My username is bowelflora and I've been reading this forum for about a week. It has been a week since I started using Triplex ( Black-Walnut , wormwood & cloves). I've also taken olive leaf. For the first three days I felt very ill and bloated like a pregnant woman. I had farts that smelled of ammonia at day three *blush*. Another serious thing happened on day three. A worm (or something!) suddenly wanted to climb out via my throat! IS THIS NORMAL? I freaked out and rushed to the health store and bought load of stuff. I ate some pumpkin seeds but that made it worse. The particular worm wanted out again and I had this terrible crawling in my intestines like there were thousands more!
Since then this particular worm wants out every day. I frantically keep trying to swallow it down with hot water but yesterday I let it crawl out. It went up my nose cavity twice and tried to go into my lungs which was painful. It doesn't seem to want to go into my mounth? this happened a few times and I couldn't get it out.
I am so scared and I don't know what to do. This thing is very intelligent and it obviously has it's own survival in mind. WHAT CAN I DO? PLEASE HELP. I've been reading through the old posts but I can't find anything helpful.
If I couldn't get professional help here's what I'd do:
I'd prepare myself TWO solutions:
- 400ml drinking water.
- 1 or 2 teaspoons of table salt . [the amount of salt varies and depends on your organism and on several other factors. 1 teaspoon should be safe in most cases, I think].
I'd boil the water for 15 mins then I'd add the salt.
I's set this solution aside in a cool environment but not to freeze.
I'd prepare a second solution of 1400ml water boiled for 15 minuties with 3 to 4 tablespoons of cloves all together. Afterwards I'd add about 1 to 2 tablespoons of Sugar and just about 30 drops of pure lemon juice. This is important. You want to keep just the liquid.
Then, I'd wait for that bastard to 'show up' again.
The moment I'd feel it coming up the trhoat, immediately I'd drink the FIRST SOLUTION at least 50ml per shot with 5 to 10 seconds between each shot [after shaking it plenty to ensure a good mix].
Then I'd wait 1 to 3 minutes and then I'd drink at least 100ml of the second solution. Then I'd drink twice the dose of the second solution every 5 to 10 minutes increasingly doubling the dose each time, until I ran out of it. That should take care of it.
A bowel movement could occur ab. 1 hr afterwards.
HOWEVER; This could be dangerous if you're TOO infested. One could never be really sure just what to expect, so I'd do this as a desperate measure only, and by no means would attempt it twice.
Try not to be alone if you're going to do this.
I'd do it this way because I'd rather get the bastard instead of waiting for it to crawl up my pharynx down the trachea to choke me to death in my sleep. It's probably some adult A. lumbricoides.
First off, you want to be sure you don't have a sodium problem or High Blood Pressure, that is way more salt than you should have even daily. So if you have HP, I would say salt is out!!!
Also Cloves are bad for anyone who has had a heart attack, Cloves means Big Problems for you in that situation!!
I've had HP since '07 and a heart attack and stent Dec '14 and have the same damn worm trying to get up in my mouth. All my problems started with some type of jumping mites, not Scabies or the other pest, a blame jumping mite, worse at nite (to gt relief I leave a light on at nite) but there's your mouth, eyes, and nose...these things crawl into whatever cavity they can find.
What has helped my nose I clean out my sinuses with 1/4 tsp salt in very warm water in a Neil's Sinus Rinse Bottle, OTC, I've learned to bend my head as low as possible and also standing up straight, this takes about 2-3 bottles. I have a good light over the lavatory so I can see the junk coming out of my nose. I even put 2-3 drops Tea Tree Oil in the water, be careful not to use too much, burns. Or 1-2 drops or Oregano Oil, also 1-2 drops under your tongue, sometimes that seems to either kill the worm in my throat or it goes back down to my stomach. I've often wondered if drinking a Coke would relieve them.
Be careful about Oregano oil, I was using 2-3 drops in juice and after about 4 days my Blood Pressure shot up to 215/190, scared the hell out of me as it almost caused a stroke.
My mites and then into worms has caused me to lose 40 lbs; my normal weight is 139 and I have hit 92 lbs several times since the worms have raised their heads, I'm 105 today but so fatigued from them eating my beneficial nutrients. And guess what my gastro Chinese Dr does, gives me a Stone Mountain stare and won't refer me to a Infectious Disease DR!! But she does know that I have intestinal parasites for sure!
