Is distilled water needed, or is it okay to just use big berkey filtered water? How much does water quality matter?
Distilled water is not only the best for fasting, but everyday drinking, and cooking.
I've always used my tap water, but I live in a location where chlorine and flouride are not added to the water supply.
According to Waterwise distiller co., There are 28 different possible contaminants that could be in tap water.
That doesn't mean they are in everybodys tap water, but that's 26 more than what you mentioned.
Bottled water only is free from chlorine only
Carbon filter removes 9
Reverse Osmosis with a carbon filter removes all but 4. Of those 4 only 3 partially.
The company claims with their distiller with a carbon filter they remove all 28.
Yea, it would sound better if it was from an independant source, but pretty ridiculous to think there are only two possible. [chlorine, and fluoride].
HALF way Today!--- Day 15 of my 30 day fast!
I am in much better shape after 15 days (this time around) then I was in my last fast after say, 5 or 7 of a 10 day fast. I think the main difference is clearly spirituality and just remembering God much more. This is all only possible with His will.
My dear loved ones have just discoved the reality that it will indeed take another 2 whole weeks at least after my fast is broken for me to eat any sort of meal-type-thing. My partner has infomed me that lots of people loost their lives re-feeding. Dear Lord!
I am preparing a shopping list for them to get me over the two weeks and I was wanting advice, help, suggestions!
What juices should I have diluted for the first few days? I am very cautious to not spike my blood sugar and hurt my fragile liver...
What should I have following that? I have some broths in storage prepared but not sure when to add them?
My list is as follows so far (all certified organic! thank God)...
My supplements to take after I have re-fed for two weeks are:
All these supplements make me feel sick to the stomach just thinking about it... but if they are going to all work together nicely to shrink my cyst then I will give it a go. My partner believes its out of place and it should all be solved via REAL FOOD... I would like for that to be the case... but so far it hasnt reall worked for me despite my good diet.
Please advice of suggestions or ammendments and if someone could advise a nice little order that I could have these in... like for eg... day 1 - diluted juvi coconut water... Day 2 juvi flesh... or something like that
Is this part of the process or are these signs of danger?
Could be any number of things
What kind of water are you drinking? If tap, or bottled water [Most of that is also tap water]. Distilled is best for fasting.
Sounds like you should listen to your body and end the fast in favor of good nourishing food to see if the problems go away.
The acidic taste in the mouth might indicate teeth. Have any amalgam fillings?, root canals?
Last time you were tested for enough Iodine, or ever test your self with a spot test?
Do you take supplements?
I suggest going back to eating until you answer the questions, and any others you can think of. A 3 day fast shouldn't do this to you, but who knows, we're all different.
The question is why would our system leave a package(cyst), as you describe, in the system. Normally the system deals with extra unwanted or unneeded components in the same way a house holder would deal with either a bag of kitchen refuse or a bag of yard material gathered after working outside. The one that is more quickly susceptible to breakdown would be disposed of sooner than the one that is less prone to "oxidation", like old concrete or rocks or wood cuttings. One is removed quickly, the other may be allowed to stay put, out of the way. Each determination and procedure would be affected by the health and the available energy of the participating system. If the householder is too old and weak or young but infirm, both things may become problematic and the problem only becomes acute depending on the nature of the different bags contents or in the addition of bags accumulating. Our systems respond similarly whether its the cleansing ability of the lymphatic system or the reproduction ability of each cell. If our energy is adequate, the systems functions are adequate. If not, for some reason, places of subpar function result, will be acquired and potentially accumulate.
If we fast or if the householder goes on a very long hiatus from work or retires, he might, as our body systems should, in that freed from work distraction, peruse the overall status of the system and do any needed upkeep and cleaning that had been neglected or considered unnecessary.
If the cyst you describe is a regular fluid or somewhat fluidic cyst then sure we might expect it to have been autolyzed on a 30 day fast, tho since it didn't happen, we might consider that the cyst is too isolated from the systems at play, normal kidney and kidney cells functions, involving the blood and the lymphatic systems cells and actions, by a membrane or by the state of the area, where it is being isolated from normal fluid circulation. (like a bag of old tree twigs lying covered over by something in a back corner of the yard or left inadvertently in a shed, unseen).
Or it may be that the situation is compromised in both examples, from achieving normal actions by a lower running voltage, thus a weakened state, a chronic fatigue has set in, and thus the cells involved normally expected actions and reactions would be dampened and subpar in performing their expected activities.
Determining the present running voltage of a subpar system aids the diagnosis and possible treatment protocol. If we cant determine that we can still add energy to the subpar running system while we are also investigating other alternative possibilities and are making sure of the basic environmental integrity of the overall systems being influenced by outside or hidden inner negative factors(infections), or the loss of or lack of raw materials. However the main thrust of this analogy is that low energy is the main reason why any system eventually becomes noticed as being subpar and while certain factors may need to be corrected before others. By first adding energy, we prime and boost the system back to some semblance of normal functioning and away from it's present lack of necessary healthy functioning.
