomes more positive thinking. The thinking will impact the beta waves. So when you think unpleasant thoughts, your beta waves go up. Calm, positive thoughts bring the beta waves down. If you frequently think negatively , this will cause the beta waves to predominately be high much of the time.
As part of my healing I distanced myself from others with MCS. The beliefs did not help me, nor did any of the books, newsletters or other readings which reinforced the MCS beliefs.
I also know of people who have gotten well from MCS by doing Neuromodulation Technique, which is an energy based treatment, NAIT, another energy based treatmen, Allergy Antidotes, yet another energy based treatment.
Of course it is helpful to address whatever other imbalances that are going on in your body.
I hope this helps some people. Stay positive. It is possible to get well.
So glad to hear that this person has felt some kind of relief from the symptoms of their "disorder"... but AARRGGHH!! While reading this post...it is also apparent that this person has asked for INPUT from the curezone MCS community about cat litter. If this person is "well" or even "much better" why seek input from the community they have "shunned" or "disengaged themselves" from? Also, it seems that the person has confused CHEMOPHOBIA for MCS, because MCS is not an "anxiety" attack and neither is it a psychological reaction to a "perceived" danger, and it is not the ungrounded/unfounded "FEAR of chemicals". The medical, and scientific fields have confirmed time and again that toxic chemicals and their fumes and food additives and pharmaceuticals cause physical bodily injuries and even death. It does not matter if you are "prayed up", it doesn't matter if you are the healthiest person on the planet. It is PHYSICS - the human body was not created to withstand these synthetic toxic substances without being harmed or killed. Burned airways, heavy metal poisoning, toxic overload, toxic-induced loss of tolerance, chemical injuries, cancers, aplastic anemia, etc. will not be "cured" by psychological or "energy" therapies such as NMT, NAET, NF... Insights into coping mechanisms while enduring the injuries might be gained, but the FALSE "HOPE" that is offered by this post is in, of all things, the psychological field! How demeaning to the MCS Community that has worked so hard to get out from under the "psychobabble" that MCS is a psychological disorder all these years - just like the people with MS had to work so hard for so many years before it became acknowledged that MS is not a psychological disorder! It appears that this person has believed the LIE - that human beings (or ANY LIFE for that matter) can continue to expose themselves to toxic chemicals, food additives , heavy metals, and pharmaceuticals without being adversely affected with injury, illness, or death. What kind of AGENDA is being promoted? The kind that would tell a person who is allergic to peanuts to go ahead and eat peanuts because the peanuts won't hurt them - that anaphylactic shock is all in their mind? The kind of agenda that says to people who have chemical sensitivities to go ahead and expose themselves to these toxins because they won't hurt them - that the adverse effects are all in their mind? Psychological therapy does not change or fix GENETICS - even the scientific community says that about 10% of Caucasians cannot metabolize xenobiotics, pharmaceuticals, etc. The HOPE is that through EDUCATION humanity will stop creating and using these synthetic toxic substances. Until such time, avoidance (as much as possible) of the toxic substances, detox and cleansing, rebuilding and supporting our immune systems, fresh air (as much as possible), eating the least toxic foods, and knowledge are important in getting through it all.
I will respond to this email. Yes I asked about issues around products to remove cat pee smells from carpet...mostly because my husband is fearful of the mcs returning as a result of a kitty accident and using something that would cause the whole thing to start up again. HE is fearful. I am not. I asked this community because of that. He does not want me to get another cat because of his fear. I do want a cat and so am committed to finding a way that will appease his fear.
Now, you can see why I don't want to have my email available to this community because I don't want to be on the receiving end of these sorts of rantings. Also you can now see why I have been reluctant to put this story out there, however I felt that I wanted others to hear options.
If all of what I said is "psychobabble" then why is it that many people , having been treated with the protocol that I outlined, are now well? I can be around perfume and am fine, I can eat out in a restaurant and am fine, I can go to full day lectures and workshops with many other women and am fine, I can go into stores and am fine. Can you do these things? I was not able to do this when I was sick. If this is "psychobabble" then why is that true?
Also why is it true then that the neurofeedback can show at baseline how the nervous system is OUT OF BALANCE and then after doing diaphragmatic breathing for 20 minutes how the system becomes more balanced? That is objective data.
The kinds of things in your post are the exact thoughts that create higher beta waves as demonstated objectively using the neurofeedback tracings. Anger, resentment, fear...all of that causes higher beta waves and sets up the body for a reaction.
Try getting over your anger and open your mind up to other ways of thinking. If this makes you angry that is your choice.
"For God does not give us a spirit of fear, but of power, and of love, and of a sound mind." "Knowledge of the truth shall set you free."
My mind is open to knowledge of the truth and not to every whim of man.
People who, seeing the warnings and knowing the consequences, choose to believe the UNTRUTH that continued exposure to toxic chemicals will not hurt them, reveals how entrenched and addicted people are.
When the manufacturers of these toxic products themselves put WARNING labels on some of these products saying they can cause illness, injury, and yes even death, it is the manufacturers telling the truth about their products. When the pharmaceutical industry puts warning info in their packets, that say their products can cause side effects, injury, illness, and even death it is the pharmaceutical industry telling the truth about their product. When the food manufacturers put warning labels that what is in their foods may cause injury, illness, allergic reaction including death, it is the food manufacturers telling people what may happen if people use their products. When chemical manufacturers make MSDS sheets about their products that declare their products are known to cause cancer, SENSITIVITIES, injury, illness, etc. the manufacturer is telling people what may happen upon exposure to that product.
ALL TELLING PEOPLE THE TRUTH ABOUT THEIR PRODUCTS!
