Hi i am 17 and have become really ill in the last year.
Parasites (not sure which) --> 3 courses of anti-protozoan and antibiotic drugs --> c diff. --> vancomycin --> constant distention and stomach swells after bowelmovements, stomach gurgling --> nystatin for 45 days (no relief) --> CDSA from Genova shows no bifido or e.coli but overgrowth of C. Freundii and E. Cloacae.
Now here i am on massive doses of VSL, Bifoviden, Lactoflam, L-glutamine, Gastromend HP. And just added Nystatin again.
Whenever i drink water the water sits VERY heavily in my stomach, its such a strange feeling, my stomach enlarges and the heaviness doesn't subside for about an hour. Drinking the water can even cause my stomach to bubble and upset it enough to cause flatulence.
Any ideas what this is? its been going on for a few months now but seems to be getting worse.
*Judging by where i am now and how long it has been, i may end up on antibiotics to control these pathogens if the probiotics dont work. Then im screwed if i get c diff. again i think i'd likely kill myself if i go back to that place of 30 bm a day with blood. And also possibly fecal stool transplant. Lastly stem cells.
It could be H. Pylori, which can cause delayed emptying of the stomach contents. The stretching from the water can cause the stomach to release gastrin which causes the colon to contract, then releasing whatever gas might be there. That's the only explanation I can think of.
I have had the feeling that water felt heavy on my stomach. The underlying cause of my digestive problems was/is gluten sensitivity. When I eat gluten foods it causes an autoimmune reaction in the small intestine. The inflammation and swelling slows down the partly digested food going thru that area so that when I ate or drank water it would stay in my stomach until the intestine cleared out and allowed it to pass on. I also had several intestinal parasites clogging the small intestine and some food allergies and Gallstones causing more congestion.
For many years I did not know I was sensitive to gluten in wheat, barley and rye but I did find that programs to improve digestive health were very helpful. See the Liver Flush Support Forum for some of these programs. You will need to rule out gluten sensitivity (Celiac Disease)and learn to avoid foods that may be causing reactions in your gut.
I appreciate your comments and advice. However my problems have not been so simple. I haven't had gluten in over a year. Regardless of what i eat i have problems, (green juice = gas and diarrhea). 1/2 free range chicken breast = diarrhea. Though the diarrhea is almost always the 2nd meal of the day. The first meal is alright and i have a normal bovement every morning, but regardless of what i eat as my 2nd meal 2 or 3 hours later, it gets rough.
I was thought to have parasites but used a lot of parasite drugs and can no longer find charcot leyden crystals or evidence of parasites in rectal swabs, genova tests, and stool tests in nyc.
The digestive troubles i think can be chalked up to the severe dysbiosis.
I am just wondering about why water acts similarly, maybe it is just because of all the irritation from the dysbiosis.
The time of most relief is the time that is farthest from food. Generally 3 hours after a meal.
I believe i noticed a small amount of relief from adding in Gastromend HP.
Also after a meal when my i can hear liquid squirting and my gut becoming unstable, the natural reaction is to stress and that usually worsens the process. So i have begun relaxing, focusing my thoughts on something else and using deep breaths to see if this helps and it seems to help stop post-meal gas from turning into post-meal diarrhea.
Forgive me for asking a rather simplistic question, I'm not trying to be clever here...
Have you checked your levels of stomach acid?
Associated things would be checking zinc levels and taking liver bitters with meals. ..and, as has already been mentioned, H-pylori..
It might also be worth trying to eat fermented sauerkraut with your meals (if you're not sensitive to fermented foods or lactic acid), or fermented beets, with Celery etc. (rich in sodium and betaine).
I'm not proposing any of the above as a 'cure' just something to consider along the way.
I'm wondering if there is some putrefaction occurring with the contents of the first meal.
I'm also wondering if there is something awry with the function of the pyloric sphincter (might be in the form of not being signaled correctly by sufficient chyme acidity, for example).
I do appreciate a different perspective on my gut issues. I haven't checked stomach acid recently, a few years ago during a ph probe my stomach acid was considered normal.
My CDSA shows a low-normal amount of total putrefactive SCFA despite my high meat consumption (free range chicken, grass fed beef..I've limited both now, more so the beef).
I've used Saurkreaut (fermented and unpasteurized) for a few weeks without any noticeable change, its a hassle to get which is why i don't always use it consistently.
And i dont mean to shoot down your analysis, but as far as i can see the CDSA showing no growth of bifido strains or E.coli, great growth of lactobacillus max test range overgrowth for pathogens C. Freundii and E. Cloacae theoretically seems to justify all my symptoms. Again the one that i am not sure about is why water does this to me.
