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I've suffered 4 gallstone attacks in the last three months, and suffered through them. Three weeks ago I went to the hospital with another gallstone attack. An ultrasound revealed a stone 1.9 centimeters. Apparently it was unable to pass through. Since then I've eaten a low fat diet and had no further attacks. I am about to do Huilda Clark's gallbladder/liver flush, but am worried. What if 1.9 centimeters is too big to pass, even with the help of Epsom Salts ? I don't want to have it become lodged in the duct, too far in to fall back into the gall bladder. The pain is intolerable and I'm afraid surgery will be the only option then. Does anyone have any advice? Has anyone passed a stone as large as 1.9 centimeters?
I have never passed a stone that big.I think if i had one that size i would do a AJ fast for about 3-7 days to try to shrink it before a cleanse.You might also so want to go a little bit heavy on the Epsom Salts to make sure the bile ducts are wide open.Just make sure to rehydrate your self if you use alot of extra Salt.
I chickened out. The Epson salts were causing nausea and heartburn--and I took some sodiem bicarbinate to fight that. Then I started thinking--what if the sodiem bicarb messes with the chemistry of what is going on? When the time came to drink the olive oil and the grapefruit and lemon juice....I decided not to and went to sleep instead. Maybe I will regain my courage another day. I kept thinking back to the pain of those gallstone attacks and thinking "Do I want to risk that again?"
I am going to do the Hulda Clark liver/gallbladder cleanse-flush this weekend, and am collecting the ingredients now.
Have you had any experience using melatonin rather than the ornithine for help sleeping on the night of the cleanse? I use melatonin occasionally when my mind is too active for falling asleep easily, and I have no adverse reactions when using it (plus I have the tablets on hand).
I'll happily purchase the ornithine if it really is better to use in the case of this cleanse. Do you have any input? Thank you in advance for your consideration.
Personally I find melatonin to be superior- especially the Natrol slow-elease Melatonin.
Ornithine is going to have different effects dependant upon what conditions a person is dealing with.
For myself, it just gives a hike in blood sugar, and does not make me fall asleep.
Diabetes (type 1) is a tricky disorder. I suspect that the L-ornithine does not have the desired effect on me because of diabetes lowering the body's ability to produce enzymes (in this case protease) to carry the amino acids to where they're needed.
May you have a peaceful and successful liver-flush!
saw surgeon this morning. it seems my problem is thickening of the wall of the gallbladder, according to him even without my Gallstones the wall is not going to get repaired, part of reason:i have had Gallstones for 10 years. checked the medical pages and they say >3mm see doctor mine is 4.2mm). anyone has seen this problem before? i hope there are some answers. according to medical pages it does not look hopeful. oh, he told me that they are not doing stonecrushing (i know there is medical name for this)anymore, because i won't help inflamation. i hope someone has some "brain"crushing ideas. thanks, hanna
I have helicobacter pylori in my stomache, and I took several times antibiotics. But the treatments by antibiotics failed. Recently I found out by altra sound that I have gallstones, also I have cystes in my gallblader, liver and one of my kidneies. I am desparate, please tell me what to do. Can I flush my liver and gallblader, although I have helicobacter pylori and more possibley have ulcer too?
Thanks a lot
bano, i hope someone will react about the flushes, i don't have the knowledge, just started curezone a week ago. i had to go to a hp medical page to find out what it is. the only homeopathic remedy they mentioned was lactobacilli (yoghurt). for myself i ordered something for my spleen. i found taheebo(pau d'arco) you make a tea out of it. they say it strenghtens the spleen, helps bloodcirculation, diabetes,cysts, tumors. i got it at www.sensiblehealth.com. have my best wishes hanna
I saw this old post of mine. I can tell you now after about 10 months of flushing, the wall went back to normal, the inflammation was gone and my stone which was in the neck of the gallbladder was free floating so my gallbladder is normal and working again.
I just had my first gallbladder attack last friday.
Since wednesday I haven't eaten anything, just drinking distilled water for 2 and a half days then I started with applejuice and pearjuice. Now I'm experiencing pain in my chest cavity, and I am feeling nauseated. What should I do. I plan to start eating Monday, but I'm affraid if I do I could have another attack.
I did the fasting to reduce the inflammation of my gallbladder, and cleanse me of other toxins.
I wanted to wait til next weekend to flush, because I'm too week
to do it this weekend.
I am affraid I wont make it through the week without having another attack.
Should I try to flush tonight or should I wait?
Hi. First if you are having a gallbladder attack that can be life threatening and if the pain starts getting severe I would definitely tell you to go to the emergency room, don't risk your life!
I'm sure you already know this because you've already experienced one attack but here's some info according to John Hopkins Family Health Book: Gallstones - Symptoms - Pain in the upper right abdomen, which may spread to include the chest, back (between the shoulder blades), and shoulders; this pain may last as little as 15 minutes or as long as several hours, you may feel a repeat episode of pain a few hours later, or it may take weeks, months, or even years for another attack to occur. Also, nausea; vomiting; sweating; and jaundice (yellowing of the skin and whites of the eyes).
It does say that if you have severe pain in the upper back or abdomen that lasts longer than 15 minutes, go to the emergency room immediately; serious pain means that something is wrong. Among other things, this pain could be caused by a heart attack or bowel obstruction.
I'm not telling you this to scare you but so that you will make a good choice in what you decide to do. I've gone through this once before myself years ago and the pain lasted for hours, I couldn't move it hurt so bad, but it finally passed and I've never experienced it again. I chose not to go to the hospital but that was my personal choice and you should definitely monitor yourself.
As far as what to eat, perhaps if it were me, I'd have some liquid types of soups. I cant help but to wonder if it wouldn't help to try drinking glasses of water with a couple of spoons of olive oil and lemon juice mixed in it. Maybe that will help to soften things up a bit where it can pass.
I'm sure there are people on here much more experienced than I am and I can only tell you what I would do for myself. I hope everything will be okay with you. Please keep us up to date. And please, I wasn't trying to scare you, just make sure you are aware and don't take it too lightly.
hi...i had my first gallbladder attack last november...severe chest pain, i thought i was having a heart attack. I took myself to the emergency room where, after 4 hours, they told me i had "chest wall pain" and it should go away in a few days! ?? Anyway, after seeing my family physician and going for an ultrasound, Gallstones were discovered. I am scheduled for gallbladder surgery in one weeks time...
As for what you should eat, after my first gallstone attack, i went on a complete low-fat diet... and i haven't had another attack since, but the times i do cheat and have something yummy, like a cream sauce, ice cream, pizza...i pay for it, yeowwza...
