Flukes have shown up again. This is a picture of what showed up after doing mebendazole for a couple of days. This is from one bowel movement. They are sitting in the bottom of a 1 1/2 c mason jar.
I cleansed for 8 months and thought they were gone. I did a Dec. full moon cleanse and these showed up. I think they are liver flukes. Any one else have an opinion?
I am ready to spend the $300 to get the testing done by ParaWellnessResearch.com.
Has anyone had any success with them?
I read ICU's protocol on flukes from 2010. It emphasizes a positive ID before the pharmaceutical combo of albendazole and praziquantel. A failure in dosing can lead to hair loss!! Any success, anyone, with eliminating flukes in the long term?
I had multiple parasites when I started my cleanse and this is what has reappeared.
I am not sure these are really flukes, although you know better what you have been eating so i guess you have already excluded the option of undigested food.
Look, as i have said before, i dont think you got rid of them completely in the first place. Flukes grow slowly and you cannot have them again in such an amount. You can try parawellness but if you see them in your stool why do you want to get a positive lab test? The drug is the same for all flatworms regardless what type. I have done a challenge test with praziquantel and albendazole and i seem not to have any. If you do, i suggest to do mattk3's formula of ~50 days which is a lower dosing than ICU's as many i have heard failed to remove them completely with the ICU formula but had success with mattk3. You can find his document here. I know he also had people on challenge test for flukes with moxidectin plus (prazi+moxi) in low doses with success. The challenge test is to show you how bad your infection is so you can prepare for the 50 day period. The 50 day period deals with systemic infections, if yours is not systemic you might be able to remove them in a shorter time. Low dosing is much more effective plus there is no hair loss. I have been using albendazole in the same low dosing for almost a year and i have no hair loss. iCU recommends far too high doses of this which is unnecessary.
I would also do a challenge test for roundworms as they can be still in the background and they are famous for being very hard to remove, especially with herbs.
Thanks to both of you for your help.
In desperation I contacted my local county health lab. I took in the mason jar full. Of course, the lab report came back as no flukes, no worms but they didn't identify what it is.
I keep doing challenge tests about every three months with pyrantal paomate, mebendazole and frozen cod liver oil capsules. I have gotten some very minor amounts of small worms previously and figured that the mebendazole was killing them. This time I was really surprised. I too am not sure they are flukes. They are unlike anything I have passed before. I am positive they are parasites of some kind. I passed them for a few days. It seemed as though I emptied a nest. One large one and multiple small ones.
I will try Parawellness. Thanks again.
Thanks. You just saved me $300.
I keep looking at the picture that ICU has posted in her fluke protocol of clonorchis Sinensis aka liver fluke. It seems to be very close. ICU identifies 8 different types of liver flukes, then 3 types of pancreatic flukes and 3 pancreatic flukes.
We have another full moon in Jan that will also be very close to the earth. My plan is to do another round of pyrantel paomate, mebendazole and frozen cod liver oil then and see what shows up.
My problem is that I am hyper sensitive and seem to be allergic to most pharmaceuticals. Mebendazole really knocks me out and I am hesitant to do heavier drugs.
Whine, whine, whine.
Mizmac, i am sorry and i feel for you. Before treating my parasites i have been really against meds and never took anything not even paracetamol or ibuprofen. I was always sensitive and had bad reactions to antibiotics as well. After starting to treat i have realized these bastards have been living inside me all my life and they put so much strain on the body. Liver and all detox systems have been clogged up and so adding any meds made everything worse. Now that they are being reduced meds feel a lot less heavy and my detox system is getting better. They must be removed. Unfortunately, the naturals only work on a very limited area and parasites are in many places of the body. Also it seems to me that nowadays our systems are used to chemicals due to our way of life and environment and therefore parasites have adapted. They need hammer meds to be knocked down. It is only my experience i can share with you and it might not apply in your case.
