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"I do not believe that your immunity is that stupid. " I am quoting Gabe Mirkin M.D.
"When a germ gets into your body, you are supposed to produce cells and proteins called antibodies that attach to and kill that germ. These diseases are felt by many doctors to be caused by your own immunity. Instead of doing its job of killing germs, your immunity attacks your own tissue. If it attacks your joints, its is called reactive arthritis; if it attacks your intestines, it’s called Crohn’s disease; your colon, it’s called ultra ulcerative colitis; and if it fills your lungs with mucous, it’s called late onset asthma. I do not believe that your immunity is that stupid. Accumulating data show that all of these conditions can be caused by infection. Many diseases that were thought to be autoimmune turn out to be infections: stomach ulcers are caused by bacterium, helicobactor pylori and others; multiple sclerosis may be caused by HHS-6 virus; rheumatic fever is caused by the bacterium, beta streptococcus, group A; Gillian-Barre syndrome may be caused by the bacterium, campylobacter; Crohn’s disease and ulcerative colitis by E. Coli, Klebsiella and Bacteroides; and so forth.
There are luckily a few other MD with same opinion, for example a doctor in London that supposedly cure many type of joint problems with antibiotics (that other doctors claim are autoimmune diseases)
To not buy into such symptom diagnoses as autoimmune disease is only half the battle. EXTENSIVE TESTING to find pathogen will make it much much easier to treat. Yes an infection specialist can say you are extensively tested and do not have any infection, and tell that you possibly have chronic fatigue syndrome, fibro myaligia, IBS, sjogren, autoimmune ....you name it...all crap diagnoses (in my view)...names on your symptoms...great some fancy names, and some symptoms relif medicine...
Most MDs and even infection specialists clearly do not know what EXTENSIVE testing is...twice I have been chronic sick. At once I told doctors it had to be some type of infection...series of infection specialist told no infection and yes did many test....nothing showed up....but of course both times if just looking hard enough it ended up I had a chronic infection. It helps if the MD and lab read more of the literature...
ALSO I DO NOT BELIVE THE IMMUNE SYTEM IS THAT STUPID
I am the last part of a tens-of-thousands year long chain of darwinistic evolution, my immune system is not that stupid. If my immune system attack there is a good reason! I proved it twice... some times the immune system just need a little help to get over it, from the right antibiotic/parasite meds and or possibly also diet.
feel free to believe you doctors telling you have fibro myalgia, chronic fatigue syndrome, IBS etc.autoimmune disease, sjogren syndrome, Chrons ...may be your doctor even truly cares about you....the big question has your doctor truly ruled out other more logical possibilities?
I walk away from such doctors myself! If I tell a doctor I am exhausted and in pain I do not need a doctor to put fancy names on it and give me pain killers etc. I want someone at least trying to find the cause. It can be a long way to find cause, but seems like I found it...
I am convinced that certain antigens from stealth parasitic pathogens can cause the body to become sensitive to antigens which have been created to mimic human MHC (self identifying code proteins) Once this happens, antibodies will be generated against the foreign epitopes but have regions that attach to self cells. This is just one possibility, and there are many other examples.
Other than real genetic malfunction, the body has been programmed since birth to recognize self tissue\cells.
Many autoimmune symptoms which develop over time are likely related to some latent immune challenge. Shroom
several health food gurus (that claimed they cured many people) seems to claim Night shade plants alone can be one of main cause for gastro and joint problems in many people. They tend to suggest try 3 months without night shades and see if good improvement...
they contain Alkaloids. these can be toxins for many people possibly, and yes it looks like many people claim to be cured by simply cutting out nightshades, but yes they say 3 months to feel effect
I guess even these Alkaloids possibly could trigger immune system. So even such trivial things could possibly be misdiagnosed as autoimmune disease....if the theory is right, it is only the immune system trying to clean up toxins from nightshade vegetables in many cases...?
How can a medical doctor with any respect for Science diagnose a patient with a autoimmune disease before the doctor EXTENSIVELY (not only in words) have tested out if patient could have pathogens (general infection status blood work, and a few specific tests could miss out on many things), or if he possibly eat stuff that have toxins that cold trigger immune system ???
Infections, any toxins etc. can likely trigger immune system...and if we keep eating such toxins over and over again body will only weaken over time...but can you really blame it on the immune system that just try to do its job
Extenisve testing for pathogens + try to study what you eat and how it potentially can affect you I think is key to solve most chronic diseases...but easier said than done....many sound explanations out there, but little facts...but yes if it works it works, so yes that some health "gurus" for example claim 70 percent of joint problems are caused by eating night shade plants (or proceeds food that contains them) is one of many things a chronic ill person where doctors have no good explanation could try to see effect off....no one get sick from cutting out a couple of vegetables for some months...plenty of others to eat..
Extensive testing for pathogens, and finding out what food could be bad for you I think is key to curing many chronic "symptoms diseases"....the food part requires lots of studying and patience...1 week on some type of diet will typically do little...luckily there seems to be some good books and internet pages.
Recently there was a "breakthrough" in medicine, they figured out a lot of people with Chronic fatigue syndrome got much better or well by using a form of cancer chemo therapy....
they then "concluded" chronic fatigue syndrome not was mental as many Medical Doctors remarkably though before, but an autoimmune disease...
so now they suddenly understood chronic fatigue has something to do with the immune system
But why do this block heads then not think chronic fatigue that can be "cured" or improved with cancer chemo therapy has nothing to do with infection organism.
So first many medical doctors for years and years assumed Chronic Fatgiue syndrome mostly was caused by stress, mental etc...
And the way they figured this out was because they treated a cancer patient with some special chemo therapy. Not only got the patient cured from cancer, he also got cured from, or at least much better from his Chronic fatigue syndrome...then doctors tried the chemo on other Chronic fatigue patients as well (that not had cancer) and whoops many of them also got well...since they not have found the pathogen, they move to conclusion autoimmune disease...but where is logic? Is it not more logic that a lot of cancer is related to microbes, and yes immune system trying to fight these microbes, but some times immune system need help from parasite/antibiotic drugs and or diet.
Cancer IS caused by microorganisms, and what is really sad is that all of that is already documented quite well in medical literature!
The problem is - there is no money in treating a virus or bacteria which may cause cancer. Better to play stupid and then charge an arm and a leg when the patient gets gravely ill.
Here are some examples, which I have gathered over many years of self-studies:
- Pancreatic Cancer - virus
- Colon cancer - bacteria
- brain cancer - virus
- lung cancer - virus
- stomach, intestinal cancer, and some forms of liver cancer - bacteria (H. pylori)
- Hodgkin's lymphoma - virus
- non-hodgkin's lymphona - virus
and so on
What is interesting to study is - how we open ourselves up to those infections. That requires a whole book...
Cancer is a viral disease of the stem cells. Virus infects an organ. Which organ will be infected depends on viral tropism (a respiratory virus does not infect the liver but only the respiration). A strong host will setup an acute inflammation and wipe up the virus quickly. A weak one will tolerate a chronic inflammation for long time. Inside the cell there are only two possibilities: either the virus kills the cell and produces more virons or parts of it are incorporated in its DNA and the cell is protected from similar viruses. When stem cells are hit, the organism triggers another protect mechanism, namely tumor. The adult organism lost its ability to
generate stem cells. Stem cells are assumed (see links below), among many other tasks to secrete a substance that prevents cachexia. For more info please see on you-tube a presentations by Gershom Zajicek M.D, Cancer is a Triad [Tumor, Para-neoplasia, Cachexia], A New Cancer Hypothesis Update 2015 and many others.
It is encouraging to find at least one MD who figured that one out. Fortunately there are more and more of them who are waking up (MDs) - for those interested, I suggest you google for "the new germ theory".
