It looks like my tooth was real close to my sinus cavity. I've now got a hole going from my empty socket to my sinus. (This all started as just a simple crown). This appears to be one of the complications with removing upper molars. I found this on the web:
"A hole in the sinus during removal of an upper molar. A small hole will usually close up by itself in a few weeks but may require additional surgery if it doesnít heal spontaneously."
My dentist said this will usually heal up on it's own. I'm not exactly sure why, but he put me on 500MGs of Penicillin for seven days. Plus, he told me to take Sudafed for my sinuses.
I don't want to take the Penicillin but I'm worried about some kind of infection due to the hole going to my sinus.
When my dentist sent me home he wasn't sure if I had a hole in my sinus. When I got home I removed the gauze (after about two hours) and tried to swallow some saliva. This created some kind of suction. I could hear/feel a whistling sound coming from the empty socket. I immediately called my dentist and told him I was positive there was a hole in my sinus. He told me he was going to have me see an oral surgeon ASAP. They couldn't find one that was available today so they're going to set something up for tomorrow.
So anyway, this hole is really freaking me out. I'm afraid it's not going to close up if I keep sucking air through it. (I'm doing everything I can not to) I'm also concerned this is going to mess with the healing process of the socket. I'm also unsure what to do about the antibiotic.
So has anyone every had this happen to them or heard of it happening? How worried should I be and do I really need to take the antibiotic? I don't know if the hole could cause some kind of infection. I just don't know what to do at this point.
yep! thats exactly what happened to me! it was VERY painful. they give you the pennicillin because an infection in the sinus can be very serious. the sinus is NOT supposed to be open into the mouth.
as i said before i used Colloidal Silver and it saved my life on this one. i put the silver in my mouth and actually allowed it to leak thru up into my sinus cavity and then drain back down into my mouth. everytime i did this the pain subsided. i also packed some gauze soaked in tea tree oil in there. but it was the silver that did the job.
if you don't have any silver, i would get some today, don't wait till complications develop. do you hvae a silver maker? are you unsure or wary of the CS protocol? why not ask on the Colloidal Silver forum about this? this is a pretty serious deal, if things go fine, cool. but this has the potential for serious complications. i don't mean to scare you, just trying to get you to take the necessary precautions.
the CS is not just an anti-biotic. it also dramatically accelerates tissue regeneration. its exactly what you need.
i'll tell you what, email me privately and i will send you some free of charge, no strings attached. just email me a po box or something and i will mail it out thursday (i will be too busy to do it tommorow). i am entirely serious. i have the whole set up to make it, it won't cost me but a few cents to crank out a bottle for you. let me know.
10 ppm is good, altho i have no clue if that brand is quality or not. someone else may know.
you can try different things with it. you can soak some gauze in it and pack it in there. you can try applying some directly to the area with an eye dropper. you can drink some, several times throughout the day. you can swish some (gently) around in your mouth. experiment and see what seems to help the most.
does water drain from your nasal passages, into your sinus cavity, and then into your mouth? if so then you can add just a bit of Sea Salt to the CS and then pour it directly into your nose, then allow it to drain thru your sinus and into your mouth. if you don't add some salt, the solution iwll burn your nose. it wont do you harm, but it iwll be uncomfortable. you need to get the whole area sterilized and coated with the healing silver solution. the more the better.
well, you could certainly try the cayenne oil and see how that feels. it should help, might get a bit hot tho!
if i remember correctly, my nasal passages drained into my sinus cavities which in turn drained into my mouth when i was dealing with what you are dealing with. but i think each situation is unique, so that might not be true for you. i think keeping the nasal passages nice and sterile during this time would be a good idea, regardless of where they drain into.
I too had a hole in my sinus after tooth extraction, a rather large one - he placed some collagen piece to allow for bone growth but apparently my body rejected it (it was painful removing it because the sinus were attaching to that piece).
The bone apparently never grew in that area, it looks like the hole closed up with a thin layer of skin and now the sinus has a drop on that area which may allow for bacteria growth in that area.
I always spray Colloidal Silver , never had any pain but I'm gonna see if I can get an oral surgeon fix that area if its possible.
Sometimes I can taste the food in my sinuses and dripped onto my throat. Eating spicy foods was incredibly uncomfortable as the cayenne seeped onto the sinus.
My dentist told me not to do a nasal rinse until the area has healed.
He didn't seem too concerned (I wonder why? LOL!). He said this problem isn't uncommon do to the close proximity of the sinus and the upper molars. He said most of these cases heal on there own without any complications. If the hole doesn't close up then he said he'll have to do a minor surgery to close it with gum tissue. He said the next three weeks are critical to the healing process and I need to make sure I don't blow out the socket by sneezing, using a straw, rinsing my mouth with a lot of pressure, etc. He said the antibiotics are to insure I don't get a sinus infection because an infection right now will prevent the hole from healing.
