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Over the course of a week I madeout, cuddled and slept next to a girl who I recently found out has HIV. The health clinic told me I have nothing to worry about because it's low risk, however after researching more I still think I am infected. It's been 5 days since the first encounter.
I have ulcers and had them when I was with her one of the nights. It was on the inside of my lower lip. None of her lips were bleeding but they were very dry. Her tongue is white. The only other thing is she looks really baggy around the eyes, and she has stomach problems.
We slept close and we're breathing face to face and kissing all night.
Honestly, i'm scared and the health clinic won't provide the PEP. If I even need it. My lymph nodes are swolen but that could be attributed to the cigarettes i smoke. I've also lost a lot of weight and it won't come back on. Usually im chubby.
My mindset here is a bit fondled hopefully you guys can all tell. I have OCD and anxiety flares. I don't want to live my life on antivirals and I feel like I made a huge mistake.
Could anybody either ease my mind or give me a natural prevention I can take or do? I'm into health and use oregano oil for herpes.
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I used to be a healthy guy but for the last three months I had some weird tongue issues. The persistent symptoms are:
irritated taste buds in the tip of the tongue
teeth marks in the tongue's border
before you ask, I am not diabetic and I have not had any long dose of antibiotics to think the Candida Overgrowth has been caused by that. however, i have been extremely stressed for the last months, have ate tons of chocolates, use lots of mouthwashes and had 5 pills of an antibiotic a week before the oral swab test revealed candida.
searching on the Web, candida overgrown is linked to HIV, which is what scares me. I had a sexua| encounter of "low risk" (received a fellatio for a few minutes, then had protected intercourse) 4 months prior to onset of symptoms. I have had three HIV Elisa (4th generation) at 5 weeks, 9 weeks and more than 4 months post this incident, among other tests (syphilis, gonhorrea, chlamydia - all negative). I have repeated the (HIV) test last week (more than 7 months) to be extra sure. Waiting for the results.
At 4 months post incident an oral swab on my tongue revealed moderated to severe Candida Albicans. I have had an oral swab also last week (more than 7 months post incident) which came back positive for three species of bacteria. no candida test was done on my tongue, but instead the doctor tested candida on my stool (waiting for results).
can you please tell me what's wrong with me? have you had two or more of the symptoms I list here? does anyone here had/has this problem without taking too much antibiotics (which seems the most common cause)?
When you say "I had the same thing until just a week ago" you mean you had the same four symtpoms as me? some of them? did your symptoms came one day out of the blue (no long antibiotics, no diabetes, etc.?)
So sorry you are dealing with difficulties. My heart reaches out to you. It's very bewildering topic to dive into and it still overwhelms me 16 months into learning about candida myself. Hang in there.....one day at a time.
I'm NO expert, just another sufferer so please take what you will and leave the rest. I just say replies about oral thrush and thought a little more insight might help you along.
Yes, candida is fairly common with HIV, this seems to be due to the abx's involved with HIV treatment, as much as the lowering of the body's immune function but, it's probably a combo of both. With that said, candida is also a factor with any long term abx treatment/illness such as TB, Lymes etc...
What's more common is it's almost impossible not to have a compromised immune system with candida. Candida isn't a stand alone situation but, I embrace it as more of a symptom of other issues. It's a long seemingly endless list however, things like adrenal fatigue/hypothyroid are typical from what I've found since they regulate so many body systems including immune response, to body pH, to liver issues, etc....Most are addressed to some degree with similar diet treatments along the lines of a candida protocol, which isn't just diet but, supplements, probiotics, etc.. It's not an inexpensive syndrome to treat so making a plan for the financial outlay can help reduce potential future stress....
You said you were very stressed for the past few months which could very well have taken a toll on your pathways; endocrine systems and what have you. They are all interconnected. Rarely, is candida present without something like a compromised immune system since it causes this through leaky gut. As it turns fungal it bores through the intestinal walls to enter the blood stream. These large holes are referred to as leaky gut and allow large molecule food particles to enter the blood stream which the body doesn't recognize as food but, rather mounts an immune response to invaders - which it most likely is already doing trying to deal with mycosis (fungus in the blood from leaking through into the blood stream). As bad as this all sounds, it's rather common and people do recover.
Yes, your sweet tooth probably played a role but, give yourself a break, many people eat chocolate for the "feel good" effect, particularly when stressed. The stress could have been enough on already weakened systems to throw your body further out of balance allowing candida to flourish. Beating yourself up or anyone else for that matter isn't gong to do you much good, and perhaps do you harm. Forgive and let go....
