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about 3-4 weeks ago i did a 10 day fast and dropped to sub BMI of high17, low 18 (not a big deal).. I had a good few weeks of re-feeding but seemed to not put on the weight, as I was pretty cautious with what ate, broke my fast over a few days, and continued with internal cleansing every 3-4 days. If there was a special treat like home baked goods (organic, no refined flours or sugars) I would split it up over days.. so obviously careful moderation was taken.
I was about 51kg (112) 168cm (5'5'') going into the new fast (2nd oct) - which is technically underweight but no too bad... My re-feeding didn't really bulk me up though. I have not weighed myself and am wearing lots of baggy warm clothes (avoidance much??) . I have noticed that I am loosing weight more rapidly than in my previous fast. I also noticed that It was hard for me to gain any substantial weight in refeeding..
at what weight is it dangerous for me to continue to fast?
Is there a point that I should stop fasting? or should my body somehow cope and find a way to stabilise my weight?
any info/experience would be appreciated. I am not worried for myself, and I know when and how to break if it gets bad, but I would like to re-assure my family as they are seeming albeit supportive, but quite concerned.
I have been recently diagnosed via DGR labs with positive
H.pylori virulence factor vacA as positive and Guardia ssp. positive
I have written a lengthy entry here on CZ last year when I desperately needed help. Some of my symptoms are chronic fatigue, bloating, feeling inflamed inside and hot in my head, thirst, constipation, nausea, tightness under my right rib cage side,
I am underweight,
I don't know what the h.pylori virulence factor means. Could someone tell me.
As for giardia, what treatment options do I have except flagyl. I barely iterated amoxicillin last year and so antibiotics are last resort. Please share your ideas or treatments that helped.
I do not know what the virulence factor means. It might identify the strain of pylori.
H. Pylori can cause leaky gut which might be part of what is causing you problems, especially the constipation and heat/inflammation. Your body will be reacting to foods which are being absorbed into your bloodstream only partly digested and your immune system is reacting to the food molecules.
Colloidal Silver might be the best solution all round except that it is highly debatable how far it will travel before being absorbed. It might help with the giardia or it might not. It should destroy h. pylori which is the first thing that needs sorting out as that compromises your stomach and allows things like giardia to enter your body. H. pylori creates an enzyme called urease which it uses to neutralize your stomach acid which it needs to do to be able to live in the stomach. After eating protein you are likely to feel tired because of all the ammonia that gets produced in order to neutralize your stomach acid. Ammonia in large doses stops energy production which results in sleepiness.
H. Pylori creates a biofilm which is difficult to beat and antibiotics have difficulty in beating them which is why doctors use triple therapy to defeat them.
Try and get your bowel moving. Leaky gut causes a deficiency of choline which means acetylcholine production is compromised and acetylcholine is the major nerve/bowel stimulant. I use lecithin to help with constipation which can soften the stool quite well. Taking Choline can cause a body odour but lecithin does not have that problem. I tried choline but did not get along with it because it made me very tired.
Sunflower or Soya lecithin powder mixed in water with a hand blender works well. Mix up a jug and take regular doses throughout the day in water, 2 or 3 times. You might need quite a lot to get things to move at first but you might be able to reduce it once things begin to move. I mix 120 grams in 750ml of water and store it in the fridge.
thanks. I was using clove oil 2 drops in capsule 2 times daily for the past 3 days and I started to feel really weird and then stomach ache and so I stopped today. I read that clove oil is toxic. Shoot!
Yes I believe that Clove oil is toxic. I think it is okay for using as a mouth wash but I would not consume a lot of it. Be aware that if you do have leaky gut which you might have with pylori then it will put a lot of extra stress on your liver and might raise your liver enzyme levels. Therefore you do not really want anything that adds a further burden on your liver. With leaky gut the liver is having to work very hard.
Do not be put off by stomach discomfort like many people are. Some who use CS say that it upsets their stomach so that they stop taking it which is not the way to do it! These infections need to be wiped out because they cause many health problems and if my ideas are correct, some very serious ones.
BTW When using Colloidal Silver get some distilled water too. Then when taking CS add some distilled water to it so that it fills your stomach. That is important! You might be infected by other bacteria besides Pylori as there are a number which do very similar things like Pylori but are not detectable by any tests. I am fighting them ATM and taking CS gives me a slightly uncomfortable feeling in the right side of my stomach where I know there is/was a very large infection. That has diminish in the last couple of days and my iris shows a substantial reduction in the marking that was there. I don't think it is entirely gone but it is much better than it was. However there are 4 others which also need to be destroyed. The ionic CS that I purchased from Amazon is utterly useless and has practically zero effect on anything which I have tried it on so far, including a mouth infection. That is going to get a very negative review from me. I might buy a CS generator as it tends to get expensive purchasing the stuff, especially when the quality is so low. A small particle size is important as it makes it more effective.
I have been using elemental CS, a reduced Ionic silver which has worked much better than the Ionic silver that I purchased. It works for many hours at a time as I notice the feeling in my stomach when it is working. I was also getting a feeling in the back of my head ie the hypothalamus. I have Chronic-Fatigue-Syndrome and have noticed this before on occasions when using essential oils in the past. Those never really got anywhere significant and I did not like using them due to the effect they have on my liver, which already has elevated liver enzymes shown by multiple tests.
I am hoping that better quality CS will have a greater effect and finish them all off. So far so good but it still is not enough. Working with poor quality tools from Amazon is not helping TBH.
It's believed that Pylori is present in 56% of the population and there are other bacteria which are more common than Pylori IMO. Therefore you are likely to come into contact with them again in the future.
Do you think that clove oil may do a permanent damage or is this weird feeling and hyperactivity only temporary?
PS: I had a root canal treatment a month ago and I think that it now puts extra burden on me. I don't know what to do with the tooth now, should I keep it and wait or extract it.
If I was you then I would lay off the clove oil. If necessary you could break a capsule into water and use it as a mouth wash if you need to but spit it out afterwards and do not swallow. Therefore do as your school friends probably once told you ;) lol
If you get some CS then you could use that as a mouth wash and swallow it to treat your stomach and with a bit of luck the giardia.
Is your tooth causing any problems? It is difficult for me to offer advise as I am not a dentist and I have no experience of root canals. Is there an infection? CS might fix it if you regularly mouth wash with it.
