My skin was a bit mixed. I started out with dry flaky skin when I reached 16. Which could of been thyroid related but there was far more than this. My pituitary gland and hypothalamus was partly destroyed as shown in my iris by a black mark through both. I was not aware of this at the time, not for about 10 years later. It actually occurred when I was 12 when I had a very severe headache, sensitive to light.
I used some Aloe gel on my face which caused scaly scabs to form and the skin became extremely dry and tight. This was really severe and looked and felt terrible and was very uncomfortable. The skin would not heal. I went to TCM herbalist shortly after this which helped improve things. It never got rid of the dryness which did vary depending upon the foods I ate. At the time I was not aware of leaky gut, although I did make a connection with the foods I ate affecting things.
Have you ever checked your stomach acid levels? I read many books on Iridology, GAPS, Increased Intestinal Permeability Syndrome and others. I did a stomach acid test, which did show very low levels. http://livingfoods.co.uk/the-acid-test-by-philip-weeks/
Someone on this forum asked whether HCl fixed hypochlorhydria. I thought about this and noticed that after I took HCl I burped repeatedly whenever I took HCl capsules. The burning which is meant to indicate too much HCl only happened very briefly and then stopped. More HCl resulted in increased burping and took around 12 capsules to reach a burning which quickly diminished after burping. I worked out the cause of this and why people have hypochlorhydria. I started spitting out saliva while I was digesting protein and my stomach acid increased but if I swallowed saliva, I burped and stomach acid diminished. I then came across urease, an enzyme used by some bacteria to produce ammonia which is an alkaline. The ammonia neutralizes stomach acidity. Saliva is a source of Urea which is used by Urease enzyme to produce ammonia to stop stomach acid which is a threat to a biofilm. Stomach acid can damage/degrade a biofilm. Although they do adapt and can get around this.
Be aware that hair loss can be caused by poor protein digestion ie lack of amino acids. Chances are that you have hypochlorhydria and your protein digestion is very poor. Your stomach is almost certainly compromised which leaves it open to infection as the stomach is intelligent and attempts to keep it free of infection by parasites and bacteria. Unfortunately it can fail and be compromised.
Swallowing an acid such as lemon juice or vinegar can test this. Prepare some sodium bicarb in warm water. Then prepare some lemon juice or vinegar in about 100ml of warm water. Wash around the mouth to mix saliva and then swallow it. Then quickly wash the sodium bicarb around the mouth and then spit out. DO NOT swallow the sodium bicarb or it will neutralise the acid, it is only meant to eliminate any acid on your teeth. Swallow some saliva and see if you burp.
These infections have to be urease positive to survive in the stomach. Helicobacter Pylori is urease positive and there are other bacteria too. All of these bacteria cause leaky gut. It is caused by their biofilm which replaces sections of stomach mucosa.
These bacteria also compromise methylation processes because methylation begins in the stomach. Taking some MSM can be helpful as it supplies much needed methyl groups. It can also help reduce inflammation. It's helpful to take it with ascorbic acid (vitamin C).
MilkAllergy, thanks for sharing your experience! I know that this was posted many years ago, but if you happen to see this, would you mind giving an update on how your dermatitis is doing? Are you still able to keep it under control through diet, and have you figured out anything more about what foods trigger the condition? I would also be very interested in hearing from any other Internet People who have similar success stories to share.
Now I'll explain my own situation a little bit. This is probably going to end up being long-winded, but I always find it valuable to read the stories of people who are battling with (or who have purportedly conquered) SD. Reading their experiences is like a fun-but-sometimes-frustrating exercise of piecing together a really complicated puzzle. If anything, I've learned that (1) the Science behind these sorts of skin problems is severely lagging and pretty much all we have to help us are personal anecdotes, and (2) everyone's condition is unique and we're all trying to figure out what works for us. But, by providing a detailed and honest account of my journey to-date, hopefully I can provide some helpful puzzle pieces to someone who is going through the struggle. And even if nobody reads this, writing it all down will at least be cathartic!
I'm a 27-year-old male and have suffered with SD for many years. Actually, I'm not sure whether I should call it SD or eczema or something else entirely (different dermatologists have told me different terms), but from what I've read SD seems to fit the bill. The dandruff I don't mind so much, but it is the dry, red, flaky skin around the mouth that I struggle to cope with. When it flares up badly it makes me not want to go outside, and it always sucks when it hurts to smile or laugh. I've dealt with dandruff since I was a kid, but the mouth rash appeared when I was a teenager (shortly after I started shaving with a dirty razor - not sure if that was related).