The worry from all the std tests could have put additional stress on your system, only making matters worse. Who knows? I don't.....I'd also gather there's nutritional deficiencies in play as well since they go hand in had with candida: from anemia to low salts, iodine, etc....
There are comprehensive candida protocols out there to help you navigate through your journey. IMHO everyone who has candida has been had issues leading up to this condition for a long time prior to noticing something was wrong: in hindsight I was sick for at least a decade perhaps two prior to discovering candida. As hard as this is to state, let alone receive, you are on a journey now...you didn't get here over night and probably won't get out of it over night either. It's going to take some time and effort. (I keep telling myself these same things, as I struggle with this all day everyday so, you are NOT alone, as lonely as this all feels).
There are many good forums here covering in depth interconnecting issues: adrenal fatigue/hypothyroid, iodine, body pH, oil pulling, liver flushes, enemas, etc.(a long list)...Some are extremely complicated subjects so, it's going to take time to gradually grasp things - this isn't a 10 yard dash, it's a marathon so go easy on yourself and keep at it. There is hope and one day, we all will be able to share chocolate again along with you - hopefully. The primary treatment is going to involve diet, probiotics, supplements, etc....
I've got most of my results and to my surprise, my doctor tested for yeast (oral swab) and it came back negative. I probably will repeat the test because my tongue is still white and the result might be a false negative.
In the other hand, some other bacteries were found in my tongue (wonder if those can cause this persistent problems for more than 3 months?). This is the summary of the tests I've done last week (more are on the way) more than 7 months since the sexua| incident:
Because I lost weight because a mild candida diet I started about two months ago (cooking with coconut oil, no breads, etc.) and because I didn't see much improvement, I have started to eat normally since about 3 weeks ago. I don't know if it's a good idea.
I will try the garlic pills as someone adviced (Thanks!) and will continue using acidophilus pills.
Thanks a lot @candisufferer for your very informative post!
That coating on your tongue and the toothmarks indicate dampness in your digestive system.
You can try the garlic, but don't take garlic for too long because it is a drug-type medicine and will weaken your body if you take it for too long. (there are research studies showing it boosting testosterone with short-term use, but lowering it with long-term use).
Your best bet is to address your diet. Below are a few recommendations, if you need more info, feel free to PM me.
You should cook your food with plenty of fresh ginger. This will help your digestion. It is best to avoid too much of the sweet flavor, so limit the breads and any concentrated sweetners.
Asparagus is mildly diuretic and will help to eliminate some of the accumulated water (which is evidenced by the toothmarks). Alternately, you can boil up some corn silk and either drink it as a tea or use it as the base of a soup if you feel like you need something more powerful.
I had the same problem- white on tongue. Doc first had a test for thrush which came back negative. Then took a tongue scraping and turned out it's my digestive juices. From there it turns out I have acid reflux. That was seven years ago and although I am very diligent and healthy it has not gone away. It does not really bother me any more, I flick it off with my toothbrush morning and night and that's that. Hope this helps
I'm thinking you might have a vitamin B-2 deficiency, especially if you're taking any of the B-vitamins alone, without being in complex form. Here is a list of the B-vitamins and their deficiency symptoms:
I had bad reflux that made me think I had sore throats all the time. The solution was simply to slant my bed. I made 6 inch pieces of wood that I put under the head end of the bed frame. Simple old gravity kept the stomach acids from coming up to my throat. No more reflux at night.
Try it and see if your white tongue goes away because you won't be getting stomach acids up to your tongue at night. or even sleep in a recliner chair that keeps you fairly vertical.
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I have been searching for genuine website to purchase some of Dr Clark's books and products (like Zapper and herbal supplements) but I found out that there are just too many similar looking websites (with Hulda Clark attached), so I thought that some might actually be fake and fraudulent.
So Please can someone recommend a real Dr Clark's website where one can purchase her products on-line genuinely?
All are fake in that Dr. Clark passed away a number of years ago. Most of the zappers do at least follow her basic recommendations.
The truth is that there has been a number of improvements made over the original Hulda Clark Zapper which was designed almost 25 years ago.
There are improvements in accuracy, frequencies available, and even in newer, more advanced versions of the 555 timer that she used.