So adding Voltage or a helper in the case of the octogenarian, is a good idea in any case.
Earthing as mentioned may be the lest expensive unless we actually go hog wild and buy some of the advertised accoutrements. Daily or nightly routines might be established using any number of simple tecniques, from Archus'es lying on a field, or being covered in earth(daily for hours), to attaching a complete circuit connection from earth to our body. Tho the time element is to be considered for the length of treating ease and how long the treatments will need to be done until we notice a response (kinda tough if we are dealing with a serious condition,) (Tennant has patients attach skin patches and carry his voltage inducing unit around 24 hrs a day till the circuit in question returns to expectations.(Ive worn mine for hours at a time).
I still like the micro current devices advertised on that less expensive site, or the PEMF units, tho the addition of using Tennants Biomodulator to check the field strength at the different body meridians is best (some hospitals use a machine to do the same. cant remember the name off hand maybe Nakatoni something).
Also DMSO's carrying ability added to Tincture of Cayenne's burn mimicking, fluid drawing actions, are also a simple inexpensive treatment(to be carried on for a time tho, like fasting or castor oil packs as most of the alternative, as opposed to Allopathic, treatments, need to be done).
Surgicly removing a 2cm cyst seems like minor Operation (tho its only minor when its happening to someone else) tho the kidney is delicate and complex of course and scarring avoidance is part of why the non surgical route is preferred. And correcting or at least determining the causation is an important step often ignored or missed by 'regular' medicine.
First Iodine, second or also first, Voltage.
Tho another excellent supplement, along with the Iodine supps, is the DMSO derivative, organic sulfer, MSM. It not only plays an important role as a constituent of a cell membrane's makeup and permeability but it will hook up with numerous substances in our system which we would like removed but are difficult to chelate out(creating a sulfide, with which the body cannot abide, so it is put, like the kitchen trash, outside). MSM should not be taken in pill form and the amount I take is 2 teaspoons to 2 tablespoons a day. It has some remarkable properties, is always good to take and especially if we are trying to correct some situation. OK enough.
(and C Dickens mother said, "If you are bored, there's a short story contest in the newspaper today.")
Ive had hard long term, large and small, sebacious cysts disappear, never to reappear, while on longer(week plus) fasts, and Ive had skin tags completly removed with 30 day programs of topical castor oil or fig sap, come back in the exact same place. Over the century the idea has been that many simple non threatening skin outbreaks are origined at the liver rather than at the manifestation site. Also Ive found that using an oxidizer therapy(MMS, mega dosing Vit C, H2O2) for a thirty day regimin, produces overall health positive effects and one noticed is the receding or elimination of semi permanant skin and or eye (sclera) signs.
I agree with 90% of what Jaguar posts, but in his recent helpful post on avoiding cancer stimulants, there is a small point I contend with(besides his "disagreeing" with the well publicised fact that fasting stimulates the immune system). After having found a study some time ago I posted it recently, and it relates to Jag's post on 'C' and your's on autolysis. (Its from a 2012 study and its no wonder that its conclusions have been ignored since it disproves the value of all currently practiced AMA approved standard of care cancer treatments).
(previous post) http://www.curezone.info/forums/fm.asp?i=2299276
T Seyfried, Cancer as a Metabolic Disease: On the Origin, Management, and Prevention of Cancer (Wiley, 1st ed., 2012).
on.Autolysis: He (Seyfried) proceeded with cancerous lab animal studies, where he put them on a water only diet, and in a matter of days the animals cancerous cells recovered their normal functioning.
He then used the protocol on humans and had the same positive results with the caveat that the glucose levels had to be lower than 65 and the blood ketones level had to be at least 2."
on 'C's origin:
----- after removing the nucleus of a healthy cell and replacing it with the nucleus of a cancerous cell, the cell did not become cancerous. He then replaced the cancerous cell nucleus with one from a healthy cell and that cell did not become healthy." (implicating a causation other than gene related. And Tennant finds it to be Voltage/Oxygen related.)
And of course he (Seyfried) did it numerous times and six different research institutions replicated his experiments findings. All succesfully.
So genes were determined not to be the causative factor. The damaged genes appear to be the results of the cellular environment in cancer, and thus any gene related protocol would be "tecnically" ineffective.
(Further research into this topic also reveal that it is likely that the tumor cell's DNA processing is not as damaged as previous researchers would have us think, due to the actual work being done by the tumors cells in that unusual environment(unusual until we study what happens in the creation of a placenta being prepared------). And that the tumor is created due to specific intra and extra cellular environmental factors and that in changing/reversing those inter and extracellular environmental factors , the tumor is autolyzed by the cells own machinations, quickly).