I was always able to keep the dry flakiness under control by using an aftershave lotion everyday, but at one point in college I made the mistake of trying to improve my condition by using an assortment of oils, lotions and other skincare products. As my skin became drier, redder and nastier I thought that oiling it up even more was the answer. It was at this point that my condition got to be the worst it has ever been - large flakes of peeling skin coming out of the woodwork in gross-looking patches around my mouth - yuck. I felt miserable and my self-esteem sunk to an all-time low. After I came to my senses I was able to get things back under control (but not cured) after I decided to drop all of the oils and only apply (sparingly) the original aftershave lotion that I had been using since I was a teenager.
At around this time I saw a dermatologist and he prescribed me a hydrocortisone cream and anti-fungal shampoo. The redness seemed to only get worse, so I cut the experiment short after a few weeks and discontinued both. So much for that.
After doing some of my own research I found out that antibiotics are commonly prescribed to treat "perioral dermatitis", so I tried a course of doxycyline, and WOW. The red, dry flakiness got knocked the **** out after only a few days. I felt very happy and believed that I had finally cured myself. I think I was taking 100 mg twice daily for about 8 weeks. But during this time things were definitely not completely peachy. While I was taking the antibiotics, and for months afterwards, I suffered from increased anxiety and had multiple incidences of panic attacks. In retrospect I strongly suspect that it was the antibiotics that caused these symptoms. For this reason, and because of all the stuff we've all read about how antibiotics negatively affect your gut bacteria, I would only recommend this route as a last resort.
In any case, the dreaded red and flaky skin came back with a vengeance about a year and a half later. Again, it appeared after I grew a beard and then shaved it off with a razor that hadn't been washed in a long while, so I have a strong suspicion that shaving with a dirty/unhygienic razor is _somehow_ a trigger (and I have read at least one corroborating anecdote on the internet. What a weird mystery this disease is).
I decided not to repeat my experience with antibiotics and made a second trip to the dermatologist's office. This one said "a-ha, eczema!" (just like the last one said "a-ha, seborrheic dermatitis!") and told me to rub Aquanil HC on my face (a mild, non-prescription steroid lotion). I was skeptical since the steroid lotion that my previous dermatologist gave me seemed to do nothing except make things worse, but I gave it a try. And, viola!, the flakiness disappeared. There was still noticeable redness and dryness, but at least I did not have to deal with unsightly flakes of skin peeling from my face whenever I opened my mouth to laugh or eat a burger, so I counted it as a major victory.
After reading about some of the undesirable side effects that can come from long-term use of topical steroids, I decided to research other treatment possibilities. It was at this point (just a couple months ago) that I started to seriously consider that diet, particularly food sensitivities, might play a major role in my SD. I read about FODMAPs (a fledgling area of research that is backed by a lot of science, I should point out) and realized that I suffered from many of the symptoms that a low-FODMAP diet tends to address: bloating, bowel movement issues, halitosis. I gave it a shot and, quite dramatically, those three issues disappeared for me, which my whole life I had just assumed were normal (my stomach no longer protruded by 3x its original size after a meal, I no longer had miserable incomplete bowel movements, and my bad breath went away. Woohoo!!). I can't say that a low-FODMAP diet by itself did anything for my SD, but it did inspire me by showing me what a dramatic effect diet can have.
I did some research and found claims that people cured their eczema by eliminating nightshades from their diet. I realized that many of the same foods that people commonly report as triggers for their SD/PD are from the Asterid classification of plants (coffee, tea, peppermint, peppers - sound familiar?! Nightshades are included), or are related (e.g. most yeast comes from potatoes, apparently). I gave a shot at an elimination-style diet in which I avoid FODMAPs, refined Sugar and asterids, and the effect has been awesome. The redness is now only slightly visible (up-close and under certain lighting), the dryness is gone, and the flakes are nowhere to be seen, _as long as_ I stick to my diet. I'm only human, so occasionally, at a frequency of once every 2-3 weeks I'll eat one of the forbidden foods, and quite predictably the flakes come right back (usually the next day or so). When this happens I apply a little bit of the Aquanil and it subsides right away again. I've been doing this for a couple months now.
