Simple question :
Why do you believe in orgonite / orgone generators ?
Is it only a belief in your head ?
Have you seen/felt the effects of orgonite / orgone generators ? If yes, please explain with more details.
Have you managed to measure its effects objectively (i mean with a result that somebody else can see/feel) ?
Personaly i have used the terminator 2 zapper several times to relieve the pain caused by helminths (irritations, cuts), it seems to relax my body, it seems to increase my body temperature.
The relief of pain is subjective, the feeling of relaxation is subjective (or maybe it can be measured with the heart beat or the blood pressure ?), but the increase of the body temperature is objective and can be measured.
I think there is still many things to discover about this tech. I wish there was less propaganda and more serious experiments.
There is an interview on gaiam tv with regina meredith that you can watch about orgone energy. There is a small amount you have to pay to be able to see it. I don´t remember the name of the man at the moment. He talks about Willhelm Reich and the nazis trying to hide the information on orgone. I also looked at you tube after I saw your question. I think I have seen a good you tube video before, but didn´t find it now. None of them don´t really give "proof" of the existence of this energy in a scientific way perhaps, but there is a machine that can measure this energy, and has been used at sacred sites.
I never meant to put the first video in there. Don´t know what happened. I guess it doesn´t prove the weather change since weather changes all the time. Here is the video. Don´t know why they put in the dramatic music..
That's not what i am looking for, but thanks anyway. I want to know if someone has managed to use orgonite or an orgone accumulator to either saturate the human body with "bions" (if yes what are the effects ?) or to relieve pain after an intense session with an electrisation device.
Concerning your video, i don't see anything surprising here...
You can probably get the same low voltage with any antenna or coil. Keep in mind that there are electric fields, magnetic fields, electromagnetic waves everywhere around us.
If you are interested in free energy, i think you may be interested in Tesla radiant energy antenna.
Talking about the small depression in the base of the pyramid, he said:
"There is absolutely no reason..."
Actually, yes there is. Enter the Wayback Machine and come out in an 8th grade Science class. "Most things expand when heated and contract when cooled." Well, that was easy.
Injection molding was patented in 1872, and the problem of sinking showed up that afternoon. The plastic pyramid is thickest through the center of the base to the top point. As the resin cools, it contracts. The thicker areas contract more. The sink can change depending on how the object and mold are positioned with respect to gravity, but there always will be a sink if the mold design, temperature, feed rate, pressure, blah blah blah are not controlled.
Lotsa things affect the repeatability of the sink, like the amount and distribution of the metal flakes, but my guess is that the mold was oriented point-down, so the resin could simply be poured in the big open base and allowed to level itself. This is the *worst* possible case, and guarantees a sink.
There are similar, relatively simple explanations for his other claims, and none of them involve magic. Putting stuff (carbon, stainless steel, boron, etc.) into plastic resins can give them amazing properties (insert photo of Boeing 787). But *n*o*n*e* of them spontaneously create electron flow unless the addatives happen to be two reactive metals, and then we're back in the 8th grade making a battery out of a potato.
In your video you say that there is voltage but no current. That can not be. A voltage (*any* voltage) can not be measured without current flowing into the test device. In your case, the input impedance of your meter is around 10 million ohms (10 megohms). With your stated average output of 0.2 volts and Ohm's law, this works out to 0.02 microamps, or 20 nanoamps. Using Watt's Law, the power delivered by your generator is 0.004 microwatts, or 4 nanowatts. So where is this free energy coming from? From the water. How do we know this? Because the voltage reading did not increase until you added the water.
The classic "voltaic pile" of grade school Science class is a stack of nickels, pennies, and small patches of paper towel soaked in salt water. You recreated this in your video. Copper has an electrode potential of +0.34 volts. Nickel (the plating on your voltmeter probes) has an electrode potential of -0.24 volts. This does *not* mean that anything with these two metals is an instant battery of 0.58 volts; it's way more complicated than that. But you do have two dissimilar metals, each with mobile electrons, and an electrolyte (tap water has lots of ions suspended in it). That's all it takes for *any* battery. Yours isn't very big, since 4 nanowatts is less than the energy of a falling eyelash.