I discovered this site not too long ago, and with my boyfriends encouragement i did a Liver Flush last weekend with the idea that, if i did pass some stones, i would postpone my surgery...well, i did the flush, followed every gross detail of it, and had no success...i really do not want to flush again and have decided to have the surgery in one week.
I find if you don't eat anything, you are making things worse. Make sure to eat something, soup, oatmeal, cereal, but NO fat.
I hope this helps you somehow...I know how frustrating being in this position can be...altho there are possible side effects to surgery, there are possible dangers to NOT having the surgery as well. I wish the flush had been successful for me, but you know, it won't hurt you to try it. It really won't....
Kewl...have you read all the posts on this site by people that have had their gallbladders out and STILL have 'gallbladder' pain??? Have you read those? Not only do they still have pain, but they can't eat large meals, any fat etc etc...
You don't want to try one more flush?
There are plenty more posts (especially in this thread), but this as the first one I found when I searched - "no gallbladder" pain - on the curezone search.
hi! yes i've read tons of posts here...but i also have spoken with 6 women personally who have had their gb's out and are very glad they did...no more pain, no diarrea, nothing...one was 10 years ago, two 7 years ago, two 3 years ago...so...i tried the flush, will go for the dam surgery and keep my fingers crossed...
I had gullbladder attacks for years like you have, I am finally doing a series of gullbladder flushes. I say don't get your gullbladder removed! Do the 1 day flush and repeat every two weeks until no stones come out. If you get gullbladder pain after the flush then take a dose of epsoms salt and if its still persists do a mini flush where you during 1/4 cup of olive oil to flush the stone out that's bothering you. I was getting gullbladder attacks almost daily which is why I am now serious about the flushes. The attacks stopped after the first flush. I'm doing my second today. Do the flush!!! Don't wait, do asap. Doctors will it want to make a quick buck and remove your gullbladder. I was told my gullbladder would kill me in a month if I didn't remove it, that was 8 years ago. I didn't listen and changed my diet to get healthier. I'm still alive! If you have a bad gullbladder attack try ibprofin, for me (I know its bad but it works) I take 1000mg of ibprofin and the pain would go away after 30-45 minutes. Its only for emergency attacks tho and u shouldn't get attacks after a flush or two. Do the flushes every two weeks till no stones come out, about 10flushes. GL and be strong. Watch how great u feel after a few flushes :-) :-). Its wonderful. You may get sick for a week or so after a flush if your body is real toxic. Think of it as a road to feeling better.
Gosh don't you just HATE gallbladder attacks. I had a baby six-months ago and I would rather go through that, than the horrible ripping pain through my back and chest. I know where you are at it is not a fun place to be and it is quite scary. You become afraid to eat, agitated because you are hungry and just feel frustrated and hopeless about your health. But... I found something that works for me when I have a gallbladder attack.
I take 1 tbs of epsoms in 1c of grapefruit. I have had to do this only once, but it worked very, very well for me. I went from having an attack at least once of month to not having one in 3months. Diet modification, liver flushing, daily moving of bowels have been the secret to my success.
You have to listen to your body. You know what it can handle and what it cannot. Do as I do, give it to God. Let him work on it. And trust yourself!!
I want to also add that I would much rather go through labor any day of the week or every day of the week then experiance another attack ever again. My Dr. says his mother had 5 children without an epidural and she said it is NOTHING compared to s GB attack.
I'm still VERY sore, and out of work because I can hardly get around. I feel nauseous, and I ache in my chest and back. I can't get through three hours without needing a nap. I don't know what to eat, as well. I just experiment, and eat what I can that's low to no fat. Mostly broth, but I am moving to solid foods. I couldn't even hold my baby for the first month & 1/2 of her life!
I would go to the emergency room if your pain lasts a long time, and is so painful it feels like a heart attack. I had my first attack while pregnant last November (I am 28). I was driving, and I had to pull over, I thought I was going to die, and I could just limply wave my hand out the car window to hope I could get someone's attention, to at least save my baby. I SWORE I was having a heart attack. (No, no one came to my rescue). I had them three times since then. A month later and a week before having the baby I had one, and still thought it was just BAD heartburn and a large baby since that's what my OB said. I didn't go to the ER, I don't think about my GB everyday, for cryin' out loud. I had one two weeks after having the baby. This lasted over an hour, and I was so scared I was going to die, my poor hubby packed the baby up and we ventured out in the middle of a snow storm at 4AM to the ER. It was an obstruction, that couldn't work it's way out like the other attacks. They did an ultrasound and saw the stones. I had my GB removed a few days later, and was sure it was all downhill from here. Nope! Three weeks later I was back at the hospital in yet another snowstorm with the same pain. It was left over stones. Not only had I been experiancing blockage, I had severe pancreatitus, and NONE of these things are something to guess about. Now I think about my digestive tract every day, and I am healing VERY slowly because I waited so long. I'm on lots of Pain meds and I feel like poo everyday, and it's been a month already. If you suspect it, and you are doubled over in pain, take the risk and GO DIRECTLY to the ER. Better safe then dead, my friend. Good luck and feel better!
I completed my second Liver Flush on Tuesday. Wednesday morning I woke up and my face was covered in rashes with small pimply bumps. My guess is that I am "detoxifying" or something. Other than the fact that I look I have a disease, I am actually kind of exited that the flush made such an impact on my body. My on-going lower back pain is gone too. Bowel movements are still very loose and smell horrible. I feel great though. Better than I have felt for a long LONG time, despite the attacks that I had on Tuesday during the flush. I am getting addicted to this flush thing, because I feel SO GOOD afterwards!!! Also, I passed mostly baby green stones, but I also had lots of bright green, flat, square things too. Are these just squashed stones? The liver cleanse is the only one I have done- what order do I do the others in? I would like to do a parasite, kidney, and bowel clense also. For the liver clense, all I have is a photo copy out of somebody else's book, so I need to go out and get these books so I can do them correctly. Thanks for the support!
I have had similar reactions but my rashes come out near elbows, stomach and legs. To help sit in a really hot salt bath(whole thing of salt poured in hot water). Epsom Salts can be used but I personally like the reg. salt. Pour the slat directley on oyour skin everywhere and rub to break off old skin so the skin underneath can release toxins.
Whenever I get a massage or cleanse and have nausea this takes it away.
Yes! I have them too! I have unbelievably clear skin also, and I woke up with this rash all over my face!!! I hope someone can help me figure out how to rid of this :( I have been on an alkaline diet and "detoxifying" as well, how long will this affect me and can anyone tell me how to get rid of it??? Please :( I am desperate and I want my face to return to normal.....
