Underweight, starting 30 day water fast to regain hunger signals - safe?
I'm 17 old and rarely feel any hunger (it's been like that for months) - I'm also out of school for this week, so I thought this week would be the ideal time to begin a 30 water fast (since the few days of ketosis have always made me feel physically weaker.)
I've done 2-3 day water fasts in the past, but have always broken them because I get really tired by the 2nd or 3rd day. This time, I want to continue because I want to FEEL and SEE my body detoxifying itself (gross I know, but so satisfying!)
Anyways, I just want to make sure that the reason I feel physically weak during the first few days isn't because I underweight (I'm 5'2 and 96.4 lb, last time I checked.) I've been underweight for years now (ever since I lost a lot of weight when I was 13 years due to depression) but I feel natural except for my lack of hunger signals. I nearly always force myself to eat. My hope is that water fasting will reset my hunger so I can FINALLY eat with pleasure.
I also want to lower my cholesterol levels (my family has high cholesterol) and aim to end the fast and continue my life with a Nutritarian lifestyle.
Invierno, ... ... It is great that you want to fast and you are just 17. This first week, when yo...
It is great that you want to fast and you are just 17. This first week, when you are off from school will be easy for fasting, but later on it will be very hard, especially that you are underweight.
There are a few things that you may do besides fasting. You are probably not hungry because your stomach lacks good amount of acid. Try the acid test (google it) and see if you lack acid. If you do not have good acid then apple cider vinegar, lemon juice and some Sea Salt mixed in some water before meals will help. You will also benefit from Betaine HCL tablets.
Cholesterol is a big myth in this country partly created by doctors and drug companies. Your body produces cholesterol because your brain needs it. It may be producing more because you are not eating good fats and your liver function is compromised.
Fast away, but be careful, take one day at a time. Drink water only and rest.
Hello dear, ... ... I too have fasted from quite an underweight beginning. It’s starts out larde...
I too have fasted from quite an underweight beginning. It's starts out lardee-dar... Lovely.
But by the end you end up a stinking rotting barely walking corpse that looks clinically anorexic and shod be tube fed. It's not a good look and there are much better ways to gain appetite . I would try a series of three ten day fasts with at least 20 days refeeding in between. Or try doing good hard work, increase your physical activity, add some cardiovascular exercise, and your metabolic rate would thus increase, and your body would require more fuel. Calculate your daily macros and aim for those calories, increasing as needed. There are many online tools for doing this.
Even if you only manage a few mouthfuls each meal - that's completely fine! Have 6 sml snack/meals, and make each mouthful extremely nutritious. If you have three mouthfuls at breakfast, aim for 3 at morning tea and at least 4-5 at lunch. Make your food calorie dense: egs are tahini and nuts and nut spread, avocado, raw honey and molasses, raw organic grassfed butter, raw coconut oil, dates and other dry fruit. These are highly concentrated foods that the body only needs small amounts but have dense nutrition.
Be relaxed, happy, peaceful when eating. Let go and release everything to God/ the power/universe and eat from a contented heart knowing that you are giving your body it's rights...
Eat what you need.
Take it from somebody who did this: it can be very hard to recover after a hecticly over-done fast when being underweight. Family will have a fit and can accuse of eating disorders, and one needs to start over from scratch if the body is too too depleted and needs to gain muscle mass all over again.
What are these "seeds" in my sons stool? He doesn't eat anything that would come out like this.
Hi! I'm new here, hoping it's ok to just jump right in. My sons are identical twins and are suffering from chronic constipation. They have been taking Miralax to no avail for the past 4 days. These came out in several of their stools.
I've felt movement in my own bowels when I try to do a cleanse, like a kicking sensation, and I am for sure not pregnant, like no way. Also I've experienced a scattering sensation that was super horrific. Anyway, this isn't about me although it may help, if anyone can help me to identify these "seeds" in my sons' stools.
Our doctor has given us tests using stool samples and they are all negative. So I'm turning to you. Thanks!
Thanks, I’ll have to check it out. ... So there’s no way to identify whether these things I found ...
Thanks, I'll have to check it out.
So there's no way to identify whether these things I found are seeds or something else? I honestly can't think of anything he could have eaten that has seeds in it. I might check if the local health Science University has a parasitology department. I'm just super curious. Also, could it be dehydrated flukes due to his constipation...they may have been in there a while.
