I'm looking for non-sulforous agents for mercury, lead, cadmium and strontium chelation. To my knowledge, the essentials for chelation seem to based around sulfurous agents such as gluathione, NAC, ALA, garlic, EDTA etc which unfortunately are not an option for me.
On a daily basis, I have been taking 200-300% RDA of selenium in various forms for 7 months, in addition to 1000-5000%RDA vitamin c (as ascorbic acid, which is unavoidable as it's in several of my existing supplements), and 1-2 capsules of grape seed extract (since about a week however I've switched to powder). Four days ago I started taking molybdenum (400% RDA) RDA, but my urine test two months ago showed high levels of molybdenum (I was taking the same 400%RDA dose of it then) at the time so I'm not sure if it's something I should be doing, but I read it supported the sulfur pathway, so the benefits seemed to outweigh the cons.
As neither chlorella nor Andy Cutler's protocol are feasible for me both due to sulfation issues, SNPs and gastrointestinal ones, someone suggested magentic clay footbaths, chitosan, and a product called Complete Metal Cleanse. I'm wondering if anyone else has had experience with any of these?
Chitosan is a fat binder, but I'm a little worried it may bind all the supposedly beneficial fats I take (coconut oil; olive oil; vegan EFAs; although to be fair none of them have stopped my condition from deteriorating). The CMC looks pretty decent, but imposes 6 hour restrictions (3 hours either side of taking it) on taking other supplements, which would be difficult for me as I take 30-40 supplements per day and there are simply not enough hours to fit them all in. I guess I could set my alarm to wake me up 4 hours into my sleep and take it then, but doesn't sleeping hamper the digestive process? The magnetic clay footbaths look like the best option for me, even though they're expensive, and @ahmo says she found them very useful.
Additionally, does anyone know of any non-sulfurous agents that cross the blood-brain barrier?
I’m an utter dolt. Didn’t mean to post this, either. I hasten to add, I have severe CFS/ME (about ...
I'm an utter dolt. Didn't mean to post this, either. I hasten to add, I have severe CFS/ME (about 20% functionality phsyically and cognitively), Hashimoto's, candida, several metal toxicities, autism (hence the social stumbling), PCOS, rope worm, and adrenal insufficiency (which my doctors are not treating). This is copy pasted from another forum I post on, in which I was having a conversation with a forum member, hence the @ahmo.
I have done some cleanses using USP grade bentonite internally and it really pulls toxins out of y...
I have done some cleanses using USP grade Bentonite internally and it really pulls toxins out of your system. Many people combine it with psyllium husk to help move things through the intestines more efficiently. I have also had good success using Sea Salt as an internal cleanse. You can do baths with Sea Salt and Bentonite but your results may not be as good as internal cleanses. Both Cleanses below:
Then add a bit of cold water, (pure or filtered water) to make a paste. Fill glass up with water, stir. Drink quickly before it turns into oatmeal. Chase with another glass of water.
Day 1: Start with one drink in the morning upon waking. Keep a bottle of warm water by your side and drink lots in the morning with or without lemon juice to get your bowels started, naturally.
Day 2 and on: Basically, everyone is different. Some people can jump right in and within a few days be taking 4 B&P drinks a day. Others need to go slowly..starting with one for a few days...see how their bowels move...then add another one last thing before bed. The goal is to get up to between 3 and 5 a day.
Your first Bowel Cleanse using B&P's can be done for up to 6 months for your first bowel cleanse. You can eat normally, but well, during the Bowel Cleanse with Bentonite and Psyllium and get out lots of mucoid plaque. It's best to try to avoid mucoid-forming foods...meats, white bread, sugar, dairy.
The Key: is to drink the B&P drinks on an empty stomach. You must not eat for one hour before taking the drink and one hour after drinking the drink. That is very important. The Bentonite Clay needs to absorb toxins and the Psyllium husks need to scrub out the corners of your intestines all by themselves. Food will inturrupt their work!