BTW I have updated my previous post so please read the bottom bit which I added.
Hmm...Thank you man. Cloves are definitely something that I cannot mess with for now. I also took 2 drops 3 times a day so it might have been too much for me. It is one of the most potent natural substances,at least that is what I read, superior antioxidant properties. It might have caused a die-off but on the other hand I am poisoned with gadolinium and cloves might have stirred things up for me. I am on a roller coaster for the past few days. I also zapped for 5 days with metal plates so it also could have "released" gadolinium or killed parasites and fungi.
As for the root canal it wasn't even done yet but I went for extraction yesterday.
I have a weak immune system so I didn't want to risk getting even worse.
How did you get the gadolinium poisoning, from contrast agent? Did you have it confirmed with any lab work?
It looks like kidneys are where symptoms manifest so I would try to do some kidney work. Maybe increase salt, parsely tea, citrulline/watermellon seed, goldenrod tea. I'm not positive if edta chelates gadolinium but if so a safe way to use it would be suppository. Have you tried something simple like ascorbic acid powder or buffered ascorbates?
There is a product called ora-chel which is edta capsules. Maybe you could try a low dose or two.
There is another remedy for Pylori but it works mainly for blood type O - fucoidin. It also works on other types but not as well. Some people find gluten free helps to kick Pylori, or it's a necessary step.
Thanks I will look into it. Kidneys are susceptible to toxic damage but so is the liver. I mostly feeling my liver suffered a lot. I also have brain issues because of that and eye problems. I heard that extra is heavy on the kidneys. Is that right or no? Also someone told me that oral edta is destroyed by the stomach acid. Please let me know because I am all mixed up. Is edta safe in small amounts and how much daily is safe.
I already removed my root canaled tooth after reading about how bad they are although many people have them and seem to be ok. Perhaps I acted out of fear and made a wrong decision since it was the last molar. Are all of these root canals bad, do dentists lie to us. If bacteria are present in a tooth or around it then there should be puss around it. Please explain to me why root canals are bad even though dentists say otherwise.
Clove oil can inhibit glutathione production- it's big brother, cinnamon oil, doesn't have that property. I'd grab oregano essential oil and use it several times a day in oil pulling. The essential oils are similar to Colloidal Silver in particle size, though they don't leave behind smooth tissue damage where silver does when it encounters encysted parasites. (See veterinary studies on the effect of Colloidal Silver on the liver, kidneys, heart and lungs, old stuff. Good reason to stick to the dilution the other poster mentions.)
CoQ10 and the 80-10-10 or raw to 4 should help with those sorts of CS cleanups.
I have heard of folk using rife and zappers to mitigate the effects of root canals, pretty good ways to keep the infections at bay.
Read my post to you again, google the things I mention so you understand better. ;-)
Rife therapy, oregano essential oil, cinnamon essential oil, oil pulling, zappers.
In the long term just get the tooth pulled and oil pull with olive oil with as many drops of oregano essential oil mixed into the olive oil as possible, especially during the healing phase so you don't develop cavitations.
(As many drops as possible- aka, that doesn't make you herx/feel very sick. 1 drop per tablespoon is a good place to start, or all the way down to 1 drop per 3 tablespoons, and store the other oil that won't fit in your mouth for later pulling sessions. )
Root canalled teeth are very expensive to keep from spreading health problems.
showing clove oil to reverse chemically induced memory deficit and slightly increase glutathione.
I could care less about pushing clove oil but I think cloves are an excellent spice as well as cinnamon. If you grind your own spices the essential oils are much stronger and there is no need to buy expensive essential oils unless for some reason you need very high doses.
Volatile oils in spices can go rancid very quickly, according to some sources within minutes, so fresh ground can have more benefits than people realize.
A note about cinnamon, vietnamese cinnamon or cassia has stronger medicinal properties than true cinnamon and it's much cheaper.
Raw cloves are extremely pungent and a tiny bit can throw some people off just because they are so strong, especially pitta types. Boiling them down can make them much easier to tolerate.
Infection from Probiotic supplement?
Do you think a probiotic supplement could cause Gastritis?
I took a probiotic called Prescript-Assist and for six months afterwards I've had chronic nausea after eating. I have to take Dexilant to improve it. I thought maybe I had picked up H. Pylori, but a blood test came back negative. After going back and reviewing Prescript-assist I know it contains potentially pathogenic spore-forming bacteria originating from soil.
I find nothing but glowing statements about prescript assist, but I'm worried it gave me a gut infection that's causing gastritis. How can this be tested? A stool analysis?
And I've had a CT scan that showed no physical abnormalities.
If you overdosed on probiotics you could have SIBO.
It doesn't matter if the bacteria are good or bad - if they start growing in your small intestine they will make you sick. The small intestine is supposed to be near sterile. Maybe ask your doctor about a SIBO breath test?
I've also had chronic nausea and now I believe it was partly caused by low stomach acid. You could try taking peppermint or bitter herbs before eating, or raw ACV (must be raw for enzymes) with meals.
I'm 15 years old, and this is my second attempt at a water fast. I only started today so obviously no symptoms are showing. My last attempt was about a month ago; it didn't go well. On the third night I tried walking to my kitchen for more water, and I got there easily. but the way back- I lost my vision- everything was black. I remember my back hurting so bad all the sudden I didn't think I could walk- All I remember is whispering "so much pain so much pain help" I barely made it to my room- I fell onto my bed and dropped the water bottle. I don't remember if I went to sleep after that or passed out. But it was pretty traumatic. I am not happy with my weight and due to a thyroid problem its VERY hard for me to lose it by "eating right and exercise" This is pretty much my only option at this point. How can I do this fast successfully, without dying, or having a traumatic experience.
If you feel the way you did you should have stopped the fast at the fist sign of not feeling right. Always listen to your body. That's the way it talks to you.
You're better off doing one or two day fasts multiple times until your body gets accostomed to going without food. Once you get to that point, you can add a day.
Also I have to tell you something that you and all the other people hate to hear that fasting is not the way to lose weight. Well you will lose weight during the fast, but because you will have slowed your metabolism down by fasting, when you start eating all the weight will return plus some extra.
It's in what you eat, and the reason you are eating to begin with. Eat to live like animals do instead of living to eat.
