I am 8 days into a juice fast and I am not exactly thrilled about the concept of an enema.. I just heard about "Salt Water Flush"... will this do the job while Juice Fasting?? Also.. how often should I do this?? Thanks!
I did enemas while fasting. Once you do one, you will always want to do them for cleansing. THey make you feel soooooo good and clean!! The salt water flush made me gag and very sick. You also risk dangers in the SWF. I have read posts where people did not use enough salt and ended up in the hospital, or others had blockages in their intestines so the water got stuck... Enemas are safer in my opinion and experience.
Hi ALKALIZINGKATIE, your reply sums up my feelings about Salt-Water-Flush vs enemas. I tried a few years back to do a Salt-Water-Flush but couldn't get it down. I don't mind taking enemas at all. I find them relaxing and always feel good afterwards.
Having done both, I am now completely sold on the enemas. The only way I can handle swf is by putting grey salt in organic chicken broth. Unfortunately, you cannot control when the swf will go through you, and it can be a bit unpleasant. I just very recently started with enema (I used to be grossed out by the idea) and now I know a few things. The enema would have made my liver clease much more survivable. I did mastercleanse with salt water flushes and followed with olive oil grapefruit juice liver cleanse. Thought it would kill me. Try them both, you will learn a lot about yourself and find what truly works. A reusable enema kit is under $10 at most stores, organic coffee isn't too expensive, and everyone has water.
I am on day four (my goal is three weeks) of a transisional juice, water, juice fast - I am doing master cleanse and enemas and let me tell you between the enema and the cayenne pepper in The Master Cleanse - my butt feels like I made a conjugal visit to the local prison! Am I doing something incorrectly because I was stunned by the "soooooooo goooood" comments!
Sometimes I apply some neosporin that has numbing agent in it to the sore area, especially before going to bed if it is particularly bad, but I hate using anything with petroleum products in it, so that is rare.
Recently I have tried tea tree oil, since it seemed like all the moisture was irritating the area. It burned on its own for a bit, then seemed to heal the owee zone.
The extra virgin olive oil I use to lube the enema tip seems to soothe. Maybe try that one. Cannot hurt.
i found it really great the first few times i did it - so much energy, clean feeling after! it was amazing for me, and i was very happy to do it. i have no problems chugging things, so the swf was easy to get used to.
then i had a disaster. i wasnt thinking - on my rest day between swfs, i broke my fast - just was not thinking!! so then i had a bowel obstruction when i took my swf the next day. the swf stayed inside my bowels for 7 hours it was a very nightmare experience to say the least - very scary and uncomfortable.
during those 7 hours i tried everything to get the obstruction moving - exercise, massage, drinking more water, fennel tea, by the end i was chugging down olive oil like there was no tomorrow. finally in desperation, i took a dose of Epsom Salts (which my body cannot tolerate!) and two hours later everything moved through. needless to say, bowel obstructions can be so dangerous, not to mention it took my body a week to recover from it.
i think this demonstrates that you can never quite know where you are with the swf. some times it can be amazing, some times it can be the worst experience of your life. and worse, you have no control over which way it turns out.
of course, if you are taking laxative tea and fasting like in The Master Cleanse there is less chance of having a problem...but still the lack of control is not a good thing when you are cleansing in my opinion. with swf, there is the chance of putting your body through serious physical trauma, something that is very at odds to what you are trying to achieve by cleansing, when you should be doing everything you can to support and help the body.
in my opinion, enemas would support the body by giving a helping hand in removing toxins, whereas the swf is a forced purge. from my experience, ive found its best to let your body do the work not force it to go through cleansing that you impose on it. listening to your body when it needs help (eg by having a cleansing crisis) you can give extra support through enemas as required. plus im sure there are benefits to enemas (eg strengthening the bowel muscles) which i am sure swf does not do. also with enemas, you have retention time, whereas swf just goes straight through.
i still have not got the courage up to do another swf. i am waiting for an enema kit to come in the mail. i think this sums up the whole issue!
I am just wondering...doesn't an enema 'force' the purge also? Also, I have attempted a few enemas, have used the organic coffee (twice) and a warm water one (once)...each time, I had to jump up and get on the toilet! I could not get the whole enema in me and keep it there for any length of time. The second coffee enema, was the longest that I got it in me and then jumped on toilet!
What exactly would I be doing wrong? Because an enema is so not a pleasant experience for me. I did the Salt-Water-Flush also and that was not a pleasant experience either but it worked better for me. Although, unlike you, I did not do several SWFs.
sorry, did not mean to sound like i know about enemas as i havent even had the chance to do one yet! what i meant was the protocol i would imagine for enemas is to take one as and when required by the body (eg when having healing crisis or when not enough BMs per day) whereas swf you are telling the body 'you need to flush now'. especially the fact that swf is contrindicated when you are constipated! to me this says that swf turns the principles of healing/cleansing on its head!
from what i have read, the enema becomes more pleasant when your muscles strengthen and when your bowels become more clean (more space for water, more easy to retain). i am certainly not ecstatic at the prospect of my first one i can tell you! but it has to be better than waiting for 7 hours wondering if i was going to have to go to hospital (something very bad for me for various reasons) or even if i would die (i went into shock at one point).
also have you been using water at 'wrist comfortable' temperature? im sure you have, but it can be a common cause of discomfort so that is why i mention! maybe someone more expert can answer your question more fully!!!