Hope my suggestions will benefit someone...not much to offer but every little bit helps...and don't forget your prayers
Hello - you might have a large tapeworm. The top (head) part is in your intestines and the bottom (tail) is around your throat area OR it could have turned around (hence the extreme wiggling sensation) and the head is at the throat area and the bottom is in the intestinal area.
Not to gross you out, but an old old old-time remedy was to have the patient fast for a few days, then attract the head out through the mouth with Sugar - grab the head and ease the Tapeworm out through the mouth - it would go to the food source. This is what I suggest for you: you have got to get it to turn back around. Eat sweets - candy, sugary cakes, starches - make that bastard turn back around to go get the food it wants! Get it's head back into the intestinal area - you'll feel that weird wiggling again. THEN go buy some psyllium - Metimucial will do - take the MAXIMUM daily amount - drink A LOT of water to make it work. Psyllium swells to 50 times it's size in your body and if you take enough of it, it can literally trap large parts of that Tapeworm and help pull part of it out of your body.
A tapeworm is made up of segments - you have got to break those segments up - the psyllium will help with that. It can regenerate itself if only it's head is left. When it gets to a more manageable size, hit it again with your herbs. You have got to make the head turn loose so the whole thing can be expelled from your body.
I have helped MANY folks over the years get rid of big Tapeworms and this is the advice I give them. I am available by email if I can help you more.
I've got an appointment with the naturapath in an hour so I'm going to type this quick. I think the bastard may be a roundworm (ascaris) since it is very mobile and moves quickly. I think it is around 5cm long because when I sit still I can feel the way it moves around exploring. It didn't stay in the nasal cavaties for long. I think it saw no opportunity for food and kept moving, eventually I managed to swallow it back it. (It doesn't want to be expelled.) I don't think it is a very long worm because when it moves up to the nasal cavety there is nothing to swallow. So I don't think it's tail is still lodged in the esophacus when it moves up.
I think it is simply looking for food. I did a Bowel Cleanse two days ago and my intestines are empty. I also haven't been feeling well the last 3 days and consequently haven't ate much. I think there are many, maby a nest, because when I ate the pumpkin seeds 3 days ago I felt the one in the throat and a whirling, moving around sensation in the area of the large intestine, right above the naval.
You guys won't believe what is happening to me right now. I am sitting here typing to you while crying. I think the bastard as gone straight into my right lung. It is painful when I breathe and there is a sensitive bump around the area where my liver or lung (not sure?)is supposed to be. I feel absulutely horrified and violated. I feel like I'm going to loose my mind!!!
You hang in there! Try to remain positive - think about it - you WILL get rid of this thing and you will have the knowledge of how to remain parasite free for the rest of your life. MANY folks are not so fortunate - they will allow these unseen invaders take away their health and will never know that they could have fought the battle and won. You will be in my thoughts.
I agree, talk to them and tell them that they have to go, then start talking to your body and tell it that it has to kill and expel these creatures. Remember that GOD created the earth by his words! Words create faith and faith heals. God bless you and guide you!
Hi bowelflora ,
It's been a while since you posted. I was just wondering how your appt with the naturapath went? Hope you are doing better?
What an awful ordeal. Please try to keep your chin up. It will get better. And please be careful when trying to get rid of this.
I overdid it with a parasite cleanse with wormwood in it and I nearly died several times it messed up my system so bad. I am only now starting to feel better but am extremely weak from my ordeal. The bad thing is that although it nearly killed me numerous times the parasite that I was trying to get rid of survived it all- now I KNOW that life's not fair :0)lol (?)
I'll be thinking of you and hoping that things will get better for you.
I know exactly how you feel!! I too feel like I could go insane right now!
