Hi everyone! I am a 20 year old female. I have posted a few times on here (if you want a detailed background please go back to my first post.) I have been having problems for about 8 years chronic diarrhea (everyday), eczema, angular chelitis (dry, red, chapped lips), abdominal cramping, and the list goes on. This past March I really tried to find answers. I went on a gluten-free and dairy-free diet which improved my symptoms and I also tried to cut out most processed foods. I also met someone who introduced me to liver flushing (Moritz version.) I have completed 6 Liver Flushes and I have eliminated many stones in all but the very last flush. People have mentioned to me that it sounds like I have parasites, candida overgrowth, a list of other things, but I have never had anything confirmed. Recently I have noticed that when I have loose stools I see light yellowish mucus-like strings floating on the top. Some are small like half an inch and some were a few inches long. They are not big around. They do not move. They seriously just look like mucus strings. I have had mucus/fat in my stools before which makes me wonder if it is something more like parasites. I do want to get a stool culture soon, but I am curious what you all think this sounds like? Any advice or insight is appreciated!!!
Okay! Thank you for the information!! So this is a good thing since I am getting rid of some? I live in the middle of nowhere. Where do you get this kind of therapy? Are there any other ways I can get rid of this at home? Thanks again for your help!
You can order the chelating agents online- but it sounds like you are a rural farm girl somewhere and may not have extreme exposure. Do you or have you had silver fillings? If you do, you should remove them first before chelating. Definitely do a lot of research about chelation because it is potentially dangerous redistributing metals back in your brain and nervous system. Look up the chelation forums here and also google andy cutler and his protocol.
Keep liver flushing and experiment with raw garlic and ginger to help kill some of the colonies. Also, if and when you stop having the loose stools look into enema therapy to help remove the dead colonies.
We have debated over the years what those mucus formations are. I have seen many pictures from candida sufferers and have taken more than 50 I have passed myself after enemas and antifungal therapy. The fact is that candida cells are microscopy. The mycelial and germ tube phases are also microscopy. I have contacted microbiologists specialized in fungus regarding to this. The explanation I got is those formations are dead ephitelial tissue caused by an active fungal infection. Candida invades and digests tissues when infects them. The intestinal mucosal secretion is equivalent to the cheesy secretions women have when suffering an active vaginal candidiasis. That chessy secretion is dead vaginal tissues.
Anyway, the symptom is linked to a latent yeast infection.
People undergo specific anti fungal protocols and kill off fungal colonies. As they die they release acrid odor. Herxheimer reactions are experienced in conjunciton with their passing. They look, feel, and hold together like fungal colonies.
So they are obviously fungal colonies.
I don't know what is going on in your head when you describe candida as "microscopic" in an attempt to debunk the fact that what is being released are fungal colonies. Do you know what a colony is? How about an organism? Do you know that your body is made up of 60-75 trillion 'microscopic cells'? Really man, this is NOT rocket science.
Before to be so sure as you want to be, research, and before to be questioning what is in my head, open your to see if you can identify the kind of garbage you have in...
Candida cells CAN NOT be seen without a microscopy. The dead tissues are associated to a FUNGAL infection ( did you read it ??)
Of course, people feel die-off and relief after eliminating it. If you are combating the infection, there will be more dead tissue and mucus going out since new cells replace the infected tissues.
We have had more than one people in this forum who have taken samples to large hospitals, Etienne did it and another guy who works in a hospital did the same. The mucus were analyzed and they found only dead tissue. I have sent my pictures to Dr. Crandall, a yeast expert who recognize this syndrome ( more than 40 years studying only fungus ) She is recognized around the world in this field, Prof. Art Ayers, a prestigious microbiologist, both of them say candida cells can not be seen with a naked eye. What you see in a latent fungal infection is dead tissues as a result of candida enzymes and metabolites.
Stop propaganding the myths that don't allow people to be aware of the true.
Find online one picture of candida colonies taken without a microscopy and post it right here.
I am not posting it to argue with you but to allow other to know the true. It is just the Candida Forum s what are prolonging people suffering and spreading garbage since anybody can post here anything. I also thought they were candida colonies in spite I had trusted sources telling me the opposite. Finally, asking the experts and having those formations analyzed we know what they are.
There is no way of proving thats 100% candida just by looking at it. Did you send it to a lab and have it examined. Jorge might make some good $$ if he put a cash bet on what % of candida that discharge is. The bottom line is that candida is going to produce much more mucus and dead tissue than the dead organism itself. This has been evident with the 3 years of having colonics done.
It certainly is not "the bottom line" that candida is going to produce more mucus and dead tissue than the dead organism itself.
Has everyone abandoned common sense?
I have never, NEVER gotten a SINGLE strand or anything resembling these fungal colonies before I specifically began an intense and highly effective anti candida routine. And I had been seriously infected for over 15 years and was doing Colon Cleanses for years before. With the death of EACH COLONY I experienced obviously correlated heirxheimer reactions and released gas- a foul acrid odor. Soon afterwards, within hours, I released these fungal colonies like clockwork. They look and feel exactly like fungus.
So are you really trying to tell me that it was mucus and dead intestinal tissue being released? Intestinal tissue does not grow with twists and folds. You can take one of these colonies and try to flatten it out- and you will find that it does NOT flatten out because it has GROWN with those twists and folds, just like fungus.
I thought the same in the past. I was so sure they were fungal colonies that I could bet all my money on that. I was wrong. It is technically impossible to see the fungal colonies without a microscopy.
Women also see the cheesy vaginal secretions and those aren't candida cells.
Yes, I agree with you, those formations are associated to a fungal infection. They are the result of an active fungal infection. I have the same kind of pictures.