Just as Dr. Ignaz Semmelweis was ridiculed, incarcarated and finally killed due to his belief in germ theory before Pasteur et al, so today's MDs and laymen like us are ridiculed for such beliefs. Reading about Dr. Ignaz Semmelweis is an eye-opener to how medical establishment works; it has not changed much today, except perhaps for worse.
In addition, we also have a problem of misdiagnosed infections. What I see on these forums as the biggest issue is that everyone is guessing what they are fighting, most of the time wrongly.
Rarely does one have a chronic condition due to only one infection; and even more rarely is the infection that we are perhaps aware of, the most important one. E.g. HIV is just an opportunistic infection for those suffering from AIDS (which is caused by another, different microorganism); candida problems are often just masking the underlying cause of misery, and so on.
Its a treacherous road, but very well worth putting all your effort into.
Read this post on what one hospital/ doctors in ENgland in Breakspear says about many of the so called hidden causes of diseases such as arthiritis and even an Asthma. They quite clearly suspect Blastocystis and other parasites cause such symptoms; read the interview with Dr. Monro. AT least she seems to know what she is talking about.
Hi there everyone I'm a new one here. Bare with while I'm figuring how to navigate. I will try to upload my scary creatures I've been fishing out of various holes in my body. I'm seeing numerous docs at large norca teaching hospital. They all say neg on samples plus I may b a bit loco, Ha ha. I've worked at veterinary hosp over 13 years just recently retired. Decided one final worming and wala the monsters appeared. Of coarse Ive traveled out of usa. I brought medical experts my great samples and they will not help. My vets unable to get triclabendizole. Not large animal animal vet . I've identified the obvious round whip and tapes. But input on the others are appreciated.
I have seen those in the beginning when I did the pyrantal pomate followed by prazi. I brought 3 very good samples (what I thought were great specimens) into the infectious disease dr. And her lab looked at them and said no worm no paracites and the we think your crazy stare. Amazed at the news, I started Internet searching and found this forum to be so helpful. I have my internal medicine doc and endocrinologist both from India say looks like flukes but can't treat without a positive stool sample which they are not running Elisa comprehensive stool tests just referral to gastrointestinal doc and infectious disease doc. Gastrointestinal doc told me I have to drink more water. Lol ! I did have an ultrasound that said I had signs of fatty liver. I don't drink any alcohol and eat a healthy balanced diet. I'm waiting for my endo doc to talk with his liver specialist friend and get back to me.
If you look through the pics on this site. I've seen pics that resemble these also but so far they are organized under titles that don' t conform with all the pics. For example the slimy clear long looks like one i just saw in the folder titled candida but under the same title there are other pics not resembling this specimen. It could be biofilm or villi. And within that could be the microscopic culprit. All i know is clearing these guys through enemas gives me relief so we'll find out. I've been at this for close to 6 yrs. consider yourself lucky you got this now. More people are getting keen on this. We'll start to get answers and maybe set the identification of these thngs correct. So this site wont be so confusing. Dont drop out on us. If find out send me a message.
Pics are being posted and still no real identification.
The second picture I would occasionally get now that I started a parasite cleanse. I had one come out last night that was 6 inches long, covered in this mucus coating. It took a lot of effort to get it out while doing Colloidal Silver in a neutralizer. I am suspecting I have lung flukes, Paragonimus westermani that is causing my asthma symptoms.
Hi I also have had many chunks of red pieces, kind of like the same type of creature. I've been more than "freaked out" at times. I've seen posts about flukes leaving behind red rolled skins which I've seen after certain treatments.It is good to hear I'm not the only human hosting this type of creature.
I have the same thing coming out of my nose. I have no microscope, but it can be that it has something dark in the middle. First when I have taken IVE, in the night I have overall, in my body, nose, ears, ect. itching. I have tried ive, abend und prazi, but the symptoms remeined. At time I have no more this withe things, but itching, movement, skin lesions, tunel like ways in my face and braun spots stil have.in the literature this symptoms are very closs to tunga penetrans, but I have it also in my mouth.I think, I am going crazy at last.
I suspected parasites over a year ago. Didn't see anything except for once and I wasn't convinced. This time it was quite obvious. Did you know, I had just eaten chia seeds with 'Progresso' Creamy Tomato w/ Penne soup hours before? Coincidence? That's my first assumption, but then I ran across this post, and i just don't know. I did, however, take a couple teaspoons of coconut oil days ago, and took some 'Capryl' earlier today, but wow... So, maybe these things worked fast, or maybe it was something i've been doing further back... All in all, i have to do something, and Chia seeds just landed a spot on my active roster. Have oregano oil, castor oil w/ peppermint, garlic/allicin 6,000mg (GarliCell) supplement, and a Enhansa Curcumin/tumeric complex (w/ NAC, Milk Thistle, ALA). There will be consequences...
If a person had a large adult or colony of tapeworms in their gut, they'd have to eat a trainload of chia seeds for several months to kill all traces of them, including the fanged scolex/head embedded in the gut. (lol)
Tapeworms are the toughest-skinned beasts among parasites. Their outer body covering (tegument) is very thick & composed of several membrane layers .
The only method to penetrate & disintegrate their body & head & remove all traces of them from the GI tract (& systemically if they've disseminated/scattered throughout the body) is with a combination of specific parasite meds (Niclosamide, Albendazole, & Praziquantel).
One tablespoon of CHIA SEEDS daily- that's all it took!!
Even the smallest teaspoon of chia seeds makes everything super slimy! Just try putting in a little chia seeds and add water. After 30 minutes, it resembles the whites of egg yolk. That stickiness is what causes those Tapeworms to be unable to hold on to your gut, intestine, colon lining!!!
I can see how this is possible, because Chia seeds aren't like Bentonite clay powder where it sticks. Chia seeds seem to hold their texture longer, but they will still be slimy. They are a tough seed, but still small and easy to digest because they get slimy, and don't get stuck. Think the idea of Bentonite Clay powder is to stick to things and force it out. I think that can be an issue to those that have a messed up gut. I feel chia seeds must be a wonder. We could be wrong about them doing miracles for our Tapeworm woes, but i bet when used in conjunction with coconut oil/caprylic acid, oregano oil, or castor oil they do the job. I did also take some whole psyillium husks too which are high in fiber. Ironically enough I read that castor oil works like a fiber, so i wonder if that makes it so effective at treating parasites. Maybe fiber helps force them out. Chia seeds likely hold a good frequency/ionic resonance. So that may have something to do with it.
Very interesting. Congratulations! Actually, many recommend MSM for this effect, so why not? Worth a try and if it worked for you, bravo! Stay on top of it though, and make sure you're clear for many months. Chia seeds have some additional health benefits, so no harm.
I literally had Tapeworms for so long that I thought I would just have to live with them! Imagine my pleasant surprise when I no longer saw their white segmented bodies in my stool! It's been over a month now. I am totally clear and no longer have bloating issues.
Just wanted to say again how others have suggested similar effects of MSM:
"MSM competes for the binding sites at the mucous membrane surface so that parasite find impenetrable and can’t cling to. Unable to hang on, the parasites are simply flushed out of your system. Take 10,000 mg of MSM daily for three to four weeks then 3000mg daily"
Dear Logan, There is no single proof that CHIA seeds can kill any kind of helminths. What you saw in your stool could be just the mucilage from the Chia seeds. Chia seeds are rich in Omega 3 and maybe they help you with your digestion. But please, don't give other false information and try to stay as OBJECTIVE AS YOU COULD because there is NO single medical article that states what you claim.
I'm a Science guy and if we waited for a medical article before we stated a claim, none of us would ever get cured. You experiment to find what works and then try to repeat it. She experimented, it worked, so now it's up to us to repeat the results.
You can use the scientific method yourself to do empirical experiments and determine what is efficient and what is not, then others who have the same problem can try to reproduce the experiment and see what are the results. Just make sure to use only one treatment at a time and that the foods/drinks you ingest are not known to kill parasites.