Do people think those manufacturers are lying? It is not out of fear that people should avoid these products, it is following the advice of their own sound mind which has acquired the knowledge of the truth from the warnings provided by the manufacturers themselves as well as the knowledge of what has happened to people who have used and continue to use the products, and by information provided by the NIH, WHO, INTOX, INCHEM.
It is not me promoting fear, but it IS me who is telling people to HEED THE WARNINGS the manufacturers are providing outright. It is me who promotes Dr. Hulda Clark 's and so many others' books who recommend not using these toxic products and avoid them as much as possible because they are detrimental to a person's good health. It seems that your husband genuinely cares about your continued good health and is not just acting out of fear - like the caregiver of a person who is allergic to peanuts is dilligent about that person not being exposed to peanuts, avoidance of the peanuts to keep them from experiencing serious adverse effects from that exposure to peanuts.
Why would a person of sound mind WANT to subject themselves to the kinds of adverse effects and reactions these products are known to cause - whether the adverse effects and reactions are immediate or whether they happen later on down the road?
Why would a person of sound mind WANT to support the manufacturers of products intentionally made to kill - such as chlorine - which was created and used in the world wars to kill people.
Why would a person of sound mind promote the lie that MCS is caused by and is solely a psychological problem when it is more likely the case that the chemical/heavy metal exposure is the cause of a psychological problem? Some products were created to alter human neurological and psychological behavior. Just look at the TV ads for them. The users can't even function normally because all they want to do is inhale the product - and that is not even people who have MCS! There again, the manufacturers showing you what their products can do to people.
There IS such a thing as Toxic Inhalation Injury!
Why would a person of sound mind be "happy" that they "get" to go shopping in a mall or store where their mind intentionally gets altered by the inhaled chemical products, etc.; or "gets" to go out to eat in a restaurant that cooks with GAS and that serves food full of unhealthy additives, etc.; or "gets" to go to a church where the mind gets altered by highly scented candles and mineral spirits, etc.?
Why aren't people "happy" anymore without those "things"?
Why aren't people "happy" with the natural?
Why isn't the natural "good enough" anymore?
As far as the people who got "well" from the NF, NAET, etc. Maybe they were at a stage of MCS where it was still reversible. It is unknown what symptoms they were "cured" of: Severe Migraines? Facial Swelling? Paralysis? Unable to hold down food? Tremors? Seizures? Cancers? Aplastic Anemia? Metallosis? Asthma? Skin Problems?Diabetes? Food Allergies? Inflammation? Hallucinations? Catatonia? Anxiety? Liver Damage? Brain Damage? Lung Damage? Heart Damage? Chemically-Acquired Immune Dysfunction? Neuromuscular Disorder?
MuchBetter, Well, since you did not address me when replying that you did not mean to suggest that MCS was only a psychological disorder and lashed out at me as if my anger is a bad thing, I am posting these experts' statements explaining that all anger is not "bad".
"Ideally, good anger was a sense given to an individual as a tool to condemn injustice and help build relationships. In pure form, anger is an emotional signal that alerts a person that something needs to be changed. It obviously was intended to be a positive motivator to be used in giving one another feedback about how life can be lived more productively. Unhealthy behavior must be understood and realized that it has consequences. Unhealthy behavior can be changed... it must be changed, or there can be no hope for a healthier society in the future. To do nothing but complain will surely leave people unprepared to respond to the challenges the future will bring.
Anger can cause conflict and conflict is a normal part of relationships.
Anger can provide an opportunity for a better understanding of another person.
When someone cares enough to take the time to resolve a conflict, that person demonstrates caring. Conflicts can occur because of the differences between individuals. Relationships do not have to be destroyed because of those differences. Rather, recognizing the differences and viewing them in mature, responsible, positive ways instead of being fearful or unwilling to work through differences gives credence to the positive side of anger. Every person must learn to recognize the positive and negative effects of anger. Few people take the time to observe their actions when under stress or when their behavior is openly challenged. "
" Being angry is a necessary emotion and reaction. As with many emotions God has given us, it is used to accomplish something. "
I am not resentful that MuchBetter is better, I said I was glad didn't I? I sincerely meant that! I am better than when I first got sick also, but to suggest that MCS is all psychological and has only been cured by psychological therapies is not acknowledging that the whole person needs to be addressed.
By the way, just like all human beings, I do get angry. The kind of angry I get is the same kind as Christ was when he threw the moneychangers out of the temple for ripping the people off. The kind of anger that pushes me to hopefully spur people to think for themselves and to take action where their health is concerned. Things do need to change when manufacturers can take an otherwise harmless statement like "I get to use and expose myself to these products now and I am okay" which actually furthers the manufacturers own moneymaking agenda. At the same time they are insinuating that something must be mentally wrong with a person who has MCS, since they can't tolerate their products, so they should seek help only from a psychiatrist or psychologist because theirs are the only therapies that cure MCS, when in fact these manufacturers themselves state the adverse physical health effects and even death these products can cause - especially to that 10% of the people who cannot metabolize them due to genetics - but people just don't heed the warnings.
Let me be clear. I did not suggest that MCS is "all psychological". Nor did I suggest that it has been cured by "psychological therapies". Neurofeedback is not a psychological therapy. Diaphragmatic breathing is not a psychological therapy.I also stated that imbalances in the body such as nutritional imbalances , hormonal imbalances, etc. needed to be addressed.
When someone gets an antiseizure drug , their brainwave patterns are changed. When someone gets neurofeedback, their brainwave patterns are changed. These are physiological changes in the brain which are identified via objective testing. One tool is medication, another is neurofeedback. Both have the same resulting effect. Changed brainwaves.