The sad thing is that very few of the zapper sellers actually do any research to determine the actual effectiveness of the products that they sell. On top of that, it is illegal in the US to make health claims about any zapper as they are definitely not FDA approved devices.
When shopping for a zapper, look at the features of each one and what they can actually do.
#1, do they actually kill microbes such as bacteria, protozoa, fungi, etc. If they can not kill microbes in water, how are they going to work anywhere else?
#2, do they offer accurate frequencies which insures that the zapper you get is the same as each other customer gets.
#3, make sure that the zapper is battery operated for 2 reasons. Dr. Clark stated that only battery operation was effective and attaching to the wall might not be so safe. Do not end up being a statistic.
Get a money back guarantee and a good long parts and labor warranty. Also, search the internet for complaints about any vendor or product.
Be wary of hype and glowing testimonials. Health testimonials are not legal in many places so you may be getting something that is not of good quality or may be from a third world country.
I have experience some black and bloody stool in the last weeks , with other symptom. but yeasterday I got small raw meat in the stool and I am sure i did not eat any raw meat and grap them I took photos for them they are like exactly like meat. The photos are attached.
before around a week i got like seamsem seed in the stool as well.
These are pieces of flatworms (maybe flukes). I am not sure but very likely. If you pour hot water on it and it does not dissolve, it is a worm. Bloody stools can be a sign of many things. The red colour of these pieces could point to a blood sucking worm, but you could have hoowkworms or other pathogens. The sesame seeds can be roundworms (i have had those for months, many many, they were cysts) and in a more rare case, Tapeworm (those look more like long grain rice).
I had something very similar. Here is a photo. photo_72.jpg (ID = 87971)
I've never been able to identify it. It was one of about 6-8 parasites that I had.
I got rid of them using an herbal formula, DE and other supplements.
I wrote a blog about my journey along with my protocol. You can find it in Blogs, New Blogs, #4190, Getting the Parasites Out. Scroll to the very first post on the first page to find the protocol.
It is very likely that you have other parasites. Keep cleansing.
So there is something wrong with the process for posting pics. I have done it numerous times and now it doesn't work??
They can come at any stage. It might be possible you have had them beforehand and they spread or multiply more once your immune system is compromised for any reason. You really need to get rid of them because they are very dangerous to have once they get out of control. Usually once you have them you easily get other types too. Not sure how much help you would get from a doctor but inform them. You can try to take an elisa bloodtest for fasciolasis if they dont believe your pictures. If you test positive, at least they might refer you to someone who might know a bit more. Good luck.
I told the doctor a bout it , he said maybe pepper !!! doctor I did not eat any !! he said your stomach may change the things to diffrent form and shape and color !!! I start cleansing by my own. The doctor make appointment for me to do ultrasound to check the kidney due to the blood in urine, therefore, he said if there is anything it will be show up in the ultrasound
Ive been trying to eradicate this virus (hsv2) now for over a year and wont let up till its gone.
I have done the beck protocol off and on for about 6 months,...never the full protocol for over a month however,...I lose interest when I cant see results in days or weeks,..so I cant say it doesnt work,..just that if it does work it may only for those with a mild case that have no symptoms...I do however take Colloidal Silver and ozonated water daily as it gives me energy and makes me feel great.
I also take high potency multi vitamins,olive leaf extract,selenium,zinc,cats claw,colon cleansers,fish oils, double,pro-biotics.
I also wear a terminatorII zapper to sleep about 3 times a week and have worn it 24/7 for a month in the past with slight improvement but reached a plateu(sp?)
Ive also done the h202 therapy drinking 3 glasses of 25 drops of 35% h2020 a day for 2 months...it helped alot but I noticed it lowered my body temperature and became unbarably nasty...
I also took 30-50,000 mg. of sodium ascorbate(vitamin c) for a month and it seemed to work in the first 2 weeks but resulted in making my body very acidic over time and gave me a bad rash almost everywhere,....even though I used sodium ascorbate which is supposed to be alkalized vit.c it made me terribly acidic,...I cant explain why this happend but strongly discourage anyone using over 2 grams daily with hsv.
I have been investigating BHT and have been reading that alot of people have tested hsv anti-body neg. after a year or 2 from taking it....
I have been taking it now for a 2 weeks and notice, this shit does work!
I started taking 700mg.(2 capsules) with fish oils with breakfast for 3 days to get used to it,...then added another 700mg. with fish oils after dinner for another 5 days and noticed an increase in effectiveness.....