No need to wait for "scientists" or the government to tell you what is true or false, (especially considering that there can be corruption with omitted or distorted informations just to make more money from the misery of sick people...)
I have never responded to a message on Curezone until now. I have nothing but love and respect for the people who take their time to try to help others who have been failed by the financial medical system. People share what works for them on this forum. If you do not like it, this is not the forum for you.
The people on this forum are too smart to wait for phony medical reviews. @Logan I too have tried everything for these hardcore multiple parasites. The chia seeds are beyond amazing. They come right out. I also use organic apple cider vinegar before each meal but I have to agree that the chia seeds have removed the bloating. I have had 1000's of parasites. I too thought I would just have to live with them. I did Praziquantel(horrible side effects), Bentonite, Opti msm...Dr's Best Serrapeptase
I also take 1 tablespoon in morning cereal. I drink lots of water throughout the day, I do warm water enemas to remove the dead parasites so that a I do not become toxic.
Your story is very inspiring. I have been trying to cure my worms for one and a half years. They were identified at a Costa Rica medical clinic as round worm, but there's a multitude of stringy things in my stool each day and they don't fit the description of round worm. But who knows? I tried many different herbs and finally after a year I tried western medicine. Still I have them. I am still researching and experimenting-- in search of a plant or food medicine that will cure them. I have gotten a lot better at managing them and keeping their numbers down, and my energy up. Thank you for your story. I will be trying Chia seeds. But I would really like to know, if after all this time you are still rid of them and still think Chia seeds cured you.
I don't have a computer at home (by choice). I go to the library for internet use. I hope, if you do reply I can find it.
The amount of parasites that have been coming out have been drastically reduced. I will also say that if you have low stomach acid as in my case, it is a perfect breeding environment for the parasites. You can add 2 teaspoons of Apple cider vinegar to water 15 minutes before each meal or purchase Now foods Betaine HCI with pepsin. If you decide to do the Betaine HCI go slow increasing by one pill every 3 days. Have some baking soda on hand in case you get the stomach ache pain from hell. The baking soda will quickly neutraliize it. This is the dosage to maintain.
Also no sugars or grains...My energy has really exploded since I have been off the Sugar and on the Chia seeds.
Remember patience is the key. No junk food, eating clean...
I am not a doctor just a human fed up with the traditional broken outdated medical System that refuses to look at the body as a whole enterprise
Hi, I am new to the forum, though I have been reading the previous posts on the protozoa forum with such interest. I like many others have been so ill with a parasite, I suspected, and was proven correct later, after so many failed tests, that made my life a living hell.
I did so many stool tests with my local lab, recommended by my GP, and they all kept telling me I was fine. Sounds familiar, right?
Then someone referred me to Dr. Omar Amin of Scottsdale, Arizona, as he is claimed to be one of the best in the field of parasitology. The guy found nothing in me. Utter waste of time and money; then he tried to sell me his herbal products. Can you believe a doctor doing that? Amir too does typical stool testing and antigen testing.
Then I flew to NY and saw Cahill and Bang, within a day he found what I had and now I am on meds. and feeling already better.....
I called Amir to ask why he missed what I had with multiple tests I did at his lab, and asked if he was familiar with Cahill's method, and he was very peeved with my questions.
I thought I would let people know so they can stop wasting their time with such incompetent doctors like Amir.
Sorry to keep asking, but can you elaborate more. I have ascaris, but want a proper diagnosis. Did he find this doing his mucous straping that has been mentioned? What did he prescribe for the Ascaris?
I appreciate you taking the time to answer. So far, you are the only one he has seen that has received a diagnosis of Ascaris I think, so I'm interested.
Don't know if you still read this board. I saw Cahill a year and a half ago and he found EH and whip worm. He treated me, but I had multiple relapses of symptoms since then - twice since.
I recently came across a machine called the Metatron that can diagnose people, and it said that I have Ascaris in my small intestine. I was not surprised to hear this because there is always a strong pulimary phase when my symptoms kick-up. This most recent time I felt something moving through my lungs, and I was winded when just talking on the phone.
I did just retreat myself for what Cahill originally found, so I took plenty of Albendazole which is used for Ascaris. But I've read that a high percent of people that take Albendazole for Ascaris are reinfected.
I've continued researching ascaris, and what I found is that often the eggs can get loose in the body. When this happens, reinfection occurs and apparently antibiotics don't kill these wandering eggs.
I have since found a protocol by Dr. Hilde Clark that requires L Cystine and ozonated olive oil (ingested). I haven't done it yet because I also found that you have to metal detox in order to use L Cystine, because if you have mercury in your body it will make it free radical dangerous.
I am wondering your experience and if you are better? And if so, what protocol you followed for ascaris.
I'm heavily considering buying an ozone generator to treat myself.
It would be helpful to hear your outcomes and I also welcome anyone else's input who has experience with this.
I think I need to give it 4-6 weeks or more to feel better. I live in CT so I am about 1 1/2 hrs. away from the city. I took a train in today, my husband drove me last time. It's hard to say about the meds. I think it's how sick you are. I think my case is mild compared to others. so far, it's worked. But I can't say how I will be in a month or 2. Could come back? who knows. Only time will tell. If your out of the country, geez, hard to say. I like to follow up with treatments, otherwise I never know. You have relatives you can stay with in the states? It's not as simple for you, but you could call the office and ask their advice.
There is also another good lab called Labion in Rio de Janeiro, Brazil. I don't know where you are in the world but Labion has worked well for me. If nothing else works in USA, I will travel to Brazil and get tested at that lab again...
Hi, my symptoms came on both suddenly and gradually, creasing in severity, over the months.
at first craving for Sugar (I ever liked sugary things; so this was a surprised)
inability to focus
Not passing gas
rashes/itching at night
diarrhea, which led to much weight loss at the beg. and then constipation.
muscle spasms/shaky hands...
pain under the rib cage
allergies to carbs....; making me feel so heavy.... and tired, etc, etc.
I was perfectly a health person before I contracted these parasites.
I would suggest that people with these. Since I have two parasites, I cannot tell which one causes which symptoms....
Yes, like you, I am grateful to Cahill for this diagnosis.
Thank you I was decided I was going tibg see him. I had my doubts about him because he had a legal issue in local book store and the fact he sold products in his office. I am frustrated. I've treated myself for 2 yrs. I finally decided to get vermox it helped. Went to Dr. Here for rx. They have slapped a new name on it price was 2600.00 at Walgreens for 6 pills. I was in shock.The ingredient mebendazole is what I need. I am on fixed income. and can't afford all these treatments and herbs that don't work. Need advise.
This little gadget, MSR's MIOX water scrubber is a military-grade water purifier that will generate sodium hypochlorite from adding salt. The resultant chemical will kill anything in the water, including Giardia if treated for four hours. You put pure salt and a few drop of water in the cap, screw on the cap, push the button, and get the option of choosing the strength of the solution for the amount of water needing treatment. The device is highly reliable and easy to use and a great adjunct to Jim Humble's protocol. As a water purifier, it has no filtering capability and the more turbid and cloudy the water, the more ineffective as bugs can hide in the crud. So consider using a simple filter to descum the water supply but realize this mighty pen-sized device will kill everything.
That's interesting information btw. Could you expand on how you discovered this? I think this might be helpful anyone looking to collect data in terms of potential complications with Miracle-Mineral-Supplement .
PS. this is not a challenge toward your claims though the outcome of this discussion could result having your post moved to the debate forum.
I do not know: it was horrible for me; and I took it for a weal, and I started throwing up, in despration before I found out exactly what I had after going to Kevin Cahill and taking the proper meds and recoveing later.
No, Miracle-Mineral-Supplement did not do a thing for; I think this ia bad idea. I of course do not know what kind of permanent damage I may have done to myself.