If it's any consolation, Alessandro Volta made the same mistake. He, also, thought his cells were an inexhaustible source of energy, and did not appreciate that the voltage was due to chemical oxidation-reduction reactions.
orgone/ormus elements have been widely studied,you just need to know where to look.
ken rohla has an excellent video 9check out utube)
regarding tests to prove it works:
buy/make some and use the frozen water test.
basically if you have made it correctly the water will make a reverse vortex ie it will have anti gravity properties,this proves you have made a good device.
Yes orgone is real and there are ways to successfully concentrate this force and gauge it. This force is nothing new and discovered many times over, the word orgone is just one word out of many given to this most basic, pure, most intelligent, creative, sustaining and destroying force. Other words given to this most pure clean force is Aether, dark energy, tachyon, Ichor, Chi, Ki, Tao, Prana, torsion field, Etc. Etc, A list of hundreds of names can be sighted by the different personality that realized and discovered it. The evidence of this force is right there in front of you for your senses and mind to play with. Nothing in created reality would exist in your minds without this beginning of the energy continuum force. Thoughts are the building block of sensed reality. Thoughts could not be built upon each other without this force. Thus nothing could be sensed without conglobated thoughts for the mind to sense, which are sensed as the reality that a thought processing consciousness exist. This force is the thoughts and also the sustaining thought solvent.
Measuring this force pertaining to devices that are stated to concentrate it: This force is measured objectively. Though no manmade instrumentation is going to come close to having the ability to measure such a pure basic force not unless it has a biological component to it. The only way as of right now to do measurements on a devices ability to concentrate this force successfully is to: use some form of living matter, preferably new born or young/immature specimens and Set up a properly prepared controlled environment conforming to the highest of scientific standards that one can achieve, Having multiple specimens separate from each other but equal environments in every single way except for the containing of a orgone device or the absence a device, then monitor in each group the growth , development and potential the specimens reach within their particular species potentiality. Fruiting plants are very good for these measurements/test. Yields, Density, length of life and production, potential(within species)/development have all been shown to improve in such experiments and measurements pertaining to orgone/orgonite devices that utilize shape/geometry to concentrate this force.
Please show us some before/after photos/videos/measures of the results of experiments which you have done with your "orgone devices".
If they are convincing enough, it would be interesting that other people try to reproduce them (i may be interested depending on which effects your devices (or rather the "orgone") has managed to produce on the plants/animals/humans)
there are others who peddle simple orgone accululators made with orgonite® as "orgone generators®." others claim that those devices convert DOR (deadly orgone energy) into orgone, which only an orgone generator® can do that emits pulsed orgone. To top off their utter ignorance, those folks claim that Reich found the technology to convert DOR into orgone, of which, in fact, he had not the slightest idea (see his info about his oranur experiment)! Of course, such ignorance is unavoidabe for persons who (1) did not study the subject matter and simply think to have a good marketing niche, and who (2) are copying from copycats (thieves) who, of course, fail to mention that I invented that which they ripped off, most of the time for reasons of marketing.
Of recent, there are devices on the market, which passively attract orgone. In fact, these devices are orgone accumulators, which some of their manufacturers falsely try to huckster as “orgone generators®” or "chi generators®" in blatant violation of trademark laws. The difference to the traditional orgone accumulator is that they have additional features such as crystals; some of them are built in the shape of pyramids, and the like. That's all, and naturally they do "foul up" easily, becoming focal points of DOR.
With the pulsating orgone generator® close to it, the DOR that emanated from the DOR generator itself began to pulsate again: it lost its stale characteristics and therefore it was immediately transformed into healthy orgone energy. Consequently, the feeling of the atmosphere surrounding the device immediately changed from depressive-sickening to uplifting-energizing. Reich was obviously correct when describing DOR as an orgone energy that has become stale and rigid. His accumulators, of course, became part of the problem rather than part of the solution. It took my invention of the orgone generator® to have an effective mean against DOR. A blob of orgonite in a pendant or an other static orgonite device are nothing more than orgone accumulators, not generators as their marketers claim.