Writing all of this out makes me realize how fortunate I am, but obviously my SD is not completely cured, and I don't know how much of my success is attributable to the steroid lotion and to the diet. But I can say for certain that diet has had a tremendous effect, and my quality-of-life is much improved. At this point I'm experimenting with figuring out what other foods to eliminate in order to get the redness to completely disappear - the OP has inspired me to go get an IgE test done. Again, I'd love to hear from the OP or from other people about their experiences with diet and SD. If you want to talk in more depth about this, don't hesitate to email me: anjin65897 at gmail
Try the Whole 30 cleanse. I got S.D. on my nose. It started as a tiny red spot. Spread to all of my nose, hairline, and above my eyebrows within a year. I have a sulfur face wash, cortisol and Elidel creams. They work ok, but only a temporary treatment, and dont completely clear the skin up. Here's the thing, my wife made me do Whole30, and within a WEEK my skin was clearing up. I'm 2 weeks in right now, and the residual redness is steadily decreasing. I stopped using my face wash (when I pause the cream treatments, the facewash is pretty much the only thing that delays the peeling skin) 2 days ago, and the results are even better. Now, this Whole30 is kinda tough at first. Absolutely zero grains, zero dairy, ABSOLUTELY ZERO SUGAR, and zero alcohol. My doctor helped explain the dermatitis. The body has a natural PH, which is slightly acidic. The things you eat can alter your PH, allowing different things to grow. If you've got 5 different petri dishes, each with a different PH, 5 different organisms will grow. By restoring the PH, you disallow the Malasezzia yeast to grow. Google "at what PH do Malassezia grow?" and you'll find information about changing the body's PH. The things you eat affect the PH on your skin, and allows these yeast to grow, so seriously, do Whole30 and DONT CHEAT. I promise you'll see instant results.
I've had the same problem since I was a kid, and I've actually found a combo of products to finally do the trick once and for all. I moisturize my face with Yu-Be Moisturizing Skin Cream in the morning and at night, and I use the same brand's Lip Therapy balm throughout the day. I think the balm is as heavy-duty moisturizing as the moisturizer itself, so this has been a life-saver together.
I highly recommend you check out a product called Restore for leaky gut. The website is called restore4life. I'm currently using the product with AMAZING success. It's important to eat healthier (organic when possible) no sugars, breads, alcohol etc. and there are no side effects if using supplements. Scientific research and published studies got me interested, trying it and seeing the results made me a believer. I don't work for the company, just spreading the word. Best wishes in your quest for clearer skin.
Hey Peach, Ive been dealing with SD for about 3-4 years now. It started when I took a fat burner pill which had intense amount of caffeine and god knows what other chemicals. Ever since then, my SD has started and has started to spread from nose to cheeks to eyebrows to forehead, and even to my chin. I was wondering want brand and company do you use for the salt and the extra virgin olive oil. Looking forward to using your method! And could you tell me how and when you use it. And for how long do you keep it on your face. I mightve missed it in your previous posts.
Thank you for that I needed to hear about other ways to keep my eczema from flare-ups around the times when it's hot outside.I use coconut oil on my body because that helps keep it moisturized.I also use peroxide too especially when the blisters arise on my feet on top of my feet.
I have had SD since my teens, 20 plus years, tried EVERYTHING!!!! In the last few years after much pray and calling on God I found two products that work together to control the condition. Please don't dismiss this as product selling as one of the products IS part of a pyramid selling scheme BUT it is my life saver.
So I use Anbrotose powder (this site won't let me spell A m b r o t o s e properly???) Anyway its a M a n a t e c h product google it. It massively not boosts but makes my immune system work better, my skin firms up within a few days of taking but my face goes red due to detox. This is where the other product works, I use SALCURA Intensive, it basically has all the stuff we know works with this condition topically all in a spay that sinks into the skin. it supposedly is Osmotic so it goes into deeper layers of the skin, its non greasy and simply works WITH the Anbrotose. Do a search for both and please report back, I want people to report back to show others. You can get both on eBay....
OK so that is how I CONTROL my condition so I can live. BUT I still want to cure the condition IF possible. My new theory is Histamine, I use an anti histamine in the winter because for some reason hot air from air conditioners really destroys my skin, even with the awesome products I mentioned. So doctors have given me anti histamine (i can give the brand if people want, its non drowsy which is great) So I know histamine is a big trigger in this condition. So my hunch is this, SIBO. I think SIBO a bacteria infection in the small intestine is causing my body to overreact and produce too much histamine. I ordered from eBay a product called Atrantil which susposedly is THE natural product to sort SIBO out. I hope to get it in a few days. I will report back on if it works.
*I also am looking at demodex mites and have bought some 'horse' demodex cream on eBay to try this avenue. But my hunch is SIBO is the problem.
That sounds wonderful....but aren't they microscopic? As I am sitting here covered in cocoanut oil. Have been having this 'scabies' thing for 2 years.....doc just suggested that mayyybe that's what I had..... last week😡.....used the permethrin....and had THE best nights sleep in 2 years....so I have tried almost everything ...don't think they are gone yet