Hi, I planned on doing the liver/gallbladder cleanse until I read that if you dont do the parasite or kidney clense, the liver cleanse wont work cause it cant with living parasites in it. I read how to do the parasite cleanse, and It seems WAY too much trouble for me, and Is it REALLY necessary? And theres no way I could go out and get all the ingredients for it. If someone knows if The liver cleanse will stioll work for me with out doing anything else, then PLEASE help me!!! Im a 19 yr old girl, with much other things to take care of than this, and no one else can even help me cause they think Im crazy for getting all into this!
Hi Prettybow! You don't have to do a parasite cleanse before the liver flush. I didn't...and many people don't. Flush away....and then you just might be hooked and have to do the parasite cleanse, master cleanse (kidneys and cellular detoxifying) and bowel cleanse! One never knows....
i agree that paragone is very easy to use. it does work. however, i have done another parasite cleanse. i am a little daring. hula clark have what is called . it is a combination of Black-Walnut hulls, worm wood and cloves. i am cheap and i like to see if i can make a recipe up myself and i did. i bought tintures of the 3 three and put about 10 drops of each in a glass of water and drink 3 times a day. it seem to help me with my liver cleanses. i also put a kidney tinture. this is what work for me. people laugh at me when they see my kitchen.
I'm not going to pass judgement on whether one can or can't do a Liver Flush without first doing a parasite cleanse, but I will simply draw your attention towards Doc Sutter's assertion that attempting to flush the liver whilst it still has live parasites and viable eggs in it may lead to redistribution of these ova in the body (possibly returning back to the liver) and thus flushing may be a waste of time until one has taken steps to avoid such an ova-redistribution scenario occurring. You'll find Doc Sutter has a dedicated forum on Curezone.
At the end of the day, it's your decision.
P.S. can't believe this thread is 8 yrs old and counting!
It's been a few months since I was last here, I hope everyone is well :o)
I was just wondering if any of you have suffered from Urticaria after you started cleansing? If so, what did you do to clear it up? Is it just a matter of time or do you have a technique that you can share?
Yea I remember having these a while back, it really sucks when you have to go through this as they can really mess with your lifestyle.
The best advice I can give you is to hold on and you'll make it out of there soon :)
I included the link at the bottom of this page....it is info on Lipitor....the #1 prescribed cholesterol drug.
I find it very interesting that the pharmaceutical information points out that Lipitor inhibits the enzyme that produces cholesterol.....at the very bottom of the page there is the following warning:
Consult your physician about blood tests monitoring the liver function.
Liver function tests should be performed before the initiation of treatment and periodically thereafter. Patients who develop abnormalities will be monitored until they are resolved, or a reduction of dose or withdrawal of treatment is recommended by a physician.
I find it very interesting that a drug that is used to lower cholesterol specifically warns of the effects on the liver....hmmmmmmm
"The doctor then pointed out to me that if all it took to lower cholesterol was to get rid of gallstones...then we would all just have our gallbladders removed.....I then pointed out that Gallstones may actually form in the liver...."
If this was your doctor's response and understanding of Gallstones and liver function he obviously wasn't paying attention in class when organ function was discussed. I'd find a new doctor if I was you. I'm looking for a new one myself here in Seattle. By the way congrats on the great results!
Yeah, I noticed it before too. Isn't it amazing how many things we can spot now that we have a little knowledge. So basically someone who is taking it has a fatty liver(full of those greasy stones) and now they are gonna use something that should only be used on a well functioning liver. Well duh?!? That doesn't sound very good eh?
I did my 2nd flush last tuesday,I got some help from a couple of girls here on the forum. But I still need some more help. Can I flush again this weekend. I have pains on my left side, it feels like something is stuck. It hurts to cough or sneeze. I am waiting for phosfood like Butterfly said to use, but is there anything else to use and how often has this happened to other people? I am not sure if it is in the liver or outside of it. It just hurts. I am alitte afraid to flush again,because of the pain. My first flush went fine,but the 2nd one was a Big pain. Can anyone help me. Thanks for any advice. Donna :-)
i dont know what to tell you. i have read that ya can do them the next day if there is a problem. i would say do it but i would hate for you to get even worse. but if i were you i would do another one before i saw my doc about it. hopfully someone else will have a better answer for you. take care
while you are waiting on the phosfood. you might try drinking apple juice, or get some malic acid pills. they all help disolve the stones. i have been taking 1/4 c. olive oil follow with 2 tablespoons of lemon juice(suppose to disolve the stones.) use a straw lemon can eat away at your teeth. every evening. i have been passing stones every night this week. i have pass about 400 this week.
i know how you feel. i found my phosfood here in columbus , ohio at a charpractor.
I'm looking for a kinder, gentler method than the Epsom Salts . ES has worked very well, but it's a bit much and takes all day (for me). I'm very interested in learning more about your method. Could you answer a few quick questions?
1. About what time of day do you take 1/4 c. Olive-Oil and 2T lemon juice?
2. About what time in the evening do the stones come out?
3. What size was the largest stone that came out this week?
I did Dr.Schulze flushes for 9 days because I had a terrible pain in upper right.After this flushes I felt much better.
I did not use Epsom Salt just formula #1.Also hot castor oil pack helped me a lot during this cleanning.
You have pains in the left side right? But the liver/gallbladder are on the right.
The left side pain could be your large intestine (colon)....how are your bowel movements? Are you gassy? It's quite possible that you need to do a bowel cleanse. Did you have diarrea after your last flush? How quickly did your bm's get back to normal? Are you regular? (doesn't sound like a liver problem to me...but I could be wrong!)
Have you done any parasite cleansing at all? (so many questions, sorry!)
Drink lots of warm water....warm water (good water) first thing in the morning with a little lemon (a few mugs) will get things going. I think that something needs to move through your bowels. A good Bowel Cleanse will help. Check out the posts within this link: http://curezone.com/forums/m.asp?f=153&i=1061
Maybe, for immediately relief take 1 tbsp of Epsom Salts in one cup of water and drink it back. It should relax whatever muscle/organ etc that is causing the problem...and will probably make you eliminate. Although, if you already have diarrea then you might not want to do that. It's possible you need a good probiotic to replenish the good bacteria after liver flushing too....
Thanks for your help Tracey, I did the parasite cleanse before and I also do enemas before each cleanse. I did have diaherra for awhile. I took es just to help. I thought to that something was stuck in the bowel system. I did another enema after ward too. But what ever it is it's still there. It was on my left side. I know if there was anything wrong on the right it would be the gb. The only thing different I did was to take a coffee enema before. I will just have to do it again on Monday. Thanks for your support. P.P.
is the cleanse recommended for those with constipation ( mild hemorrhoids) I read somewhere that an unclean liver can cause hemorrhoids - hence want to try the cleanse. any suggestions anyone? Will expelling stones result in greater anal pain? Pls advise - do not wantto try if it is painful -already have splinter pains in the anal region
Search for hemorrhoids and liver in the Google search box in the upper right corner of the screen and I think you'll find some references. I believe within the last couple of weeks someone posted that their hemorrhoids cleared up after one or more liver cleanses.