I now take 700mg. doses twice a day but disolve the bht in coconut oil and drink it or dip bread in it and eat it,..and have also added hypericin(st.john's wort)which is said to increase its effectiveness and be synergestic(delano report)
After all the research ive concluded that all the tests and rumors of bht being a carcinogen or tumor promoting are BS and another big pharma scare tactic. and that if anything do the complete opposite...
its advised even by doctors that divided doses under 2 grams a day are safe and wont cause harm to your liver even though it raises your liver enzymes slightly...and anything over that will cause dizziness and temporary vertigo.
one thing to remember is that bht is best taken with fatty oils or high fat diet to work well,olive oil,fish oil,coconut oil,etc.
I got my bht from http://www.vrp.com
(vitamin research products) and they sell the capsules and powder form for those that want to disolve it in oils,...they also have organic cocnut oil too.
it was also also said to help alot with hiv and hep a and b.
yeah Ive been doing that as well johny,...I sometimes sit on my paddle for 5 minutes and move it around,....also on another note,...Dr’s say that no medicine is able to penetrate the nerve ganglion,...but this hasnt been the case with people that have used bht with hypericin,....they are being tested antibody negative in 1-2 years as well as dr’s not being able to find any trace of the virus at all....I believe this is happening for a couple of reasons. ... one possibly because bht thins out your blood as a side effect and increases micro circulation,...and another is that hypericin is known ... [This message is long. Retrieve the whole message]
Sounds like you've been going through hell. Sorry.
I just had my first outbreak (downtown anyway) two weeks ago. I've purchased several products: Never An Outbreak", Biogetica, Colloidal Silver (not ionic) and I am doing some peroxide baths. One so far. Maybe every other day to see how it goes. Since you sound like you tried almost everything may I ask, am I being too optimistic to think I can beat this thing using those products? Have you tried Never An Outbreak or Biogetica? I have a lot of faith in both of those. The silver I'm still trying to figure out what I need to do. The peroxide baths are for the heck of it. My situation appears to be mild.
never an outbreak was the worst thing I ever tried,....the dmso caused the virus to leave the lower spine and travel to all parts of the body,....I got a rash everywhere!.....maybe there was something I was supposed to do while it was traveling but after I got a rash I discontinued it altogether...
also I rubbed dmso on my ankles one time and it gave me a breakout in the same area in 3 days,....for the most part,..using dmso was a bad experience for me....
Yikes! Could you have had a "healing crisis"? Causing the virus to run for it's life?
Good lord, that's depressing to hear. I was putting a lot of faith in this protocol I'm on. I hope I can beat this. So no experience with Biogetica then? I've been reading alot of good stuff about both of these products.
yes!,..I believe that is exactly what the virus did,...packed up and got the hell outta there!
this is a good thing as with any protocol,..if the viruses feels threatened for its survival it will cause it to travel to the surface of the skin to infect someone else or replicate,...just another means the virus uses to stay alive.
I havent had any experience with biogetica,...could you elaborate what its about?
this virus will get weak over time as I am winning the battle slowly,...one thing i can say is that its better to hit it from different angles rather than using only one source of treatment.
Biogetica is homeopathic therapy. They are using Nosodes (sp?). I don't know much about homeopathic medicine but the idea is they basically vaccinate you against the virus by using an energy field that mimics the energy field of the weakened virus. I guess. At any rate, 110 Percent money back guarantee if not completely satisfied. Read lot's of good stuff too.
I think you should have given Never an outbreak some more time. Did you buy the complete package with the book? It warns against the healing crisis's. I mean if you were having one the stuff was working right? Not to mention that the BOL stuff is good for you health in general. I'm definitely feeling waaay more energetic since using it. I'll keep using the stuff forever. Or at least until I die, whichever comes first.
looks like suppresive therapy to me,...im not a big believer in homeopathic medicine,...or things that claim to train the immune system how to fight,...the problem isnt that our immune systems cant fight the viruses,...its that the viruses know how to hide from the immune system and have a lipid coat to protect them from being killed,...when you find a substance that melts this fatty coating,..or deactivates its membrane,..thats when your able to actually kill it,...otherwise its like there wearing bullet proof vests.
And as far as ''never an outbreak'' its another form of supressive therapy,....ive taken all their products and they gave me energy,...but its nothing a glass of water and 25 drops of peroxide couldnt do as well.
fighting viral infections is a 24/7 job,....they can replicate back to their original population in 4 hours.
