I have a large degenerating fibroid that I am trying to deal with naturally and to avoid a surgery. I told my doctor to give me about a month to see what I can do t shrink it. I was pretty confident because I was able to control it in the past 6-7 years with diet, herbs and exersise but it seems like this time the same program does not work. I did The Master Cleanse for 8 days, then 7 days juice fast and now I am on 100% raw food. I lost about 15 pounds, now I am 106 pounds but my belly is still big and I have to think that must be the fibroid pushing trhough. I expected it would get smaller after fasting and raw food, but it seems that it might even getting bigger. Does anyone know if it is possible for degenerating fibroid to get bigger on fasting and raw food? That would be really bad news for me, because I really hoped I can do it. I have an ultrasound on Aug 2 and I thought I will have good result by then. Does anyone have more information on the subject and what could I've possibly done wrong?
I am almost tempted to go back to fasting to see if my belly get smaller. The only thing that stops me is that I am afraid to lose more weight.
How did you know the fibroid was degenerating? Do you still have period?
In my case, I have had massive fibroids for over 7 years. I almost 53, still menstruating. Other than back pain, bloating and distention, I have no excess bleeding and abdonminal pain but a lot of discomfort. My fibroids occupy my whold abdomen and come up above my navel. They are so huge that I look like a 7-8 month pregnant woman.
I had been a vegetarian for 14 years until I came down with panic attacks and depression last year(I was sent to mental hospital for it). Then I started eating canned tuna this year and shrimps and regular fish a few months ago. My mental problem got better without any medication but my fibroids are still growing. I hike as much as I could and tried to cut down carbohydrate and sugar.
I tried fasting 14 years ago and I found it detrimental. Unless I am diagnosed with ternminal cancer I will not try fasting again.
I am just hoping when I am officially menopausal my fibroids will stop growing.
Hi, I am so glad that finally someone answered my concern. I have been told by my doctor that the fibroid is generating. I think they can tell by looking at the ultrasound. Usually if it is degenerating if it is full of liquid(instead of being a solid mass) and it looks dark on the screen. I also have mine for about seven years and has been pretty stable. I noticed that in the past I was able to control its grouth and actually shrink it with persistant strict diet(about 95 to 100%)raw food. I was it perfect shape on that diet(for abot 2 years) and I absolutelly loved it till I got pregnant. From that moment on my diet changed dramatically. I had a terible morning(think 24 hours a day) sickness. The raw food made me sick and I was craving heavy and comfort foods(breads and pasta, cheese and meet). Anyway, I had a healthy pregnancy and a healthy baby. The problem was that the fibroid grew bigger and I had to have a c-section. After the pregnancy they shrunk and gor stabalazed. They never gave me any problems and I had regular painless periods, Just till the last few months they became irregular and with a lot of clotts. So, I checked with my doctor and he found that the degenerating fibroid has grown(I think he said about10 cm) and that it is a good idea to be removed(he preffers hysterectomy).So, I asked him to give me a a month time to see what can I do to take care of it. so I did the fasting and now of course I am back on the 100% raw food. The fast did not bother me , but of course it was not long enough. I am almost tempted to do another one, before my ultrasound.
What kind of fast did you try and for how long? Did it help you in general to become healthier?
IO am also hoping that after menopause the fibroids shrink, altought that my doctor said that is not necessecerelly always the case. What kind of diet do you currently follow? Have you tried the MC?
I did fasting years before I developed fibroids. And the fasting was for a growth (like a vein) in my breast. I tried water and juice fasting; on the third day I had sweating and heart palpatation so I stopped. (I had that happening twice during different juice fasting period). But the breast growth went away in two months without any medical intervention. If I had gone to MD, they probably would have done some poking and biopsy to protect themselves while causing some damage to my body?!
Fibroids grow bigger during pregnancy also was because the higher level of progesterone during pregnancy. Nevertheless I am still using progesterone cream from health food store from day 14 of my cycle. Maybe I should stop. The cream helped with my panic attacks but not the shrinking of the fibroids.
I am ashamed to say I am not good with diet, I live with people who are not so health conscious.
Maybe you can help me or give me some emotional support on that.
What is MC?
Sorry I will talk to you later, it is getting light outside and I need to go for my morning walk. Exercise is essential in balancing our hormones.
MC stands for master cleanse or the so called Lemonade Diet .There are tons of websides and support groups online. It is very simple and tolerable for most people. You pretty much fast on freshly made lemon juice mixed with grade B organic maple syrup and caeynne pepper. To get the full benefits you need to stay minimum 10 days on it. I did it for 8 days only and that's why I want to try it again. I was acctually fine, just felt very skinny, just got tired of the same citrus taste and missed the variety of different fruit and vegetable juices. I am hoping that I still continued to cleanse even if I changed the fast.
I think when you do something like that you have to be mentally ready and very well familliar with what you are doing, how it works and what are the effects on your body. Educate yourself, read a lot of materials,do your research,experiment with different programs and see what works for you, sigh up for support groups, talk to other people that are doing the same and of course listen and respect your body. Be gentle and loving to yourself.
One think I firmly believe is that our bodies can heal themselves on their own if we give them the chance. Have you tried anything else beside fasting? Herbs, colonics, liver flush, energy work, meditation and yoga?
I have clinical depression and panic attacks, so I will have to take these disorders as my priority. Fasting? I will have to put it off until I am totally stable mentally. Fasting tends to disrupt my electrolytes.