Another way to change brainwaves (although it takes longer) is to change thought patterns. Negative thoughts create higher beta waves. Positive thoughts create calmer, lower beta waves. While being hooked up to both neurofeedback and biofeedback devices I could see the effect of upsetting thoughts (higher beta waves)along with other responses in my body (galvanic skin response changes, respiration changes, body temperature changes) compared to positive thoughts which produced lower beta waves and resultingly more balanced responses in my body as measured via galvanic skin response, respiration, body temperature, etc. All of this is objective data.
And yes, sometimes it is a good thing to be angry and to express it. It is when this manner of expression is the predominant one, that blow ups and confrontations are commonplace , that your brainwave patterns become stuck in the higher beta wave levels and thus negatively impacts your autonomic nervous system which in turn sets the stage for illness.
Whatever you believe however will determine how you will perceive information. It is your filter system. If you believe that MCS is "X", and I say it is "Y", then regardless of what I say you will see this as incorrect. This is not meant as an invalidation of you or of what you have gone through with this illness.
Bruce Lipton, who used to teach medical students, has an excellent book out about beliefs called Biology of Beliefs. Perhaps you might be willing to read it to get another point of view about health and healing in general.
I am seeing conflicting information and wanted to kind of clarify what I am understanding from your statements and what I have read about neurofeedback. At first you said that because you were desperate and felt isolated, due to what you said was MCS, that you went to a psychologist who administered neurofeedback, yet in a later post you said that neurofeedback is not a psychological therapy. From what I read about it, it seems to be used as a phychological therapy based on the theory of the Pavlov's dog experiment where the dog was rewarded for acceptable behavior - whatever behavior was acceptable to the dog or behavior that was acceptable to the scientist performing the experiment. In other words, neurofeedback rewards the person for acceptable behavior in the form of acceptable brainwave patterns - whatever the therapist deems as acceptable or whatever the person receiving the therapy deems is acceptable behavior.
I am concerned that, from what your posts state, and from what I read about neurofeedback, MCS may be considered by some to be "unacceptable behavior" and thereby considered a behavioral disorder - which it is not. From what I read, neurofeedback is like a video game where the person is rewarded when their brainwaves reach an acceptable level - whether the acceptable level is defined by the therapist or by the person receiving the therapy. Some articles expressed that the person is "guided" into a deep meditative altered mental state to achieve the goal. Some articles stated that people were made worse due to neurofeedback and they were permanently neurologically damaged.
Illness and chemical injuries do not occur because of your mental status. Your mental status does not "set you up" for injuries from toxic chemicals and your mental status does not "set you up" for illness. Malaria does not care what your mental status or what your brainwave pattern is. Lyme disease does not care what your mental status is nor what your brainwave pattern is. Chemical fumes do physical damage to the body no matter what your mental status is, no matter what your brainwave pattern is. Radioactive products do damage no matter what your mental status is, no matter what your brainwave pattern is.
Whether these items do damage over time, or whether the damage happens immediately upon exposure depends on the amount, the physical form it is in, and exactly what the product doing the damage is.
Birds cannot be trained not to die from non-stick product coated cookware fumes while someone in the house is cooking in a non-stick product coated pan.
Frogs cannot be trained to not get malformations when they are exposed to chemicals such as those in pesticides and runoff from chemical plants, etc.
Humans cannot be trained to not have their airways burned and scarred from toxic chemical fumes like ammonia, chlorine, etc.
So, logically, just changing or controlling brainwave patterns cannot keep a human being or an animal from having adverse reactions upon exposure to chemicals, biological, radioactive, or nuclear products which are known to cause illness, injury, and death - not even at low levels (which happens to people who have MCS because their bodies are incapable of metabolizing properly - whether due to genetics, damage, overload, etc.) and not even in those who are considered to be physically, spiritually, and mentally balanced. It is physics.
A lot of the products were created to do just that - cause damage, cause death, and cause injury. This is not just a "belief" and has nothing to do with a belief system. Whether or not you "believe" chemicals and NBRs cause injury, death, illness - they still do so - that is a known fact.
The truth is not in just the believing it is in the knowing.
The thing about neurofeedback is that it is a way to balance brain wave patterns. "MCS" per se is not identified or labeled in any way. The person doing the treatment is merely looking at the brainwave pattern presented. Anything seen out of balance is identified as out of balance (too high, too low, etc) and treated by bringing the brainwaves slowly back to a more balanced state.
There are some medical doctors doing neurofeedback. It is not a "psychological treatment" per se. One opthamologist uses it for people who are nearsighted to correct their vision.
The issue here is that a more balanced brain will allow the body to be working at its optimal level. Thus the immune system will be strong and the likelihood of getting other illnesses is lessened. Or if the person does contract something their immune system is strong and they are able to recover much faster and more easily than someone with a weakened immune system.
Accidents certainly can happen to damage the body regardless of your mental status. The issue becomes whether or not the initial damage moves into a more general problem associated with more and more exposures (as in mcs) or if it just ends with that one incident.
Muchetter...I would ignore this person he or she sounds a bit nutty. Good to hear a postive story once in a while. I have come across others who have beat MCS and are very normal today. They dont even bother telling people their stories because people are so sceptical in the 1st place. Any advice from you would help the community greatly. Thanks
Thank you . I really do appreciate your response. You might want to read Symphony of the Brain... (or maybe it's Symphony in the Brain?) which talks about neurofeedback. Also Bruce Lipton's book Biology of Beliefs is very interesting as he talks about how your beliefs literally change your biology at a cellular level. Depok Chopra also is good to read as he talks about the mind body connection.
I did not mean to suggest that MCS is a psychological disorder. The mind has great impact on the body and thus the way a person thinks, believes, and feels will impact his or her physiology creating wellness or illness. To address just the physical level alone for any illness is being shortsighted.