Alright thanks for responding. I've been "trying" to collect information pertinent to Miracle-Mineral-Supplement use and side effects by others but this has proven to be quite a difficult task. My hopes are to compile an official source of information with regards to the use and side-effects of Miracle-Mineral-Supplement for others in much the same way that we'd find on controlled substances(ie. antibiotics etc).
well, for me it destroyed my digestion, gave me adrenal fatigue, low thyroid, liver problems, depression, anxiety, panic attacks, heart palpitations, inflammation through my whole body, crohn's, it was all kick started by Miracle-Mineral-Supplement . I think the only thing I haven't experienced yet is cancer, but I think I'm moving in the right direction and away from that now. No thanks to Miracle-Mineral-Supplement .
I did however feel good on MMS for the first week or so of use. But I think oxidation and chlorine can damage any part of the body. I can see your list of side effects being huge. I noticed it was especially hard on the adrenals as it gave me that burnout feeling which I thought was die-off.
I was a die-hard MMS supporter before I got so ill. But it turned out to be my biggest mistake.
Not trying to hurt your feelings at all, but you couldn't of used the protocol correctly. You have to really know what you're doing. Also, how come you didn't leave your name. That makes me suspicious as to why you blasted on such a miraculous product without having the courage to use your name. Are you an agent for the FDA? Hummmm!!!!
Well, nobody uses their real name here on curezone, and this person does have a posting history, which makes me think that their feelings are legit about what they think Miracle-Mineral-Supplement did to them.
On the other hand, just because they feel it did this to them, does not make it true. When you start to kill patogens and parasites, bacteria and fungus in the body, start herxing, and then stop, all you did was make whatever you issue might be.....worse. You weaken, and then ultimately make stronger and resistant organisms.
I agree that using Miracle-Mineral-Supplement properly is the way to get the best results, low doses every hour for an extended period of time seem to be helping more people now, rather than the quick punch 2-3x daily that was originally suggested. There were enough recoveries to back up MMS even with this approach, it turned many off, and the cure rate was not as high as it is now with the refined protocols.
That is great to know, although I have been blessed to be pretty healthy, I want to use this knowledge to help many people who are suffereing from cancer because that is what ended my mom's life and also any other issues that people have. I get a cold once a year and if I decide to use this great product, I am going into to this with the evidence that I can cure myself of ever gettig colds, flu, cavities, and any other issues that may come up in the future. Thanks for your post. I wasn't sure why the person posting was so upset with Jim Himble as he is truly an angel for so many people in Africa and other parts of the world.
Good fof you, that's very nobel. My mother had cancer also.
Yes Jim is a good man, what he is doing, without profit, has never been done before. I just hope it stays under the radar long enough for the data to prove it's worth, and enough people to be healed that the FDA can't stop it.
Griz, I think you're off on this one. There's far more evidence that Chlorine Dioxide(activated Miracle-Mineral-Supplement ), is just another Oxidizer with about the same (just a few tenths higher than AG+, on a scale of 3 or so) oxidizing power than AG+. I like Wikipedia but remember its just people posting the information(and people on unedited Health Forums are often ignorant and immature, overly dramatic and driven by paranoid styles of fear), so we always need to be sure of what's presented before repeating it as actual fact.
Chlorine Dioxide is the worlds most commonly used water purifier, considered safe by the EPA, OKed for food preservation and cleaning by the FDA, and many on CZ have attested to its beneficial power, with the main complaint being it's taste and it's power to cause nausea or intestinal distress(both a sign of cleansing).
Saying its a bleech is missleading and disparaging as a ploy to be distracting and not actually realistic.
ACV, in that case, is also a bleach, as is UV light, or plain lemon juice or H2O2(which it most closely cousins to, but both and all these substances are still regular oxidizers w different power levels). AG+ is only different cause it's a bit less powerful and it has little taste to speak of(tho you know about the AMA's work to radicalize the public and professionals against it using the same horrific styled language).
You know people have said and reported numerous dramatic and frightening similarities about Iodine and CS on the web, but the experience of others and the Science behind these substances convolutes those claims. (lawsuits as evidence-please)
Shrimpy said, "I tried it and it nearly killed me; it did not do a thing for; It will damage your kideneys and liver. BE careful."
"it was horrible for me; and I took it for a weak, and I started throwing up, in desparation before I found out exactly what I had after going to Kevin Cahill and taking the proper meds and recovering later.No, Miracle-Mineral-Supplement did not do a thing for; I think this is bad idea. I of course do not know what kind of permanent damage I may have done to myself."
And then Wicki says this where Wicki is one of my favorite references:
"Sodium chlorite, the main constituent of Miracle-Mineral-Supplement , is a toxic chemical that can cause acute renal failure if ingested. Small amounts of about 1 gram can be expected to cause nausea, vomiting and even life-threatening hemolysis in persons who are deficient in glucose-6-phosphate dehydrogenase. When citric acid or other food acid is used to "activate" Miracle-Mineral-Supplement as described in its instructions, the mixture produces an aqueous solution containing chlorine dioxide, a toxin and a potent oxidizing agent used in the treatment of water and in bleaching. "
This matching Shrimpy's symptoms when using MMS.
And finally the FDA says:
"The U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) has received several reports of health injuries from consumers using Miracle Mineral Solution, an oral liquid also known as “Miracle Mineral Supplement” or MMS. Associated side effects include severe nausea, vomiting, and life-threatening low blood pressure from dehydration. Consumers who have MMS should stop using it immediately and throw it away." Once again matching Shrimpy's symptoms using MMS.
All of these are bright red flags suggesting we should be VERY CAREFUL if we use MMS.
I want to warn everyone of the potential dangers reported by Shrimpy, Wicki & the FDA. I do know it is used by a lot of people and so it has some value but is not risk free. A lot like cigarettes, Pot & cocaine are popular but not risk free. Just BEWARE.
You would do yourself a favor to do a bit more investigation. This substance is just between H2o2 and AG+ in ability and power. As you know Hydrogen-Peroxid is rocket fuel, so any oxidizer needs to be understood for what it is. (even the much safer but less powerful AG+ has argyia as unusual or uncommon, but still real, as that is).
Activated Miracle-Mineral-Supplement , Chlorine Dioxide, no mater the ballyhoo, has the evidence on it's side as just another safe, when used as prescribed oxidizer, (people think nausea or Intestinal distress are reason why a number of things should be outlawed, and if their cheap and easy to procure and effective, the FDA is right on board, driving that Big Business train wreck of propaganda).
Your evidence is suspect for reasons that seem obvious to me.
Id say it is best to believe anecdotal info when it is backed up by a preponderance of similar claims, which this one is not.
That the claims appreciated but not being of a large number not be overly emotional or dramatic, inflaming vs informing and aren't contesting information given out by a reputable unbiased proven source, which the FDA, which is virtually beyond arguing about since we know that not only have all recent agency directors been former pharmaceutical executives or attorneys, but that the drug and policy decisions made by them have continually been biased towards the pharma companies and also harmful to the public. An oxidizing agent that is inexpensive and safe, as sodium chlorite activated into chlorine dioxide has proven over decades of use, would be, exactly like CS, an agent that pharma companies would work to demonise using fear tactics by their minions and public relation ability to confuse the issue with the general public.
If all disgruntled people can describe are, classic examples of oxidative stress, than the onus is on them to disprove the safety record and excellent results of hundreds of thousands of recent personal users, undoubtly millions since its the most commonly used water purification chemical in the world chemical, far safer then chlorine and with none of the lasting serious unhealthful affects that chlorine does to water.
#2 Anecdotal info ?
Really Griz this is something that is under your radar at the moment but easily discovered to be different than your presently inclined to think. There is so much evidence exactingly like covering up the vaccination truth or in an opposite but exactingly similar vein, the demonizing of Colloidal Silver , tho now the public and the medical buisnesses have found it to be too good to ignore so they, pharma and the FDA, lost that battle.