(The mitochondrial damage percieved by previous researchers (and their assumption of the gene's missworkings), as well as the presence of pathogens in tumors seems to be of secondary outcome and significance, and not as causation for tumor growth).
Traditionaly we have been trained and thus we are predisposed to think only of killing the unwanted. Tho mimicing our body's ability to eradicate using H2O2, Vit C or other oxidising agents can be helpful and even successful, more often than not if the cellular environmental conditions arent metobolicly improved our ailling condition either reappears, morphs or moves to another area of our body.
Furthermore if we use oxidisers at large concentrations or for lengths of time and not account for the free radicals being created by taking large doses of free radical scavengers we will create more stress and breakdown in our systems. Thus using Oxidisers that mimic our bodies abilites needs may be beneficial for numerous minor situations but may not be as good a choice as we assume when we are faced with serious illness. And this is where a more consise understanding of how our systems work and how they become subpar is extremly helpful and important in knowing how to end serious ailments.
Our bodies particular abilities to erradicate disease may be seen as less important than our bodies overall ability to naturally stay healthy/balanced.(This is related to how we switch from an Aerobic(high PH) to an Anaerobic(low PH) state, and it's implications for pathogen activity and dormancy). And this is why so many still suffer from symptoms of degenerating cell conditions tho man has found and used many antibiotic agents, natural and contrived. If our cellular/organ functioning isnt rehabilitated, no oxidising agent or therapy will suffice to end our woes. (Many people using oxidisers dont consider when using the blood stream, that our blood is only about 20% of our fluid by volume, so that while we may affect it's health by using powerfull IV H2O2 or O3, we often still suffer from the ailment due to it's being more wholisticly located in our system).
There can be a number of reason why your systems are acting as they are. Why you developed the symptoms you describe, and didn't achieve what you wanted/expected by fasting. (And fasting without tecniques like using alkalinisers like fruit, grass and or vegetable juices or other free radical scavengers(ie vit C) as mentioned is usually counterproductive because healthy productive fasting is not about depriving as much as it is about correcting, cleansing, accentuating and assisting the regaining of systems health (I have little(no) respect for Shelton as quasi health promoter or person and especially the misinformation on what is or isn't "real" fasting).
You can still figure it out and correct the concern w some investigation, diagnosis and effort at assisting your system (before cutting).
Tennants book "Cancer's On and Off Switches" (and it is about basic subpar health states not just cancer) is an informative and cutting edge human systems biology text.
Study Tennant's work: https://vimeo.com/search?q=healing+is+voltage
If you are not taking Iodine, the cells and organs fluid expression ability(elimination ect) will be as limited.
I think of autolysis as a response to our system fireing up and getting into proper balance and function rather than our system eating the unwanted.
Research has shown that our cells abilities are predicated on the oxygen they can utilize, the raw materials available, and the degree they may be comprimized by toxins(pathogen action and waste, heavy metals). And the oxygen availability is determined by the Voltage they are running at. With a low Voltage a cell becomes slowly deprived of oxygen which causes low energy creation. If the cell V is too low to keep energy requirments up, the created anerobic conditions outcomes start a decline into early untimely cell death.
Normal Voltage(-25mv) is equalibrium, high voltage (-50mv) (inflamation) is a sign our cells are rebuilding, low voltage(masses, grey slow healing or unable to heal tissue) (-10mv) is a sign of our cells inability to keep up with it's requirments.
(this is why 'Archus' mentions earthing, because in physically connecting with the earth we are connecting with a large electron field, and if we connect a large surface area, like our bare back(or to be buried as in ancient practices)(tho our bare feet are excellent and part of the natural design), we are also allowing that electrical earth field to be in an overall interface and complete any of our circuitry routes which are presently down or blocked (emotional blocks, dental infection blocks, scar tissue blocks, of our fascia circuitry). This is how Polarity Screens achieve their value also, by bypassing our normal circuitry routes, so as to feed current to subpar/blocked units).
(Intersting fact that tho the human body cell Voltage seems low, if we compute the cell membrane(the battery of the cell) voltage by using it's size between the inner and outter walls of the membrane, the voltage increases to a very high almost unbelievable potential of 100,000 V per meter). (human spontaneous conbustion, tummo, ect ect)
One of Gerson's main contributions was in his understanding of how to unprecedentedly, influence his patients systems to use the very high doses of Vit A he was giving them by using multiple daily Coffee Enemas. His treatments and Hoxeys and Essiac are among the most successful treatments to have been used against cancer. Hoxey's blood cleaning herbal mixture(w similar to Essiac ingredients) cured tens of thousands over years going back to his father who started using the mixture on horses w such success that it naturally bloomed into a regular treatment for cancers in humans. Hoxey had many MDs investigating and supporting his cancer treatments till his clinic was shut down in 1960?.