If people are severly under weight, you should read Patient Cure thyself by garden of life founder...forget his name. Dr. Rubin I think. If his story sounds like you, you should get his "Primal Defense product". It will help to maintain digestion and get rid of parasites. If parasites are bad enough, you should take parasite herbs from kroeger or clark. kefir will be helpful too. dairies in the US are dangerous and can add to your problem because of pasteurization processes, antibiotics, and steroids. Try to eat nuts and nutbutters, fruits (tropical ones like bananas), veggies, and rice and beans.
If you just need a little weight gain, rice and beans helped my friend. that's just a suggestion.
I used to take primal defense but it never helped me the same as other standard probiotics like acidophilus and bifidus etc. In fact it took me a while to figure out it was primal defense that was making me even more sick. When ever I started taking it, it was about a week after I started getting flu symptoms. I never figured it was primal defense. Then I stopped and started taking it again when id felt better and I got a really bad flu. I never had it so bad in my life. I had to take a bath to stop me from throwing up. Eventually only zapping helped cure me of this. Then I took it again when in Australia and I got sick immediately. I had bought 2 jars of the stuff by then. I then did some research on primald defense and found out that soil based organisms are really tough are not meant for humans to ingest orally. I don't know whether this is true, but all i can say is never underestimate healthy foods as being suspect.
i took a digestive enzyme which unfortunately had that bacilus subtilis in it. i am afraid it may have destroyed my gut flora. You took primal defense which also had bs in it. How did you manage to cure yourself and what is zapping? Thanks
Hi! I'm new here, hoping it's ok to just jump right in. My sons are identical twins and are suffering from chronic constipation. They have been taking Miralax to no avail for the past 4 days. These came out in several of their stools.
I've felt movement in my own bowels when I try to do a cleanse, like a kicking sensation, and I am for sure not pregnant, like no way. Also I've experienced a scattering sensation that was super horrific. Anyway, this isn't about me although it may help, if anyone can help me to identify these "seeds" in my sons' stools.
Our doctor has given us tests using stool samples and they are all negative. So I'm turning to you. Thanks!
Thanks, I'll have to check it out.
So there's no way to identify whether these things I found are seeds or something else? I honestly can't think of anything he could have eaten that has seeds in it. I might check if the local health Science University has a parasitology department. I'm just super curious. Also, could it be dehydrated flukes due to his constipation...they may have been in there a while.
Get a zapper and do Dr. Clark's deparasiting protocol. Her book is a free download here in the Image Gallery . That's all I ever really needed to be rid of them. Often they carry disease, so if you feel worse afterwards, it's because they released their infection into you. Here's what I use for that.
It's a good sign if you feel worse--means you killed the parasites (zapping is entirely safe for anyone, kids included, from my expearence of 15 years, despite the lies told by the disinformation agents here). Now, just kill off their infections and you and your kids will feel 100% better.
I rehydrated them a bit, but will soak them overnight and see if anything else happens. So far this is the best I can do in the way of detail.
Thanks again, even if no one can figure it out...I'm leaning toward flukes, lung, intestinal? There were so many in the toilet, shriveled dark tomato skin looking things too.
(zapping is entirely safe for anyone, kids included,
I agree, also it is safe for parasitic worms, they simply don't care and resume their life after a zapping session (even after many hours of zapping) useless hype devices
Attack/harrassment post 2. You are just hate/fear mongering the zapper, in my opinion. How have YOU tested to ensure what you say has any validity?
Straight from Dr. Clark:
"What makes me think I can find things in the human body that a blood test can not? What new technology makes this possible? Why is electronic testing superior in many ways to chemical methods? What are my claims of electrically killing parasites based on?
In 1988 I discovered a new way to scan a body organ. It was electronic. We already can “see” an organ with a sonogram, Xrays, computerized tomography (CAT) scan, or with magnetic resonance imagery (MRI). These techniques can identify abnormal shapes in an organ without having to explore or guess.
But my new electronic technique can check for viruses, bacteria, fungi, parasites, solvents and toxins, and in addition is simple, cheap, fast and infallible. Electricity can do many magical things; now we can add detecting substances in our body to that list.
The method rests on radio electronic principles.
If you match, very precisely, the capacitance and inductance properties of an external circuit so that its resonant frequency is the same as the emitted frequency coming from somewhere else, the circuit will oscillate. This means there will be positive feedback in an amplifier circuit. You can hear it. Like when a public address system squeals.'
Page 5 'Cure for all diseases'
I have one, it works too, although I never gathered many slides to make it something I could use a lot.
'In 1994 my son built a hand held, battery operated, accurate frequency generator. The purpose was to enable everyone to kill the intestinal fluke at 434,000 Hz with a low cost device. Enough benefit would be derived from zapping at various frequencies that I thought everyone should know how to make one. When I tested it on one of my own bacteria, however, three others at much different frequencies died also! This had never happened
before. When I tested it on others, even though they had dozens of pathogens, all were killed!
Subsequent testing showed it was not due to some unique design, or special wave form produced by the device. It was due to battery operation!
Any positively offset frequency kills all bacteria, viruses and parasites simultaneously given sufficient voltage (5 to 10 volts), duration (seven minutes), and frequency (anything from 10 Hz to 500,000 Hz)."CFAD',page 15-16
Negative? I'm talking cured here--how is that negative? I'm sure, being human like me and my friends, most anybody using Dr. Clark's full protocol will also get well! Oh, but that's right---I'm trashing all the other ways that don't work or barely work from my experience.
All the profit mongering ways--right. Of course you want me to stop. OMG, people might get well and not need any of those basically worthless ways. I can understand your concern.
I have been experiencing a distended abdomen for about a year now and cant figure it out. I used to have a flat six pack and I had perfect digestion.
Today was my first bowel movement in 4 days. This cant be good. It feels like my insides are all swollen. No matter what I eat, I become inflamed and it seems like none of my bodily organs can function! I am even urinating much much less.
This is kind of scary and I am not sure what to do. Ive taken wormwood before without any results. Do you guys think this could be parasites?
From your symptoms I DEF believe you have parasites, sounds like you def have Tapeworm or roundworm, google Tapeworm and distended abdomen or roundworm... there is tons of results, just wormwood will not do anything.. you must add fresh ground clove capsules and Black-Walnut fresh green hull capsules, or you can order Humaworm, which i just did last week, because I am dealing with the same problem.. i do use the bathroom for about 3-4 days sometimes too, its crazy!!
