i have no real position on this matter, other than keeping an open mind and looking at the real world for evidence.
recently one of the forum owners on curezone wrote a long post about how terrible meat is and how it clogs your organs and such. i admit to reading this person's forum frequently but they are getting more and more imbalanced and irrational in their views imo. furthermore i am alarmed at the level of blatant censorship that goes on there. (there was a recent posting where ONLY positive experiences were allowed to be posted)
the long rant against meat and animal is so easily refuted (even by this person's own criteria) i thought i would just post a reminder here.
i'm sure everyone here knows about mark sisson. as they say a picture is worth a thousand words so...
dr schulze to me looks like a bloated pig compared to mark sisson. so while people can rant and rave all day long about the million reasons not to eat meat or for that matter not to do this or that, it is important to keep things simple and just look at the evidence of a man nearly 60 who could woop ass all over the preachy people.
there are many examples on his site of such people who are incredibly fit and healthy eating meat and saturated animal fats.
this is not a condemnation of vegetarianism or veganism; i try to keep an open mind.
recently this same person has gone into new territory and claimed also that people really are not fundamentally different. while in theory this sounds sort of viable, all you have to do is look to reality to know that one man's meat is another's poison. likely mark sisson would wither and die eating soaked grains and the forum owner who is espousing their ideas would balloon eating mark's daily fare of saturated animal fats.
i would also like to encourage people to be more discerning on this site and ask people who have established themselves as authority figures to put up or shut up. a guy like mark sisson puts himself out there, literally. he does not hide behind excuses for not revealing his identity and he has the goods and results to prove his theories.
i see a lot of forum owners here and so called authority figures preaching from high atop their mountains and at the end of the day how do we even know that they have the most rudimentary elements of good health, or that they themselves are not obese or can't run a few miles.
there was a post on that same forum from a very nice lady who frequently posts and i was sort of shocked when she said that she walked a few miles a day and realized that she felt really good doing so. one would think that after hundreds upon hundreds of posts about how to tincture x herb and the exact way to crinkle a lettuce leaf, that she could run a few marathons and then go to work the next day after not sleeping.
so just a word to the wise, please be very cautious in who you put your trust and make sure your leaders are capable of actually leading you to good health and not just dogmatic noodling.
interestingly that same forum owner has vehemently battled with another forum owner about certain health topics. the way i see it, both of them have their fair share of people really lagging in their healing progress. so i would say to these forum owners, spend less time arguing about who is right and devote that energy into helping the people on your forum who are in need of it.
and most importantly...
please have the humility to realize that your dogma is not necessarily correct and that you may be really hurting your followers by keeping them in your court. if someone has been on your forum for a year or more and is not progressing, send them to a different place. have the perspective and kindness to put the people who need help above your own need for egotistical gratification or validation that your way is the only way.