Get a zapper and do Dr. Clark’s deparasiting protocol. Her book is a free download here in the ima...
Get a zapper and do Dr. Clark's deparasiting protocol. Her book is a free download here in the Image Gallery . That's all I ever really needed to be rid of them. Often they carry disease, so if you feel worse afterwards, it's because they released their infection into you. Here's what I use for that.
It's a good sign if you feel worse--means you killed the parasites (zapping is entirely safe for anyone, kids included, from my expearence of 15 years, despite the lies told by the disinformation agents here). Now, just kill off their infections and you and your kids will feel 100% better.
I rehydrated them a bit, but will soak them overnight and see if anything else happens. So far thi...
I rehydrated them a bit, but will soak them overnight and see if anything else happens. So far this is the best I can do in the way of detail.
Thanks again, even if no one can figure it out...I'm leaning toward flukes, lung, intestinal? There were so many in the toilet, shriveled dark tomato skin looking things too.
” ... (zapping is entirely safe for anyone, kids included, ... ” ... I agree, also it is safe for...
(zapping is entirely safe for anyone, kids included,
I agree, also it is safe for parasitic worms, they simply don't care and resume their life after a zapping session (even after many hours of zapping) useless hype devices
Attack/harrassment post 2. You are just hate/fear mongering the zapper, in my opinion. How have YOU tested to ensure what you say has any validity?
Straight from Dr. Clark:
"What makes me think I can find things in the human body that a blood test can not? What new technology makes this possible? Why is electronic testing superior in many ways to chemical methods? What are my claims of electrically killing parasites based on?
In 1988 I discovered a new way to scan a body organ. It was electronic. We already can “see” an organ with a sonogram, Xrays, computerized tomography (CAT) scan, or with magnetic resonance imagery (MRI). These techniques can identify abnormal shapes in an organ without having to explore or guess.
But my new electronic technique can check for viruses, bacteria, fungi, parasites, solvents and toxins, and in addition is simple, cheap, fast and infallible. Electricity can do many magical things; now we can add detecting substances in our body to that list.
The method rests on radio electronic principles.
If you match, very precisely, the capacitance and inductance properties of an external circuit so that its resonant frequency is the same as the emitted frequency coming from somewhere else, the circuit will oscillate. This means there will be positive feedback in an amplifier circuit. You can hear it. Like when a public address system squeals.'
Page 5 'Cure for all diseases'
I have one, it works too, although I never gathered many slides to make it something I could use a lot.
'In 1994 my son built a hand held, battery operated, accurate frequency generator. The purpose was to enable everyone to kill the intestinal fluke at 434,000 Hz with a low cost device. Enough benefit would be derived from zapping at various frequencies that I thought everyone should know how to make one. When I tested it on one of my own bacteria, however, three others at much different frequencies died also! This had never happened
before. When I tested it on others, even though they had dozens of pathogens, all were killed!
Subsequent testing showed it was not due to some unique design, or special wave form produced by the device. It was due to battery operation!
Any positively offset frequency kills all bacteria, viruses and parasites simultaneously given sufficient voltage (5 to 10 volts), duration (seven minutes), and frequency (anything from 10 Hz to 500,000 Hz)."CFAD',page 15-16
I have been diagnosed with intestinal Candida (confirmed by a stool test) and leaky gut. The naturopath also noted that my TSH was slightly high (3.8 and 4.2 during two separate blood tests). A few months ago I was diagnosed with lactose intolerance and SIBO and placed on antibiotics (Rifaximin), which helped my digestive issues, though they subsequently returned about a month later. With regards to the Candida, I have been placed on a very strict Paleo diet by the Naturopath I saw- I am only allowed to eat meats/fish and veggies (no potatoes, though sweet potatoes are okay) and two small pieces of fruit a day. This is supplemented by Oregano Oil supplements (10 days on, 10 days off), probiotics, and digestive enzymes as well as melatonin for insomnia. I have been tested for Celiac and gluten intolerance (via genetic test) as well and those were negative.
I am incredibly skinny and lost alot of weight earlier this year due to some personal issues and an attempt to eat healthier that in reality (and without realizing) was way too calorie restrictive, while also exercising way too hard for my calorie intake. I was never anorexic in terms of thinking I was fat but i definitely became too obsessed with eating healthy and my caloric intake was probably less than 1000 calories after working out for months. I think this may be the root of why I started to have digestive issues, though I have no idea (I also moved abroad, etc).