All I know is that it gave me a rash from head to toe when I applied it on my lower back,...and it took me almost a month to get my skin back to being 100% clear again....and when I rubbed some dmso on my ankles my vision went very blurry for 30 minutes and it felt like I was going blind so I ran for the shower to wash it off quickly,..3 days later I get a painfull blister type breakout on my ankle..I never had a good experience using that stuff and wont touch it again...the most effective treatments would have to be ozone,rife,beck protocol and bht imo.
All I can say is good lord! If I go through half of what you are going through I... I don't know. Beck protocol and Bht. I'm going to have to look into this.
Okay help me out here. Anyone.
Here's the strange thing with me; I used to get outbreaks on my mouth but have had some great luck using lysine to keep them at bay. Going on six years and I've had two minor outbreaks. Could I have manifested a genital outbreak on myself by thinking about it since I already had the virus in my body? I had been almost four months without sex and was thinking about genital herpes because I was talking with a girl that once told me she had it. I had absolutely never had an outbreak downtown then all of a sudden Ta Da! I was like "Don't I have to be having sex in order to be getting STD's?!
stds are not diseases limited to sex.. they are simply high infectios diseases that happen to choose sex as their ideal tranmission path.. but you can get all these diseases by contact.. and of any part.
i konw someone who got crabs of the eyes..
its all possible..
and its up to everyoen to kill these things and make them history..
and thanks to sites like this and everyones generous contributions
we still have a long way to go, but atleast we have a path to follow..
bht, rife and beck protocal.. i think sounds like a good idea..
becks as i understand it will kill all the stuff in yoru blood and lymph glands and spine where it grows, bht will help your own body recognize teh virust and defeat it way fster, .. not sure what rife does ..
anyways its time to kill this , not just supress it..
Ive have been playing with different dosages and different ways of taking bht....
what ive concluded is that bht is hardly effective without hypericin.
I stopped taking the st. johns wart for a week and it seemed like the bht was helping a little but not enough to really get excited about...
I then started back up with 2 capsules daily of st. johns wart(600mg) and on the 2nd day it really kicked back into action.....ive been taking between 1200-1800mg. of bht daily,...I put about 2-3 tablespoons of olive oil in a coffee mug,...warm it in the microwave for 40-50 seconds and then add my 600mg of bht...
it dissolves within 10-20 seconds and then I drink it...
its like night and day,...I cannot stress how effective bht is combined with hypericin...
and to enhance those effects I have now added 1000mg. of vitamin c and some digestive enzymes.
I think this cocktail is the most effective way to eradicate this bug,...I cant believe the progress ive made in the last couple weeks alone.
what I envision im doing is stripping away the viruses lipid coat with bht and disabling the membrane with hypericin to halt replication,...and enhancing my immune system with vitamin c to produce more NK cells to seek out and destroy the naked viruses and the enzymes allow the stomach to break down and utilize the bht more effectively.
ive also had to drink close to a gallon of water a day to flush all the die off out of my system,....just remember if your skin starts to take on a pinkish hue,..its working and you need more water.
I have alot of faith with this protocol,...as its been nothing but hopelessness for the last year for me trying other methods...I encourage everyone with hsv to try this,..trust me you will be amazed.
I am starting to notice that my skin is getting real oily and I have had some small rashes,pimples come and go....
it seems as though all the bht/olive oil that ive been taking is starting to surface to the skin...
And at the same time it is causing whatever is hiding beneath the skin(virus) to ''rise to the surface''.
everywhere on my body where ive had a rash or a breakout seems to be surfacing or getting evicted from beneath the skin.
I would imagine taking bht/fatty oil and going into a sauna would enhance this further.
ill be trying that this weekend..
so to sum it up,..dont expect to see much of an improvement with taking bht at least for 3-4 weeks,..and consume lots of fatty oils with it,..ive been taking olive oil with bht dissolved in it but im also taking fish oils as well(omega's)
I'm curious how you came up with this protocol. I heard about BHT years ago, but don't think I did it consistently enough and no oils. I used to take Asyclovir..took it for years and eventually it caused my Ulcerative Colitis to become unmanageable. Now I can't use it...very depressed with major outbreak.