People with MCS are focused on avoiding toxic chemicals, toxic foods, etc. There are also toxic people and toxic thinking that also should be avoided. Avoid negative people, people who catastrophize, people who fill you with fear, anger, or other forms of upset. Sometimes it means not listening to the news or reading the newspaper. Sometimes it means letting the answering machine pick up and not talking to someone who drains you. Focus on positive events and activities, positive thoughts, healing stories. Fill your mind with positives.
If you have any further questions about this protocol or others that I have listed please let me know.
Thank you for your post. I discovered on my own the "breathing" problems with myself and have experimented with it and have had some success. I've had full blown MCS for about 8 months since a major paint exposure and am determined to get well. I believe that there is an anxiety component to all of this and have felt those affects also. Again, I appreciate your post and plan on investigating your approach. Please respond to this reply. I would like to discuss further. Thanks
MUCHBETTER, I recently sent you a private message pertaining to your post about recovering from MCS by doing Neurofeedback. Did you receive it? I am doing neurofeedback for ocd/anxiety/depression, but it's in a room where there is new carpet. I have gotten sensitized to other things (I think, as other chemicals around me smell a lot stronger suddenly) even though I wear a mask during neurofeedback. My neurofeedback therapist says because my beta waves are very high, that this therapy will help eliminate MCS. But I'm struggling to get through sessions because of the chemicals around me. Makes me unable to fully relax, too. My question is, will neurofeedback enable me to overcome MCS even when I'm doing the sessions in chemicals that bother me? I'm so confused. Hoping for a reply from you, even though your post is so many years old.
Hello and thank you for any help you might provide or even an opinion to help us find the cause of our suffering. This is a long crazy story, something akin to a bad Hollywood movie gone wrong, so I will try to be blunt, short, and to the point. For reasons I can’t explain online, I am only able to say so much. ... ... I got involved with a group of friends that apparently have a huge secret to hide and I do t know what that secret is but I do know I’m a threat to their secret. I’m affiliated with the police department through a family member, and these people I thought were friends apparently ... [This message is long. Retrieve the whole message]
A little more to add to this story. I've worked construction for ten years. Mostly remodeling and during this time I've removed enough drywall with black mold to fill ten dumpsters. I've built cabinets and worked in a screen printing shop making signs and t-shirts. Basically I've been exposed to more volatile chemicals than most, including laquour, varnish, paints, solvents, etc. One year ago I was healthy. I could grab two bundles of shingles (160 pounds) and run up a steep roof and stock them, and return to the edge for more, often lapping past most other grown men. I'm six feet tall 175 pounds and normally could run half a mile or more before tiring out. Not the greatest of health but I had strength and endurance. Lately, I'm sleeping 14 hours and still tired when I get up. The last time I tried to run, I could run a few hundred yards, and had to break for a moment. After several sprints like that, I was to worn out to go on and laid down flat on the floor gasping for air. It took over thirty minutes for my heart rate to calm down.
Other symptoms I have experienced at first were extreme sweating and drooling. My armpits felt like I had scrubbed them with sand and one time I blew my nose christalized type stuff came out. Looked like glitter.
I watched a show called prisoners handbook. There was a 12 year old boy who poisoned his own family and killed his mom. He took detailed notes, noting how much poison it took to make her throw up. Something is jus wrong in some peoples brains to think this way.
Anyway I gave the history of past exposure to occupational chemicals because it could be related somehow. I know the standard approach or advice would be to turn this person in but I can't and won't for fear of more problems. I don't know what I'm posting for but was hoping someone could help by possibly identifying what this person might have used on me. It seems the substance won't be found durrring my lifetime, at that point it will be to late. If you do, however have any ideas please throw them out there, I've been researching for ten months and can't figure it out.
Im unsure of what you mean. But yes, this person has recorded me as well as poisoned me. A friend of this person said they have recorded me a lot, mostly to make fun of me being paranoid of what's happened to me which means they sent someone else to record or somehow are using some form of electronic gizmos
I've got a new vacume vial and can send it to you if you could do anything with it. Problem is most chemicals are expelled fast and only damage remains. Testing blood for chemicals is kinda iffy because the chemicals are usually distributed through fat and organs. I wish I could get or find a Dr that would do a fat biopsy and test spinal fluids.
http://www.prohealth.com/library/showarticle.cfm?libid=22177 ... ... Reprinted with the kind permission of Cort Johnson and Health Rising. ... ... By Cort Johnson ... ... It seems every week brings more news highlighting the surprising importance the gut has on our health. ... ... A couple of years ago the Solve ME/CFS Initiative funded a pilot study on the effects of exercise on chronic fatigue syndrome (ME/CFS) patients gut flora. It was one of those multi-faceted studies that Suzanne Vernon loved funding. There was an exercise component, a gut component, a blood and stool component and a time component. I ... [This message is long. Retrieve the whole message]
Does anyone suffering from extreme chemical sensitivities know of a non-toxic laptop or chrome book brand? I think probably iPad deluxe may be good since it's sealed but I need something with a good keyboard. I just bought a Toshiba chrome book, but I cannot tolerate the chemicals from the processor. I had thought that buying something relatively cool and fanless would be good. I use my iPhone for everything and it has never bothered me.
This has happened to me many times over the years. It never ever has happened when I have been doing any detoxing, fasting, green juice fasting, parasite cleanses, liver flushes, heavy metal chelations, mercury filling removals, infrared saunas, enemas etc etc. It always happens at times when I'm not doing anything. Though one thing I have done recently as I'm getting ready to start with Iodine, and I'm waiting for my co factors to come in, so I have been salt loading, as I have also read that unrefined Sea Salt can help with headaches. I know it can release bromide. But an FYI not that this may matter with the environment we live in etc, I haven't eaten bread products etc etc for over 10 years, or processed foods, sugars etc.