Yeah my body is just sooooo inconsistent. I believe it may be parasites. For example; the other day I took almost triple dose of chlorella powder....I was pooping like crazy all day and my stomach was flat. Got excited and try the same thing the next day, and I became constipated, inflamed gut, and fatigued. Didnt have another bowel movement until today, 4 days later. Just had some more chlorella and nothing is going on.
Now this is gross to think about. I didnt have a bowel movement for 4 days! 4 days! Upwards of 10,000 calories and tons of chlorella and no poop?!? And I was eating healthy and I am always hungry. Thats the thing, being not hungry with constipation is what is supposed to happen...I am always hungry and I dont know where it all goes.
I am also losing weight, not gaining. I used to be 20 lbs heavier with a normal appetite. Im falling apart.
Look at pics on this review. That is my stomach! But I am a guy and it is really frustrating. Ive lost all my muscles and I am actually skinnier in all my limbs except my stomach, which is bloated and distended, not fat! Theres a difference.
I am a guy too I was 190lbs and all muscle in late june, not I'm 170 lbs and lost a lot of my muscle in my legs and arms, I use to work out everyday. I found tons of websites that say with Tapeworm you lose all your weight on your limbs(arms and legs) but you keep your stomach and it gets bloated or distended. I am going through the same freakin thing buddy, my advice would be to do what I'm doing, order Humaworm, and start eating tons of raw garlic... and I mean raw!!! If you wanna go the western med route take some albendazole.. this will take care of either tape or roundworm..
two things that pissed off my worms was raw garlic and raw apple cider vinegar mixed with honey
I am currently taking Parasitin and i saw something in the toilet the other day that wasnt so nice looking, scroll down in this forum and youll see my thread about it with the picture
wow 5'7" and 110 pounds, How do you deal with that?? thats wayyyyyy to light for your hieght, I would have already shot myself.. for reall no joke, I'm losing my mind at going from 190-165 I dont know how you are even dealin with this, alll I can say is WOWWWWWW! O by the way I'm 5'8
So far when I used RAW garlic, the next few days would be really bad, AKA die-off symptoms, also when I first used raw apple cider vinegar and honey mixed in warm water, the next few days were really bad too, die off symptoms again.
Now I am on a product called Parasitin made by Vaxa and having just OK results, I did pass a worm and notice some die-off symptoms but nothing crazy. I dont think its strong enough but its def pissing off the wormss!!
My next product will be Humaworm which I just ordered the other day, suppose to be the BEST out of all natural products. I'll be starting that next week and we will see out that goes...
And if all of these fail, I have albendazole ready to be used, but I'm only going to use this when I feel like there is a point of no return, like who cares just try it attitude..
Whatever it is, you probably have parasites one way or another.
You might want to try some Oxypowder to clean yourself out. Eating tons of air popped pop corn can help, also cascara sagara. If necessary do an enema, 2 cups in bag at most per time to not flush out good bacteria & put acidophilus yogurt in the last bag, plus eat some of it.
I see that you have been posting on various forums for several months and think I have responded to some of them. You started out by asking about parasites on this forum and now you are back again after trying some other treatments for various conditions. I searched for 'maladsorption disorders' and saw lots of websites to give you some information. I agree that a visit to a gastroeneterologist may be helpful to define the problem, some people see alternate health professionals such as NDs. Parastes could be causing some problems as could a congested bile system (gallstones, sludge, parasites), but to regain good health it will probably take several treatments over a period of months or years. The CZ Liver Flush Support Forum has several programs which have helped many people. Most of these programs start with a Parasite program and then go on to other cleanses, detoxification and support for organs and systems. let us know what you do and how well it works. Good Luck.
Yes Mendomaid and I thank you for all your input. Ive looked into celiac disease, and it doesnt look like it. I can eat gluten, and it has no effect. I actually have constipation beyond belief. Not diarrhea or loose stools that is represented by gluten intolerance. Also I have weight loss not weight gain
EXACTLY ME TOO!! I got tested twice for gluten intolerance both negative, even made sure i ate it before tests and lots of it, but unlikes you when I first got sick I did have diaherra for little over a month, then it just stopped out of nowhere, but i would still get it like once a week for th enext few months, either way, you should really lookin into Humaworm or Parasitin, or start using different herbs to help..
Many people with CD do not have diarrhea, I didn't and had constipation along with parasites and gallstones. Some people have almost no symptoms, others have skin problems, neurological problems. The autoimmune reaction is so delayed that most people have no idea that gluten is causing their problems. It may take up to 3 months for a person to see significant improvement on a gluten free diet.
I see where youre coming from. So youre saying I could just randomly become intolerant to gluten. I have never been my whole life and now I am? This is why i suspect parasites. Yes the parasites could be causing me to temporarily be sensitive to gluten because the parasites are inflaming my intestines. I just dont think I have developed a life long allergy to gluten out of no where.
dude i agree they tried tellin me this stupid shittt for last 6 months, tested me twice for it, came back negative, parasites can cause people to become sensitive to milk products and gluten until the situation is handled...
I'm italian all we eat is pizza and noodles, it just wouldnt happen.. I do have some native american in me but like only 10-15%
Yes exactly im Italian and Portugese. Gluten intolerance isnt happening. lol. But if it isnt parasites, then im going to surrender and give in to gluten intolerance.
Think about it, hundreds of years ago people never had any of these digestive problems! Their main diet food was bread too! I believe we have all killed ourselves in this world with antibiotics and other chemical medications.
People with a genetic predisposition to gluten sensitivity can develop celiac disease at any time in their life: some environmental factor (trigger) starts off the autoimmune reaction. People develop CD after stressful circumstances, operations, gastrointestinal infections, pregnancy and other triggers. The oldest person I've read who developed CD was an 86 year old woman - the youngest were infants.
Hulda Clark had 3 patients with gluten sensitivity, all under the age of 6. They were treated by treating the whole family for parasites and removing some pollutants from their bodies and were able to eat gluten again. But she did not follow these children long enough to find out if their problems with gluten returned. Years ago Drs thought that a sensitivity to gluten in children could clear up without further problems but this has been shown to be untrue for if these children have a predisposition to develop gluten sensitivity they will most likely have problems later in their lives. The average length of time between the development of symptoms and a diagnosis of CD is 12 years.