I can't pull any air through the socket anymore so I think the blood clot has everything sealed up. I just need to be real careful. I'm going to continue to rinse with Hydrogen-Peroxid and CS.
Can anyone think of anything else I can do to help the healing?
Your idea about using cayenne oil (powder is even better) was a great one. It does sting sometimes, but it is a phenomenal (sp?) healer for sterilizing and rapidly closing even large gaping wounds.
Still, if you are satisfied that your CS is working well on the hole itself, why not go the extra step & use your cayenne as an immune booster. Meanwhile, if you've had to start on anti-biotics - don't forget some probiotics to help offset their damage to your gut! I'm sure you don't want to trade in one problem for another!
I had a tooth extracted on Monday and the surgeon told me I had a small opening into my sinus cavity. What he did was cut the gum, flapped it over the hole left by the tooth, and stitched me up. No pain so far, no draining. It cannot drain into my mouth cause my tooth hole is closed.
I went to a dental clinic this week to have my remaining teeth pulled and get denture. I was told that my teeth were in the sinus cavity as well. I am going to have to return as they will not remove them unless I am sedated. I have never heard of this until now but it is good to take the antibiotics because it increases the chance of a faster healing processs. I would not panic just do what you have been doing and after seeing the oral surgeon he will be sure to see if there is a need for sutures. I dread having mine done but since this is a problem that has recently been assigned to a use of a oral surgeon I think it will be ok. So I would just try to not think about it for the time being until you are at the surgeon's office. If necessary they will put the sutures and it should be fine. I also saw on a dental web page that this is also common occurance and most of the time it will heal on it's own. Hope this makes you feel a little better.
i had an 3rd molar extracted and wasn't extracted properly and yes the Dr. did put a hole in my sinus last September and has been negligent to help me, i went back with a sinus infection right after it got infected, they denied it. i have proof in the cat scans i got from my ent. He also left me a root to rot, so the infection had plenty of food from my mouth. the a**ho** says he wont help me until the ENT prob does whatever or a sinus surgery, they are all a**ho**s. i hope they die. Crooks the Dentists, the oral surgeons and the ENTs of Morris county NJ should rot in hell as far as im concerned. So I got a extraction with bad closure and an infection since last October and 2 ent visits and a second visit to the oral surgeon, he takes out the the part he left behind now that his blunder was partially healed. I saw him recently after i saw my lawyer. I will see what the ent says, I dont think a sinus surgery can help me much, if it went it away after a surgery i will clap hands and eat my words, but i have big doubts. at least the pain went down some at the end of the year, the feeling and loss will never be the same though. i still feel like something is missing in my mouth and also it throbs a little, i just want to get better its not about the money, but these f***ers should pay for what they have done to me. damned rich people!
well this happen to me today i cant drink anything with out it going through my nose. air keep coming in through my nose and out my tooth it sucks really bad and i is very painful they can not get me in to a doc until Friday so i don't know what i am going to do. it all happen kind like yours did the dentist did not no i had left and had to return... if i would have not return i don't know what would have happened to me i noticed it all when i was sitting there and my gauze got full and the blood and spit started running out of my nose i was around a lot of people so it was really embarrassing.thank goodness i decided to return to the clinic... so now i await my surgery i cant wait till its over.
Can someone give me some advise or some answers? I had an upper tooth (molar) removed back in October of last year. The oral surgeon said that the roots had made a small hole in my sinus when he removed the tooth...said he patched it with ? (can't remember)and it should be fine...I went back several times w/sinus infections on that side and he looked at it and did some kind of test where he pinches my nose and I try and blow it with my mouth open (weird), said he didn't hear any air. I've had nothing but problems ever since. I have constant sinus infections on that one side and when I lay down at night I can't breathe if I lay on that particular side....I'm constantly blowing my nose because there's always stuff up there. My dentist looked at my x-rays, and said that I might should see an ENT that there was "something going on up there", and that if I went back to the oral surgeon, he might make a bigger mess than I have already. Don't know what to do, or who to go see, but the past 4 days my forehead, bridge of my nose, between my eyes and behind my eyes have killed me. Pain relievers take the edge off of it (combined w/caffine), but then it comes back, and my forehead feels sooo sore and tender and feels almost swollen.
Sounds like you now have sinus issues related to that hole in your sinus cavity.