What happens is I will start getting a temporal headache. It will come and go. If I try to take anything nothing will work to take it away. I will feel exhausted, and eventually go to sleep. Or try to. Once in bed the pounding increases, and my mind begins racing, images flashing over my minds eyes as if channel surfing. I can feel my heartbeat pounding. My body gets very warm... I have to get up because the pounding has increased. My head feels as if it weighs a ton. My neck if I move it to stretch cracks, and pops, shoulders feel heavy cracking and popping if I move them to stretch. I have to pace around until the feeling of throwing up comes and I have to run to the bathroom to vomit. Wash and repeat. With each vomit, the head ache decreases.
It's not the food I ate, as when I vomit I'm not even throwing up food, I'm throwing up liquid. I will keep throwing up, ( meaning because I hate vomiting, I will throw up, then walk around pace, then back to toilet) until I finally throw up a sour like liquid. Finally by this time the tension has decreased the headache has lessened greatly. The heaving causes me to sweat, and I just feel so much better that I can finally lay down and fall asleep. But then the days that follow my neck and shoulders and head still feel heavy, getting better with each day, and slight aching, but nothing as bad as pre-vomiting sensation. But the neck tension, the shoulders the heavy sensation was there pre vomiting so it wasnt the heaving that caused the neck tension as it was there before.
It's not food poisoning, as I have felt that and its different. Didnt eat anything new and exotic. So I'm wondering has anyone experienced this? Is it metals? the mind racing copper dumping? I have read toxins can be stored in shoulders neck? But just trying to see if anyone may have experienced this?
what they may have done to help it? It takes 3 days to feel not feel the tension, and the ache anymore. Where as a normal head ache is gone the same day, or the next and responds to treatments.
how often does this happen?
does it happen after fatty meals?
be careful with the iodine, go very slow
i had similar symptoms and Thyroid Calming herbs helped
i still take Iodine by the way as it is needed for a healthy functioning thyroid whether you are hypo or hyper
how old are you?
are you allergic to MSG?
without knowing the answers to my questions these things come to mind as possibilities and I suspect they are likely to occur together and support each other synergistically~
OverActive thyroid due to nutritional deficiency of iodine
High Blood Pressure and hardening of the arteries from plaque
Maybe 3 or 4 times all together over the past 10 or so years where I have had to violently throw up. But I get those similar headaches, too many times to count, but as long as I catch it early, warm up, bundle up, take something it will lessen.
I live in Cali, so it's not super duper cold. I take public transportation, so sitting around outside on colder days waiting for buses, walking. I also have to sleep with my legs and arms covered or I wont sleep well, and could get a headache as a result. My temp is my apartment is always set higher, as I also feel cold in the morning waking even if it's 78 deg in my apartment, with a light jacket shirt pajamas to sleep in.
In warmer weather my skin can be shiny, and a bit oily. More dry in the winter.
I also always wake up with my parotid glands swollen. Right side more so. It lessens but never goes away. Is never painful in the least. Had my mercury fillings removed years ago, which I didn't have many to begin with. I was told once it could be chemical sensitivities causing it to swell as the gland is like a spunge. I took the nutrients etc. But still to this day it's always a bit swollen. Not as massive as some of the pics I see online at all, but still noticeable to me.
Try taking some niacin and see if that makes the headache go away.
If so, and the parotid gland is swelling because of a salivary stone, then perhaps your body is not using calcium properly. Plaque could be involved. Do you take K2m7 and lie naked in the sunshine for 20 minutes every day? If not, there could be a complexity issue with calcium/thyroid/plaque.
It sounds like an accumulated toxic reaction, to me. You can get that from not only food, but environmental stuff like cleaning agents or laundry soap, dish washing liquids, shampoos or body wash, etc. Start tracking that, and I'm guessing you'll find something you use regularly is the culprit. But it's taking repeated multiple exposures to get enough to cause the reaction. And since I just read, it haasn't happened recently, you might have started using something you'd stopped using so it might be easy to figure out. :)
I hear ya. But all my cleaning stuff is chemical free, natural organic. Shampoo, tooth paste, dish washing.
But I do live in an apartment with carpet, and I keep meaning to buy some plants I read an article about from NASA about the best kind that cleans the air and the kind that cleanses the most chemicals. To test to see... As well as getting activated carbon bits to help cleanse the air to see.
But as mentioned the only thing different was I was salt loading that day, ( yum love it) to prepare for taking Iodine soon, and I was having a bit more vitamin c then usual that day... but nothing crazy. Also had magnesium, zinc in the day separated from each other. But that isnt new per say. The salt loading was. I love salt... :)
The carpets surely don't help, but have you had your appliances check for leaks? Drive a lot? Walk around by roads with lots of cars? Or worse yet, run by such roads?
And just because a label say organic or chemical-free doesn't mean they aren't just lying through their teeth, unfortunately, to try and get a piece of the 'health' action. Be suspicious of it all.
Try switching shampoos first, see if that helps. I think it's worse than other personal care products because some small amount tends to remain--touted as conditioning agents.
And try doing any exercise, walking even, away from those roads. It may be a combination of things accumulating and to which you are extra sensitive.
And of course lightening the load on your immune system by deparasiting (the eggs are everywhere and everyone has them) to allow your immune system to regain more function to help clear the toxins, would be helpful too. Just because they haven't gotten bad enough to manifest a disease yet (it takes a while), doesn't mean they aren't there.
I honestly don't think salt loading had much of anything to do with it, unless the salt itself is contaminated.
Historic Proclamation on the Causes of MCS and Other Chronic Health Problems
Porphyria & MCS are also the ultimate causes of why so many people react to so many foods & environmental chemicals and EMFs.