In terms of symptoms,I started with alot of bloating (especially during the evening), horrible gas, going to the bathroom rarely with loose stools, and feeling of fullness/pressure. I was also pretty easily irritable, depressed, have Raynaud's (cold hands/feet), trouble sleeping, and had alot of trouble concentrating/memory. Post the rifaximin, I felt much better for awhile but eating a "normal" and thus higher calorie diet caused severe diarrhea and abdominal pain. I am supposed to be going for a colonoscopy soon, as the Dr. suspects that the bacterial and now Candida Infection s point to digestive issues as the root cause.
Anyways, has anyone had success on the Candida diet? I have had less digestion issues since following the strict veggie & meat/fish (with some fruit) that I have been on but I find myself very tired and still losing weight.
To be honest, looking online is so confusing with regards to the Candida diet. Ie, Quinoa & grains is okay in some sites, not on others. Others say completely no grain and no fruits, others no. I'm willing to follow the diet if it will help cure me but I am honestly losing more weight and have very low energy, despite consuming spoonfuls of coconut oil and being very liberal in adding olive oil. I am 5'10" and have dropped to 100lbs so continuing to follow this diet and possibly lose more weight scares me. I have yet to see that it has really helped cure many people. Any thoughts/suggestions on how I can help cure my digestion issues?
I would like to incorporate some type of grain or carbohydrates if people have seen that it works for them in the battle against Candida so as to up my caloric intake. I just find the low sugar/low carb confusing, as I understand (though correct me if I'm wrong) that the body will convert fat and protein to glucose if needed so it seems like Sugar will eventually be in the body anyways for the candida to consume...
Thanks for any help and advice
"The diet seemed to help a little, but the yeast was still there. I sank into a depression after six months of “healthy living.” With every meal, I began to feel like I was just force-feeding myself so that I could get through the day.
“Why do you stick with it?” my boyfriend asked one day.
“Because I don’t want to be sick,” I replied.
“But is the diet even helping?”
“A little? Dr. Sal said it would take a few years. You know, baby steps.”
"At the end of June, after almost seven months, I went back to a regular diet. I’d lost 40 pounds. My cheeks were sunken, and I had dark circles under my eyes. I needed nutrients. I needed to feel normal again."
Agreed, the so-called candida diet (which doesn’t even exist) or paleo diets are the worst possibl...
Agreed, the so-called candida diet (which doesn't even exist) or paleo diets are the worst possible diets you can follow, especially in your situation (addressing the original poster) of being underweight. The only benefit to paleo or low-carb diets is you will have less digestive discomfort because proteins don't tend to ferment in the intestines when your digestion is sluggish, however long-term low-carb diets will make everything 100 times worse including digestion, most people become totally carb-intolerant and develop other food intolerances on a low-carb diet because their digestion becomes extremely impaired. Avoid this diet like the plague. You need a healthy balanced diet with plenty of carbohydrates in your situation. It may not feel comfortable for now because you are likely not digesting most of your food and then it is fermenting in your intestines but that doesn't mean your body still doesn't need it. You need to correct your digestion and overall balance of your body. Any doctor that you go to should be telling you how they are going to get you back into balance. If they suggest paleo diets (or any other fad diets) or anti-fungals to treat candida, they have no clue how to treat the body as a whole and are no better than regular mainstream Western medicine (which is completely pathetic of course). The absolute key to curing candida is correcting your digestive function and immune system, it has nothing to do with starving the candida or blasting it out with anti-fungals.
Thank you very much for all your help. I understand that Paleo may not always necessarily be low-c...
Thank you very much for all your help. I understand that Paleo may not always necessarily be low-carb but the current version of Paleo that the naturopath has me on definitely is- I am only allowed veggies & protein and 2 fruits a day. I definitely have issues with Carbs as when I went home over Christmas I just decided to try eating normally (plus all the Christmas goodies) to see if digestive issues would just disappear if I ate normally. The result was severe abdominal pain and diarrhea for 2 weeks. It was awful. Shortly after was when I was diagnosed with Candida and the diet stopped the diarrhea and pain (though it comes back every once in awhile). I definitely agree that I dont think the diet is the best for me. I expressed my concerns to the Dr. and he just told me to eat more avocado and coconut to get more calories.
Any suggestions on how to improve digestion and avoid intolerances when transitioning to a regular carb or regular diet? I want to be able to eat carbs and everything but am afraid of returning to feeling horribly sick, as I need to work, live etc. I definitely have candida in the intestine... how can I eradicate it? Everything I see points to this diet...