Yes, some folks have gotten pretty sore bottoms. It's not the stones, it's the diarrhea when using Epsom Salts . One technique that several people have had luck with is to Vaseline the anus before each episode.
The worst reported case that I've seen is from someone who was fruit fasting. I would suggest if at all possible to eat regularly and don't stuff yourself (stopping at 2:00 PM).
I've had to go to the loo 7-8 times in each of my six cleanses, and it's the cramping and fatigue that mostly bothers me. For my seventh cleanse I'm going to try cutting down to 1/2 cup of Epsom Salts instead of 3/4 cup and see if that's easier on me.
Some folks have had success without any Epsom salts. It's much less productive but it's much gentler. However, supposedly the Epsom salts relax the ducts and valves so that stones don't get trapped, which is what most folks seem to worry about the most. You might want to investigate the various methods. Pick your poison.
If you decide to proceed, let us know what you tried and how well it worked. Good luck!
did the cleanse last night (with Epsom Salts ) - Its 1 am the following night and I havent visited the loo even once let alone expel stones. what the heck is happening???? any advise? am worried here -could something be blocking my ducts? I am constipated usually by this is way too much...
did the cleanse last night (with Epsom Salts ) - Its 1 am the following night and I havent visited the loo even once let alone expel stones. what the heck is happening???? any advise? am worried here -could something be blocking my ducts? I am constipated usually by this is way too much...
Hi there. I hope you're feeling better by now. The same thing happened to me when I tried a flush over 10 yrs ago. I got totally backed up--I felt like the olive oil had even traveled into my brain! Maybe you're going to have to take some laxatives or something. Sorry I don't have any brilliant news for you but I do sympathize. I'm going to flush again but am still bowle and parasite cleansing for now...hopefully next time around will be better!
My sister goes to a naturopath doctor in Dallas, Texas. This doctor told my sister that regular medical doctors were sending their patients who can't afford gallbladder surgeries to this doctor for liver flushes. Now what does that say about how well the Liver Flushes work!!!
I just thought this was interesting information to pass along to those who are skeptical about doing these flushes.
Hi. I see your post from 2003. If your still on here, i'd like to know if your sister still has her gallbladder, and if she is still having gallbladder symptoms. My 16 year old has a blockage in the cystic duct. She doesn't want surgery and is having zero fat to avoid pain. This is bad. I have heard about the different remedies, and if your sisters is still working, i'm hoping you can pass it on. So far, I have not tried any because I am reluctant to try something on my child. Drs. Do not give any support for these things. I hope to hear from you. Thankyou. Bye.
Can anybody tell me the difference between "sludge" and "stones?"
My doctor just confirmed that there are no stones in my gallbladder nor in my bile ducts (thank God!), but my gallbladder is infected and has sludge in it. He has given me antibiotics, but he told me that if the pain recurs, my gallbladder will have to be surgically removed. I'm still on medication, and will be for the next 7 days, but I'm afraid that when the medicine runs out the pain will recur and I will have to be operated on.
Do you think a Liver Flush would help? Are there no other alternatives available to me aside from the surgical removal of my gallbladder? The doctor told me there was none. Please can anybody help?
Hi there! The sludge will be SO easy to get rid of! Many people get out sludge and stones when they do a liver flush.
So...there is NO way you have to have your gallbladder surgically removed! no way. This will be easy.
Just follow the Hulda Clark recipe: http://curezone.com/cleanse/liver/huldas_recipe.asp
Sludge, just shows that your liver/gallbladder is stagnant and not functioning at optimal health. You just need to clean it out with some flushes and probably do a Bowel Cleanse as well...this will get your whole abdomen functioning perfectly!
The liver is the 'general' of the body (Traditional Chinese Medicine)...so it has to be in tip top shape so that it can order all the other organs around. If it is in poor shape then all the others will be too. The colon and small intestine are very important to overall health too.
Read this article called, "Journey to the Center of the Colon". After reading that you'll probably want to do some Bentonite and psyllium drinks to clear out your intestines and continue with flushes every two weeks just to get everything working excellently!
Here is B&P info: http://curezone.com/forums/m.asp?f=153&i=1061
Below is the link to the excellent article. It will dispel any mysteries about your body and you'll feel confident about what you're about to do...get yourself healthy by yourself!! (exciting)
So good luck..and we'll be here to answer any questions you might have.
I was also told I had sludge in my gallbladder and was told the only option was surgery, I was not even offered antibiotics. My surgery is scheduled for tomorrow and after all my research I am definitly cancling intil I can find out more. Can these natural treatments get the sludge out of my gallbladder and lower my risk of forming stones?
And because you're on antibiotics...make SURE that when you come off them you get the best probiotics and keep taking them. This will replenish your system with the good bacteria that will CONTINUE to fight the infection, if it is still there. After you read that article it will be clear that the infection wouldn't have occurred if you had a clean and balanced abdomen.
So, that is a must.
You may want to take milk thistle and dandelion to repair and rejuvenate your liver/gallbladder, too, after your finished your rounds of antibiotics.
Thanks, Tracey. I have a couple of questions. Since I am not a native English speaker, I don't understand what "probiotics" are. Tried to look it up in the dictionary but didn't find it. Could you give me samples, names, etc.? And also, what is "milk thistle?" I hope to hear from you. Thank you soooooooooooo much.
Probiotics are good bacteria. Acidophilus, Bifidus and more... One brand is 'primal defense', I think. Also...23rdman was telling us how to make it on the bowel forum - with cabbage (!).
Milk Thistle is a herb that is excellent for repairing and nourishing the liver. It would be available at a good health store in tincture form. Or at a vitamin store with a bunch of other stuff for your liver in capsule. (I think tincture is much better than 'dead' capsules)
Milk Thistle and Dandelion work symbiotically together...so it's best to do both. You can drink dandelion tea, while taking milk thistle tincture.
I've gotta run now! (I'm late!)
please ask more questions if you need to...
*I hope you will flush...because that is what will REALLY get the sludge out!
The best probiotic I've found is Primadophilous Bifidous (PB). It contains 2 Lactobacillus strains (including acidophilus) and 2 Bifidobacterium strains. It's in the refridgerator in the nutrition section of health food stores.
I used to be married to Lactaid and Beano. I never left the house without them (keys, wallet, Lactaid, Beano). Since using PB I no long seem to need Lactaid or Beano. (I do get a little gas from certain kinds of cheeses, but not trots.)