"They" still tell the general public with press releases mimicking research reports that, apricot kernels are dangerous(guess again on that correct protocols % of success over standard of care cancer treatment there). "They", these same types you are siding with here claim in every way they are able that all alternative cancer treatments are worthless, ect ect ect
Keep on open mind and seek out both sides statements of facts, compare them and I think you will realize that the poster and reports like his are easily understood and have no real evidence to base their suppositions of danger on. Its exactly again, not a question of reletive risk, its question of representing the truth of a substance or an opinion that is an uninvestigated immature knee jerk reaction.
I don't really care and I figure you don't really that much either but sometimes theres a line in the sand----and sides need to be delineated so that it becomes evident that one side is quietly being prodded from behind, "crucify him, crucify him".
Guilty Verdict reached
"A federal jury in the Eastern District of Washington returned a guilty verdict yesterday against a Spokane, Washington, man for selling industrial bleach as a miracle cure for numerous diseases and illnesses, including cancer, AIDS, malaria, hepatitis, lyme disease, asthma and the common cold, the Department of Justice announced." http://www.fda.gov/ICECI/CriminalInvestigations/ucm448541.htm
He violated a major rule by making health claims for his product. The Drug Industry does not allow health claims to be made for alternative health products. There were clearly some problems expressed by some people. He is stiffing the Drug Industry by selling his product to cure any disease. When it comes to the FDA, they are on the payroll of Big Pharma.
"Daniel Smith will face a trial in less than 30 days, the culmination of close to 5 years of legal battles, that could result in him spending 37 years in prison if convicted.
Because the FDA has not approved his product for health claims.
Has the product killed anyone? No.
Do FDA approved products kill anyone? Yes.
"According to statistics published by medical authorities themselves, FDA prescription drugs are one of the top causes of death in the United States, and probably the #1 cause of death among Americans today.
"An older study published by the Journal of the American Medical Association in 1998 stated that 106,000 people died from prescription drugs every year, and the CDC has previously stated that overdoses of FDA-approved prescription opioid pain relievers now exceed deaths involving heroin and cocaine combined.
Bottom line: We can't fight the Big Pharma Gestapo, the FDA will come down like a ton of bricks to squash a bug. Whether MMS works or not is not the issue. Claims cannot be made without the FDA attacking.
I have no doubt that our Gestapo FDA & Big Pharma are coming after our Colloidal Silver next. Big Pharma is losing $$BILLIONS in business income because of Colloidal Silver . We need to get ready for a rumble.
IMO, stock up on silver bars as the FDA may try to make silver illegal to buy, calling it a controlled substance. I think silver is a great investment at today's prices, less than $17 an ounce.
MMS is a wonderful product and has helped me and others in many ways to kill bacteria, candida, cancer cells. I am so grateful for that. However, it DOES NOT kill parasites in the gut. I know from personal experience and my parasite problem has been greatly delayed by thinking that Miracle-Mineral-Supplement kills parasites. I am killing them NOW with herbs, DE (diatomaceous earth) and a zapper. I am going for a very deep and thorough cleanse b/c it is clear to me that parasites have been the underlying issue of my chronic fatigue symdrome. I am using Miracle-Mineral-Supplement to address the inflammation and control the bacteria created by the die off of the parasites in my gut. People need to know this! MMS does not kill tapeworms, flatworms and roundworms. I KNOW b/c I am killing them now with paracidal herb treatment & cutting them up with the ground silica of DE. My treatment is VERY effective, I have been cleansing for four weeks and continuing. Parasites and parasite eggs have been pouring out of my body. I can hardly believe the amount and variety of parasites passing out of me. I look at my stools everyday. I should have done this years ago! Shame on the M.D.s and even naturopaths who are ignorant of parasitology and down playing the role they play in limiting out health and vitality.
We ALL have parasites. Hulda Clark said that no one she ever tested for Tapeworms tested negative, including herself and her family. Parasites are the underlying factor behind chronic fatigue, fybromyalgia, lupus, allergies, . . . all autoimmune diseases. . .did I say depression? Parasites are the root problems behind more than 70% of disease in humans. Look at humaworm.com, healthwyze.org, kroegerherbs.com, etc. Hulda Clark is the pioneer who was dedicated to this important work.
CFS is very strongly associated with toxic mold exposure, and will go away when the person manages to get out of their mold-infested environment. Please note that mold is often not visible and may have no odor. I had a pipe leak inside a wall and almost died before someone clued me in (NOT a doctor, they know nothing about mold toxic illness) and I got out. If getting rid of the parasites did not in fact cure your CFS, take a look at toxic mold.
I have attached what I've been seeing in the toilet the last 2 days. Symptoms have lasted 5 months. It started with what seemed like severe seasonal allergies, difficulty breathing/ feeling of being strangled, feeling of food lodged in throat. My symptoms have now progressed to crawling sensations in throat and feeling of having to throw something up, IBS, white sesame seed things in stool, sharp abdominal pain, food allergies, sore/ sensitive eyes, pressure in skull, clicking sounds. There were two days where I also felt what seemed like a worm moving in my toe. The doctor just thought I was crazy.
I agree with shroom. You're having problems digesting your food. And if this has been going on for 5 months, you are at serious risk for many nutritional deficiencies, which will cause a million different symptoms for you.
This is just one vitamin, but if you're low in it, you'll have everything from trouble breathing, trouble digesting, and trouble thinking. You'll even eventually have nerve pain in the feet.
Take a digestive enzyme with every meal. And then take apple cider vinegar about 30 minutes after you eat (no sooner). This should help you digest your food.
If you're not already, take a strong b-vitamin. All the water soluble vitamins are the first to be lost when you have a problem like yours. This includes minerals too, like zinc and magnesium, which we need every day. So take a multivitamin - a good one. Plus extra b vitamins, c and magnesium.
As for what caused this... hard to say. Could be something you've been eating. Lots of raw fish? Do you eat a lot of sugar, drink tea, alcohol or coffee? Do you have a thyroid issue? Diabetes? Have you had an illness? Have you been taking any unusual supplements or herbs? ALA? Medications? There are many many things which can deplete us of vitamins, even things which are supposed to be good for us.
Regardless of the cause, these suggestions will absolutely help you feel better. If you find that you don't improve, then at least trying these suggestions will give your doctor more information to go on. There is a bacteria and a parasite which can suck vitamins out of you. But it's not the first thing to suspect, unless you eat a lot of undercooked meat or raw fish.
Health and balance during a crisis is essential. The body can loose bile salts, which are essential.
I would supplement the liver, supplement the body, get a hair analysis, and check your pH on the tongue regularly. The first step in treating parasites is to get the body healthy, irrespective of any infection.
I find yogurt to be an absolute essential, along with citrus. Citrus pumps up the citric cycle and yogurt provides both bacteria and calcium.
Remember there are minerals, metals, antioxidants, and many other natural products that help re-establish balance. It is not as simple as taking a one a day.
In my experience the clicking sound are parasites (head).
I put fresh garlic cloves (peeled, cut long ways) in my ears, long enough, and snug enough to be easily pulled out I have great results with a high grade olive oil infused with tea tree, lavender, or frankincense too. Any essential oil will do.
Whenever I hear the clicking I put a drop of oil, and/or fresh garlic in my ears. The clicking stops pronto. When I first started this protocol, 10+ intact parasites dropped from my ears over 5 days, it was gross. I'll try and post photos. I douche my nose every morning with warm pink Himalayan salt too. I put Colloidal Silver in my nose, and eyes a few times a week. I've put wheatgrass in my eyes, and WOW, tons of parasites, they feel like sand in my eye, they burn, and after 'watering' the wheatgrass captured tiny parasites, sometimes it would stretch under my eye, only visible due to the wheatgrass stain.