The fact is people have taken those formations to specialized labs ,and they have found nothing but dead tissue. Same answer I got from Dr. Crandall. I sent her my pictures. She believes in Intestinal Candidiasis because she suffered it herself.
Send me an email address in a PM. I will send you some pictures and her explanation about it.
"I thought the same in the past. I was so sure they were fungal colonies that I could bet all my money on that."
That sounds like a cognitive awareness of the truth.
"The fact is people have taken those formations to specialized labs ,and they have found nothing but dead tissue."
I have only come across one poster relaying their lab information and the results were merely "luminal contents". And it certainly wasn't a "specialized lab". That doesn't prove much of anything. If you knew what actually goes on in labs, you would know the appalling lack of protocol that often goes on during busy periods. Many have sent in copies of their actual PARASITES - VISIBLE Tapeworms only to be confirmed as NOT being parasites.
"It is NOT a helminth parasite (worm). I have seen the same material over the years of anti-fungal supplements, diet, herbs, medications, etc. - no enemas required.
I have had cultures of this material, and have also had a microbiologist study it for months. It is of the mold variety. I can guarantee it. Could be Candida or any number (multiple) strains of fungi. In my case, multiple slime molds and Candida.
Please do not waste any time and energy focusing on or concerning yourself with parasites (worms). Continue with whatever you are doing as it is apparently detoxing your system."
That is the point.! I have tried to find a proof they are candida colonies, candida biofilms, mycelia, or any other fungal form without success. I can not tell here it is candida only based in my opinion. It is true they come out when people follow an intensive antifungal program or enemas. It is true people feel relief after passing them to the point that many claim it is a cure. If you follow the logic, it will take you they are candida colonies.
Now, there is the other part. Technically, candida cells and colonies are microscopy. Search google images trying to find pictures of candida biofilms, mycelia, hyphae, or cells that don't be microscopic. I haven't found any, even biofilms on medical devices aren't seen without an instrument.
Moreover, I have gotten the same explanation from microbiologists and MDs.
So, I have to accept I can not affirm they are candida colonies when I can not proof it.
Looks like they dont want to accept what this is. How familiar. I dont trust any doctor and most of scientists. Its all too controlled, otherwise the world could go crazy if they would start telling REAL Science and not the fairy tales that keep things at bay (at the moment of course)...
Fact its, as you say, I felt relief specially in my mental symptom after passing those. Maybe they are dead tissue but boy that dead tisssue f***s you up and only comes out with active protocols.
Hello, havt to agree with jorge on this one, i have tons of that stuff coming out of me for years, and i have been doing every antifungal, even perscription with no change. I finally was just recently at the Cleveland clinic, and this stuff was also anylized and found to be just intestinal tissue.
A lot of people rule out the possibility that they are fungal colonies because of the sheer quantity of them- which is a mistake of course, because most people have no idea how bad a fungal infection can get. It is very possible for the intestines to hold hundreds of colonies.
People also underestimate just how quickly the fungal colonies can grow back. In your case, for instance, it is perfectly plausible to be releasing a colony every day or two and have the infection remain in place for years to the same degree. The weaker, younger colonies will ALWAYS die first before the mastermind colonies- which are huge, intelligent, and rooted deep in the intestines. So it makes perfect sense that since you began antifungals you have been eliminating some colonies here and then- it is the weaker ones that die from the treatment.
However- what I have been trying to stress for years now is the fact that ALL the colonies in the intestines must die and ESPECIALLY the mastercolonies. I have released colonies over a FOOT LONG with interconnecting strings branching out like an octopus. There is NO WAY intestinal tissue grows like that.
And so you can see, most of the "cures" people are touting such as nystatin enemas and "candida diets" are nothing more than maintenance programs which will kill off the weaker colonies at about the same rate they grow back. eventually the candida becomes immune to such weak treatments and they cease working and do not stand a CHANCE of killing the master colonies. I guarantee you posters like jorge will keep releasing fungal colonies with protocols like that for the rest of their life. It doesnt prove the colonies aren't fungus: it demonstrates that they will reproduce at the same rate candida grows.
Listen- you need intensity to kill candida. First you have to understand that those are FUNGAL colonies and that you must kill ALL OF THEM.
I don't know what kind of doctor or lab you sent your fungus to but obviously they did not perform an actual test on the sample because intestinal tissue does not look like, feel, like, or smell like dead fungal colonies. Only dead fungal colonies do- and that is precisely what these things are.
Many patients have brought ACTUAL, DEAD Tapeworms to their doctors and had them analyzed in labs only to confirm that there was NO parasite tissue present. What a load a bull.
Michael, right about now i believe anything. I can believe you becasue of your experience, but i also believe the Lab at the Cleveland clinic. They took me off all the perscription stuff becasue the amount i was on would have killed a horse, yet i never, felt any die off and never got even the slightest bit better. but i do believe they are hard to kill like you say. However, that also means we are all doomed, and if the amount of stuff i was taking didnt kill it, i dont think just a diet will. what do you think will do the trick. ?
This is why i think it is not candida, and i dont have it at all, Even though metametrix found something, they cant tell me what it is.
As i said, i have been sick for 6 years and seeing this stuff. And took so muc antifungals it should hav poured out of me. But while i was on them, i never saw any increase at all.
Sorry to jump in but that same lab at the Cleveland Clinic did not identify any parasites in my sample and the "fabulous" doctors there diagnosed me with IBS-D. In reality, I had Entamoeba Histolytica and have been EH free for almost 6 months.
Bottom line, no matter which elite institution it is, these doctors/labs simply cannot be trusted.