I feel it is important for people with intestinal problems to be tested for gluten sensitivity. Not all of them will have positive tests but if they are sensitive to gluten the damage to the small intestine will continue even tho they may appear to have recovered as long as they eat and are exposed to gluten.
People can have an allergy to wheat proteins but the celiac type of gluten sensitivity is an autoimmune reaction.
Hi guys, I am dealing with this issue now. Swollen abdomen, looks like 5 months pregnant, severe abdominal pain. This came about b.c. of trying to treat parasites by myself. Please, anyone who suspects parasites, please do not use the Internet to try to cleanse, you can develop very severe problems and your life turned upside down like I did. Now I am under the care of chiropractor who also practice holistic health and he has treated several cases like mine. He does muscle testing to make absolutely sure the remedies are correct for my body. Please use the care of someone with an established reputation for treating parasites or you may end up in a world of trouble. You need to use herbs exactly in a 10 day on 5 day off cycling period for 60 days to kill all eggs or parasites will just come back. It's better to pay the money for good treatment, then to learn the hard way as I did. Best of luck in healing! and when I am cured of parasites I will post again the results of my care. Parasites in a horrific disorder and I feel for everyone who is suffering as much as I am.
why did you let yourself go four days without pooping when you can take an enema and wash it out?
parasites constipate you because they don't want you pooping out the colonies they are trying to establish
the constipation is damaging you intestines and the damaged tissue gives them an excuse to invade more deeply because they are programmed to devour the sickly
they are like suicide bombers
try Bentonite clay, you must activate it by letting it sit in water for at least two hours and take on an empty stomach, put quarter teaspoon in distilled water, it will sit on the stop and slowly sink to bottom, once it has all gone to the bottom, it is saturated and can do its work, stir the water and drink, take on empty stomach, you can let sink to bottom over night and drink in the morning if that it more convenient.
a trustworthy brand is this kind, some are not worth taking~
A rebounder is a mini-trampoline. It's circular, maybe 4 feet in diameter. You stand on the rubber mat, and gently bounce up and down.
I've owned a rebounder for 20 months, and it's the best piece of exercise equipment I've ever owned. I bounce up and down gently for at least 10 minutes every day. Since I live alone, mine sits in my living room. It's always instantly available; nothing to set up, nowhere to drive, no concerns about weather. Rebounders also come in versions that fold, so you can store them out of sight.
Rebounders provide superb exercise for every part of the body, but especially the lymph system. You've got 5 to 6 quarts of blood in your body, and a pump to keep it circulating. But you have five times as much lymph as blood -- and NO pump to circulate lymph.
I'm sure that most people on this forum know that the lymph system is a kind of metabolic dumpster for the body. Our 75 trillion cells are constantly casting off toxins, dead cells, and a wide variety of waste products. All that unwanted debris goes into the lymph system.
And since there's no pump to get rid of it, all those wastes, some of them quite toxic, just sit there in the lymph system. There are only three things that get the lymph flowing: (1) Gravity (2) Internal massage to the valves of the lymph ducts, and (3) Muscular contraction from movement and exercise.
That's why so many American couch- potatoes are getting seriously sick. They eat terrible food, drink awful drinks, and when their cells expel the toxins into the lymph system, the toxins, for the most part, just STAY there. Perhaps they infect a breast or a prostate gland, or any one of dozens and dozens of organs. That's why people who are bed-ridden for, say, a broken leg, end up feeling really sick. The toxins just sit there, and infect various parts of the body.
Rebounding gets the lymph moving. Toxins and waste products don't get to hang around and cause trouble. As you bounce, the toxins are moved to the ducts which take them to the liver and kidneys. Rebounding is wonderful insurance against a broad spectrum of serious illnesses. And it's great fun! I feel like I'm 8 years-old when I'm bouncing on my rebounder. All of my 75 trillion cells are on the same page, doing the same thing.
I bought my rebounder online from Al Carter's company. It was pricey, but it came with a lifetime guarantee. Carter is the Bill Gates of rebounding. His website address is: www.healthbounce.com
However, I've since learned that Walmart sells perfectly good rebounders for around $25.00. I'd check them out before I went online. But Carter's site is FULL of information about rebounding, and worth exploring from an educational viewpoint, even if you choose the cheaper product.
Last point: all you need to do is bounce gently up and down. Your feet never have to leave the mat. You don't need to do cheerleader tricks. And if your balance is shaky, you can buy a railing that fits on the front 180 degrees of the circle.
If anything I've said resonates with you, I hope you'll consider buying a rebounder. Trust your intuition.
My name is Donna and I am a certified lymphologist and I would not recommend an inexpensive walmart rebounder. They are so stiff that they cause joint problems for many people. I bought one years ago before I was a CL and used it three days and had to get rid of it as it caused such severe lower back pain. I have met quite a few other people who had the same type of experience. Of course there are always exceptions. . .that guy who thinks they are great and it doesn't bother HIM. But for the general population, they really can cause damage.
There is a world of difference between the cheap ones and the pricey models. Many say that the cheap ones are like jumping on cement compared to the better made units. I would have to agree. They jar your skeleton. Where as the better made units absorb the shock and actually cause joints to heal. Big difference.
Thanks for your input. I've never
bounced on an inexpensive rebounder.
A friend of mine in the Midwest
bought a cheap one at Walmarts,
and told me she loved it. But I'm
inclined to think your judgement
is probably the correct one. My
rebounder cost $169.00, plus shipping. It came with a lifetime
guarantee. A part of me wondered
how the discount stores could make
a comparable product for so little
money. I guess the answer is, they
There are a number of ways to get the lymphatic system going. One free and cheap way is deep breathing.
At an internation meeting of the International Lymphatic Society (made up of alot of big hitters in the medical world, like heads of hospitals and research facilities) one of the researchers did a great demonstration. At that time it was believed that physical activity was the main moving of lymphatic fluid. So this researcher had a man with a camera in his subclavian vein and a monitor so all could view what was going on inside him. He was put on a tread mill and put through the paces and there was not alot of activity in the lymph fluid. This alone was shocking to the audience.