One must drink lots of warm water while doing the B&P Bowel Cleanse - to ensure that you don't get constipated. Remember that warm water stimulates peristalsis (the bowels) and cold water doesn't. Drink at least 2 litres of warm water a day...or half your body weight in ounces per day.
While doing this cleanse it is helpful to imagine that with each elimination you're having you're getting rid of any old outworn, un-needed thoughts, ideas, feelings...
A little information about Bentonite Clay:
Bentonite is known for its highly absorptive properties and its ability to draw out and bind heavy metals, drugs and other toxins from the body. This clay has been used for thousands of years as both an internal and external purification aid.
Bentonite is one of the volcanic ashes. It is not a drug or chemical composition made in a laboratory. It is a product of Mother Earth. Bentonite in ages past was blown into the sky by volcanic action, which sifted down to help impregnate the soil with its 25 to 35 trace minerals. Bentonite, under a high-power microscope, is seen as extremely minute rectangular particles, similar in shape to a business card. When hydrated, it generates and maintains a very strong electromagnetic field, which allows it to attract and hold unwanted , non-nutritive substances such as pesticides and other toxins so that they can be eliminated from the body.
Sea Salt Flush
Have you heard of the Sea Salt flush? Some likened it to be a toilet flush since it is a process of removing waste products. Naturopathic practitioners recommend taking a sea salt flush to help in the removal of toxins and waste from the digestive tract. A sea salt flush is an alternative treatment to taking harsh and commercial medications for digestive complaints such as constipation, gas and bloating. The sea salt flush acts as a laxative to assist the body in achieving for new and positive changes.
The sea salt flush is essentially a combination of sea salt and warm water. Sea salt is preferred for cleansing as compared to normal processed salt due to its rich minerals. A sea salt flush is capable of drawing out impurities from your digestive tract as well as provide you with the necessary electrolytes that you find hard to obtain from your normal diet.
Do note that a sea salt flush is not everyone. Those suffering from ulcers, cancer, or digestive illnesses should not jump into it. Instead they should carefully research this cleansing method carefully and consult their doctor before proceeding. Additionally, if you suffer from severe constipation, try to use a herbal laxative one or two days before starting on the sea salt water flush.
Here is the recipe. Simply combine 2 teaspoons of unrefined sea salt with 2 quarts of warm water. You may add lemon juice to make the drink more palatable. This drink is also best taken in the morning at 7 in the morning, when you awake. Consider doing some deep breathing exercises while taking the sea salt water.
You can do the sea salt flush for 3 days. Some experts recommend up to 7 days.
You can expect to see some benefits, perhaps not immediately but after two to three days. Your intestines are cleansed and you find yourself having an uplift in your moods due to renewed energy. You may also see improvements in respiratory and sinus functions. In fact, the sea salt cleanse is also a common folk remedy for colds or as a natural antihistamine. It is also possible to stabilize the heart rate and relieve muscle pain since the process also balances electrolytes. Other indirect benefits from the sea salt flush include reduced body odor fresher breath, and improved skin complexion.
1 tbsp Whole Psyllium Husk (not powdered) ... ... Why not the powdered? I bought the Liquid bent...
1 tbsp Whole Psyllium Husk (not powdered)
Why not the powdered? I bought the Liquid bentonite/powdered psyllium before I read your post as I have done these cleanse long before but I remember who icky they where. I gagged trying to drink the mixture in the morning as I am nauseaous about every morning which doesnt make it easy.
Just curious why are the clay baths not as effective. What if you have a lot of heavy metals? Can they be removed through the gut. Does the pull of the Bentonite taken internally remove metals from brain, etc etc...
Just curious why you say its not as effective?
Thanks so much for your help. No Mucoid Plaque yet in fact still kinda loosely formed light colored stools. I guess I will take another shake this evening.
The baths are good, I just think it takes longer to pull out the heavy metals that way. The Benton...