When I ended up with a hole in my sinus after an extraction I went ahead and took their anti-biotics to prevent a possible infection. I also sprayed Colloidal Siver up my nose. I haven't had any issues and I assume everything healed up. You might have to see a sinus specialist. Have you tried Colloidal Silver ?
When I had my wisdom teeth extracted by a highly rated oral surgeon in the city, he told me that sometimes sinuses get punctured in the process and you may have wheezing,and feel like you have more air going your sinuses and IF this happens then be sure to use a nasal spray to keep your sinuses clean I prefer collodial silver and peppermint spray. He then said, if your sinuses have a perforation , and that eventually the tissue will just naturally grow back! This seemed odd to me, you think they would stitch it up . Anyhow, I was lucky I didn't have hole in my sinuses
i am going through it now just had surgery to close hole using tissue from gums. it wasnt completly successful but did close some. now i have to see ear nose & throat dr. to close the rest since im diabetic. I'm now on 3rd round of antibiotics & still have severe pain & swelling so dont waste time call your dentist asap & good luck to ya.
I had the same thing happen about 2-3 years ago after having all 4 of my wisdom teeth removed at the same time. A very long story short.. After the extraction of all 4 and waking up from anesthesia I could tell something wasn't right. I told my surgeon whom did the procedure rfht away after getting home. I too had the fistula from my top socket going into my sinus opened. It started to become very painful after several days and the surgeon finally got me in to see me again. The pain was so bad he prescribed my Oxycodone PRN every 4-6 hours and also packed it with gauze and clove oil (which only helped for about 30 minutes) Another day or two went by and pain continued and my face began to swell on the right side (where fistula was). I'm also a type 1 diabetic so the infection I ended up getting in my sinus cavity between the socket and my nasal cavity caused massive swelling and pain. It screwed my blood sugars up and I ended up spending 8 days in the hospital for IV antibiotics and pain management. They were giving me 4mg of Dilaudid (Hydromorphone) every 4 hours to help ease the pain. Yet after being on IV antibiotics and the strong pain meds for 8 days it was quite an expensive hospital stay and a haze to say the least due to all the narcotic pain meds. I'm glad it's over with now and that the hole is now closed up. No problems lately but knock on wood! Hope it all went well!
I still have a large hole leading to my sinus from a impacted wisdom tooth. It has been about 2 years, and after a dozen times of the dentist trying to stitch it, then pulled a flap over and stitched, then used a piece of tissue and bone and stitched it, etc etc...nothing worked...it never closed and it healed open. I have constant sinus infections, as well as disgusting infected drainage in my mouth that tastes like something died in your mouth. It is horrible. I have no suction, and have to constantly clean and remove food to avoid going further into my sinus. My dentist has been giving me the run around I am sure because he did something wrong. After doing all of these procedures he finally says, well you can either go to an oral surgeon I know but you would have to drive 3 hours to his office, or I can try it one last time because he sent me a video on how to do it...I'm thinking really? After all of these times you have stitched it, then it heals and you cut it open again and again now you tell me you had no idea what you were doing and yea like I want you to do the procedure after watching a video knowing you have never done it before! He tells me this oral surgeon is a friend of his..now I know something is shady..I didn't even think to contact a lawyer..I have just dealt with it unfortunately, but I thought I was the only one dealing with this. I hate the numb and painful feeling I still get if I bite down on something hard, or try to brush. It even makes me talk, breathe, sing, all of the above differently. My family keeps telling me I can die from this, if I leave it open with all of the infections, but I really do not want to go through that pain again, not being able to talk or eat etc because at this point I have no faith in anyone healing it. Also how do they expect people not to sneeze? This is part of healing they tell you to avoid but really who can stop a sneeze?
DON'T do it!
Leave the hole alone, crazy glue it buy a denture to cover it...anything!
I had the same thing happen to me, hole in my gum would not close, food was getting into my sinus cavity and infection...my doc did a MRI...90% of my right sinus cavity had fluid.
They drilled a "drainage hole" in my right sinus.
Because of the direct path to my lower sinus, infection after infection.
This is because there are hairs in your nose to catch foreign debris and allergens before they can get into a place that you do not have to "nettle them out consistently".
I lived with that hole for almost a year...doc says now chronic sinusitis...
I did not have the benefit of this experience of which I pass to any one who will read it.
YOU WERE BORN WITH APPROPRIATE AMOUNT OF HOLES IN YOUR HEAD!
I realized that if I re-open the hole because it had healed as a hole it may heal.
OUCH, used a disposable scalpel making an "X" out of the hole....kept it clean (no alcohol) and now its healed...now I want a patch in the butchers hole in my sinus...dont go down that road!