Please be advised that Steven Rochlitz—the former physics professor and holistic health educator and author—on Nov. 3, 2015—made an historic porphyria and MCD proclamation to readers of his first porphyria [and MCD] book, PORPHYRIA: The Ultimate Cause of Common, Chronic and Environmental Illnesses. With Breakthoughs in Diet, Supplements and Energy Balancing. The proclamation was based on massive evidence and previous declarations, and stated that porphyria is not only “not rare” as declared by three British physicians in 1957, but is a COMMON disorder.
Before we return to porphyria, we should note that Prof. Rochlitz also declared that mast cell disease is a common illness. In his Porphyria books, Rochlitz shows just how porphyria usually leads to MCD. MCD is then more easily testable for several reasons.
Returning to MCD, Rochlitz has cited in his books that the commonly prescribed beta-blocker drugs induce chronic MCD [or MCAS], most likely in the hidden porphyric. This is also why MCD sufferers are difficult to treat. MCD sufferers adversely react to anti-histamine, and many other drugs, and even vitamins—and these are likely porphyric reactions, Rochlitz asserts. Furthermore, some common illnesses like cystitis and heart failure are actually MCD syndromes, as are some forms of arthritis and other maladies. Numerous foods, and food additives like the ubiquitous MSG, then ensure that MCD is a common malady.
Let’s return now to porphyria . In 1957, 3 British medical physicians— JB Gibson, WE Parkes, and CF Brennan —published their findings after testing people throughout Great Britain, that acute [intermittent] porphyria was “not rare” throughout Britain. Furthermore, around that time renowned Swedish medical professor Waldenstrom freed many patients in Swedish mental institutions after correctly re-diagnosing them with porphyria.
Furthermore in Rochlitz’s first Porphyria book, he has cited published journal articles which linked porphyria to causing the common disorders of Alzheimer’s, MCS, and fibromyalgia.
Also cited therein was the published work of Drs Stratton and Mitchell on testing patients with arthritis and Chlamydia pneumoniae, whose findings showed that that organism and/or the antibiotics prescribed often induced porphyria.
This is coupled with Rochlitz’s 35 years of seeing clients with Candida, parasites, Lyme’s, viruses, who acquired porphyria from the micro-organisms’ endotoxins, and/or the porphyrinogenic drugs or herbs used against them.
In addition to micro-organism infection, environmental toxins commonly induce chronic porphyria. These toxins include mercury and other heavy metals, mold toxins, pesticides, formaldehyde, drugs, and other toxins.
Further still is how often “mental illness” is really porphyria, including anxiety, depression, hysteria, OCD, schizophrenia, paranoia, and bipolar disorder—where the manic phase is a porphyria attack, according to Prof. Rochlitz.
Other common syndromes or symptoms that often are due to porphyria include reactive hypoglycemia, obesity, autism, pain syndromes, and multiple food sensitivities—where allergy tests prove fruitless, because the reactions are porphyric and not allergeric.
Regarding pain syndromes and frequent, subsequent, adverse drug reactions, to this day there is still much needless gall bladder, or other organ, removal or exploratory surgery with no diseased organ findings. Note that Rochlitz’s books offer trigger point, vagus nerve point balancing, and other non-drug energy balancing that can help immediately with pain and other problems.
Further still are the unexplained skin symptoms including blistering from the sun, or rashes, whereby drugs do not help and only worsen the problem.
Further still are many adverse drug reactions involving either the nervous system or the skin, and are often falsely labeled as allergic reactions when they are often really porphyric ones. Similarly many cases of epilepsy are due to porphyria, and this accounts for the frequent severe [porphyric] reactions of many epileptics to most anti-seizure drugs.
Indeed Rochlitz notes that many people are made sicker, not better by megavitamins also. Again Rochlitz cites porphyria and specifically Cytochrome P450 [a heme-protein] deficiency and attempted induction as often causing this.
For all the above evidence, articles and 35 years experience with clients, and to counter the arbitrary changes made to diagnosis interpretations, and circular logic, in recent years, Prof Steven Rochlitz did declare what he said was clearly evident, namely that Porphyria is not just “not rare” in our species, but is a COMMON disorder.
For more information, see Prof. Rochlitz’s wellatlast dot com site or http://www.wellatlast.com The testimonials page there has a link to a recent, radio interview of him by a British nutritionist. She said she was “in awe” of his knowledge.
I am not clear on whether it is a good idea to use essential oils on my skin while fasting. I use coconut oil/jojoba/argan on my skin anyway, fasting or not, since except for the humid summer, my skin is generally dry and would otherwise break.
I was thinking to continue putting few drops of sandal oil or myrrh or oregano oil, too. What are your thoughts?
I also dry brush my skin fasting or not, twice a week, and additionally give it a good wet rub with exfoliation once a week.
I have always used oils on my skin during a fast and when not fasting.
I know that Ayurvedic fasting centers give you oil massages. My in-laws went to one such center when vacationing, they came out feeling great and losing some weight.
Logically speaking, if the oils help your skin and internal organs when not fasting, it will surely help during a fast.
As per my doctor, keep rotation of different oils. I use coconut oil, almond oil, sesame oil, mustard oil with occasional mixing a few drops of essential oils, such as lavendar, peppermint, Rosemary or tea tree oil.
Thank you, Archus!
I feel less guilty now to not be such a purist and use oils. Lol.
I will try the suggested by you oils once I finish what I have.
It is true, some of the oils will get into the systemic circulation and will feed other organs beside the skin, but hey, we are not getting to let yourselves to be covered with blisters and cracks just to avoid that; digestion however will not occur... so we can assume it would have been the same if I ate or applied these oils pre-fast and they got stored, then they got in the blood while fasting ...
Arguably, we can say that minerals in the tap water are also feeding us, although I use distilled, but there is also the shower :) ...
I will also have foot soaking with Epsom, since I don't have tub, or I may spray it on me. I may resort to spraying some potassium bicarbonate/phosphate also on my skin, since last time I had to interrupt for unremitting painful muscle contraction. Obviously some mineral got low.