The baths are good, I just think it takes longer to pull out the heavy metals that way. The Bentonite can work over a much longer period of time,possibly 24hrs or more, as it passes through the digestive tract so you get more bang for your buck. Also it is a lot of work and a messy job to clean up these mud baths.
PS After I did a salt water flush a couple of weeks ago I felt much clearer mentally and physically. My vision also seemed a bit sharper.
... ... The baths aren’t only good. The baths are Very Good. ... ... I both take clay internall...
The baths aren't only good. The baths are Very Good.
I both take clay internally And do the clay baths. In my experience both are beneficial, but it is the clay baths that may help your body release toxins by the truckload and more so than juse eating the clays.
Go to eytonsearth.org and look under clay baths to see intsructions on how to go about doing these.
Hi prestonsmomma, ... ... I use both internal and external clay. ... They both work very well at ...
I use both internal and external clay.
They both work very well at helping eliminate junk from the system.
For me weakness and fatigue definetly lessened dramatically after several baths and several bowel cleanses. Especially after bowel cleanse.
I could not tell you what was in that black sludge at the end of the bath, but I can tell you it became less with each bath. Now I only do the bath on occasion and will pull out black junk again and take another bath til it lessens or is gone. Great tool to have to help us stay on track.
I found they easiet way for me to clean out the tub of most of the clay was with a dust pan and hand broom. sweep it up and dump it in a buck for removal. Then just rinse out the left over little bits. Little bits wont hurt anything. Especially if followed with plenty of water.
Either way you choose to use it, you win.
Best to you on your healing journey.
The stuff is great, works like a champ, although not super fast. It's gentle and effective both internally and externally.
USP grade clay, ehhhh, not a big fan. I prefer naturally deep mined clay. Wyoming Sodium Bentonite swells... however.... it is a primary clay. This means it is still sitting where the volcanic ash dropped it 750 million years ago...give or take a week or two. It is clean, with no organic or microbal activity. Calcium Bentonite doesn't swell as much, and seems to be preferred by most.... however, it is a secondary clay that has migrated hundreds of miles by fresh waterways. It generally has other organic substances that it picked up along the way and grains of silica sand. USP grade is chelated and cooked, and while it will still adsorb, it's nature has been altered, and it is no longer the same clay that Native Americans and animals use. In fact, if you put a pile of USP calcium Bentonite out, and some natural bentonite, animals will lick at the natural clay and disdain the USP grade. I have actually done this, as I have 3 types of bentonite, and 2 types of Montmorillonite in stock most of the time, and I live in a swamp full of wild animals, parrots, and all kinds of stuff. (Florida... EVERYTHING thrives here).
I personally prefer Sodium Bentonite for internal use. It does swell, but at a spoonfull per 8 oz of water, it's already fully hydrated when you ingest it, so it's fully swollen and it's a bit slimier, and goes through easily. I also think it tastes better.. (it all tastes kinda like dirt, but it has an earthier taste than calcium types and it isn't terribly unpleasant.)
I like calcium bentonite for external uses such as wraps and scrubs. The silica can be a nice exfoliate if it isn't sharp. For baths, I like a mix of both.
My protocols for the Bentonite detox is to take a Dead Sea Salt bath first, then Drain the tub and use Bentonite. The Dead Sea Salt seems to bring the toxins up closer to the surface of the skin. Baths will not detox you completely, it's mostly, a tissue thing. Internal use will remove toxins and chelate the blood and tissues, however, it won't happen overnight. My fastest internal detox is a 14 day, and I actually recommend a 28 day system. I use Green and Red Argiletz Montmorillonite with bentonite for body wraps, sodium and calcium in the tub, and sodium and green Montmorillonite internally. The internal aspect is done in stages, Week one is getting your body accustomed to the clay, and I also have D.E mixed in to clear simple parasites from the GI tract. Week 2 has more bentonite added to the mix and no more DE. Week 3 introduces Montmorillonite, Psyllium Husks, and Bentonite, Week 4 is basically the same with increased clay. Body wraps are also very effective, and have the added bonus of losing a few inches, and tightening the skin up.