I picked up parasites while I was pregnant (awfulllllll!) and was afraid to do anything about them, other than a good diet, until after I weaned my daughter. I have always been real thin and active but I have gained quite a bit of weight that I just canít shake and I just feel awful all the time. I have had a phlegmy caught (the majority of coughing is every morning) but no sickness symptoms other than lethargy, mental dulling and moodiness. 5 days ago I started drinking VERY strong Pau d' arch tea with ginger, cayan, grapefruit seed extract and peppermint oil. I was trying to bring my internal temp up to kill them and get my metabolism going. I gave a weak pau d' arch with a couple drops of grape fruit seed extract tea, to my 23month old daughter and she is expelling all kinds of worms (larger but short red ones, I have these too, and threadlike white ones) with lots of what looks like black seeds and tons of green mucus. I have been getting head aches and my face has been breaking out (never do). Well...last night I stayed up real late and wanted to drink a strong cup of the tea. About 8 minutes after I drank it I could feel some thing crawling up my throat!!! I had read in a medical post that on rare occasion certain worms will do that. It was like being in the most wrenching nightmare ever!! I started drinking more of the tea with lots of spicy things and tons of salt and tons of grapefruit seed extract as well as repeated doses of peppermint drops. I would have drank hot lave! I was crying and freaking out. I could feel it moving around and get so frigen close to my tongue. I just didnít want it to come out! I would have never been the same again, I just wanted to keep swallowing it down. I passed out and fell asleep. I woke this morning praising God it was all over BUT as I sat to reply to this poor person with sympathy, I could feel the damn thing like it was in the left side of my lung (it is very uncomfortable!!!!) and part of it keeps going into my esophagus and up my throat!!! I canít stand the thought of taking a synthetic medication for it that will damage my liver or something but I have to make it stop and am afraid of eating anything. I donít know what to do. I don't want to be just irritating these guys. Please help me.!!!!!!!!!!!
You should see about getting some food grade diatomaceous earth. It kills parasites internally and externally and is wonderful for all kinds of health problems.
You have to make sure that it is FOOD GRADE quality. It is all natural. It kills parasites by physical actions - it is a fine powder but each particle has sharp edges (not to us but to parasites) so it cuts them and kills them. They cannot become immune to it.
I got a 10 lb bag on ebay and have been giving friends and family members some to try and everyone has had WONDERFUL results with it.
I would say that if you take the diatomaceous earth in some juice or soda that it should kill whatever this thing is and then you should just pass it out the other end- much preferable to it coming out the mouth-UGH!
Here are a cople of sites where you can get more information but I found the best deal by checking ebay/ Just make sure that it is 100% FOOD GRADE quality-ok?
1. Large Tapeworms are known to be stuck securely in one place and hardly ever move. Some small Tapeworms may migrate from the large to the small bowel in response to host's eating.
2. Tapeworms do not have mouths on their heads with which they would feed. They do not have digestive organs at all: no mouth, no anus, no alimentary canal. They absorb the nutrients through their skin called tegument. Their "heads" are actually attachment organs with which they secure themselves to the wall of the intestine.
What this woman describes sounds a lot like a typical Ascaris migration in response to inadequate medication. The herbs she is using, including pumkin seeds, are for tapeworms, not round worms like ascaris.
In her place I would get levamisole 150 mg and take it at once and perhaps repeat the dose in a day, if she does not passes them out after the first dose. Albendazole/mebemdazole may be useless for her at this point. And I would be very careful not to take more than 150 mg of levamisole, because a mistake in dosage could be deadly.
On the other hand, if a worm is stuck in her bronchial tube, she most likely needs a real MD to take it out.
This horrible situation could have been avoided if she had an O&P test to determine what type of parasite she had and prescribed a proper medication for it to begin with.
This absorption action is why Black-Walnut works so effectively against them - it contains tannin (organic iodine) juglandin, juglone and juglanic acids. It also oxygenates the blood which parasites don't like either. I know full well how Tapeworms attach and feed, but there are cases, albeit very few and very far between, where a LARGE tapworm will try to migrate. In my experience this only happens when the host is weak and very ill - when the host can no longer intake enough nutrition to feed themselves AND the tapeworm. The Tapeworm will move to find a better source of "food" or will try to exit the host in order to survive. The host loses weight, yet is starving and is skin and bones, yet has a potbelly. I have seen this with my own eyes - the first and last time was in 1973 when I was 18 and was allowed to help my mother and grandmother "pull" a Tapeworm from a very sick elderly man. His wife brought him over from Lake Village Arkansas. My grandpa and I carried him from the car to a cot on my grandmother's porch - he literally wanted to die. He had not eaten solid foods for over a week and he was steadily retching. My grandmother made him swallow molasses, then honey, then pure cane Sugar - and he was still retching. She made him lie on his left side and then she put a small jar of molasses by his mouth. He kept saying he could feel it moving up his throat and they told him just to be still and be patient. Within ONE HOUR he began choking and retching and she and my grandpa pulled the tapeworm out through his mouth- I was scared to death because I thought he was going to die, he could not breathe while they were pulling it out and his eyes were bulging out of his head. (Nobody measured it, but I feel safe in saying it was over 10 feet long - I had to take it and burn it.) That man's stomach went flat, he puked for a while, then my grandmother made him some tea - then he was HUNGRY! She fed him and he and his wife left for home. I never, ever want to see that again. EVER. My grandmother said he probably picked it up during the first world war and it had just been growing bigger and stronger until it took over his body. I don't always give the correct advice to folks, but I have my reasons behind what advice I do give.