Also, mebendazole knocks me out too, it is tough on the intestinal membranes so i only pulse once in a while and not every day. 200-300mg p day for a week is tough. The problem with it also is that its absorption rate is only 5% so not very broad spectrum. Take plenty of olive oil and organic butter while on it, and yoghurts. Albendazole is much better especially the liquid. Praziquantel is no problem as long as you do with food and take extra borage oil and vitamin E along plus plenty of yoghurt.
What i wanted to say is that my biggest lesson was to find out that it (parasites) has been a problem all my life and they really need to be exterminated until the last single one. It also seems like lower dosing of meds for longer periods seem to work better on parasites especially if they have been in the body for years. If your system reacts as if it was allergic this might be a sign that the toxin removal is not working properly. You need to look into a good detox programme, much broader than the one you use, perhaps. Also having yourself tested for toxic metals might be a clue. It might take a while for you to get it right but i am sure it will be fine in the end. Do what feels right.
Thank you! This is what I've thought too. However, I haven't been able to confirm this via Stool sample (twice now). Doctor won't prescribe medicine without confirmation, even after bringing these samples to the office. Really frustrated!
You may have difficulty in obtaining the pharmaceuticals from your doctor. They seem to be under the insane idea that a 3 day treatment will cure parasites. Many of us resort to buying meds from overseas.
Mebendazole is sold under the names of Vermox and Lompor.
I have also bought mebendazole from Australia under the name of Chemist's Own De worm. I used http://www.DavidJonesPharmacy.com.au
Not sure if they are still available.
I also used an herbal formula from Australia called vitaklenz.
Flukes can be difficult to get rid of so you have to treat yourself for months, even up to a year. Time the treatment with the full moon.
ICU has a protocol here on CZ for flukes.
MattK3 also has extensive protocols.
I have a blog and protocol at http://www.curezone.org/blogs/fm.asp?i=2289785. Lots of pics too.
Know that you may find other parasites as you cleanse. They rarely exist alone.
My personal opinion is that a lot of us are getting parasites from fish (our oceans are our sewers), sushi and imported veggies and fruits. Eat local and organic.
Thank you so much for the information!!! I've been dealing with this issue for 3 months. Been to the doctors over 10 times and spent over $6K in tests/procedures/labs/etc. I've even brought the flukes in a ziplock bag with me the past 3 times and I receive the same answer "We can't take those, but lets get a fresh stool sample", which I'm 3 for 3 for being negative. This picture attached is going to a Parasitology lab in AZ for "Identification", which I won't hold my breath because a previous sample was Negative as well. Will Biltricide and Albenzole work? (Pardon my ignorance if this is already addressed in ICE or MattK3's protocols) I live close to the Mexican border, so I might have to make a trip, but I rather order from Australia or Canada if possible, just concerned that the medicine will end up being held at customs...
Hello out there,
I need some help in identifying the round egg looking things in the following pictures. I passed them in 2 stools within 10 min, they came out all at once, and a huge amount of them!! What bothers me a little bit is that eggs from known worms like an Ascaris or Tape worm are not that clearly visible arent't they? Maybe it is a larva stage! Thanks for helping!
There were a couple of these in my stool. i could save two of them! Take a closer look inside of these creatures! Two clearly visible bubbles almost glowing out of the inside! I still try to figure out what these are and if the first larvae stage is related to this one. While doing resaerch I could find similar images and sketches, which came closest to the Tapeworm Pseuddophyllidea and Echinococcus.
The round things in the first pictures must be some kind of Hydatid or Coenurus larvae stage! What the hell are these???
Not sure if you're still here, hopefully you are... But I found this disgusting cluster of eggs/larvae/whatever the hell it is, that looks exactly like what you have here. BEHIND MY COUCH. I'm actually here on this forum because I, too, have been suspecting that I've been infected with some sort of parasite. So, I'm kind of dumbfounded right now!? I can post a pic if you want so you can tell me if it looks like what you've found here.