The manufacturing procedure for sodium ascorbate involves dissolving ascorbic acid in solution with sodium bicarbonate (prepared from sea water). This process removes the bicarbonate from the sodium replacing it with ascorbic acid forming sodium ascorbate. This process produces a truly buffered vitamin C. Each teaspoon = 4,725 mg Vitamin C.
I cant find the larger study I read recently on this but basically sodium ascorbic is ascorbic acid and sodium bicarbonate!
So you are saying sodium ascorbate is not just buffered ascorbate acid but becomes a totsally fifferent substance though this simple solution! I understand that but it is still is ascorbic acid from the start. My point being is you only have to add sodium bicarbonate and ascorbic acid in a glass of water and you have sodium ascorbate , which you can do yuorself with these two substances! Sodium ascorbate is expensive compared to ascorbic acid and baking soda. Make your own!
You probably could make it that way, except I don't know off top of my head what other substances there would be (CO2 most likely), and above all, sodium ascorbate is used for IVs or as drops for sinus problems and the stuff you'd make at home would not be pure enough for that type of use. I'd stick with commercial grade.
if it's too expensive in the UK, have you checked prices in the US? I use calcium ascorbate so I wouldn't know.
Well I beleive thats how Kenner first came up with sodium ascorbate , but yes I suppose you wouldnt want to take your baking soda that has been in the fridge for ever to make an intravenious solution ! You can get ascorbic acid for 18 dollars a kilo, there is no where to get sodium ascorbate near that cheap even in the states!
Calcium ascorbate powder? How can stand the taste?
I took Natrol powdered Ester C, about 14grams in a single morning dose, daily, for over 10 years. Often I would mix it with juice, but on those mornings when rushed, I'd just mix it in water and gulp. Granted, the taste was nothing to write home about, but, like a lot of things in life, after 10 years of a given routine, (3650- plus mornings ;), it got to the point where I no longer really paid much attention to the taste.
OK you guys - after reading your posts, which are truly not on my level of knowledge re vitamin C - WHAT IS THE BEST FORM OF VITAMIN C FOR ME TAKE TAKE - I HAVE TO START RIGHT AWAY....AND HOPEFULLY SEE SOME RESULTS.
For the best price/performance ratio I take calcium ascorbate. It is only a little bit more expensive then ascorbic acid, and is easy on your stomach, and is well absorbed. I wouldn't spend money on ester-c, or anything fancy like that. I used it a for a while and didn't really notice any significant difference.
Dr Robert Cathcart, M.D. has more clinical experience using ascorbate than any living human and has treated well over 20,000 patients with megadoses of ascorbic acid orally and many cases with sodium ascorbate intravenously. He wrote ( http://www.orthomed.com/titrate.htm) that he could not get the [same beneficial] "ascorbate effect" with the mineral ascorbates orally as with ascorbic acid orally.
As "grist for your mill," I myself have taken a "bowel tolerance" dose (in HEALTH, not illness) of ascorbic acid every day since 1994, amounting to, on average, 30,000 to 60,000 milligrams (approximately 1 to 2 ounces) in 5 to 10 divided doses (and will continue to do so for the rest of my life). This is MY bowel tolerance dosage. Your bowel tolerance dosage may be more, or less, than mine, and will undoubtedly vary depending on your current overall health and diet. Each person must find their own bowel tolerance dose each day (although ingesting ANY ascorbate is MUCH better than none). Virtually any mammal you can name (standardized to 154 pounds/70 kilos) produces a minimum of from 2,000 to 13,000 milligrams of ascorbic acid EVERY day of its life, and under "stress" one was recorded to have produced 100,000 milligrams in 24 hours. Need we wonder why their health always seems to be so much better than ours?
Thanks for the info - I am battling chronic fatigue for years - high blood pressure - depression..... you name it. I am currently taking the fizzing kind of vitamin c from Alcer - I cannot bear or tolerate the horrible taste of most vitamin c powders.
I am assuming you take yours in powder form considering the mega doses. I will, when I am feeling more energy and less headache, do some reading on the link which you inserted in your reply.
Also, in your remarks about "stress" and your statement "..Need we wonder why their health always seems to be so much better than ours?"... were you referring to non-human animals?
By the way, is your username "shotsee" the German word for "sweetheart"??? Well, at least they are phonetically the same.
I believe you will get the complete health results you are after ONLY when you work up to a consistent "bowel tolerance" amount DAILY/hourly. The acid is more powerful/effective than the mineral ascorbates (gram for gram). IF I WERE YOU, I would take as much of my ascorbate as I could as ascorbic acid, and then the rest as SODIUM ascorbate ONLY. I suspect if you keep at it Selini, you'll find in a short time you can take ALL of your ascorbate in the acid form [as I do].
I take all of my ascorbic acid by tablet [only]. The powder/crystals is theoretically best, because it is 100% pure (and reaches the blood stream a little quicker), but the problem is getting it past one's teeth safely [so I take the tablets instead].
Yes, I meant the non-human animals [particularly the wild animals, who virtually never get cancer, heart disease, or any of the other typical maladies of humans].
Yes, it is. I had a female Rottweiler once who came to me with that name, and I later found out its meaning.
You might find the following two quotes of interest Selini:
"There are more than ten thousand scientific papers that make it quite clear that there is not one body process (such as what goes on inside cells or tissues) and not one disease or syndrome (from the common cold to leprosy) that is not influenced - directly or indirectly - by vitamin C." -- Dr. Emanuel Cheraskin, M.D., Dr. Marshall Ringsdorf, D.M.D., and Dr. Emily Sisley, THE VITAMIN C CONNECTION.
ďI have never seen a patient that Vitamin C would not benefit.Ē -- Dr. Frederick Klenner, M.D.
If you have any questions, comments, and/or criticisms, if you like, I would be happy to try and address them.
Thank you David for the lengthy and informative response.
I am currently on about 2 - 3,000 mgs of vitamin C a day - and, I have had years of problems with constipation (what a subject - glad we are anonymous)in spite of the fact that I am a vegetarian, do not drink sodas, and prepare my meals fresh every day.
However, recently I purchased a water ozonator. It is one of the best things I have done - I read a post from someone on curezone who shared his experience and told me that instead of doing a glass at a time he ozonated a quart or more of water at one time and drank it within one half hour.
Well, I have followed his routine and can attest to the fact that in addition to putting oxygen into your water (which I need because I also have boughts of anemia) it is a wonderful remedy for ## constipation ##......
And, as for your remarks re the health of the animal kingdom, I totally agree, and I love animals very much. As far as I am concerned, the human species is not only the cancer of the planet but also cancerous to themselves. It is not surprising that we are all dying of cancer - just look at what we have done to our environment, and what we put into our bodies, etc. I don't like to get going on this subject because it really enrages me when I start thinking of all the ills we are forced to endure because of a society which deifies money.
I will take the time to digest the info you gave - it is great to have knowledge instead of just doing things "willy nilly", especially when it pertains to your health.