Before all of this i was training 6 days a week, my boodwork during that time showed normal testosterone and high free T. High mercury (on a scale of 1-15) it was 15.8, My hemoglobin and hematocrit i believe were very high just showing how intense the aerobic exercise was (boxing). I felt amazing and was the most muscular and healthy i'd ever been, and was preparing to have my 1st fight. (i never used any steroids or artificial workout supplements).
At the end of the summer i got sick, it started in september. I think the amount of training suppressed my immune system and lead me susceptible to some parasite.
Anyway thats the before.
The recent is, my total testosterone on the last blood test which was sent to a precise lab in california is 1/6 what it used to be, my t3 was low and t4 low-normal. My progesterone was low, my cortisol was low (my naturopathic doc said i had adrenal fatigue in late stages). So i had 0 sex drive, very tired, low blood sugar, muscle weakness, and a strange depression gloom. I stopped working out, ate lots of nourishing foods, green juices and grass fed meat until the adrenal symptoms lessened then went back to light workouts.
Now i am still experiencing the symptoms of low testosterone but to a lesser degree, i find it much harder to keep muscle on, i'm still very lean (probably below 10%) but i am holding water around my stomach (not usual for me, but this was much more noticeable when the adrenal fatigue was roaring). My skin hair and nails are perfect, my weight is steady, my energy is not bad, it really is sapped immediately after diarrhea.
No other infections, i believe the origin of my problems is the stomach dysbiosis, inflammation sprang from that, adrenal fatigue sprang from that and the abuse i put my body through in the boxing gym. Its odd that throughout these 10 months, i've had no infection, no cold, and my family has had several including a stomach virus that i never got.
Sorry my comments weren't very helpful. You have noticed a pattern to the diarrhea so it may help you to write down everything you do and eat starting from the time your get up until the diarrhea occurs. If you drank water or bathed consider chlorine sensitivity and pollutants in water. Putting in a water filter may help. Eliminate the foods you ate then after a while add them back one by one.
There have been several people on the various Parasite Forums who I think have similar problems, two of them mentioned Charcot Leyden Crystals. Compare problems with Shroom.
Protozoan parasites and yeasts are protected by biofilm. Sometimes the biofilm needs to be digested away so that the organisms respond to treatment.
Both Dr. Bob Schultze and Hulda Clark may have some programs for intestinal problems that may be helpful.
"Whenever i drink water the water sits VERY heavily in my stomach, its such a strange feeling, my stomach enlarges and the heaviness doesn't subside for about an hour. Drinking the water can even cause my stomach to bubble and upset it enough to cause flatulence."
I love the responses thus far - all good ones.
I hated drinking water for MANY, many years for that very reason. Then I went to an open house event and listened to someone talking about Kangen Water - ionized, alkaline, super hydrating water. I drank close to a GALLON of water during the meeting! I was amazed! For someone who had struggled to get down one glass of water a day; who felt nauseous, bloated, and even vomited the water, I could not believe that I could get down a gallon of water in only 2 hours.
They explained that water as we know it is not water anymore. (Just like our food is not food anymore. It's so far removed from the real thing). Our water isn't even MOLECULARLY the same - it has become so bastardized. The water we drink doesn't even 'fit' our cells anymore; it glosses over our cells and sits in our stomach. When the Kangen Water Ionizer RESTRUCTURES the water molecules to the original, proper structure, it enters the cells, hydrating our bodies LIKE NEVER BEFORE, and guess what? No more bloat. It also has the highest level of antioxidants of any food or drink.
Yes, I love my machine and can't be without it.
BTW - you're SEVENTEEN??!! Wow. I hope you're planning to go to Med School!
Have you ever tried doing a Candida cleanse? If you have candida in your system while treating parasites or anything else, antibiotics will send it into overdrive and make you miserable. I loathe antibiotics and usually will treat any types of infections with Bragg's ACV by taking 1-2 tbsp. of it several times throughout the day. Doesn't rest well on the stomach at first, but much better than the alternative. I struggled with candida for quite some time and couldn't eat very much without being doubled over in pain. It can affect just about every system in your body, even your eyes! I am having issues with drinking water as well, to the point of where I don't want to drink it any more. But, to me this is a sign that I may have candida growth again. One thing I do know in regards to water and digestion, is that your body can more easily digest anything you've eaten when you drink water at warmer temperatures rather than cold water.
I strongly encourage you to look up candida on the internet and cleanses that you can do. They all will differ in some ways, but usually the gist is the same. Cutting out sugars is huge, as candida feeds on sugars. This includes fruits.
If you are indeed dealing with candida, all of the antibiotics you have been taking are exacerbating your problem and will make you feel worse. It took me several years and many different medicines prescribed by my GI Specialist before I took matters into my own hands and treated myself naturally. It was then that my stomach finally started healing, and the rest of my body followed.
Best wishes to you in your recovery!!