So then he got off the tread mill and did some real deep breathing and guess what, the lymphatic fluid from the thoracic duct shot like a geyser into the subclavian vein. What this means is the deep breathing causes the lymphatic fluid in the thoracic duct, the last stop in the lymphatic system, to gush into the subclavian vein, which is where it re enters the blood stream. At this point it is pure water re entering the blood stream.
So deep breathing is VERY effective and is easy and free.
Dry brushing is also good. Not free, but almost. Smile. Stroking with the flat side of fingers is also excellent. Just stroking works, but the energy that comes from the hands also moves the lymphatic system. So it can be even better than dry brushing in some situations.
The chi machine is also awesome. (http://www.excellentthings.com)
My favorites are the chi machine and rebounder. But these do cost some $.
Also, hot and cold showers. one minute on each cycle (seven times each). This cause intense circulation of blood and lymph. Incredibly healing. You can start with warm/cool and work up to hot and cold. You adjust rather quickly and it becomes quite pleasant. Makes you gasp or even yell, but it is invigorating and makes you feel more alive.
Also, taking steps to not eat foods that clog the lymphatic system is helpful. Salt slows the lymph, stress also does. Anything that is unnatural and, therefore, poison like will cause the blood capilaries to dialate and allow too much blood protein to leave the blood and move to the lymphatic system. Then they draw water and sodium to them and a whole cascade happens that causes you to lose energy and when it is a chronic condition it will eventually cause disease.
Moving the lymph is VERY important.
Signing off for the night
Thanks so much for all the helpful information. And that is so interesting about the deep breathing. Well, I guess I'm going to be doing alot of that.
I was diagnosed with Rheumatoid Arthritis a year ago and have been reversing it for the last year. I take no meds and have minimal stiffness now. I also had candida, which is basically under control. But I have had constipation and other digestive problems, so still working on that problem, along with trying to get my lymphs uncongested. I am cleansing, detoxing and rebuilding to heal leaky gut. It's been quite a long road, but I won't give up till I reach optimal health.
I appreciate all the help that people have given me. Curezone has been such a great support system. And you are one of my angels too. Thanks again.
You are welcome, and thank you for the kind words. I am an obsessive compulsive helpers. Chuckle.
On the leaky gut issue, the best thing that I know of for that is pure, first milking colostrum. You can join firstname.lastname@example.org by sending a blank message to email@example.com And when you are a member you can read the archives and in the first ten messages there is a post on Leaky gut syndrome and colostrum. Really remarkable.
I used to have leaky gut and then I started colostrum (for other reasons before I knew of it's benefit for LGS) and within three days I noticed I could eat stuff that previously had bothered me and I suddenly had no ill effects from it. Like mustard and vinegar.
I know other people who have had similar remarkable responses. One man, after only five days was able to eat beans and pepperoni and cheese, which he previously could not eat without diahrrea. He was soooooooo happy. Smile. In addition his hair on his head started growing back. Doesn't work for everyone, but it did for him. His barber now sells colostrum.
Anyway, it is nearly miraculous for Leaky Gut Syndrome and this reality is backed with medical research, not just anecdotal stories.
Pure, firstmilking colostrum is nearly miraculous stuff. Has been a huge benefit to my whole extended family.
I have one more question for you. Background first - I weighed about 130 when I first went on the candida diet (10 lbs over ideal weight). Now I weigh 106 lbs. (underweight) and I am having no luck in putting it back on. Eating healthy and feeling pretty good, 100 percent better than I did a year ago. I am just wondering if my congested lymphs could have anything to do with my not being able to gain the weight back right now.
Yes. The lymphatic system looks just like your cardiovascular system, only without a heart to pump it. And it is three times the size of your cardio system. Three times the fluid as in the blood stream. And in the lymph vessesl there are little check valves that keep the lymphatic fluid from draining down into your feet and hands. And when you bounce, those check valves open and the rebound pushes the fluid up through the valves.
That is why rebounding (with the acompanying deep breathing) moves lymph from feet upward, whereas shallow breathing lethargic walking or standing makes edema worse. The fluid keeps coming out of the blood stream, but doesn't get moved up the system, and so more and more fluid collects. Rebounding opens those check valves, which open upwards and close with down pressure, and the fluid is able to slowly move up through the locks. Kind of like the panama canal, only vertical.
Learning about the lymphatic system can be challenging. It has been awhile since I did some on line searches for info, but when I did the info was pretty limited. A medical textbook Anatomy and Physiology by Arthur C Guyton (it is older) is excellent.
If you can get a copy of Scientific American June 1963 there is a great article by a lymphatic pioneer, HS Meyerson, entitled The Lymphatic System
The bottom line is that every toxins and dead cell and debris in the body that leaves the body has to leave through the lymphatic system. It moves to the lymph nodes where it is dealt with by various kinds of immune cells and by the time it reaches the blood stream it is clean water again.
If the lymphatic system shut down you would die withing 24 hrs. A sluggish lymphatic system won't kill you in 24 hrs, but it will keep you from optimum health.
The reason they give you iv fluids when you are in shock is because your cappilaries become so porous that you lose blood fluid into the tissues and lymphatic system so fast that your cardio vascular system can collapse from lack of fluid. So until you stabilize and your cappilaries reduce porosity they keep pumping fluid into your veins.
I am thinking about starting a yahoo groups just on the lymphatic system. It is so important and if you know how to work the system you can experience speed healing where burns stop in hours and broken bones set them selves and heal in hours instead of weeks. Really remarkable stuff.
Wouldn't that get things moving from the feet upwards? I have been body brushing and rebounding for 2 years and I don't notice any difference in my health. I am healthy and have had no problems nor am I on any medications. I have always had good health. But I have spent 50 years on the SAD diet and know that things could probably be better.
Does anyone think this would work also? (see link below) Brenda Dygraf's Lateral Thigh Trainer. I had a rebounder/mini trampoline several years ago but then got rid of it (I wasn't as much into health, nutrition, etc as I am now). I used my Lateral Thigh Trainer yesterday. It seems to me the motions are the basically the same - still up and down gently - with the difference being your legs are working more with the LTT.
Just thought I'd post this and see if anyone has strong feelings about why this exercise isn't/couldn't be comparable to using a rebounder.