Note: These four bacteria may be foreign to your body, even acidophilus (which is easily killed by room temperature and stomach acid). Many people who have been taking acidophilus for years actually have none in their digestive systems, especially those who have been buying non-refrigerated versions. PB is refrigerated plus it is in an enterically coated capsule (so the good bacteria survive stomach acid and make it into the small intestine).
The reason I'm telling you this is to prevent you from getting the trots at work, since your body might rebel against it since it contains "foreign" substances. What I did was to take a 16th of a capsule (it doesn't taste bad). Then I waited two days to see if I had any negative effects (I did). When I could handle it I took a little more. I gradually built up to one 3x per day. Now I just take one per day and that seems to do it.
Milk thistle can be very good, but I've only found one active brand that actually does anything: Thisilyn. It really made my liver feel better. This was before I started cleansing. The first bottle of Thisilyn made a big difference. I was cautioned by a nutritionist to not take the second bottle, but I did, and it seemed like it didn't have any affect, so I stopped taking it...
Tracey wrote: "You mean taking a good probiotic can give you diarrea? hmmmmm....but then your system gets used to it and you're back to normal?"
Yup. It's kind of like when Americans visit Mexico and get Montezuma's Revenge. As you may know, it's not that uncommon for Mexicans visiting the United States to get a similar reaction when eating our lettuce, for example, until they become accustomed to our bacteria.
This diarrhea can easily be more severe than Epsom Salts (i.e., no time to make it to the loo), so it's a good idea for us to gently introduce these bugs into our digestive systems. Taking the first dose on Friday evening when we know that we'll be around the house on the weekend is not a bad way to start.
23rdman's cabbage recipe is interesting. I especially appreciate that one recipe calls for soaking the raw cabbage in bleach water. I have been trying to buy a decent, non-moldy raw cabbage in Northern California for the last 4 months to no avail.
It certainly can take three months (or in some cases even six months) to firmly establish the levels of probiotics that really work for us. However, I would be much more comfortable if there were an analysis of how much of what type of bacteria is in their concoction. Until I have something definitive, I think I'll stick with the Primadophilus Bifidous.
Also, I'm not sure how much I need another time-consuming thing right now. Now maybe if there were a Mrs. Hypoguy... ;).
by sludge, I guess that's that scummy looking stuff that is part of the liver flush. If I was you I would do a few Liver Flushes and then go to the doctor and see what he says (don't tell him what you are doing)
It would be great if you would share the results with us. I've seen way too many people on this forum who have had their gall bladder taken out, had the same pain they did before and severly regretted listening to their doctor.
Good luck on whatever route you choose.
I am having the same problem and have checked with the doctor for an
infection and there is none. Also I am flooding myself with water.
I drink two glasses of good water when I go to the bathroom and nothing
has worked so far.. I think I have been drinking about 14 glasses a day,
and I can't take anymore.. I have no pain and feel fine or pretty fine,
I don't get enough sleep but that is all I can think of odd.. Any help
or ideas would be appreciated..
I have had chronic diarrhea for 21 years now. My doctor happened to give me Welchol for an unrelated reason. It is fantastic for controlling the diarrhea. For several months, I have not had to worry any longer about eating only at home, or being within five minutes of a bathroom. The doctor is trying to get me off of the Welchol as it did not do what he wanted, but I am fighting it because of this side benefit. I started at 4 625mg pills/day, but found that it still works well enough at just 2 pills with dinner. Hope it helps someone else.
Chronic diarrhea is usually caused by food allergies. Search the web for Nambudripad Allergy Elimination Technique (naet). This
is what cured me of my chronic diarrhea.....it was a miracle. It will cure one allergy at a time.
I have had horrible diarrhea for the past month. My doctor is going to perform a colonoscopy in a month to determine what the underlying problem is. However in the meantime he prescribed me Welchol to treat the diarrhea. It was worked very effectively. I am using a dose of 2 pills taken with each meal. I no longer have to run to the bathroom 15+ times per day. I am down to about 4 times daily and I can take my time in finding a bathroom, its great.
It worked for me also. Years and years ago it started. I went through all the tests and the conclusion was that it was IBS. A couple of years ago the doctor put me on welchol for cholestrol and the IBS went away. Stayed on it for a year (6 pills a day) but found out it caused anal itching (sorry but it did). Did not want to give it up, so decreased until I started having symptoms again. One pill a day and I was back to cramping after I eat. Two pills every other day was the answer.
I have been going trough dozens of apples and I'm all juiced out.
I found organic applejuice at a store, but it has 26 grams of Sugar in it. Is this the natural Sugar from the apples, or is it added sugar.
After a gallbladder attack it is recommended not to have sugar or refined sugars.
Any suggestions would be appeciated.
"After a gallbladder attack it is recommended not to have Sugar or refined sugars."
-- Plus, these juice trips are a frontal assault on the endocrine system.
I know a head nurse at an endocrinologist's office who won't even walk down the aisle of the supermarket that has the fruit juices in it. She sees what juices do to the endocrine system, and she doesn't want to be tempted.
There is so much more Sugar in fruit juice than there is in the fruit itself. For example, a small container of Odwalla might have the juice from two grapefruits in it. We can drink it in five minutes, spiking the heck out of our blood sugar, and seriously challenging our endocrine systems. Normally, we would eat only 1/2 of a grapefruit in one sitting, which is much easier on us than drinking the juice...
I went to Whole Foods today, which is a grocery store with mostly all organic items.
I was looking for organic applejuice, I found some, but it said on the label 26 grams of sugar.So I didn't buy it.
I will just keep juicing. It may take a while to do, but at least I know it is the best.
Yes, absolutely, organic apple juice has naturally occurring Sugar in it.
I just took a look at the label of the Odwalla grapefruit juice that I use for liver cleansing. It has:
You can see for yourself that there is not enough fat and protein to balance out the sugar. And gator says apple juice has 26g of sugar? Oh boy. He's going to the moon on that stuff. This is one of the reasons that people think that they feel so good on these juice fasts. They are on a Sugar high, pure and simple.
I feel so badly for all of the poor people who have been to one doctor after another for years and years and are in such poor health. In desperation they allow themselves to get taken in by these fasting schemes, embracing them like a new religion that will save them ("...all disease begins in the bowels, just get your bowels clean and you will be well my child...").
Meanwhile, they haven't done an adrenal profile (four saliva tests in the same day at certain time), so they don't know what their cortisol, DHEA-S and testosterone levels are. They haven't been tested for reactive hypoglycemia. Nor have they done a blood test for 27 minerals. Nor any one of a dozen different tests to see where hidden infections might be.