Maybe the easiest thing you could do is up your nutrition with(complete foods) daily multiple oz of chlorophyll juice or raw milk(w digestive assistance) and take CoQ10 500mgs a day to reaquire some cellular energy that is obviously missing. I would take Z Bush's product "RESTORE" http://restore4life.com/publications-articles/
And did I mention IODINE !!! http://www.tennantinstitute.us/thyroid-support
I see from your previous posts that------------------ youve been working at it.
Steve Jobs is a good example of an illness treatment not considering (and w a Vegan choice of diet plan actually opposing) our bodies serious fat requirments of 20%, filling our voltage/oxygen energy creating relationship needs. (Since our cell's energy storage inside of our cells membrane consists of lipids(fats), to meet our cells energy requirments we need to include adequate fat in our diet for the running of overall cell function and health)
The idea that Vitamin C could assist the metabolism of a cancerous situation as opposed to assist in ending it, is relying on inferior or an incomplete study on the matter. (I think KMG is innocently passing on valuable, but incomplete info, encountered in her investigation of this disease. Which is only germane as a caveat if anyone is trying to eradicate a cancer by relying soley on a Vit C protocol, while neglecting to reverse metabolic causes of the tumor also).
Vit C (the third discovered (thus labeled 'C' after 'B'), essential (meaning humans cannot live without it) nutrient), is a molecule combining, among other attributes, two different actions(thus a super health molecule). It can reduce electrons in a gram negative, (pathogenic) (negatively charged membrane), organism encountered, thus killing it, and it can also donate electrons, thus changing a deconstructing 'free radical' (cation) atom into a balanced unharming state. Thus it is a good example of a true Redox molecule, one that reduces and oxidises.(Ionic Silver, O3 and H2O2 can only oxidise for example, and thus create, w each killing, deconstructing structures, aka 'free radicals', waste, rot. The process(aka reducing) of changing these harmful structures to harmless is aka alkalinizing, and its byproduct is in raising the environments PH (the hydrogen potential), increasing the potential for healthy cellular functioning). (BTW One of Z Bush's RESTORE molecule discovery specialnesses, is that while most all Redox molecules can only transfer or gain electrons once for either or each, the carbon Redox molecule structure that he found in millinial old deposits, orginally created by bacteria, has the ability to affect transfer multiple times over. Combine that with its ability to provoke Intestinal and healthy body flora repopulation and this product stands out, worthy of investigating.)
A media source decrying the use of Vit C, even if based on research, by reporting that Vit C had increased a tumor size, would be misconstruing facts as we know them and missing the reasoning behind that result. Not considering the understanding of, as we now do (as incomplete as that may be presently), the mechanism of 'normal' and 'sub normal' cell health and divisioning, thus attributing the actions of high dose Vit C to a cancers growth as a final statement on Vit C use in cancer care, would be incomplete and missleading.
Since Vit C's functioning is as a required and normal part of our bodies processing, (internally synthesized in mega doses when ill or injured in all creatures but a few), to associate the addition of Vit 'C' in the mentioned way is similar to the findings of those who induce EM Field's and Frequencies to pathogenic organisms, intending dissolution but instead often findind the reverse.
The quandary to this(natural vit C or natural EMF's as promoter of tumor or pathogen health) is resolved by the more complete understanding and implications of how our cells function. And the more complete, than commonly known, information on how and why a cancerous cell mass is created, how it exists and how it's life cycle ends.(Non cancerous masses are far different in creation and metabolism).
Linking as example 'Vit C' and the EMFields for this explanation is based on each ones ability to donate energy and thus empower a cell system running on 'electricity'.
And tho a cancer tumor's cell's metabolic functioning is different then a 'regular' cell's, it is still running on electricity, and thus it is this which is being addressed and assisted, rather than eithers different metabolic style or life cycle effects on the overall biological system.
And thus the result of the added energy, to either a pathogenic micro organism, in the case of the E Field, or to the cell of a cancerous tumor, in the case of the added Vit C, can be interpreted and considered important, as mentioned by KMJ. Tho the implications of that interpretation would be incomplete and erroneous as to value, in either usage as protocol, unless cell metabolism(cancerous or non) is included in the analysis, hypothesis and determined medical protocol on the subject.
BTW This is in reference to cancer tumors not growths, since certain mass growths(cysts, boils ect) occur for different reasons than a cancerous tumor would (not withstanding that these growths may become cancerous, that would still be by more involved reasons than their original creation).
Fasting may promote formation of gallstones.
Flush your liver before and after every fast, to prevent formation of large stones.
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