I've been using oral food grade peroxide for several weeks now. I think that it does attack viruses in the body. My dosage is currently 2 glasses of distilled water per day with 25 drops of H202 each. I recently got so sick that I simply hade to stop taking it for a few days. I've been told that cleansing reactions are part of the protocol but I was coughing up flem all night long, had a severe headache, and having to use the bathroom all night long as well. I felt like I had pneumonia or something. I don't know how other people deal with this but I have to work for a living so I simply can't be sick like this for prolonged periods of time so I have had to stop the dosage for some days until I feel better. I think people should realize that you may have to really suffer some in order to cure your body of viruses, bacteria, and fungus. I think that the H202 was definitely stirring up some viruses in me because prior to taking H202 I rarely ever got sick. Did anyone here have any similar experience?
How long did it take for your body to experience these reactions? When I first started I got myself up to 25 drops by the third day, and continued at 25 drops for several days without any negative symptoms aside from a slight urge to barf from the aweful taste. Eventually I stopped because it didn't seem to be producing the detox reactions I expected, and the taste was just too much for me to handle.
I'm thinking about going back on because after looking around, there really is no oxygenatng product around that can compete with 35% hydrogen peroxide... so don't bother wasting your money.
I think it started to make me feel real sick after about 2 weeks of using 25 drops twice a day. You know I'm not sure whether it actually caused me to be sick by killing off all the good bacteria in my body or whether it woke up a latent virus inside of me and was in the process of destroying it. All I know is that using the product got me real sick for reasons I'm not sure of. One other thing is after stopping the dosage and eating yogurt for 2 days afterwards the sick feelings seem to be going away. This makes me wonder if I was in need of some good bacteria. I'd be curious to hear from others who have experience with this.
25 drops of h2o2 in a glass of water, but how big is the glass? The maximum safe concentration for oral use is 0.5%. I tried h2o2 starting with a very low dose, 3 drops in half pint of water and built up by 3 drops a day until I was on 36 drops a day. This is about 0.35%.
You say that you stopped taking h2o2 because you got sick, and that you rarely got sick before, so why did you try h2o2 in the first place?
I used to have warts. Warts are caused by a virus. I thought I could destroy any viruses in my body using oral H202. I currently have switched over to another method which I believe can kill any viruses in the body. I currently drink a large vegetable and fruit drink every morning. I mix 4 cloves of garlic in the blender also. I have read that garlic can kill viruses, bacteria, fungus, and even cancer.
So far so good and I think I'll stay with the the daily juice plan for some time. Meanwhile I have been using the Hydrogen peroxide in my bath water to clean up after getting dirty at work.
I got to the self-administration of H202 trough the following history.
From as long as I can remember I have suffered from what has been summarised by the clinical term "irritable bowel syndrome"
Classic medicine after useless treatments like antibiotics found that I had to live with this problem they called "functionnal".
I entered into the nathuropatic way of life about 6 years ago and my condition, provided I took great attention not to eat sugar, peper, chocolate etc, improved a lot.
One year ago I started the blood group O diet and my condition improved somewhat again.
However my doctor a naturopath practionner as well tried to cure the lifelong swelling of my colon and prostate with not to much luck.
In the meantime, by reading some parallel medicine newsletters (doctor willickx, Atkin, mac dougalls, HSI, etc) I was convinced my problems were related to a chronical candida albicans problem.
Before engaging myself into oxygen therapy I was filling quite well (taking a lot of suplement pills as first next generation of doctor willickx then the Doctor Rowland formula) for my age but the chronical swelling of the colon was recurent. The consequence, altough I live a life of diet exercices and swallow the best suplement my body was fairly intoxicated. This caused a lot of fatigue and also muscular and joint pains (however pain was mild and every time I got a crisis or I exhausted myself physically I recovered quite rapidly thanks to the antioxydants I was taking. Flus were things of the past.
Here I come to my experience with oxygen therapies:
One year ago, following the advice of my doctor (naturopath) I got every week an ozone steam sauna.
The day I took the half an hour steam spa including ozone I felt very tired. The day after I felt I was 20 years old again. The naturopath explained the result by the detoxification effect of ozone.
I looked around to try to purchase such a machine with no luck.