I was doing research about the "Biogetica Herpes Kit" when I found your post. I'm so skeptical about all this stuff. I tried the Beck thing years ago with no notable results.
well I really didnt come up with the protocol,..I just took what steven fowkes(co author of ''wipe out herpes with bht'') suggested and added some other things to increase effectivness....I have lately added 8 oz. of Colloidal Silver daily and noticed even better results.
when you strip away the lipid coat from the virus as bht does,..its up to the immune system to notice the virus and destroy it,...however some of us may have a lazy immune system due to inactivity or lack of nutrients.
thats where Colloidal Silver comes in,...its known as the second immune system and deactivates the virus instantly and can also enter cells where the virus is hiding out.
im taking 2 grams of bht daily in 2 doses and have no ill effects whatsoever,...I may try 3 grams to see if it works better,..but 2 grams seems to be doing good.
1 gram worked but on days where I had little sleep,stress or ate trigger foods it seemed like the virus was able to overpower.
I think 1 gram daily may be sufficient for anyone under 175lbs.
I'm using a DMSO now. At the beginning was amased by the speed it stopped an outbreak. But now same as you rushes appear everywhere uncontrollably. What didi you do after giving up DMSO and how did it help. Thank you
I have had quite a few experiences with DMSO and I can tell you that the rash is caused by using too strong a DMSO solution. Below waist you can use more than 50% diluted with distilled water. I also dilute mine with pure Aloe Vera gel. Above waist.. Less than 50% and closer to face I use no more than 30 %. You can also use as eye drop.. 3 to 5% diluted in distilled water.
I stepped on a large hot burning coal last year and it literally stuck to bottom of my foot. I used a stick to knock it off my foot and was in excruciating pain. I hopped back to the house and poured the 99% DMSO in bottom of wash basin and stuck my foot in it. After 20 minutes the pain started to subside but I left my foot in for a good 30-45 minutes and pain was gone.. It never blistered at all (that was amazing). The only side effect from the DMSO I noticed was about a week or two after the skin started peeling off my foot. It wasn't painful, but somewhat like getting too much sun and peeling afterwards. I could go on and on but will sum it up by saying I consider it a staple item in my household and never want to be without it. By the way, that rash comes on like sun blisters and totally disappears in a short while. I post this because I hate to see you miss out on the enormous benefits if it.
The only thing you really have to watch is making sure your skin is clean before applying it. Also, don't use if there are strong fumes nearby. I once put DMSO on a bruise just below my elbow. I then put some nail polish on with the lid off polish bottle and my bruised area started to sting intensely. I rushed over to tap and washed the DMSO off immediately. It was a real wake up call. Also need to let it dry before covering with shirt or pants as it can leach material dyes into skin from clothes as well. if you are applying DMSO, don't take medication or vitamins at same time. Put a couple of hours between that and DMSO. There really are only a few red flags to be aware of and otherwise, it is 100% safe..
I tried BHT (2 grams daily) with SJW for nearly a year, and I never managed to get the results. Plus, BHT made me loopy as hell. I couldn't string sentences together without sounding like W, and who needs that!?
You seem more willing to try BHT at high dosages. If you want a less expensive place to get BHT, try
I know one thing is that for bht to really work well I have to warm up oil in the microwave for a minute then pour a gram into it to disolve...otherwise taking capsules doesnt have the same effect...
and lately ive noticed that the more oil I mix in with it the better it works...
I started with about a tablespoon or two of olive oil,...now im getting better results using about an ounce of flax seed oil with a gram of bht twice a day.
I know its working because the cluster rash that ive had on my tricep area is going away and is 85% gone,...and nothing ive done has been able to do this since ive contracted this bug.
no telling if its gonna cure me or not,.but ill give it a shot for awhile...
I think you have made a compelling argument for dissolving the BHT into an oil. I do remember that BHT takes a long time to dissolve when the oil isn't hot (but it does dissolve eventually). I never tried dissolving BHT into hot oil. But it follows that absorption would be enhanced were the BHT dissolved when ingested. Theoretically, one could heat enough oil add the right amount of BHT so that one wouldn't need to make the cocktail everytime a dose was administered. I do believe that the BHT would dissolve even without heat, but I don't know how long it would take. Also, I would need to consult a chemist to know the ratio of oil to BHT would give a, say, 1 gram dose.
well I have discontinued the use of bht because I am now geting good results from taking 8-12 grams of sodium ascorbate daily alone along with ozonated water
I take 2-3 4gram doses of sodium ascorbate daily and at night before I go to sleep I drink 24 oz of ozonated water....