I started on higher dosage pancreatin enzyme. Three years ago my tumors were huge and they pressed against my intestines so I got constant gas, indigestion and no appetite. I started on prancreatin, it got better; then I started to drink kumquat tea [http://www.hort.purdue.edu/ext/senior/fruits/kumquat1.htm], it got even better. Now my indigestion is almost gone; but I increase the enzyme(strongest dosage) to 2 tablets between meals twice a day. (Google "enzyme" and "fibroids")
I will see what happens.
I also heard maitake tablets shrunk fibroids, but never tried.
You know I have a history of panic attacks too and they were really bad. I ended several times in the ER room. After I started my first detox program for the fibroids and became a raw foodist(well, only for 2 years)they dissapeared. I have to tell you the first 30 days on my journy to the raw food they were still there and very staburn, but eventually they were gone completely. After I returned to the cooked food when I got pregnant they came back but very rarely and not so severe. Ever since I started my new detox now(several weeks now)I am really calm and there is not even a remote sign of anxiety or depression. So, just keep in mind that food is very closely related to mental disorders. Are you taking any medications(antidepressants maybe)?
I looked at the kamquat page, but it was only the fruit related information. How do you make the tea?
I agree about the enzimes and actually after beeing on raw food for a wile it restores the proper combination of enzimes and electrolites, but it has to be very well ballanced and in right proportions. I've heard also of a enzime product called Vitalzim, that helps with shrinking fibroids. I have not taken it yet. You have to take it for at least 3 months and in large doses and is quite expesive
"Ever since I started my new detox now(several weeks now)I am really calm and there is not even a remote sign of anxiety or depression."
Thank you very much for sharing your experience with me. I am grateful. No, I am not taking and meds; not even when I was in ER the first time(and last time), I did not know what went wrong yet I threw away the tablet they gave me.
"I looked at the kamquat page, but it was only the fruit related information. How do you make the tea?"
It is kumquat, not kamquat. I could never get it right :)
I am sorry about being so vague. Unfortunately it is no longer kamquat season. I had had a kamquat tree in my front yard for 11 years without taking advantage of it until the beginning of this year when I started to make kamquate tea. Because of my Gallstones I had always had indigestion for decades after just about every meal; and by pure chance I stumbled on kamquat tea (which was a two thousand year old Chinese medicinal recipe. You just pour boiling water on 7 or 8 freshly sliced kamquats placed in a thermos(or stainless steel container, but never use the thermos with plastic cap) and let it steep for half an hour and drink it for the rest of the day. Replensh the thermos with hot water(not boiling water) as you pour out the tea. By the end of 3 to 4 hours the tea is the best: thick and sweet. See if any of your friends have this tree in their yard, look around, because most of people in this culture do not know about its medicinal benefits, they just plant the tree for visual enjoyment.http://www.stmlf-design2.bayern.de/lwg/gartenbau/kuebelpflanzen/bilder/kumquat.jpg
You are right about raw food. I started to eat 40% raw food a few days ago and plus more vigorous hiking, I could feel my tumors receding a bit already(by the tightness of my pants.) I will keep up with it. Thanks.
I forgot to mention inositol. Please Google "panic attack" & "inositol". A study has been done on high dosage of inositol(no side effects like SSRI)taken by patients with depression and panic attacks. I take about 2 g of inositol(Twin Lab), sometimes inositol-choline combination daily; and I believe between this and progesterone cream (also Google "panic attack" & "progesterone")I am almost out of woods now. But I wish I could feel more tranquility and peace. (What I need is meditation, and some strategies(wisdom)in dealing with my stressful environment; AND OF COURSE MORE RAW FOOD!)
I am experiencing difficulty with fibroids at this time. I have a phone # of a homeopath who prescribes remedies for fibroids. My friend said it worked for her. Her name is Julie Holmes her # is 808-878-3267. She has an office in Maui. She will talk to you over the phone. My friend also said to look into castor oil massage. You can do it at home and it helps bring the toxins out. Look it up on the internet. There are different techniques in doing it.
Don't go under the knife without trying something natural first. I am detoxing now and have had success with that before.
Good luck, God Bless,
Thank you Laura so much for your information and suggestions. I will definatelly call the homeopath lady from Maui. I am willing to try everything. Have you tried her remedies? I did menage my fibroids in the past(about 6-7 years ago)with cleanses and 100%raw food and they got smaller but I was never able to get rid of them.
Now since they grew bigger again I am back to fasting, juicing and 100% raw food. .
And that is pretty much it. I don't know how detoxing that is, since I am not taking anything like herbs or another detoxing formulas. I don't know which one to choose. I trid Dr. Shultz and Arise and Shine before but I don't think they were very effective.
After my 8 days on the Master Cleanse(the Lemonade Diet ) I did a Liver Flush and passed several hundreds of stones but did not feel any different than before. I should probably do another one as they recommend.
What are you using for detoxing?
Thanks again and let me know how are you doing with your fibroids battle
The phone number is correct. The Maui Dr is nowledgeable, but I preferred to continue the progesterone cream advice I got from the health food store owner. It did everything is was supposed to do. It also helped my PMS and regulated my cycle. I used it for 1 year (about 5 tubes, $100 total). According to my Dr. at Kaiser, my multiple large fibroids that had grown to a concernable size in a year, had shrunk in the same amount of time.