So be careful about what others vendors are selling, their devices may attract DOR and cause harmful effects to the human body.
This is not because a device looks good that it is beneficial or efficient...
Yes very pertainant D.(I wonder how true it is, considering the deeper unconsidered implications of anyone's supposing about non 'ordinary' realities makeup, but its interesting)
Similar to the layering for orgone objectifing objects concept, is the finding by M Cotterell, again, of the effect generated by layering specific items.
Im not sure where this can be referenced, its not in his new book, and I couldnt find it with a search, but some time ago I came across M Cotterell's finding that if one would layer the (periodic table) elements in order of weight, producing a stack of layers with each "element" being a single layer, the grouping would produce voltage, (among other 'things'). (I seem to think I remember that he had done this to some degree without using the heavier radiating elements, perhaps it was only a number of the lightest elements).
It seems to me that this is similar also to certain unidentified metal objects associated with UFO recovery sites, and also 'the implant phenomenon' analyses. Where very thin layers of certain particular unusual metals are found, unlike combinations used or in their having functionaity as undertstood by modern science.
Ive thought about this over the years especialy since experimenting with the Cymatic sound producing instrument, but, never beyond consideration.
So I thought why not produce the layered composite using field vortex frequencies, associated with each of the elements, to achieve the power (or otherwise) source reported by Cotterell. Its possible that not all known elements would necessarily have to be used, to produce a (reletivly)simple, non fueled voltage or (M) source, that could of course be expanded into a generation(or other?) unit of some kind.
My post was not about if this technology works or is efficient, my point was that it is not because somebody creates a device which looks/sounds good that what they claim is true.
In the case of "orgone" and "orgone generators", i find that Karl Hans Welz is rather logical and reasonable in his explanations whereas others sellers of "orgone accumulators" (like Don Croft and Carol Croft) claim a lot of things (they rely on the magical/spiritual arguments) but provide no coherent explanation or objective proof ("only my wife can see this energy..." (how convenient))
I personally can feel "orgone" (or whatever you want to call it) it seems to increase the temperature of my body and to calm me.
However i am wary of this energy/phenomenon because if it can indeed facilitates life/vitality in organisms, then it can probably also help the harmful organisms which are in a human body (viruses, bacterias, protozoas, yeasts, fungus, parasitic worms) Is this a good idea ? I am not sure...
I have always been fascinated by astronomy, especially meteors - so i've been collecting tektite, small meteorites and most recently moldavite because I love it's colour and texture.
Upon reading a few articles on Moldavite tonight, i realized that I will soon be in posession of quite a number of good sized pieces of czech moldavite - which unbeknownst to me, have some kind of strange effect on people.
I'm almost afraid to open my mailbox when they arrive now - can someone please explain the stories i've heard, what this "spaced out" feeling is caused by when people use it, and more importantly, why i've read that "Its important to ONLY use moldavite for collecting, or in healing" and what the heck that's supposed to mean.
It sounds like an ominous warning.
It has me worried that there is some kind of potential bad that can becaused by these pieces. I really want to understand so I'm not afraid of the beautiful specimins i've purchased and would love to be able to wear (one is a huge, 88.5 carat sterling wire wrapped pendant) without worrying about what could(?) happen as a result.
I can't believe i've purchased something I've waited to hold in my hands for my whole adult life, and now these random stories i've read have me terrified of it before I've even touched it.
My only real experience with crystals of any kind is that oddly (and i don't follow new age or occult things) anytime i've worn a piece of amethyst or have worn it close to me, it breaks, cracks or shatters. (I've tested the theory on numerous pieces, thinking it was a fluke, or a bad stone - but every single time, they just crack in my hands, around my neck or while sitting somwhere close to me - very weird, cant explain that one either)
So anyone who has some info on these stories i've heard, or experiences with it themselves - i would really love to hear from you.
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Hi I boughta triqutra charm that has a piece of moldavite in the middle.. the charm picked me that I can honestly say. I didnt know anything about moldavite until yesterday... I see all the information on its energy and how the owner of the crystal can feel it and even too much for some.. I have never once felt any of its power can you tell me why??