When taking herbs for other purposes--unbeknownst to me all were vermifuges--I started passing 3 kinds worms in my stool and tiny thready looking 1/2 inch white ones in my urine. I had to go off the herbs because I got pregnant--not pregnant now, but direly ill including respiratory symptoms, worms in nose, very distended abdomen, nutritional deficiencies clinically diagnosed. I wish to avoid having anything crawling up my throat. I bought vermex and mebendazole and will probably buy some food grade diatomaceous earth, but until I hear from you, will probably let sleeping worms lie! I'm pretty sure the work ups I had at Mayo included all kinds of parasite screening but they never treated me? I had classic symptoms of trichinosis as a child and an abusive crazed parent made me eat all kinds of horrible things over the years including animal faeces. Was never treated for anything but pinworms.
Humaworm, I'd like to ask you for some advice.
I have been diagnosed with Ascaris, but also have symptoms of tapeworm. All medications I've tried, plus all the herbs, etc. have not worked. I have a worm, or worms in my sinus cavity and I've developed 3 brain tumors, (I believe they are cysts from the parasites). I'm having surgery in less than 2 weeks. They are going through my nose to remove one of the tumors. I'm scared that the opening will allow the eggs to get into my brain. I have not found anyone to believe me and help me with this is the medical field. I am desperate at this point.
And, if I try to tell the surgeon, who is in another state and I have not met yet, he will think I'm nuts and not do the surgery.
The surgery is urgent because it is on the pituitary gland and has caused me to have Acromegaly.
I am feeling hopeless and don't know where to turn for help.
Please let me know if you have any suggestions. Thank you!
ps Tumor #2 is in my ear canal, Acoustic Neuroma. It is easy to see how worms in the sinus cavity can easily get to these areas at the base of the brain, through the sinuses.
To me it sounds like Ascaris or other roundworm. If the herbs are only aggravating them at this point, perhaps you can try medicine against Ascaris and other roundworms although it's a bit poisonous to your liver as well. Also there might be other options that people are trying like the zapper and sputnik that photon is currently writing about. I think they are looking for a place to get away from the herbs, as well as finding some food. When they are healthy and accidentaly move out from your anus or or nose(both happened to me although not very common), they will usually turn back very fast. Just a thought perhaps you can add lots of pineapple during they day, they don't like it very much, and at night you can try eating some valerian as well, cause ascaris seems to be a bit sensitive to sleeping pills and herbs of various kinds. It's only a thought though. I use a zapper as well as herbs to help keep my sinuses clear from parasites although there are probably better options.
What they often do is move down to the larger intestine when you start taking herbs, but in your case one moved upwards instead. Perhaps you could try a Bowel Cleanse as well. You should try to find a good infectious specialist that has knowledge of parasites although it's difficult to find for most.
Remember you are not alone with this roundworm problem! We are many who have the similar symptoms. Problem is they are too big for the immunessystem to handle so we have to figure out how to kill them somehow.
By the way the time one moved out from my nose was when I was in Turkey, it was 53 degrees celcius (hot), and I could barely eat. I believe it was uncomfortable in the heat or uncomfortable because I wasn't eating anything or both, and it's pretty remarkable to me when they actually try to get out of my body like that. I was drinking some drinks as well at the time, not sure if it could have anything to do with it. Don't want to be too graphic, but it might give some clues to some people on their behaviour and so fourth.
In the beginning it's a trauma for you, but it will pass after a while, and you have to focus on getting better. For me it's been such a long struggle that I don't even get freaked out anymore by knowing that I still have this problem, cause I know for example a fourth of the world population of something like that has ascaris and most of them don't even know it and that's just one parasite of all the parasites in the world! At least we are lucky to know that we are have parasites and we are a minority of all these people, so some of us on this forum actually have less parasitic load then most people out on the streets! Remember I'm not a professional and my thoughts might have errors.
I don't know if you've gotten help for the worm. But I am in the same situation . When I saw Dr's about it they told me that it was all in my head. I have been dealing with this for 7 years. Everything that was discribed plus I feel tem behind my eyes. I also believe its probably effecting my thyroid gland may be irritating it . If anyone has found a good doctor or if you have any solution please help.
I need help too, doctor looked at me like I was crazy when I told him I almost choked from parasite coming up my throat.Terrified it will happen again. Who do I see about this problem doctor won't admit such problem.