I understand your situation very well and it is very difficult to correct your digestion once it h...
I understand your situation very well and it is very difficult to correct your digestion once it has got to this state. It is important to understand that you have candida because your digestion is impaired, not the other way round. Most people think you just need to eliminate candida, then your body returns to a healthy state, it is the opposite, help your body to return to a healthy state and candida will also be removed. It is hard to give specific advice to you because I don't really know enough about you, but what I would say is that however you got yourself in this situation, do the opposite to get yourself out. So you were under-eating, over-excersicing, malnourished and that is what got you sick, so do the opposite to correct your health. Eat regular, nourishing, healthy meals, with a healthy balance of carbohydrates, fat and protein and keep consistent meal times. You should prepare your own food and it should be all foods in their natural state, unprocessed. As I said, yes carbohydrates may cause digestive issues currently, but that doesn't mean they are bad for you or that you should avoid them. This is a very common mistake people make, myself included, to avoid carbohydrates and you set yourself on a path to disease and suffering for a long time. I see the pattern time and time again on curezone of people that eat low-carb, they feel a bit better for a while but over time develop more and more food intolerances and eventually notice that even their low-carb diet makes them feel sick by this point you have dug yourself a very deep hole that becomes more and more difficult to get out of. Don't exercise too much, go for relaxing walks and do slow-paced yoga. No you can't just eat normal food, you have to take care, find the foods that give you the least amount of reaction, some people do well on potatoes and squash, for me white basmati rice is great. You may want to go easy on the fruits for now, but you have to find nourishing carbohydrate foods that you can eat on a regular basis. Coconut oil and avocados are fine but they should not be a staple of your diet.
okay...many thanks for the quick reply! :) ... ... I have always eaten ”regular” meals (3 times a...
okay...many thanks for the quick reply! :)
I have always eaten "regular" meals (3 times a day, 2 snacks a day) but I will definitely work on increasing the calorie intake in each meal by incorporating carbohydrates. Will probably lay off bread for now but will try to incorporate rice, oats, quinoa, etc until I feel like my body can handle gluten/bread. Any other suggestions on food? I usually snack on fruit or yogurt but had to stop the yogurt with the lactose intolerance. I recently tried tahini (though this technically wasnt allowed) but noticed my symptoms were worse with it so i stopped. Potatoes and sweet potatoes are definitely a good idea. Will try the sweet potatoes tonight.
Yes, I would agree staying away from bread is probably wise. Modern wheat is a toxic poison that ...
Yes, I would agree staying away from bread is probably wise. Modern wheat is a toxic poison that shouldn't be consumed by humans. Anything with yeast in it will tend to ferment more in the intestines. Rice, oats and quinoa seem pretty safe, amaranth is also very good but the taste may not be for everyone, very nutritious though. If you eat fruit it should be eaten alone not combined with anything this will decrease fermentation in the gut. Some fruits will ferment more than others, see what you feel okay with. I find it strange that you have symptoms of lactose intolerance from yogurt, as the bacteria in the yogurt actually breaks down and digests the lactose so there is very little lactose if any by the time you consume it. You could be feeling a reaction of the probiotics themselves, some people can have problems with fermented foods.
about 3-4 weeks ago i did a 10 day fast and dropped to sub BMI of high17, low 18 (not a big deal).. I had a good few weeks of re-feeding but seemed to not put on the weight, as I was pretty cautious with what ate, broke my fast over a few days, and continued with internal cleansing every 3-4 days. If there was a special treat like home baked goods (organic, no refined flours or sugars) I would split it up over days.. so obviously careful moderation was taken.
I was about 51kg (112) 168cm (5'5'') going into the new fast (2nd oct) - which is technically underweight but no too bad... My re-feeding didn't really bulk me up though. I have not weighed myself and am wearing lots of baggy warm clothes (avoidance much??) . I have noticed that I am loosing weight more rapidly than in my previous fast. I also noticed that It was hard for me to gain any substantial weight in refeeding..
at what weight is it dangerous for me to continue to fast?
Is there a point that I should stop fasting? or should my body somehow cope and find a way to stabilise my weight?
any info/experience would be appreciated. I am not worried for myself, and I know when and how to break if it gets bad, but I would like to re-assure my family as they are seeming albeit supportive, but quite concerned.