I am in a similar condition. Don't know about candida but I was on VSL3 probiotics which didn't help much. How did you treat your condition naturally? Please let us know. Did you had ACV as I am planning to go for it? Regards.
Omg! I've tried everything from going on choline diet because I thought I had tmau to trying to eat meat again to see if that would help. God cured me ! I've prayed and prayed and he's answered my prayers. He led me to find something that finally cured my body odor. I know I smelled because of the reactions I got from people like rubbing nose, grossed out face and comments. Please try colon hydrotherapy and taking digestive enzymes with philips colon probiotics. I feel so relieved and happy ! I feel like a normal person and not like a freak. Pray! God will cure you if you just have patience and believe .
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I'm confused about coffee enemas. Some people say lay on the left side while retaining, and others say the right side....Which is best and why? I also had my gallbladder removed but feel EXTREMELY toxic and currently unable to work because of chronic fatigue and many stomach and memory problems. Also, some say to do a cleansing enema afterward to remove the toxins dumped by the liver.
I tried a 3 cup coffee enema this afternoon. I only did one and have tried before but couldn't retain for very long. This time I was successful at 15 minutes. I only did one. Soon afterward, I broke out with several rashes and swelling all over my body and turned red like a sunburn with itchings. These eventually went away. Anyone have any ideas as to what is happening and how to be more effective? Should it have been followed by a second one or a cleansing enema?
The reaction you report is not typical, normally CE's remove things like itchy/rashes and hives (but CE's do cause the liver to expel toxic bile, so it's possible some of that reassimilated).
My first thought though, was did you use organic coffee and either distilled or reverse-osmosis filtered water?
Typical tap water is LADEN with chemicals and toxins (as is some bottled water, even spring waters. Charcoal filters remove only a small percentage) - and non-organic coffee is also very toxic...and since the coffee solution heads directly to the liver, if there's any toxins (and you're already copromised) - well, that could have been the cause of the reaction you reported.
As far as a "cleansing enema afterward", whatever you use for a solution is only going to reach "inches" into the lower colon, but the liver dumps into the duodenum (a bit above the small intestines), so most any 'cleansing enema' isn't going to reach up that far. My choice is to do a "back to back CE" (insert two cups, retain/expel...then repeat). CE's are VERY effective at inducing strong peristalsis (one of the reasons they're sometimes difficult to retain), and that peristaltic action (squeezing motion of the colon) is so effective that many times people actually see gallstones/liver-stones and other liver debris in the toilet when they expel the solution. Be sure to read this to see just how effective a CE is in removing the toxins/debris it helped to expel:curezone.com/blogs/fm.asp
After you read through all the info above, if you have any more questions I'm sure someone will be quick to reply, because there's a LOT of us (I'm answering from the Natural Healing forum) that are doing daily coffee enemas (I've done them myself for several years).
Congratulations on learning to utilize a VERY effective healing & cleansing tool!
Lie on your left side and don’t try 3 cups just stay with one or two cups until you are comfortable. Then increase ii to 2 retention enemas back to back of 2 cups with a 10/15 minute retention.
Your reaction is not common but not unheard of. Usually it is due either to an allergic reaction to coffee or to too rapid detoxification. Do you have an reaction when you drink say 1 or 2 cups of coffee? If not I would guess that you are detoxifying too rapidly. You could go on a colon cleanse prior to the coffee enemas.
Please read my blog title “My challenge” link below.
Have started back trying again. I have chronic lyme and cannot detox. The pain is unbearable and trying the coffee enemas again. Here is what I'm doing: organic coffee from walmart-- 1 cup of purified water in coffee maker with 4 tablespoons of the organic coffee in a filter and then adding 3 cups room temp purified water and mixing it altogether and dividing into 2 separate enemas of 2 cups each. It's ready to use at this point without waiting.
I can always hole the first one 15 mins but usually only 5 minutes for the repeat. Any suggestions?? Also, I still am breaking out and having rashes and itches during the process and passed a really strange bloody parasite several hours afterward a couple of days ago.
How often can these be done without causing problems?? Do I need to be replacing electrolytes afterwards and maybe trace minerals?? Can this upset the flora in the digestive tract?? I'm taking triflora per doc instructions daily.
The bugs are robbing me of everything anyway and causing severe chronic fatigue. My new doc is trying to get my inflammation down before trying to kill the bugs because I've had unbelievable problems already.
I am not sure how old this thread is, but my question is can you do a Coffee-Enema if you are allergic to coffee?
The dr. that diagnosed me with Celiac said that I am, but I was never a big coffee drinker, and the few times that I did, I noticed nothing, probably because of all the other things I'd been ingesting that are toxic to my body.
I'm having some concerns about a fibroid and really do not wish to be cut open again.