Cramps during a fast are also symptoms of alignment. In my many fasts I had 3 fasts in a row when I had leg cramps. It took me two to three days to clear that up. In one short fast the cramps started after I was feeding for a few days. Most people with knee problems have weak knee support muscles and nothing wrong with the joint or bone. Leg press and some simple exercises will help strengthening of those muscles.
Thank you for the links, I will watch them thoroughly.
I am hoping it is alignment. Although the cramp was right where my back is always overworked due to scoliosis. I don't know if I should call it cramp or smth more sinister, since the muscle did not relax at all whatever I did - lying, stretching, bending, sleeping. It remitted shortly after taking potassium bicarbonate, about 1 g, then I started feeding.
My exercises need to be very gentle and from special starting position - with my back compensating the curve. Fitness equipment is pretty standard and unsuitable for people with particular needs.
I am not like most people, I am part of that 1% of the population that have weak connective tissue.
I have serious cartilage damage, I know for sure and it is impossible for me to do leg presses or similar training not only because of the knees but also because of my back misalignment. If I did 5-10 counts of leg press, I'll have to stay 3 weeks home to repair the further damage, if possible to repair it. The damage in certain joints - like in my neck are just a degree before total fusion. So when I hear cracking sounds during movement it is a signal for me to stop or change the movement if I have to continue working, or whatever I am doing. Just walking downstairs is already painful on some of the days, so leg press is impossible.
BTW, in my humble opinion, one needs to be careful with the leg press - respect having a good lumbar curve (lordosis) while performing them (best is to replace with half-squats in my opinion). There are trainers saying regular leg press will injure the lumbar discs, it is just a matter of time or how strong initially the discs were.
I am planning to fast soon, too :)
The Sun around here is still showing up in most days, so it is enticing to go out and get a good portion of solar rays. Although, I plan on moving only if I need to - like in doing my laundry and sitting, changing positions while reading. I will be taking a break in order to be able to heal maximally.
I am so tired of being young while not being able to do what most young people do - move freely, run, climb with no restriction and enjoy life without anticipating when the pain is going to be back. It is back on most of the days. Sighs.
I have eliminated most cooked, processed food and coffee and alcohol. I hope after the fast to stay 100% clean from these until I get the feeling that I am totally pain free. Then I may have Dal or my mom's soups once in a while, providing she doesn't put wheat powder for thickness. My family has some good habits, but also some awful once.
I am sorry to hear about your health issues. Ifcartilage is worn out there is not much you can do. Now they have many companies with artificial gel lubrication for knee joint that every knee specialist you go to is connected to a different company. My sister went thru thus and finally replaced her knee joint.
One example of knee joint injections is here......
Thank you, Archus!
I love Baba Ramdev. I am downloading the videos.
I will first see what I can do without injections and then will think how to proceed.
My mother has a knee replacement, but I will hopefully avoid it. Surgeons have found that when putting metal on the joint surface, cartilage can still grow underneath, provided the gritting crystals (toxin ones or Calcium salts that the body used to neutralize the offending toxic substances and were left out in the joint) that induced the ware-and-tare are not irritating the cartilage surface anymore.
I have still cartilage left, so I am very hopeful.
I am planing to fast next week, too.
Glad to hear that you have the cartilage there for you to make some improvements.
I AM SORRY, I WANT TO CORRECT WHAT I WROTE EARLIER ABOUT GEL INJECTIONS FOR YOUR KNEES. IF YOU HAVE ANY CARTILAGE IN YOUR KNEE JOINT DO NOT TAKE THE GEL INJECTIONS, THEY ACTUALLY HARM YOUR KNEES, THEY WILL DEPLETE THE CARTILAGE AND DEPOSIT JUNK FROM WARE AND TARE IN THE JOINT. OH! Modern medicine.
One other exercise from Baba Ramdev is to lay on your back, raise your legs and do the bicycle action in the air, which puts no load on the knees. I cannot find that video anywhere.
Let's stay in touch during our fasts. My fast is soooooo dependant on work, appointments and home life, so cannot tell you what day I will start.
Well, I had a road block in my fasting plan. My blood work came in today before I start my fast. I was disappointed to see very low potassium and my doc is suggesting to postpone my fast and work on my imbalance of potassium.
I do not know what is knocking out my potassium.
I am so upset. I have even cheated in my diet and included some baked red and purple potatoes for last few weeks, which are high in potassium.
Yes, let's do that.
I tend to spare energy when fasting, so it would not be like posting everyday, but I feel this time it is beneficial to remain in touch.
I am not very sharing person when it comes to struggles. This is just how my character is built.
Thank you and good fasting time to you too, Archus!
I'm still fasting as well! I'm on day 15, and I'm feeling kinda crappy today :/ I have a total all-gone empty feeling in my tummy (I've had it for several days now), which I've read on here will last throughout the fast. Ah, fasting is hard business at times! Other times, it's quite easy. I think I overdid it energetically and activity-wise yesterday, and I'm paying for it. I felt good emotionally and spiritually, as if totally untouchable by any possible negativity or external circumstance. Utterly transcendent and at peace! That was awesome, but I knew I needed to rest. Plus, I got a massage, which released all kinds of lymph and toxins into my bloodstream. Guess I'm processing loads of old crap today, literally!
How's your fast going? I'd love to keep in touch with you on your journey, if you're open to it. Looking for all the mutual support and encouragement possible! :)
Certainly would be nice to exchange! :)
The only limiting factor would be energy or lack thereof on my side.
I am still preparing - eating only raw and finishing my fruit stock. I have already a nearly-empty feeling in my abdomen. I also have some more citrus and it is possible that it irritates my joints - a good thing that I found out about it.