My husband had an accident to his thigh that damaged his lymphatic system, it will not shut down and it has bee almost 3 months. He is on a wound vac machine, wears a compression sock, and the fluid is not letting up.
I started lymphatic massage with a dry brush, my husband recently visited our Indigenous medicine man and is drinking a tea I make from tree bark.
How do we bring this to a conclussion? Please make recommendations. Thanking you in advance.
I've had the $25 model, and now have a rebounder that lists for about $300. For explosive jumping,(feet leaving the mat), the better unit gives me a much more stable, secure feeling, but for the gentle movement, which is all that is required for lymph, I don't feel enough force is generated to hurt the joints. My 84 year old mom uses the cheaper one now, from a seated position, lightly gripping the edge with both hands, legs extended and feet resting on the floor. She has had great results and no complaints. When caught without your rebounder, you can 'pretend to jump' repeatedly on any surface to approximate the movement and the benefits. Make sure to keep the movement very gentle.
I was reading you response to the rebounder noticing you mentioned your friend had cancer. Dr. Lorraine Day has some wonderful videos on the market as she cured herself of Breast Cancer against her colleagues recommendations. "Cancer Does't Scare Me Anymore" and "You Can't Improve On God" was 2 that I borrowed from a friend and took 14 pages of notes,which I condensed down to 4.5.If you are interested, I will leave my email address below and I can send these notes to you. They are archived in my Mircosoft Works. Take care,
Thank you everybody for such informative posts. Someone here at Curezone got me a good rebounder for a good price. Her username is tophat, and I believe she said that if anyone else wants one, she can get more at a good price. If anyone wants her e-mail address, I will see if I can find it for you. While we're on the subject of deep breathing, I think I read that it also alkalizes your body.
Sounds like the garden trampoline
would be fine for you. You don't
want to bounce high in the air like
kids do. Just a gentle bounce, up
and down, is all you need. Give it
a try for 10 minutes. Pretend you're
8 years-old again. Feel every cell
caressing every other cell. Talk to
your body lovingly, and ask it to
heal any aches or pains you may have. Bounce to some music that you
enjoy. There are lots of possibilities. I think you'll have
fun, bouncing in the garden!
I've now brought it into the house as it is now Autumn here and I will try to use it at least once a day. I have tried it two days running and feel much more energy running through me.
I don't have many pains or symptoms left now after l/flushes and b/cleanses and I've just bought an ozonator and some foot pads.
Also I'm zapping and feeling rather fine! My mother came Today and said that she hadn't seen me look so well in years!
My excema has been dormant (first time in 15 years!) since i've been taking the and zapping, my hot flushes have gone down from 8-9 to 1-2 and my depression has been lifted other than one day which could be due to all kinds of things.
You have been a breath of fresh air to me and I thank the lord for putting us in touch - and NO I'm not going to go into poetry tonight- It's funny - I only feel the need when I am on a downer!
Thanks for all the wonderful news,
Suzie! It's obvious that your body
is on the Healing Path. All of your
75 trillion cells KNOW that you've
given them permission to begin the
healing process. You're eating the
right foods, drinking the right
drinks, thinking the right thoughts,
and enjoying playful exercise, like
Every day, Suzie, your body, mind,
and soul will become a bit cleaner
than they were yesterday. I suggest
you also begin saying some affirmations every morning, if you
haven't already done so. I posted
a lot of my personal affirmations
on the Affirmations forum. Read
through them. If any resonate with
you, print them out (or copy them),
and begin saying them every day.
And don't forget to talk to your
body while you're rebounding! Tell
your body how much you love it,
and how grateful you are for the
Great Turnaround that is taking place. Bodies DO listen, Suzie,
and, just like people, they love
to hear buoyant, upbeat things said
I'm very proud of you, Suzie! Your
life is going to get better and better. Don't doubt that for a moment.
Yes, I feel that I'm on the right path - But it's early days - my mini trampeline is good for me (when my son doesn't try to muscle in!!) I just have to use it when he's not around. It's a great way to exercise at home!
I do say to myself that I'm beautiful and my heart is pure (or as pure as it is at the moment (I'm realy trying) and anyone who rebuffs me - I think "It is their loss not mine"!
It's very hard when you feel your destiny is to give information regarding health alternatives which people do not listen to (probably because of the western way of brain conditioning) but I will not be waylaid as I have the "proof of the pudding" already!
Owen, your poem that you sent me in return to one of my first poems was "Childhood Recaptured" but I can't find the link. But,
that aside, could I ask your permission to have it printed and framed for my son's school as it mmeans so much to me personally? After reading Matthew his story at bedtime, I still go to bed in tears some evenings hearing the rhym in my head. What a wonderful poem.
I think the link was originally posted on another forum and then your answer was a link to a forum or such like - in answer to one of my messages or poems. I know that "Childhood Recaptured" is still on the Poetry Forum but that is not where you sent it to me originally. I feel that you directed that poem to me personally in answer, before your posting agian on the poetry forum.
We, in the Uk are feeling the tail end of Hurricain Francis and I'm sure you are nownervous about Hugo coming along!
How many springs have you broken? I seem to break 1/month in the winter time, and 1 every two months in the summer time.
I have been rebounding for years now, and I would not trade it for any other piece of equipment.
I have a question unrelated to rebounding, but I read in another post of yours that you eat the same foods day in and out? I tend to do the same. What are your foods? I am really curious.
Sorry about the delay in getting back to you. I'm in South Florida,
and it has been a busy week.
No, I've never broken any springs
in my rebounder. I weigh 140 lbs,
and it's designed to hold up to
to 300 lb people. However, no one
any larger than me has ever
bounced on my rebounder. It came
with a lifetime guarantee. I'll
end up willing it to someone.
Regarding my eating regimen: go to
the FYI forun, scroll down about 8
days, and see my post about what I
eat every day.
I use a minitrampolene I bought at Sports Authority for $30. It is the smallest one they make. That is all you need.
My experience with the lymph system (which I have to unplug often) relates to gluten intolerance. So if any of you have gluten issues or malabsorption syndrome, the minitrampolene helps a lot with unclogging.
Also, herbs that relax your nerves help with sugar/gluten cravings. I use http://www.herbdoc.com
herbs. Everything I have used there works.