Then I heard at a french radio very favourable testemonies about a tree pine terpene peroxyde producing machine whereby you inhale during three to 12 minutes three time a day a pine tree essential oil which has been heated and in which an air charged with ozone is forced. I found later on that this breathing machine is a modern reedition of the 1920 Violet Ray machine (see oxyfiles)
In the testemonies an HIV positive young man claimed that his immunity had return to normal after 3 month use of the machine.
I bought this french made machine and tried it.
To my great disappointment I felt very sick using the machine and especially my irritable bowel syndrome came back with a vengeance any time I was using the machine more than one time aday. The result were indeed completely different from the ones experienced with the ozone sauna machine . Why?
The firm selling such machine sent me a book where it was explained that most people feel and immediate improvement of their health and fatigue by using the machine. But the book stated also that the only people feeling not well with such machine are the ones experiencing a chronical inflammation of the bowel. They recommended that such a chronical inflammation be treated first before using the machine intensively.
To treat my chronical inflammation of the bowel which I attributed myself to candida my naturopath gave me a lot of suplement (biolactol, bioflores, symbioflores,etc ) with no effects. the only favourable way was to avoid sugars and certain foods and reduce the use of the terpene peroxyde breather.
Then, surfing on internet to find scientific articles regarding oxygen therapy I found oxyfiles (now unfortunately closed) and the article regarding self-administration of H202.
I found also a 42 pages scientific study on the toxicity
of H202, a report made in order for the firm manufacturing tooth bleaching streaps to gain approval of the european commission. This report was reassuring regarding the toxicity of H202 (mutagene, carcinomia, toxicity sensibility, etc)provided the laboratory animals tested do not exceed certain dosage limits which are far exceeding the therapeutic dosage recommended for human.
One of the study involving mices showed that the lot taking either a 0,4 % lifelong H202 water or a 1% dosage had about 20 % more survivers after a 52 weeks period but nevertheless they experienced some erosion problems.
I have calculated that the 25 drops three time a day for human correspond approximately (assumption of a 2 quart total daily drinking) to 0,2% daily. The curse of 25 days to reach this dosage equal a 0,1% average dosage for a 25 days period. Everything looked quite safe to me.
My brother just experienced a severe arythmea case after a pneumonia probably led to a viral or bacterial infection of his heart which caused a localised shortcircuit in the heart . he first got an angioplasty (bad diagnosis from one hospital) and then he passed trough a robotic operation whereby the shortcircuited zone of the heart is burned locally.
He was just coming back from the hospital in very bad shape when I spoke to him about H202 therapy as he could not afford buying a peroxyde breather.
He started immediately with 5 drops and three days later he was so well that I decided to quit the peroxyde breathing machine and pass myself to the H202 treatment.
The day after my first three time a day 5 drops cure I already did feel that I had a bowel. I could push anywhere on my lower body no pain, no colotis.
I am now one week in the cure and the beneficial effects of H202 are amazing.
My prostatis is almost gone. I made a test and ate only junk foods for aday. The only thing I experienced was a lot of energy, an increase of my body temperature. no swelling, no colitis no headache, perfect digestion.
I have also the feeling that I am draining myself like hell the all toxins feeling less pain in my joints and muscular tissues. I need less sleep and I dont need my daily siesta anymore.
To summarize, H202 gave me the same effect as the ozone spa but here it last.
I am hopefull this miraculous improvment of my condition will last. However as I have an important scientific background I like to have things explained. Here is my tentative of explanation for the reason of the failure of the terpene peroxyde therapy and the succes of the H202 therapy.
I could be allergic to terpene of course but I rather think that the peroxyde and oxygen were reaching my intestine from inside trough the blood stream. They were probably destroying a layer of candidas with the side effect of an important toxin discharge in the digestive tract which made me sick.
H202 ingested work directly in the digestive tract, killing a layer of candidas but this must be the great difference, H202 oxydise the toxins and allow a quick scavenging. By the way are you aware that recently researchers have found that intestine cells were also producing H202.