I think that you need both internal and external to get the full benefit.
By all means use USP grade if you are uncomfortable with using natural clays. It has a lot of benefits if not all the trace minerals. Also the Argiletz French Montmorillonite I was talking about is the best of both worlds. It's actuall all natural sun dried clay, certified as USP without baking the crap out of it.
EDTA chelating, Bentonite clay and fat looking shstuff in my Poop..HELP!
I am currently chelating with EDTA for 3x above what is considered toxic Lead and also for Cadmium. I already have all my Amalgams out.
I have NWO syndrome (normal weight obese) as my body has held on to fat to protect my organs... in other words I don't look "fat" ... but my body has stored it.
When I had my Amalgams out back in June, I also had a crown replaced which has been hurting since then (3 months)- I have been taking some homeopathic meds, but a couple of days ago it got worse as an abscess appeared. So, I began applying Bentonite clay with essential oils and the improvement was amazing. So, last night I slept with a pack of bentoninte clay mixed with EOs (between gum & cheek) ... I forgot to take my prescribed dose of chlorella and other liver support ....
and this am my BM was covered in what looked like chicken fat. Gross. I know.
But I am worried!
I also have a headache and neck hurts (on left side)
Is this bc my liver was not supported or is it bc I slept for about 4 hrs with the Bentonite clay (and inevitably swallowed some of it?).... could it be a detox or should I be worried? (well... I am already worried, but hope it is a detox thing?)
Two days ago marked my first month of EDTA chelating (I am on it for 3 months then tested again to see how it went)...
“The Great Work of the Metal Lover” display, by Brown and Kashefi (Michigan State University) (top image). Included is the aesthetically-engaging, original glass chemostat used to grow the microbe, a metal manifold for gas distribution, and a heated glass copper column that removes any traces of oxygen from the gas supply. Cupriavidus biofilms and the gold grains they produce are visible at the bottom of the vessel (bottom image). Source.
In 2001, Kashefi and collaborators published an article in Applied and Environmental Microbiology reporting the surprising finding that several iron-reducing microbes can use gold as an electron acceptor for their respiration. These microbial alchemists included both mesophilic and thermophilic bacteria as well as hyperthermophilic archaea. The beauty of this process is that the oxidized form of gold provided to the microbes, Au(III), is soluble, whereas its reduced form, Au(0), is insoluble. Hence, the microbes respire soluble gold and precipitate it as gold nanoparticles on their outer surface plus, in the case of the Gram-negative bacteria, in the periplasmic space as well. These studies provided the first experimental evidence supporting the role of microbes in the formation of gold deposits in both hydrothermal and cooler environments, thus challenging the prevailing view that gold mineralization was an abiotic process.
Since then, the list of microbes with the ability to precipitate gold has grown. One of them, the Gram-negative bacterium Cupriavidus metallidurans, is an especially abundant component of the so-called gold nugget microbiota, i.e., the bacterial biofilms associated with gold grains. Elio covered this story previously in our blog. This bacterium grows at room temperature and its mechanism for gold biomineralization is one of the best characterized. For this reason, when artist Brown asked Kashefi, both at Michigan State University, to help him design an exhibit that allowed the audience to witness the process of microbial alchemy, Kashefi regarded Cupriavidus asthe microbe of choice.