Hi, the first few times most people try an enema it can be a bit "clumsy", difficult to accept more than a pint or two, and may be somewhat uncomfortable. Nevertheless, before too long, as you figure what works out best regarding position, height of the bag, best place to take take the enema etc, things get easier, it's more comfortable, and results are better.
As far as temperature, it should be about 103 degrees F at preparation time. Rather than guess, a bath thermometer is highly recommended. If you have a baby bath thermometer, that works great.
Here's a few links with some more information that I hope you find helpful, followed by a position that I find quite comfortable, especially when taking an enema while lying in bed.
Thank you for your advice. I do have a difficulty though because if I am not right next to the toilet, I would have a mess all over!
I have not been able to "hold the water (with coffee or plain water)" in me long enough for it to be effective. What comes out is just the water...mostly. One time, I was able to hold it until all the water entered me, then I could not hold it longer. So, do you have suggestions on that? I will look at links you refer also.
As for a baby bath therometer or (baby anything :-)), nope. My 'baby' will be 19 this year.
Hi B2, make sure the bag is not suspended too high or the pressure of the water will cause discomfort and cramping. Try about 2 feet above the level of your hips and see how that works.
If you are taking the enema while lying on your back on the bathroom floor, it will be much more comfortable if you have an exercise pad to lie on, and a pillow might help too.
Position the shutoff on the tubing such that you can reach it without stretching, and just let a few ounces in at a time until you start to feel full, then clamp off the flow. If you start to cramp, breath rapidly with short shallow breaths. Pant like a dog was the way I was taught.
After a minute or so, release the shutoff. While the water is flowing take slow deep breaths and stop the flow again whenever you wish. Don't rush. Continue taking a few ounces at a time until you have taken the desired amount. You should be able to take about a quart during first few enemas if you go slow. Try a few ounces more each time, and gradually you should be able to work your way up to a full bag (2 qts is the standard size in the US).
During a fast, I'd suggest just using salt solution for your enemas with 1 teaspoon of Sea Salt or non-iodized table salt for each pint of water, or 4 teaspoons for a full bag.
I have done it on the bathroom floor with a pillow under my head. LOL I am sure if anyone ever walked into my home then, it would be a sight!
At any rate, I do have the clamp near me, because of the pressure thing, yet I did not think (or was not told) to just take it a couple ounces at a time. I think that will be a huge help, along with the breathing method.
I was told though, when I first purchased the enema kit that I want to keep the water in me, for as little (if possible) as 20 minutes, for it to be most effective. Do you feel that is a reasonable time? Or would you say more or less? I do understand it is better longer, to be more effective. I just wonder if it is effective, if all I am able to do is 10 minutes? BTW, if I make it 10 minutes, I have done very good!!!
Hi B2, 10 minutes is more than enough in my opinion. I think 20 minutes might be too long. Others may differ in their opinions and I would be interested to hear their recommendations.
Typically, if I am just taking a single salt solution enema, I'll usually retain it for 3-5 minutes before evacuating. As you become more comfortable and more confident with the procedure, you will learn what is best for your body.
Listen to your body. If something doesn't feel right, it probably isn't. Start off slowly and make small incremental steps. In no time you will be in a position where you will be able to offer advice to others starting out.
How long should the retention be? Well it depend on the solution, the temperature and the volume.
I cannot retain a 2 quart soapsuds enema more than 3 or 4 minutes, a 2 quart saline solution over 10 minutes, an acidic (acv or lemon juice) enema over 1 minute. However I have retained a 2 quart saline solution after my normal BM for over 15 minutes. 2 cup coffee enemas I retain for 20 minutes. A one quart coffee enema I usually try to retain for 20 minutes. I hope that this gives you an idea of what others do.
Hi Propaul, those enema retention times you listed sound reasonable, and are probably good guidelines for people looking for looking for recommendations on how long to retain an enema in order to achieve best results.
When I was growing up and my mom would give us enemas she always prepared them by swishing a bar of Ivory soap in a pitcher of warm water. After we had taken the required amount she had a little 3 minute egg timer, the type like an hourglass with sand that takes 3 minutes to empty. If we weren't very constipated we would only have to hold it for the time it took for the sand to empty once.
Even though we could watch the sand dropping, it seemed like time was standing still. On some occasions we had to endure 2 or even 3 turns of the little hourglass. That was the worst part of the entire enema!
I had a pretty bad experience with SWF. After the first 4 to five days I felt amazing with a visit to the toilet within 30 mins of finishing the salt water drink. By the second week i felt very congested and bloated and constipated and i had to stop by the third week as i started getting anxiety and depression and even my libido was suffering (never suffered from any of them previously).
The person who told me about the Salt-Water-Flush basically said to do it everyday so thats what I planned to do and followed his orders - .95 litres of water with two teaspoons of Himalayan rock salt every morning on an empty stomach.
I wasn't detoxing at the time but my diet is very good with lots of vegies, wheat free, dairy free, Sugar free. i do eat a fair bit of protein so maybe that had something to do with it.
I was feeling so average as a result that i went to my doctor who happens to have a holistic approach to his practice and my thyroid TSH had risen and testosterone levels had dropped. I had only had a similar test 3 months previous to starting the Salt-Water-Flush and the difference was noticeable.
has anyone had similar side effects or heard of anything like this??
Any feedback would be appreciated!