Wheatgrass is actually good for your eyes, tons of vitamins, and oxygen, but don't do too many drops, the die off will block your ears for a day or two. Not for the feint of heart, it does burn.
I felt having protocols for my eye, nose, and ears were necessary in conjunction, oral, and the down under protocols as they move around.
I used to be a huge sushi eater, and let my dogs sleep in my bed. Despite having a super healthy diet, Genetically-Modified-Organisms /Gluten Free etc, my parasites were out of control. I can't believe the amount removed after 10 months from my tiny frame. And I didn't even feel ill. In hindsight the burden was so heavy, and I didn't realize it. Frog in heating water syndrome.
I haven't had a chance to revise the dosage & schedule for Praziquantel. It involves a major rewrite & my research work schedule is maxed out for such a project now.
Suggest you take 2 Praziquantel tablets three times daily, 8 hours apart, for 3 days. Repeat dosage in 7 days. Take with food to avoid nausea. Take the AM/PM doses with Albendazole. These meds work synergistically when taken together rather than as separate treatments.
Your PM to me:
"Hi, I was reading your parasite cleanses from 5 yrs ago. I have been searching everywhere for Niclosamide but no one has it or it is out of stock. Any suggestions?
Is Niclosamide necessary?
It looks like Albendazole is available. Praziquantel is available, but crazy expensive - are you sure a 180lb person would take about 2,000 mg taken 3x a day?
Since writing that message, I found your post with updated sites and was able to order Niclosamide reasonably.
FYI to others - shipping is from 10 - 30 days.
I did order powdered Praziquantel from a seller on Ebay. Price was very reasonable. Will be here in 5 days. I will have enough to take full dose of both.
I am going to do Praziquantel & Albendazole for 2 weeks first then do a week of Niclosamide when it arrives.
I don't know what type of parasite I have. There are 2 areas in my intestines where I get thumps and vibrations on and off all day.
Most of what I have read here suggests that that is Ascaris and so I got some Pyrantel pamoate last night. Took 10mg/kg and nothing changed. Still there.
I don't know if that points to tape worm, if I should take a higher dose, or if Ascaris is immune.
I know you are busy with research, but if you or anyone has any suggestions - I would be grateful to hear them.
This is in response to your PM to me about dosing times for Praziquantel. Am posting this so that others can note the correction.
Take it approx every 6 hrs instead of 8. That was a typo error on my part.
Taking the enzymes is fine. Your PM to Me: "Thank You! I was able to order Niclosamide
I can't take the Prazi 3x a day(every 8 hrs) AND take it with Albendazole (every 12 hrs). The dosing times dont match up. The worms in my guts are keeping me up at night. I wanted to order and take Zymex digestive enzymes, with the
Niclomaside (coming from Thailand) just to give the worms an extra hit. I need to get them out so I can sleep.
Hi ICU, I have a question. I'm using the praz and albendazole protocol on my whole family. I have a six year old little girl. I'm a little skeptical using this stuff on her bc of the dosing.
Has the dosing been revised? I've already figured out all of our dosage going by your protocol that was written in 2010. My husband weighs 207lbs, he would need to take 2400mg 3 times a day for 3 days, is this correct or is this too much? I do not want to overdose my little girl. Please if anyone has any info on this I'd appreciate it.
Also, my little girl can not swallow capsules yet, is it okay to mix the praz powder in with pudding? I know the taste will be bitter.
Last night, i went to the bathroom to poop and it wasn't really much, my stool looked clean, until i saw something black in my toilet, i thought that it might have been some food or something that floated up from my stool, but i happen to see that it was moving, as if it was swimming around in the toilet before i flushed, i looked at it again, but being really creeped out by it, i didn't get to close to see what it was and i didn't have my glasses on that i usually wear, but i stared at it for a minute or 2 to determine if it was something swimming around in my toilet or not and I'm for sure it was, it looked like it could have been a fly that somehow fell inside the toilet,because it looks like a fly with it swims in water struggling to find a way out, but i don't know if it was a fly, or some black bug or parasite that was inside of me, it there wasn't a bunch, just one was all i saw swimming around in the toilet, so i really don't know what it could be.
I've found these egg/seed like things in my stools & near anus after wiping. It appears to have a black vein through the center. Also, something is slightly coming out of from one end. When pushed on they pop like a pus filled zit.
I have been recently diagnosed via DGR labs with positive
H.pylori virulence factor vacA as positive and Guardia ssp. positive
I have written a lengthy entry here on CZ last year when I desperately needed help. Some of my symptoms are chronic fatigue, bloating, feeling inflamed inside and hot in my head, thirst, constipation, nausea, tightness under my right rib cage side,
I am underweight,
I don't know what the h.pylori virulence factor means. Could someone tell me.
As for giardia, what treatment options do I have except flagyl. I barely iterated amoxicillin last year and so antibiotics are last resort. Please share your ideas or treatments that helped.
I do not know what the virulence factor means. It might identify the strain of pylori.
H. Pylori can cause leaky gut which might be part of what is causing you problems, especially the constipation and heat/inflammation. Your body will be reacting to foods which are being absorbed into your bloodstream only partly digested and your immune system is reacting to the food molecules.
Colloidal Silver might be the best solution all round except that it is highly debatable how far it will travel before being absorbed. It might help with the giardia or it might not. It should destroy h. pylori which is the first thing that needs sorting out as that compromises your stomach and allows things like giardia to enter your body. H. pylori creates an enzyme called urease which it uses to neutralize your stomach acid which it needs to do to be able to live in the stomach. After eating protein you are likely to feel tired because of all the ammonia that gets produced in order to neutralize your stomach acid. Ammonia in large doses stops energy production which results in sleepiness.
H. Pylori creates a biofilm which is difficult to beat and antibiotics have difficulty in beating them which is why doctors use triple therapy to defeat them.
Try and get your bowel moving. Leaky gut causes a deficiency of choline which means acetylcholine production is compromised and acetylcholine is the major nerve/bowel stimulant. I use lecithin to help with constipation which can soften the stool quite well. Taking Choline can cause a body odour but lecithin does not have that problem. I tried choline but did not get along with it because it made me very tired.
Sunflower or Soya lecithin powder mixed in water with a hand blender works well. Mix up a jug and take regular doses throughout the day in water, 2 or 3 times. You might need quite a lot to get things to move at first but you might be able to reduce it once things begin to move. I mix 120 grams in 750ml of water and store it in the fridge.
thanks. I was using clove oil 2 drops in capsule 2 times daily for the past 3 days and I started to feel really weird and then stomach ache and so I stopped today. I read that clove oil is toxic. Shoot!
Yes I believe that Clove oil is toxic. I think it is okay for using as a mouth wash but I would not consume a lot of it. Be aware that if you do have leaky gut which you might have with pylori then it will put a lot of extra stress on your liver and might raise your liver enzyme levels. Therefore you do not really want anything that adds a further burden on your liver. With leaky gut the liver is having to work very hard.
Do not be put off by stomach discomfort like many people are. Some who use CS say that it upsets their stomach so that they stop taking it which is not the way to do it! These infections need to be wiped out because they cause many health problems and if my ideas are correct, some very serious ones.
BTW When using Colloidal Silver get some distilled water too. Then when taking CS add some distilled water to it so that it fills your stomach. That is important! You might be infected by other bacteria besides Pylori as there are a number which do very similar things like Pylori but are not detectable by any tests. I am fighting them ATM and taking CS gives me a slightly uncomfortable feeling in the right side of my stomach where I know there is/was a very large infection. That has diminish in the last couple of days and my iris shows a substantial reduction in the marking that was there. I don't think it is entirely gone but it is much better than it was. However there are 4 others which also need to be destroyed. The ionic CS that I purchased from Amazon is utterly useless and has practically zero effect on anything which I have tried it on so far, including a mouth infection. That is going to get a very negative review from me. I might buy a CS generator as it tends to get expensive purchasing the stuff, especially when the quality is so low. A small particle size is important as it makes it more effective.