When my cure will be finished (as far as I read on candida problem I will need a 6 months cure) I will try again the terpene peroxyde machine and think I will have no adverse side effects this time. Despites the adverse effects on my bowel, this breather supress in the track any sinusitis, sore throat etc. (see "laboratoires holiste"on the net)
I was really interested to read your message on your experience with Hydrogen Peroxide. I have been suffering with chronic candida for many years now and I am so sick of it and the very, very restricted diet I have to follow with multiple food intolerances and also vomiting after some foods. I seem to have tried so many things with little effect. I am very interested in trying H.P. but I am also very nervous about it. What do you think. I live in the UK and I am not sure if you can buy it over the counter or not. I am presently taking Nature's Biotics (Soil Based Organisms) which really help my GI tract, but I still have candida. Do you think it would be ok to continue to take the Nature's Biotics and take the H.P. or would the H.P. kill the Soil Based Organisms.
What is your diet like? Do you have amalgams? Other ongoing heavy metal exposures from your environment? Oxygen therapy alone will not alleviate candida overgrowth.
It must be part of a total plan that adresses you biological terrain. Candida is overgrowing because your system is toxic. Deal with that and candida will correct itself.
The only thing that helped my 12 year old with her candida, which she had for 4 years, was a product called Threelac and oxygen elements. What a difference it made in only a few days time. She takes a maitnence dose once a day now. We tried so many other things...the diet was so restrictive for a 12 year old.....beta glucan, caprylic acid, Cs etc......none of those helped much. We also tried using an enteric coated probiotic. This product has been a real God send for us.
Just curious, where did you buy Oxygen Elements? I just bought Bhreelac and was hoping that would be the magic bullet. However, a lot of people seem to use the oxygen product in conjunction with Threelac. Should I consider buyihg oxygen elements too?
My daughter has been on the threelac now for almost 3 weeks and it has done wonders for her candida! I also gave her the drops of oxygen elements in her purified water. Also the LHB capsules to help digest her meals. Her rash on her buttocks has cleared up already and she no longer sleeps 10 hours a night. I purchased mine at www.globalhealthtrax.com/lynn60
As far as I am concerned I keep on taking probiotic suplements with the meals. I have read (see LAPIS posting on page 9 also) that lactobacillius are quite resisting to oxygen in general. I have also found a study made by the big laboratories in order to ascertain that using H202 for thooth bleaching strips is not harmfull despitesd the 5 to 10 % grade of H202 used.
I also keep on taking my multivitamins suplements with the meals altought I suspect them to be a partial cause of some candida overgrowth in the gut as they are oxygen traps but I have no scientific evidence to proove that only anecdotal reports from candida specialists.
I have tried many ways to get rid of candidas but my opinion is that H202 has been the best so far.
Be carefull if you are severely affected to the die-off effect and start with one or two drops first.
I am also convinced that I will have to take it now all my life as it is not a medecine but a suplement necessary for my metabolism to function properly. It not only cure candidas but every ilnesses as our body when functionning properly is our best doctor, able to defeat any invader. I will find out by experience which dosage I shall take after the basic treatment.
I personnaly use (we are now 6 in the family using it) a grade sold here in belgium by the pharmacies (chemists) it is a 30 % grade (quoted as 100 % in VOLUME) only containing polyphosphates and orthophosphates as additives. Watch out, I personnaly take a 35% grade IN VOLUME which means as the pharmacy grade is 100 % IN VOLUME that they prepare it for me by adding about TWO third of water
If you follow the protocol with courage I am sure you will be stunned by the power of this natural healing way and I am also convinced that if you have candidas your body is more or less oxygen depleted as was mine.
I read your post just previous to this one, wow great documentation and results. I just purchased the food grade 17 1/2% and am wondering how many drops of that I would start with. Can you help?
I was going to use it for brushing my teeth but I have mercury fillings and Dr. Clark advises against that. However I really would like to try it and hope the drops in water is a safe dosage considering my fillings,
I had really good results getting rid of candida by taking a product called Amazingrape. It only costs $33 for the first bottle every month and $16.50 after that. I gave 2 bottles to my girlfriend with stomach cancer and 99% of the cancer was GONE in 5 days of using 8 of them. I use 2 a day to keep candida away. Another guy got rid of his stage 4 lung cancer in 18 days taking 10 a day. If you have any problems only take that much for 18 to 21 days, then cut back to 2 a day. Every one pays the same for the product. You can get it here...www.amazingrape.com/linda57