Perhaps some people who have bowel problems can benefit from parts of some of these programs, but there must be a better approach. Imagine, 26g of sugar per CUP!
And how many cups of juice do people on the apple juice fast drink per day? There are 16 cups per gallon. That's 416g of sugar in a gallon! I sure hope that no one is drinking a gallon of apple juice per day! Even a half of a gallon! Even ______ per day!
The apple juice fast is a bare-knuckled assault on the endocrine system, which in many of these people has already been weakened from bearing the burden of undiagnosed or improperly diagnosed illnesses.
Thanks, Paulette, for giving me the opportunity to vent (and help a few people too, I hope).
I can tell you from my candida diet days that fruit juices would send me through the roof! Prior to the onslaught of candida I had a relatively sugar-free diet as far as refined and processed foods. I did eat alot of fruits and fruit juices, plus I had no idea how much hidden Sugar there was in so many other foods. When I first went on the candida diet I went through Sugar withdrawal galore!!!! It wasn't until I had done a few Liver Flushes this past year (15 years later) that I can finally drink apple juice to prepare for a flush! I used to add club soda to my juices when I felt the urge for an oj or something - that reduced my sugar surge.
I know I've kind of dropped off this bulletin board in the last month or so, but I am back, and at it again! Let me fill you in on my crazy life since I've last been on here:
It was over a month ago when I almost died from low sodium levels. I had to be rushed to the ER because I was feeling increasingly dilerious with the shakes. (In fact, I think my last letter was written just before I was taken in to the hospital) I started projectile vomiting in front of the doctors, and then the last thing I remember is going blind! Everything turned white and I remember panicking in my short breaths to the doctors telling them I couldn't SEE anymore! I said "good-bye" and "I love you" to my significant other and then I was out. According to Chad (boyfriend), I then had two seizures and stopped breathing. The doctors had to put a tube down my throat and hook me up to a breathing machine for 26 hours and slowly intrevenously drip sodium back into my system to it's normal level.
It turns out I was drinking WAY too much water! (2 gallons a day for the two weeks prior to the hospital visit --I had a cold and my body CRAVED the water. Before that, I had been drinking about one gallon a day for about a year or so.)
Thank God I lived, but because of the tube down my throat, I developed a lung infection that required ANTIBIOTICS. Because of this, after one round of the little bastards, my CANDIDA problem is back and ferocious once again. (getting worse every day).
So, for anyone that is still with me, here are my questions:
1. Should one get a candida (not to mention parasite) problem under control BEFORE doing a liver cleanse?
2 Also, I was curious if anyone knew anything about the clay baths to detox heavy metals from the system. Three years ago when I first became sick I tested possitive for heavy metals from a hair analysis and am wondering whether they might be a reason my candida/parasite problem is SO stubborn.
I was concerned about how SAFE the clay baths are. I tried a product (thioctic Acid from Clearwater Herbs) that supposedly "gently" detoxed heavy metals from the system. Well, after just a few capsules of this stuff, my liver and kidneys were REALLY feeling unhappy! They stayed this way for about a month or so.
Do the metals pulled from the pores in clay baths burden the system in any way?
I just don't want to screw anything up! My past record hasn't been very good so far....!:)
it shouldnt... and oh my.. yeah, too little sodium is really bad.. your cells have trouble staying together.. water is good, but keeping it in moderation is great.. and people need salt :) .. but im glad you're fine, and im sure you know that
try Epsom Salt baths too.. the clay? no reason why it should really be bad is there? remember :) more salt :)
I've done the clay baths twice. (Kinda bothersome since I have a jetted tub so I have to line it with plastic and then bail out the water into the toilet.)But well worth the trouble. Results in a great night's sleep and happy skin. Also did a foot soak one time too - HappyFeet! There was a definite darkening of the clay so I'm sure that something nasty was leached out of me. I haven't seen anything negative published anywhere about clay baths. Happy soaking! Oh yeah, don't soak for longer than advised (at least the first one) because they do take more out of you than a regular soak.
It is my belief that candida outgrowths greatly weaken the body as they claim nutrition that the body needs and prevent its normal functioning. Therefore dealing with candida is, to a certain extent, an a priori before trying other cleansing procedures. Other people may disagree but my sense is that the body needs to have some underlying strength to deal with the powerful elimation process that cleansing provokes. Also cleansing can further reduce nutritional intake, therefore allowing the candida to make even more serious claims on what nutrition is going into the body.
But I have also found over the last couple of years that dealing with candida is not as difficult as it once seemed. I use the following method if I can feel the build up in my body, (which also shows as very bad athlete's foot attacks for me). I simply cut out Sugar and alcohol, take some Black-Walnut tincture, (or garlic works as well), and take regular pro-biotics with yoghurt. Normally, the candida is back under control within 2 or 3 days. I hope this is of use.
Finally, I know you have learnt the hard way, but please be careful about the water intake. Not only can it lead to threatening situations because of loss of vital electrolytes, it can also dilute digestion, again undermining nutrition. Water should be drunk but preferably a clear two hours after or before eating and at least one hour. This has long been known by the Japanese and Chinese but the current fashion for water has obscured some obvious dangers.
I went through yeast detox 4 years ago, pure hell, now I have an idea what true withdrawal symptoms must be like. I was on a rollercoaster with binging on carbs and crashing. My naturopath did a live culture blood test and I have more tha 5x the acceptable levels of yeast microbes.
It was a 6 week program of alterating my diet and it was strict. I cheated in week 3 with "a cookie" and paid dearly for it. It was a battle between me and the buggers. In the end I won.
Everything that I've read has pointed to do the detox in the following order:
Some people have not and have reported on here that that was ok with them. However, given what you have reported, I would follow the order of the cleanse. It has been claimed that you can get really sick if you do a liver cleanse before doing a parasite detox. In my opinion (well for me) the LC is the most challenging and perhaps the most uncomfortable of all the cleanse. (See my post here from yesterday).
The colon detox, I think The Master Cleanse program is the most effective in program as well as the most cost effective. I did it for 12 days (min 10 max 40 days) and noticed huge difference in well being by day 2. I have also done cleansing baths w Epsom Salt baths on more than a weekly basis, this really draws out the toxins, as I go into the bath after a squeaky clean shower and the bath water is murky after a soak and 3 vigorous scrubs (see my post http://www.curezone.com/forums/m.asp?f=178&i=752 under fasting forum-master cleanse from 5 days ago for details).
When you're doing the salt baths/sauna, drink lots of water. I normally have at least half a litre while I'm doing an Epsom Salt bath and 2 L for my sauna ritual. This high volume of water maintains the blood pressure (so you don't get light headed), flushes out all toxins in the far corners of your body that have now been made accessible from the heat and gives your kidney a good workout to flush it out, keeps you hydrated.
