Refreshed: I’m just picking out some things that seem off in our thinking about how we view people...
Refreshed: I'm just picking out some things that seem off in our thinking about how we view people hearing and then speaking for God and whether there is any hope for them if what they hear is false or is interpreted incorrectly.
Me: And this is the huge key point you don't understand. True prophets never heard falsely. They didn't have hearing problems, God made sure of that. And what they heard was not open to their own interpretation. They said what God told them to say, that's it, and if a "prophet" messed up, then automatically they were to be considered a false prophet and someone God did not send. And that never changed!
2 Peter 1:
19 And so we have the prophetic word confirmed, which you do well to heed as a light that shines in a dark place, until the day dawns and the morning star rises in your hearts; 20 knowing this first, that no prophecy of Scripture is of any private interpretation, 21 for prophecy never came by the will of man, but holy men of God spoke as they were moved by the Holy Spirit.
It says it clearly there: "Prophecy never came by the will of man!" It never came by human interpretation, so faulty interpretation never factors into the equation when it comes to true prophecy given by true prophets.
And this discussion was absolutely not about whether God speaks to anyone today or not. I never said a word about that in this discussion and I don't remember anyone else doing that either. You and Rainy have tried to twist these discussions into that so many times I've lost count when false prophets who are promoted on here are brought to attention.
This discussion I thought was about whether or not we should continue to listen to false prophets or people who mess up when speaking a "word from the Lord" which are one and the same as I see the scriptures saying. But you don't agree with that. You think someone can speak falsely in the name of the Lord and it's still alright to keep listening them and they should not be considered a false prophet just because they missed it. Your position on this fits wonderfully with Mike Bickle's position in the video I posted above.
But that is why these discussions end up being so stupid, they almost always get twisted into something else, and that must be because someone thinks they are losing the debate, so has to come up with a quick red herring.