I call it the kill n clean
what I noticed was that the vitamin c kills alot of the virus but for some reason its not eliminated from the body that well,...even when I drank alot of water I still had some die off floating around in the body.
taking ozonated water seemed to increase elimination and got rid of all die off symptoms,..which is why I call it a kill n clean.
I make my own because premixed sodium ascorbate tends to be mixed wrong and the sodium bicabonate settles to the bottom making the dose acidic.
I pour about 16 oz of water and mix 1 teaspoon of vitamin c powder(4grams) and a half a teaspoon of Bobs Red Mill baking soda.(aluminum free)
a general rule of thumb is for every gram of vitamin c you need 124mg. of baking soda to alkalize it according to bronson labs.
am I having better reults than the bht?,..well it seems that way so far,..kind of early to give a good opinion on that...but I feel better/healthier on vitamin c than bht,..at times I would have stomach cramps or slight vertigo on bht.
only thing is that its water based so if you miss a day or dont take it for awhile you'll feel sluggish/fatigued and your right back where you started unlike bht that seems to have a longer lasting effect.
try the two and see what works best for you is all I can suggest.
but give each one at least 2-3 weeks to really see the results.
I have stumbled across some posts written from you about the Bob Beck protocol. It seems like it have not worked so good for you? I also saw the Australian page where they sell Klemens Bob Beck zapper (pulser), did you buy it?
I am asking since I also have the Becks protocol, with little success...
didnt work at all,..didnt even put a dent in it.
but the Colloidal Silver and ozonated water do ''help''
but as far as it being a cure I dont think so,..not even close.
maybe for somebody with an extremly mild case with no symptoms whatsoever it might work
but even then I doupt it.
I havent seen or talked with ''1'' person that has had success with the beck protocol and its very upsetting that ive talked with so many people that have all the equipment and have the same results,..nada
and in the beck book with all the testimonials it has one guy in there that claims of a cure but who knows if its true or made up.
ive heard of people curing themselves with Colloidal Silver but they take alot or have high ppm's of it several times a day,...more than my machine can keep up with.
ive heard the best is high voltage AC colloidal silver as it penetrates deeper.
4 grams a day of sodium ascorbate works better than becks protocol!
But as a skeptic, I am wondering if you are allowing enough time for treatments to have its full effect. You seem to swap and change treatments quickly and the physical changes that you are feeling could rather be from other environment factors (not enough sleep, decreased General Health, stress etc)
The treatment I am looking for is for genital herpes, I was wondering what exactly you are trying to treat? herpes? shingles?
However, taking in some your advice, I'm going to take BHT with coconut oil, lysine and Colloidal Silver ... how does this plan seem to you? I plan on carrying this method out for atleast 2-3 months to see how I go
Ive mentioned this a few times but ill throw it out again...
Ive tried just about everything touted to be a herpes cure,...I took a year off of work to research and ive spent quite a bit of money.
20 grams a day of sodium ascorbate is the only thing to date reversing this hsv2.
I take 10 grams before I leave for work and 10 grams when I get home,...sometimes I throw an extra 10 grams in there if im very active that day.
I have not tried ozone treatment or a rife machine but I think they would do wonders as well...
I am VERY tuned in to my body which is why I know what works and what doesnt.
Ive tried the beck protocol and it did very little to nothing.
the Colloidal Silver did help a tiny bit but really just supressed it.
the ozonated water was also helpfull and I still take it when I feel like my lymph system needs a flush.
my mag pulser is in the basement collecting dust as well as the silver pulser...
dont take my word for it,..try it yourself and see.
I use bobs red mill baking soda which is alluminum free.
1 teaspoon of vitamin c crystals to 1/2 teaspoon of baking soda in 1 inch of water,..let fizz then add 8 oz. of water and drink.
that will give you 5 grams of sodium ascorbate ph=7-8
I went to see a natural healer a few months ago. I've been really sick. I've had an Ulcertive Colitis flare up with many complications. Mainly, severe arthritis. The arthritis had gotten so bad I could not get out of bed. I was waiting to see a Rheumatologist, but the pain had gotten so bad that a friend of mine took me to see this natural healer. Anyway, he diagnosed me with Shingles in my colon and gave me a 2 week supply of BHT. He said I could go on a maintenance dose afterwards if I wanted.
I've never heard of Shingles in the colon, and was skeptical, but desperate to try anything at this point to get relief. After 2 weeks on the BHT, I felt about 80% better. My Ulcertive Colitis (or Shingles) was improved, as well as, the arthritis. I'm a believer now!