The greatest challenge was microbiological in nature. They sought a culture system that would produce gold nuggets that were big enough to be seen with the naked eye. This required growing Cupriavidus at high concentrations of gold. But gold, like many other soluble heavy metals lacking biological roles, is toxic to microbes. It traverses the outer membrane of Gram-negative bacteria and then is reductively precipitated by low-potential electron donors present in the periplasmic space, which disrupts cell envelope homeostasis and vital cellular functions. It can also cross the cytoplasmic membrane, triggering oxidative stress and inhibiting the functioning of essential enzymes in the cytoplasm. Cupriavidus detoxifies the Au(III)-complexes that accumulate in its cytoplasm by reductively precipitating them as inert gold-sulfur (Au[I]-S) nanoparticles. Nevertheless, Cupriavidus can tolerate only µM concentrations of Au(III) in solution, and as a result the gold nanoparticles it produces are microscopic. Since the planned display required visible gold nuggets, the team’s microbiologist Kashefi grew Cupriavidus in a chemostat for months, adaptively evolving it to gradually grow at higher concentrations of gold until reaching 1.5 mM, a 30-fold increase from the originally-tolerated 50 µM.
A scanning electron micrograph shows the Cupriavidus cells surrounded by a biofilm matrix with encrusted gold deposits. The deposits were then colorized with gold leaf generated with the very same gold produced by the microbes. Source.
From this undertaking grew the “The Great Work of the Metal Lover”, a display composed of a portable, bench-scale system capable of performing microbial alchemy before an audience. Within this set up, the bacteria grow ‘live’ at room temperature and anaerobically, using hydrogen gas as an electron donor and Au(III) (provided in the medium as gold chloride) as an electron acceptor. As the bacteria respire, they precipitate the soluble gold as Colloidal Gold particles, whose accumulation turns the growth medium a lovely purple. Beauty is also to be found at the bottom of the culture vessel where purple biofilms and encrusted gold grains accumulate. These biofilms and gold deposits were captured in scanning electron micrographs. For an artistic flourish, they collected gold nuggets from several chemostat cultures, then melted them together to obtain enough material for Brown to create 24K gold leaf. He then enhanced the micrographs by highlighting the gold deposits using the gold precipitated by the microbes themselves. What this scientist-artist duo achieved goes beyond the blending of art and science. This is a visual feast for the intellect and a terrific vehicle for conveying the artistry of the microbiological world to the public. Bravo!
Lethality of Roundup 'Weedkiller' Extends Beyond Plants To Humans, Study Suggests
A new report published in the journal Entropy links the active ingredient in Roundup herbicide known as glyphosate with a wide range of fatal diseases.[i]
Glyphosate is the world's most popular herbicide and is designed to kill all but genetically modified "Roundup Ready" plants, such as Genetically-Modified corn, soy, beet, cottonseed and canola. Over 180 million pounds of the chemical are now applied to US soils each year,[ii] and while agrichemical manufacturers and government regulators have considered it 'relatively safe,' an expanding body of biomedical research indicates that it may cause over 30 distinct adverse health effects in exposed populations at far lower concentrations than used in agricultural applications.
The new report, authored by Stephanie Seneff, a research scientist at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology, and Anthony Samsel, a retired Science consultant from Arthur D. Little, Inc., brings to the forefront concerns voiced by an outspoken minority that Roundup and related glyphosate herbicide formulations are contributing to diseases as far-ranging as inflammatory bowel disease, anorexia, cystic fibrosis, cancer, Alzheimer's and Parkinson's disease, and infertility. In fact, the authors propose that glyphosate, contrary to being essentially nontoxic, "...may be the most biologically disruptive chemical in our environment."
Now that you mention ROUNDUP, I have a question. While doing some spring cleaning I found there ar...
Now that you mention ROUNDUP, I have a question. While doing some spring cleaning I found there are several bottles of partially used Roundup in my garage!
Jim did the yardstuff and apparently used the Roundup, I thought it was gone a long time ago... Jim passed away over a year ago from cancer, who knows if Roundup didn't contribute to his illness?
Sooo now does anybody know what do you do with leftover crap Roundup???? I'm afraid to touch it! Is it best to leave it in the corner or take it somewhere? Then what do they do with it? Is there any way to neutralize it?