The Epsom Salts dissolve in the bathwater and becomes a soln of salt ions that "needs" to bond to something, the heavy metals and toxins are then drawn out from your pores/skin to bond to these salt ions.
I don't know about clay baths or how it affects your systems. I find that Epsom Salts are much cheaper than clay (here in Toronto/mississauga, you can get 1kg of ES for $1.9 at the Bulk Barn and I usually use about 2 cups/bath). I only use clay masks for my face and that's only about once every 2 months for a facial.
Can't say that I've heard of that. Hydrogen Peroxide is used as disinfectant to clean out (kills and fizzes out good and bad cells/bacteria)wounds. How it would work in a bath, I can't comment on that.
Can't say that I've heard of that. Hydrogen Peroxide is used as disinfectant to clean out (kills and fizzes out good and bad cells/bacteria)wounds. How it would work in a bath, I can't comment on that.
I forgot to add that if you're interested in the yeast detox (6 weeks)I went through, it worked, has no additional costs, and it has not returned at all. Some of my friends/acquaintences have gone through shorter protocols and the yeast always came back and they needed to "fix the problem again".
Let me know here and I will post it in the appropriate forum.
I wrote to Andreas Mortitz and he said to use Kinotakara pads under the soles of your feet to pull out metals and toxins from the body. Why do you think you are so full of heavy metals? Could it be your teeth?
I am an artist, and I think this is one main reason why I may be full of metals. My teeth fortunately have no metal in them, but my mom has a metal mouth and I bet it gave me a head start in the womb...?
Where can I find out what kinokitara pads are all about? A website? Thank you!
You might check with a left-of-center doctor who does chelation therapy to see what chelation treatment can offer. Chelation bonds a substance to the metals and then your body can excrete them.
According to my bio-friendly dentist, mercury can be easily chelated using 1 tsp. cilantro, 1000mg NAC and vitamin C (to bowel tolerance) per day for a month. This was the recommendation for a 170 lb. guy.
(NOTE: Baths should be taken on a daily basis during detox and rotated, switching to a different type of bath each day. After detoxing, use whichever bath seems appropriate to meet your current needs.)
This bath opens pores and eliminates toxins and also helps to eliminate pain. Stir one cup of Epsom Salts and 2 tablespoons of ginger in a cup of water first, then add to the bath. Do not remain in the tub for more than 30 minutes.
SALT AND SODA:
This bath counteracts the effects of radiation, whether from X-rays, cancer treatment radiation, fallout from the atmosphere, or television radiation. 1 cup of baking soda and 1 to 2 cups of ordinary coarse salt (or epsom salts or Sea Salt ) to a tub of water. You can soak for 20 minutes.
EPSOM SALTS, Sea Salt , AND SESAME OIL:
This bath helps with dry skin and stress. Take 1 cup of Epsom salt, 1 cup of sea salt (from the health food store), and 1 cup of sesame oil and put into a warm to hot tub of water and soak for 20 minutes. Pat yourself dry.
This is used when the body is too acidic. This is a quick way of restoring the acid-alkaline balance. 1 cup to 2 quarts of 100% apple cider vinegar to a bathtub of warm water. Soak 40 to 45 minutes. This is excellent for excess uric acid in the body and especially for the joints, arthritis, bursitis, tendonitis, and gout. Bentonite BATH:
A fast detoxification method. Soak 2 to 4 pounds of Bentonite clay in a flat container overnight to dissolve it. Then add this to a tub of water. With 2 pounds of bentonite you would soak one hour; with 4 pounds you would soak only about 30 minutes. The more bentonite used, the faster the detoxification. (NOTE: While bentonite is a great adsorber, it is widely used to seal well-casings and ponds. It would very likely seal many septic systems too, costing thousands to repair. Use sparingly or with caution!)
For candida the excellent choice is grapefruit seed extract.Start with one drop in juice or water.Increase daily.
Common Heavy Metals: Please Review the Known Sources and Health Effects
Aluminum, arsenic, cadmium, lead, mercury, and nickel are the most prevalent heavy metals. The specific sources of exposure, target tissues and health effects of each metal are identified below. 'First published in the Townsend Letters for Doctors & Patients, July, 1999'
Sources of exposure: Aluminum cookware, aluminum foil, antacids, antiperspirants, baking powder (aluminum containing), buffered aspirin, canned acidic foods, food additives , lipstick, medications and drugs (anti-diarrheal agents, hemorrhoid medications, vaginal douches), processed cheese, “softened” water, and tap water.
Target tissues: Bones, brain, kidneys, and stomach.
Signs and Symptoms: Colic, dementia, esophagitis, gastroenteritis, kidney damage, liver dysfunction, loss of appetite, loss of balance, muscle pain, psychosis, shortness of breath, and weakness.
Sources of exposure: Air pollution, antibiotics given to commercial livestock, certain marine plants, chemical processing, coal-fired power plants, defoliants, drinking water, drying agents for cotton, fish, herbicides, insecticides, meats (from commercially raised poultry and cattle), metal ore smelting, pesticides, seafood (fish, mussels, oysters), specialty glass, and wood preservatives .
Target tissues: Most organs of the body, especially the gastrointestinal system, lungs, and skin.
Signs and Symptoms: Abdominal pain, burning of the mouth and throat, cancer (especially lung and skin), coma, diarrhea, nausea, neuritis, peripheral vascular problems, skin lesions, and vascular collapse.
Sources of exposure: Air pollution, art supplies, bone meal, cigarette smoke, food (coffee, fruits, grains, and vegetables grown in cadmium-laden soil, meats [kidneys, liver, poultry], or refined foods), freshwater fish, fungicides, highway dusts, incinerators, mining, nickel-cadmium batteries, oxide dusts, paints, phosphate fertilizers, power plants, seafood (crab, flounder, mussels, oysters, scallops), sewage sludge, “softened” water, smelting plants, tobacco and tobacco smoke, and welding fumes.
Target tissues: Appetite and pain centers (in brain), brain, heart and blood vessels, kidneys, and lungs.
Signs and Symptoms: Anemia, dry and scaly skin, emphysema, fatigue, hair loss, heart disease, depressed immune system response, hypertension, joint pain, kidney stones or damage, liver dysfunction or damage, loss of appetite, loss of sense of smell, lung cancer, pain in the back and legs, and yellow teeth.