I just bought my rebounding 2 days ago from walmart for $18.88
My cat looked VERY interested watching me rebound so I decided to hold my cat while rebounding, not only for her entertainment, but also for my cat's lymph system health too, AND for that extra 15 pounds for me. She really likes it!!! She didn't want to stop, LOL! We will be bouncing together everyday!
I just don't know whether to wear a bra or not, better for lymph drainage if ya don't, but it seems they would start sagging if I don't. Hmmmmm?
No matter though, I use my cat as my bra, She really keeps things in place, LOL!!!
The body makes T4 from the amino acid tyrosine and iodine. Selenium is involved in the conversion to the more active T3. Some say zinc is also involved.
Tyrosine is also used to make the catecholamine neurotransmitters. A lack of Cats or other problems with related systems are thought to be involved in ADD.
So maybe you'd benefit from more tyrosine or its precursor Phenylalanine or both.
Regular water also contains fluoride which competes to some extent with iodine. Maybe you'd benefit from a little additional iodine; however, I'm not convinced about the megadoses of I. that some people recommend.
Se is one of my magic pills, but that might be due to the cadmium and lead problem I have/had. Se warms my hands, etc
AA's are a complex subject but finding the right combo can be wonderful for some people.
I started on 500mg tyrosine 2x daily; however I later learned that in order to get a more consistent effect I needed to take it more frequently.
I also used a multi AA supplement for a while with some good effect. Now I more commonly use whey powder and selected AAs for my situation.
Getting the AA containing protein in the AM certainly helps rather than the sweet junk I used to eat in the AM.
1. supplementing with a very high quality probiotic ( the kind that needs refrigeration) since you were on antibiotics, your gut flora is probably out of balance which has a ripple effect on the entirety of your body and mind.
2. Do you take an omega 3 supplement? If not, you should as your omega 3-6 balance is probably off, I would recommend a dha kind over EPA as dha is better utillized in the body.
3. If your thyroid is out of whack you may be gluten intolerant, try cutting it out of your diet for a month and see if you feel better. Also supplement with iodine, no megadoses though!
Try the things the first person recommended too, but these should address many of the psychological issues... I know from personal experience. Liver flushing/colon cleansing with Bentonite clay re both good ideas.
Also might try a parasite cleanse as I'm not sure of the effectiveness of antibiotics in treating parasites.
I felt movement in my stomach area and have always been skinny so I tried using Black-Walnut complex. I went through terrible die off symptoms and eventually stopped but there is now something sticking out of my pelvic area which looks like fat but was never there before the cleanse. I have had an ultrasound, blood test and stool test, all came back clear.
Could this be a dead parasite(s) inside me? I know how ridiculous this sounds but I know something isn't right and am even planning to pay for an x ray privately to find out what the lump is. I would also like to know if it is dead parasites how would I get them out?
It could be yeast/fungus/candida or parasite mucous. you can try douching with tea tree oil or baking soda or mms. If you can get an xray on the old type xray equiptment you may be able to see the whole picture of whats stuck in there. Modern xrays i hear arent as good if its worms. And ct's, pelvic scans ect showed normal when I had a similiar pelvic issue.
I am a first-time faster, wanting a detox for my body, after living in a physically toxic environment overseas for two years.
I am struggling because I am underweight for my height and age (5'6" and 108 lbs on a good day), so if I talk to anyone about fasting they automatically assume I have an eating disorder.
The reality is, I eat TONS. I eat more than my husband, who is significantly heavier and more active than I am. In fact, I eat so much, I think it was making my digestive system just shut down, especially as I haven't been very physically active for several months, and my BM's less frequent.. such that I can feel there is junk stuck up in there that just hasn't made it out. I was having a whole host of symptoms, one the most pronounced being extreme lethargy and needing to sleep 11-12 hours a night.
My friend who is a personal trainer did some BMI measurements and said that I have a healthy amount of body fat and muscle mass, despite being "underweight." In the fitness world she says my body type is called "athletic."
So I decided a detox could be both right and safe for me.
I originally wanted to do a three-day water fast, but I only made it 24 hours. This was this week, Sunday to Monday. By the 16th hour or so I was throwing up bile and felt horrible. I was really concerned that I'm too skinny to be doing this, and so I ate the first piece of fruit I found after forcing myself to the 24-hour mark: a cherry. Unfortunately this made me throw up (and I could tell it was from how acidic it was). I waited a few more hours, then drank some broth, and ate a little piece of watermelon, and finally held those down.
But.... I could tell just before I ate again, my body was recovering. For instance, I had some old scars reappear on my body, and I also began feeling a bit light (in a good way). Though I was "tired" it was not like the lethargy and fog I have become accustomed to - it was just no food intake sort of weakness/tiredness.
I reflected on this and wanted to 'continue' the fast (even though I had broken it), and so I didn't eat anymore the rest of Monday. Monday night I had the best sleep I've had in quite a while, and Tuesday I woke up feeling like a new woman. Seriously. It was great. That one was also about 24 hours, or a little more.
I thought maybe that was "good enough" for now, because despite feeling great in some ways, I was also quite taxed from the puking. I also feel an immense amount of pressure because I know that if my family knew I was fasting, they would tell me I have an eating disorder, etc...
So, I again re-started eating later on Tuesday, and slowly increased my range of food. When I ate my first dairy, I started having postnasal drip and cloggy sinuses again. I realized these had gone away during the fast. And so, here I am again, wanting to restart the fast AGAIN, because I realized another way it had started helping me.
Another thing concerning me is that I've developed a yeast infection since starting all this, and I'm not sure if it's related, or how.
So... I am not sure if fasting again is wise or would be effective. I've basically just done two intermittent fasts (call it a 4 hour break between the first two, but for this one it's been almost two days of extremely low calorie intake with lots of veggies). I'd like to fast again, but is it worth it? And what will happen? Will it be like restarting? Will I have to yak bile again...?
For scheduling reasons, I only have about another 24-36 hours to fast (with another 12-24 hours tacked on to that to give myself enough time to ramp up with just broths, etc).
Also the whole experience has just been difficult and a bit scary. Hoping for some encouraging words, maybe advice if appropriate (please don't be so harsh with me.. I'm a newb and I know I'm not perfect).
Thanks for reading. Sorry it's so long. (TL;DR just read the last paragraph...)