Any advice is appreciated.
go to a food co-op or a health food store. Get psyllium and liquid bentonite. If you get Bentonite powder you have to shake it up w/ water in a bottle, then add the psyllium and shake it again. This is because you have to drink the psyllium quickly before it expands (it expands to ten times it's size when it's mixed with water, that is how it cleans your bowel). But Bentonite is difficult to mix with water because it doesn't mix easily, so you have to shake it up a lot first before the psyllium is added- you use about 1 teaspoon of each, give or take.
Let me warn you- nobody told me about this but I got severe herxheimer's reaction from bowel cleanse!! So start off SLOWLY, and make sure you're schedule is free because it gives you autointoxication!!!!!!!! That means you're being poisoned from inside of yourself. You will might feel drunk and get a headache.
Just keep going though... give your body what it needs- I'd suggest some chlorella. Chlorella is definitely good stuff. And eat the right types of food for your blood type.
I got my (new) psyllium from the drug store. It is the major ingredient in Metamicil as well. Bentonite is a little trickier to find but I managed to find it at a health food store. I dont always use Bentonite though.. tastes like dirt...ehehhee
It makes you feel drunk, and gives you a headache. It's pretty intense because there's so many toxins released.
It happens when the psyllium scrapes the walls of your colon, and more toxins are given off than your body is capable of handling. So you are auto-intoxicated.
When you have this reaction you will probably have a hard time going to work or doing things that require concentration because your body is so full of toxins, and it lasts many hours.
It is different for every person, but I have severe bowel problems because I've eaten a completely wrong diet my whole life so my bowel is really clogged up. So I have had very severe herxheimer's reaction.
You will find out after you start doing the bowel cleanse!!!
I can't freaking WAIT until I'm done cleansing my bowel. This is my least favorite cleanse, because it takes so long and because of the intoxication. I seriously hope that after I'm done my health will be better!!
Good luck with your cleanse.
Do try the P&B, just be aware that it isn't for everyone.
Some people, myself included, became excessively constipated using the P&B. I had to switch to Oxypowder to get things moving and cleansed.
But its one of those things you have to try yourself to figure out. Do pay attention to your body and how it reacts.
Doing a alternate treatment for skin cancer. No doubt it is systemic so treating it as such. Made great progress using cansema , Essiac tea and a mostly veg diet but when I get backed up and severe here reaction I have to back off and let everything clear my system before I proceed. Very important to know how to pace yourself. When you get discouraged and depressed realize these thoughts are coming from poisons releasing. When you take a break and have time to heal the sunshine comes again I've had to back off some of my friends during this as they shake my faith which is a must have. Anyway never did do well on betonite, going to try Oxypowder . coffee enemas help. If they make you sick drunk lots peppermint yes after. Washes bile out of intestinal tract.
I have read that Bentonite clay will move the mercury around the body and drive it deeper into cells if you have Amalgam fillings? I know it's best to remove them, I have 2 small ones, but I want to start the P&B cleanse now.
I've never heard that before and would be very interested to know where you read it. Because Bentonite works mechanically rather than chemically I don't know how it could drive anything deeper into the cells. In fact, Bentonite is used in some mercury/heavy metal detox protocols...both internally and externally in the form of baths. I still have a couple of Amalgams and know of many others with Amalgams who have used p&b with good results and numerous improvements in their health. Give it a go...
I have a lot of mercury poisoning toxicity symptoms and still have 5 Mercury Amalgams fillings in my mouth. I read your old post and hope you could please share whatever happened to you if you used Bentonite clay while you still had them? Did it help you?
Good Morning, I never joined this forum but purchased many items based on messages that I found online via a google search. I had great success with the candida and fungus fighters along with zinc and a good prebiotic/probiotic. The problem is that if I skipped it one day, the odor issue returned with a vengeance. I also have a prescription for Linzess since I suffer with chronic constipation. I had fecal body odor and leaky gas. I also had very bad smelling menstrual cycles. MY LIFE HAS CHANGED. I had a colonic done (colon hyrotherapy) and I swear that I believe I passed at least 50 chunks of poop. So far I've had it done twice but the second time hardly anything came out. Anyway, I've only had a smell twice since getting the colonic and the smell went away after having a bowel movement. I still suffer with constipation (I take iron for anemia) but it even changed my menstrual odor. I also had very strong urine, I do take Nitrofurantoin 50 mg daily for that, but it helped with that smell along with helping with urine leakage. PLEASE TRY A COLONIC. It has trumped every pill or item I've ever purchased. I've tried everything from baking soda to body mints.
Definitely I think the smell is coming from my intestines too. I think its called leaky gut. I found out that eating beef makes me constipated. And at the same time you need to drink lots of water. The longer the stool sits in your gut the more toxins you are absorbing. So you want to have bowel movements everyday. The more the better.