Once I get over food cravings, there is a felling of spiritual strength indeed :) and some grasp of transcendence - like focusing on important things, not the bla-blas :)
Great! I totally understand the lack of energy piece. Will you be working while fasting or able to take the time to rest fully? Good for you for preparing with raw simple fruits. Sounds like your bodily awareness is already heightening! When do you plan to start, and how long are you thinking of fasting?
I will just take it one day at a time. I need a lot of repair, so hopefully it will be a longish fast.
I can't rest fully, I will work from home. So at least, I will not need to venture outside too much. It means also I may need to do laundry manually at home, since I have 3 floors between me and the washing room, and my heart rate is rather high if I do stairs while fasting and risk fainting even.
How long do you plan fasting? Are you working or resting while fasting?
Taking it one day at a time is my strategy as well. I originally set out to do 40 days, but I think 30 is safer and more realistic, assuming I do not experience true hunger before that time. It's good to hear you can mostly rest. I too am mostly resting and doing my best to keep my activity level low; however, there have been exceptions to this, and I know a couple days this week I will be out and about. It's amazing how much the simple act of driving can take it out of you during a fast! Please be careful with the stairs! I know I move very slowly throughout all my movements, and stairs take extra caution. If I get up too quickly, I do black-out, so it's a constant mindfulness practice with moving :)
What I mean about cramps and other symptoms is that they are part of correcting a condition that is not normal for our individual body. My cramps were mostly in my thighs in three of my fasts, and severe, but they went away in two to three days, it felt like something was straightened out.
Our bodies have innate ability to adjust by process of homeostasis, which refers to the body's balancing, centering, and stabilizing mechanisms. Homeostatic mechanisms are what enable your body to adjust to the relentless changes in your external and internal environments. It is easier for your body to maintain homeostasis when you are resting and fasting than when you are eating and engaging in activity. The conservation of energy during such a profound period of rest creates a favorable condition for the biological process of healing. The human body is programmed to always seek normality, and a properly conducted fast supports and encourages that process.
We all come to this world with our blueprint formed at the moment of conception. This blueprint is with us as we go through life, always working to bring our bodies back into an alignment of health. But the connection between this blueprint and our bodies can become weakened over time because of injury, infections, bad food choices, environmental toxicity, thought toxicity, etc. These assaults on our body cause a major disruption in our bioelectrical flows, such as meridians, chakras, auras, etc. It is my belief that a big part of the "miracle of fasting" stems from its ability to reconnect some of these stressed energy pathways.
I tend to think that when we fast, we reconnect to this blueprint in a more meaningful way. The degree we can do this then significantly affects the degree to which we can shift our state of health.
Going further in detail, when we have any type of inflammation in our body, it is designed to first protect our body, but in turn it damages other tissues while helping one part of the body. We are left with scar tissues and other junk in that part of the body, misalignments can happen, which without a stresses and perfect diet cannot be cleaned out. In this current world which we live in is highly impossible. Fasting on the other affords our body to bring those misalignments in balance by removing all unwanted junk that is caused by inflammation. This includes major issues like misaligned spine, knees, toes, fingers, etc.
I remember seeing a very old book by a doctor who made all his patients fast with water only and had before and after X’rays of spines showing alignment after a long fast. I am searching for this book, but cannot find it. It was very old, obviously.
Also Dr. McFadden has many exercises in his book for proper posture and spine alignment. I think I have that book, go to find it. I must say I am not so fond of his writing.
This is a new information for me - the books and fasting as a mean for alignment. I had been conditioned to think that alignment is simply mechanical thing. Obviously, as you say, bringing the energetic back up and freely flowing will contribute to alignment.
So far I was just trying to bring back some alignment through the Schroth system for scoliosis, and I have to say it is a tedious and though path. Also I am trying to be mindful of my postures every single minute and that takes a lot of "processor resources" from my mind - to constantly monitor and correct whichever is correctable. I hope fasting will be easier than that :)
Archus, thank you for the peroxide info.
I will add this back to my regimen.
I like the way your doctor is making things understandable and more simple to do.
I have actually taken 10 drops food grade peroxide internally for 25 days at some point.
Neumivakin has a whole system of many different ways one can use peroxide for healing. He used to do even intravenous infusions to the Russian astronauts, at some point.
My skin improved once I started cleansing and my sudden-onset food allergies went away completely. I still have candida, but not as bad as before. I have not done any serious chelating, but I've used P&B shakes, chlorella, DE, mega doses of Vitamin C and a few other things in my quest to get my symptoms under control. I'm about to start MSM to see where that takes me. I still have Amalgam fillings and have no intention (read: MONEY) of removing them any time soon, so I doubt I will get very far reducing heavy metals from my body, but after some initial, albeit accidental success I will continue to try. Good luck!
cleansing made my skin worse and increased my food intolerances. have tried everything and for a while now - vitamins, good bacteria, DE, chelating, LF, candida cleanses, etc etc etc. I've been able to control my skin via allergy testing and not eating offending foods. Antibiotics screwed me a long time ago, and heavy metals.
With chelation my candida is about 80% gone. Candida doesn't show up in my stool anymore but I still have it.
What I learned is heavy metals stress the adrenal glands and the adrenal glands is what controls candida. If ppl with candida got on adrenal support their candida would regress 50-60% almost immediately.
Thank you guys for a speedy reply! Recently, I had a fixed retainer made of stainless steal and nickel removed and I've noticed that my acne has calmed down significantly after the removal. I think this is the case because the metal is no longer leeching out and feeding the Candida. I plan on chelating because I know I'm Mercury toxic since I have all the symptoms and I have been exposed. I've heard that when first chelating your symptoms become a little worse when on round but then slowly disapate. I'll be using Cutlers technique with low doses of DMPS! With regards to testosterone, I believe I actually have low levels causing very low libido.
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