I have been using elemental CS, a reduced Ionic silver which has worked much better than the Ionic silver that I purchased. It works for many hours at a time as I notice the feeling in my stomach when it is working. I was also getting a feeling in the back of my head ie the hypothalamus. I have Chronic-Fatigue-Syndrome and have noticed this before on occasions when using essential oils in the past. Those never really got anywhere significant and I did not like using them due to the effect they have on my liver, which already has elevated liver enzymes shown by multiple tests.
I am hoping that better quality CS will have a greater effect and finish them all off. So far so good but it still is not enough. Working with poor quality tools from Amazon is not helping TBH.
It's believed that Pylori is present in 56% of the population and there are other bacteria which are more common than Pylori IMO. Therefore you are likely to come into contact with them again in the future.
Do you think that clove oil may do a permanent damage or is this weird feeling and hyperactivity only temporary?
PS: I had a root canal treatment a month ago and I think that it now puts extra burden on me. I don't know what to do with the tooth now, should I keep it and wait or extract it.
If I was you then I would lay off the clove oil. If necessary you could break a capsule into water and use it as a mouth wash if you need to but spit it out afterwards and do not swallow. Therefore do as your school friends probably once told you ;) lol
If you get some CS then you could use that as a mouth wash and swallow it to treat your stomach and with a bit of luck the giardia.
Is your tooth causing any problems? It is difficult for me to offer advise as I am not a dentist and I have no experience of root canals. Is there an infection? CS might fix it if you regularly mouth wash with it.
BTW I have updated my previous post so please read the bottom bit which I added.
Hmm...Thank you man. Cloves are definitely something that I cannot mess with for now. I also took 2 drops 3 times a day so it might have been too much for me. It is one of the most potent natural substances,at least that is what I read, superior antioxidant properties. It might have caused a die-off but on the other hand I am poisoned with gadolinium and cloves might have stirred things up for me. I am on a roller coaster for the past few days. I also zapped for 5 days with metal plates so it also could have "released" gadolinium or killed parasites and fungi.
As for the root canal it wasn't even done yet but I went for extraction yesterday.
I have a weak immune system so I didn't want to risk getting even worse.
How did you get the gadolinium poisoning, from contrast agent? Did you have it confirmed with any lab work?
It looks like kidneys are where symptoms manifest so I would try to do some kidney work. Maybe increase salt, parsely tea, citrulline/watermellon seed, goldenrod tea. I'm not positive if edta chelates gadolinium but if so a safe way to use it would be suppository. Have you tried something simple like ascorbic acid powder or buffered ascorbates?
There is a product called ora-chel which is edta capsules. Maybe you could try a low dose or two.
There is another remedy for Pylori but it works mainly for blood type O - fucoidin. It also works on other types but not as well. Some people find gluten free helps to kick Pylori, or it's a necessary step.
Thanks I will look into it. Kidneys are susceptible to toxic damage but so is the liver. I mostly feeling my liver suffered a lot. I also have brain issues because of that and eye problems. I heard that extra is heavy on the kidneys. Is that right or no? Also someone told me that oral edta is destroyed by the stomach acid. Please let me know because I am all mixed up. Is edta safe in small amounts and how much daily is safe.
I already removed my root canaled tooth after reading about how bad they are although many people have them and seem to be ok. Perhaps I acted out of fear and made a wrong decision since it was the last molar. Are all of these root canals bad, do dentists lie to us. If bacteria are present in a tooth or around it then there should be puss around it. Please explain to me why root canals are bad even though dentists say otherwise.
Clove oil can inhibit glutathione production- it's big brother, cinnamon oil, doesn't have that property. I'd grab oregano essential oil and use it several times a day in oil pulling. The essential oils are similar to Colloidal Silver in particle size, though they don't leave behind smooth tissue damage where silver does when it encounters encysted parasites. (See veterinary studies on the effect of Colloidal Silver on the liver, kidneys, heart and lungs, old stuff. Good reason to stick to the dilution the other poster mentions.)
CoQ10 and the 80-10-10 or raw to 4 should help with those sorts of CS cleanups.
I have heard of folk using rife and zappers to mitigate the effects of root canals, pretty good ways to keep the infections at bay.
Read my post to you again, google the things I mention so you understand better. ;-)
Rife therapy, oregano essential oil, cinnamon essential oil, oil pulling, zappers.
In the long term just get the tooth pulled and oil pull with olive oil with as many drops of oregano essential oil mixed into the olive oil as possible, especially during the healing phase so you don't develop cavitations.
(As many drops as possible- aka, that doesn't make you herx/feel very sick. 1 drop per tablespoon is a good place to start, or all the way down to 1 drop per 3 tablespoons, and store the other oil that won't fit in your mouth for later pulling sessions. )
Root canalled teeth are very expensive to keep from spreading health problems.
showing clove oil to reverse chemically induced memory deficit and slightly increase glutathione.
I could care less about pushing clove oil but I think cloves are an excellent spice as well as cinnamon. If you grind your own spices the essential oils are much stronger and there is no need to buy expensive essential oils unless for some reason you need very high doses.
Volatile oils in spices can go rancid very quickly, according to some sources within minutes, so fresh ground can have more benefits than people realize.
A note about cinnamon, vietnamese cinnamon or cassia has stronger medicinal properties than true cinnamon and it's much cheaper.
Raw cloves are extremely pungent and a tiny bit can throw some people off just because they are so strong, especially pitta types. Boiling them down can make them much easier to tolerate.
Started having threadworm symptoms when on holiday, and saw a worm in my stool. Went to my GP, and got some ovex. I took it and the symptoms decreased for a day, but came back very slightly. I looked at my stool today and there was a worm in it, is this threadworm? I panicked and took my second ovex 4 days after, I'm not sure if I should have done this. It's really making my skin crawl :-(
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Fungihomeworld used to be a big time poster on Curezone and a few other Lyme and Morgellon sites. He photo documented much of what was happening to him and provided us with a lot of good information. Unfortunately we haven't seen any posts from him for quite awhile... : ( I miss him!
Looking at some of his old pics, I see that he also was having what looks like hydra... Have they possibly adapted to feed on smaller parasites/organisms we are infected with?
These are Fungihomeworld pics:
The red and green colors indicate algae that hydra feeds on:
Compare to internet images:
I don't know why I feel the need to keep pushing this.... Am I wasting my time?!
I love papaya!
I have no idea... without the proper lab testing there's no way to ever know... is there? There probably isn't testing for "hydra", but maybe tests for other aquatic organisms come close?
I'm not trying to say ,"We all have hydra", but some have something that sure behaves like it.
This is a long "filament",from off my skin, is wound tightly on one end, then flattens to a long ribbony form that splits at the other end, while it displays the red and green hues that COULD associate with hydra presence...
WHAT MAGIC DO YE COME BY TO GET YONDER PICTURES INTO YOUR POST!!!
You must be strong in your abilities.. :D
I have morgellon threads that are exactly like this that start out on the skin. this threat wraps around insects and bugs and even starts to mimic the shapes of those bugs. http://www.curezone.org/ig/i.asp?i=83344
I notice that my PH of 5, triggers the critters and they start to grow fingers and crawl on the skin before digging into the flesh to feed.
I do believe they are a Genetically-Modified-Organisms creation a true genetic mix of plant and parasite. They can start out as sticks and then grow branches that have three fingers that litterally..creep across the skin. They are airborne dust size and just creepy. They can look like dead sticks when dusting but are reanimated with life when they touch the moisture on the skin. I stopped using lotion and started drying out my skin.