Sources of exposure: Air pollution, ammunition (shot and bullets), bathtubs (cast iron, porcelain, steel), batteries, canned foods, ceramics, chemical fertilizers, cosmetics, dolomite, dust, foods grown around industrial areas, gasoline, hair dyes and rinses, leaded glass, newsprint and colored advertisements, paints, pesticides, pewter, pottery, rubber toys, soft coal, soil, solder, tap water, tobacco smoke, and vinyl ‘mini-blinds’.
Signs and Symptoms: Abdominal pain, anemia, anorexia, anxiety, auto exhaust, bone pain, brain damage, confusion, constipation, convulsions, dizziness, drowsiness, fatigue, headaches, hypertension, inability to concentrate, indigestion, irritability, loss of appetite, loss of muscle coordination, memory difficulties, miscarriage, muscle pain, pallor, tremors, vomiting, and weakness.
Sources of exposure: Air pollution, batteries, cosmetics, dental amalgams, diuretics (mercurial), electrical devices and relays, explosives, foods (grains), fungicides, fluorescent lights, freshwater fish (especially large bass, pike, and trout), insecticides, mining, paints, pesticides, petroleum products, saltwater fish (especially large halibut, shrimp, snapper, and swordfish), shellfish, and tap water.
Target tissues: Appetite and pain centers in the brain, cell membranes, kidneys, and nervous system (central and peripheral).
Signs and Symptoms: Abnormal nervous and physical development (fetal and childhood), anemia, anorexia, anxiety, blood changes, blindness, blue line on gums, colitis, depression, dermatitis, difficulty chewing and swallowing, dizziness, drowsiness, emotional instability, fatigue, fever, hallucinations, headache, hearing loss, hypertension, inflamed gums, insomnia, kidney damage or failure, loss of appetite and sense of smell, loss of muscle coordination, memory loss, metallic taste in mouth, nerve damage, numbness, psychosis, salivation, stomatitis, tremors, vision impairment, vomiting, weakness, and weight loss.
Sources of exposure: Appliances, buttons, ceramics, cocoa, cold-wave hair permanent, cooking utensils, cosmetics, coins, dental materials, food (chocolate, hydrogenated oils, nuts, food grown near industrial areas), hair spray, industrial waste, jewelry, medical implants, metal refineries, metal tools, nickel-cadmium batteries, orthodontic appliances, shampoo, solid-waste incinerators, stainless steel kitchen utensils, tap water, tobacco and tobacco smoke, water faucets and pipes, and zippers.
Target tissues: Areas of skin exposure, larynx (voice box), lungs, and nasal passages.
Signs and Symptoms: Apathy, blue-colored lips, cancer (especially lung, nasal, and larynx), contact dermatitis, diarrhea, fever, headaches, dizziness, gingivitis, insomnia, nausea, rapid heart rate, skin rashes (redness, itching, blisters), shortness of breath, stomatitis, and vomiting.
In the modern world, it is impossible to avoid being exposed to heavy metals or human-made chemicals. Also if you smoke, drink alcohol, or take drugs (prescription, over-the-counter, or 'recreational' drugs) you may want to consider supporting your body's organs of detoxification and your body's natural detoxification pathways with scientifically validated nutritional supplements.
I have bought it but I don't know the recipe. It is recommened that you use it in the flax oil and cottage cheese mix for fighting cancer. It is creamier than the usual cottage cheese. The details are on the curezone site. Just type in flax oil and cottage cheese. There are some great testimonials where it helps fight cancer. Regards Nan
Hi Pauline me again. Dr Budwig was the doctor who swears by the flax oil and cottage cheese combination to fight many types of cancer. A great read. Go to homepage and do the search. It may save a life one day. Bye NAN
I had my gallbladder removed 1 1/2 months ago (I'm 28, healthy and eat fresh veggies/fruit and low fat anyway, what the bleep?!). I'm not planning on doing it for a while, but I've seen others who say they have flushed their livers after the surgery. I NEVER want to go through having another attack, it was worse then labor when I had my daughter three weeks before my GB surgery.
Like others I was not aware of flushing or alternatives to having my GB removed, and I'm slightly angry, but I had SEVERE pancreatitus as a result of the really bad attacks, and it was an emergency procedure (Don't know how true that is, but I don't know any better). I had stones in my liver three weeks later that sent me right back to the ER, and they cut a larger opening for the stones to escape from.
Can anyone tell me if they had any side effects from doing a Liver Flush after having their GB removed? I'm still nauseous and dizzy, tired, adn can't handle too many foods, so I'm going to wait a while to do it until I feel better, but plase post if you have had bad results, or even good ones... Thanks :)
Hi...I gotta run, but I just wanted to say that many many people do Liver Flushes than have had their gallbladders removed. It helps them, absolutely! No bad side effects. Even people without gallbladders need to keep their livers clear of bile duct stones!
I am nearly in the same boat as you. I had my GB out in October for a nonfunctioning GB which was full of adhesions and scar tissue (no stones). I don't think a cleanse would have helped, but I want to do my first flush for my liver. I am also having pain in RUQ still, and I know that my liver is screaming for attention. I just don't know which one to do. Any insight from anyone would be appreciated.
Thanks for the referral page. I am still scared to do it because I do still feel ill. I had an endoscopy done three weeks ago as well, and I'm on Protonix but I don't want to have to take this the rest of my life. I think in about 6 months I will be brave enough to try it. I REALLY am scared of having another attack, my doctor told me that I was so sick from it that I could have died from the Pancreatitus. I have a 2 month old and I want to make myself as healthy as I can be so I can take care of her.
Just a note to say it has been almost a year since my gallbladder removal. I feel MUCH better then I did on my first post. Baby just turned 1, and doing great. I don't feel the same as I used to, though. The doctors did tell me I wouldn' feel any diferent, but I do. I have trouble digesting things. They come out looking like they did going in, if you catch my drift. I'm now doing a master cleanse of sorts. And let me say thank God for everyone on this site! There are a lot of people here like me who need to ask real personal questions and talk about things I can't even talk to my best friend about, and everyone here is so good hearted, and helpful and candid. Thank you everyone for helping me when I needed it the most. I'll never be the same since I found this site (especially after seeing some of those parasite photos. ew).
I have also had my gall bladder removed in 1999.( Also unaware of alternatives) I had no complications to my knowledge, however I have always been suspicious of the fact that all doctors have told me that absolutely NO side effects occur after the surgery. Surely my body has had to make some changes to adapt to the loss of my organ. Apart from illness, can anyone direct me to information as to some general effects of the gall bladder removal? I'd like to know how my body has needed to change and how to adapt with it. Being only 19 yrs old at the time of surgery, I feel like my body aged afterwards. I feel like I gained weight (about 5-8 kilos) that my body has been reluctant to lose again. I may be able to attribute this to general growing. I think that I'll be taking the advice of others on this page and going through a Liver Flush process.