The one thing I have come to understand is that they die like a parasite with the Kleen Green. I dust and clean my mirrors and glass, everything. and it sprays on furniture and skin, pets/dog, etc. I can not say enough about this natural and easy to make product of natural enzymes. I keep dusting and vacuuming with my heppa vacuum cleaner and I have had very little attacks by the threads once I found a way to kill them. Adding some eucalyptus essential oil 1 drop per ounce makes it smell good and kills mites really fast. I like adding rosemary to the spray I add to my hair after the shower because of the hair regrowth factor. I have lost a lot of hair because of that beast. I hate being the petri dish and band wagon all in one.
Really desperate to raise my PH so I will stop attracking these things. My husband and I got this from the hospital he was in for 12 days. Very horrible experience. Had to figure things out all on our own.
I check my litmus/PH every morning, sometimes if I try a different vitamin regimen I will test again in late afternoon. I use the low PH to guide my vitamin/herb ritual for the day, by afternoon I can either be energized or sick and exhausted. by afternoon if it is still low I will try another ploy and see if I have some pick me up by early evening. Otherwise, I find myself up late, wide awake until the early hours.
Each body is a science...giggling.. still trying to figure mine out.
I agree I had a lot of petrified pieces come out of the skin after the four weeks of Albenza/Ivermectin and Prazi. Up until just recently I hadn't had any for a few weeks. But, I just started cleaning my walkin closet with all my business clothes and jackets. I get the occasional crawling but I have a system that kills them in a day. Even made some bar soap with all the good stuff that works..laughing. became a chemist just to get what I needed.
I replaced my vacuum cleaner with a heppa vacuum with three filters and that cut the whole reinfection down to a minimum. Once I started using the Kleen Green to dust the house and had my steamer. I have to say there was a complete dramatic drop in reinfection. I bagged all my decorative rugs and removed all the silk and cloth plants over head. I have symptomatically cleaned each room and bagged all the clothes in the dressers and washed them all twice again and then I THOROUGHLY CLEANED the dresser drawers.
I was so use to gentle washing and hang drying my clothes that I had contaminated my entire wardrobe.
I find the whole process ridiculous and laughable because it is maddening insane.
Julie, what hospital do you think he got this from? My girlfriend got into a car accident and went to the hospital about 2009 or 2010 and got a strange rash on her legs and thats when it all started for us.
Her doctors have given her all kinds of stuff for her rash and nothing has worked, I mixed a few goodies together and put it on her, thousands of granuals came out of her skin which felt like shards of glass and now her legs are clearing up.
Both of us have been doing Garlic Oil vitimans and pumpkin seeds and threadworms have been coming from my eyeballs first which she thought I was crazy and was so pissed at me until it happened to her. I went to the ER off 14th st but that cant happen, you are crazy is all.
My husband is allergic to many things. Because they over dosed him and the trauma of his injuries that he had..They kept wanting him on all sorts of meds. Seriously, no history of blood pressure and they insisted on putting him on all sorts of stuff that caused his pressure to sky rocket. They were literally poisoning him to death. The rash has been a nightmare, because it is NOT a rash it is a parasite. I think Morgellon's is something completely strange and parasitic.
It's all documented on his medical records. The whole experience is a nightmare and I would LOVE to put it behind me.. and that can't happen until the systemic problem is killed and eradicated.
My husband is a bit sensitive about using smelly stuff.
If i could get him to eat the pumpkin seeds then I would be a happy person. working on that with him. the Kleen Green and scrub brush out of the shower seems to be working well. but the rash returned two weeks ago and it took a week with steroids to fade from the dangerous inflamed mess it turns into. steroids are not a fix it just masks the issue that he caught this infection and did not have it at the beginning of his hospital stay and now he does. steroids are hurting his liver and that pisses me off.
Trying to keep my cool about the whole experience. I am having great success with the use of pumpkin seed and papaya. Trying different combos for my husband to try. He has issues with flavors and gunky things. I am hoping to come up with a winner to help him out, just more work on the top end of things.
trying to keep my humor.. when I feel like doing a Rambo on someones face...and cry at the same time.
The hospital stay when my husband broke his leg and back on Christmas day. We were in the hospital for 12 days and by the third day the rash covered his entire underside of skin with welts. Since they had over medicated him and he was unconscious for most of the welts and rash coming out of his chemical coma three days before being transferred to the nursing home.
The hospital we went to was not on 14th street.
He never had any rashes before this and now it comes and goes and was contagious. That's when it started for my husband and I. The doctor's in the family medical group are associated to the hospital by the city name and completely cover up the fact of the contagion that was given to my husband. The nursing home gave him another rash on his knee different from the arm rash, or it spread from the arms when he touched his knee.
For three months I had to wash him by hand, changing the water for each part of his body as the rash grew, coming and going. I have to say the doctors were completely unethical in their treatment and response to his needs. He is allergic to the beasts and when I started to kill what was on him he had a severe allergic reaction. The looking them in the face was just amazing. Blatant lying and saying there was nothing. His arms looks like second degree burns covering 2/3rds of the arm skin. I have very intense feelings regarding his suffering and when I started to get bitten and feel movement and pulled out my microscope and realized we were dealing with things.. The doctor's had no interest in looking or helping. nothing. Even taking a round plug of skin from his burned and inflamed arm to find some relief. then to be told it was nothing have some steroids.. I felt violence towards someone that would add to his pain. Here he was in a wheelchair, unable to walk, healing and suffering and the female dog, told me to my face it was nothing and walked out of the room and refused to see the slides and pictures of the creature I had documented. then the same happened with the dermatologist. Blatant cover up and unethical. they disgust me.
I believe I have more answers to what this is and I am being treated for it. It is a Roundworm Infections that is commonly seen in Cattle and infects people as well. My Doctor who is in Riverside is treating me for all types of worms but not sure which one this is. I took my samples to a Vet and asked if he has seen this parasite before and he said yes I know what it is. I got so excited he knew, he then asked where I got it from and when I said me, he said he can't tell me what it was other than it is typically seen in Cattle and sometimes people. He did say my doctor was giving me the right meds and to go home and look up roundworms.
I think I will go to another Vet and this time tell him it's from my Dog and say my wife says its not a parasite and I think it is and see what he says. My wife broke her leg as well and got a strange rash just after going to the same Hospital. I have friend that works there and she has a bad rash on her arm as well. It takes me forever to see any replies to me using my Cell Phone I have issues navigating this site. If your husband or yourself would like to text me to chat about what works you can text my cell ninefournine area code sixthreetwoeightseventhreeseven.
"Morgellons is a systemic disease that has not yet gained widespread acceptance in the medical community, yet it actually exists just as AID/HIV existed 30 years ago before Medical Science recognized it. It is similar to scabies, which is a contagious skin disease in which parasites burrow under the skin and lay eggs. These parasites belong to the arachnid family. Symptoms vary from one patient to another. Others, such as skin lesions and a “crawling sensation” in the skin are consistent. Areas of the body where the disease seems to be most severe are on the hands, behind the knees and arms, on the chest and back. Other common physical symptoms are rashes and pain that is similar to fibromyalgia. Severe depression often leading to suicide is all too common.
When seeking medical help, Morgellons sufferers are nearly always diagnosed with Delusions of Parasitosis (DOP). Currently, there is no known test for Morgellons disease so patients are always told “it is all in your head” and are prescribed physo-tropic drugs and occasionally antibiotics. Neither provide any relief whatsoever from these horrible symptoms. The patient's family often believe the doctor and withdraw their support. Morgellons patients begin to feel hopeless and continue their descent into severe depression......"
Rest of the article here: http://lyme.startpagina.nl/forum/topic/1028146/colloidal-silver-only-known-succesful-treatment-for-morgellons/
“My daughter Holly has Morgellans disease which no FDA, BIG PHARMA drugs are available. My dear friend, Bethany, made her some colloidal silver water. Holly began using it as directed. She swishes an ounce in her mouth and swallows it. She also put it in a spray bottle and sprays it on her skin.