Is Oprah a Christian? That is a question that has become an incredibly hot topic over the past few years as Oprah Winfrey has transformed herself from being just a talk show host to being one of the world's most influential spiritual leaders. According to Forbes, Oprah Winfrey is worth well over a billion dollars, but these days she seems much more interested in spiritual matters than in building her empire. In fact, Oprah Winfrey has become such a spiritual icon in America that USAToday has called her "a spiritual leader for the new millennium, a moral voice of authority for the nation." Millions of Americans deeply respect what Oprah has to say, and it would be hard to overstate the influence she is having not only in the United States but also all around the globe. She has become a spiritual powerhouse, and she is changing hearts and minds every single day.
In an unscientific poll conducted on Beliefnet.com, 33 percent of the 6,600 respondents said that Oprah has had "a more profound impact" on their spiritual lives than their pastors or priests.
Just think about that for a moment. That is absolutely stunning.
Oprah's massive television audience of ten million viewers each day and her magazine readership of over 2.7 million each month gives Oprah a tremendous platform from which to influence American culture.
Without a doubt, Oprah Winfrey is one of the most highly respected and listened to celebrities in the world.
But is Oprah a Christian?
That is a very good question. The truth is that it is not for any of us to judge where anyone else is headed for eternity. Rather, the question we will ask today is whether or not what Oprah is publicly teaching is Christian or not.
Oprah is confusing a lot of people because she openly claims to be a Christian. That is how she identifies herself. But what she believes about God, faith, "salvation", heaven, hell and a whole host of other things directly contradicts the Bible.
According to renowned Christian apologist Josh McDowell, millions of Christians are being fooled by Oprah Winfrey because she uses Christian terminology and Christian traditions as a way to lure people into beliefs that are not Christian at all. A recent article in The Christian Post quoted what McDowell said at a recent conference about the different between the Christian God and the religion that Oprah is pushing.....
“The Christian God is a personal creator God which all truth resides, who is totally outside of ourselves and outside of our universe,” explained the best-selling author of More Than a Carpenter. “When Oprah and others refer to God, it is an impersonal force. And I think one way that comes out is that they will say, ‘Look within you and find yourself from within. Find that God-consciousness. That is God.’”
So if what Oprah Winfrey is pushing is not Christianity, then exactly what is it?
Take a few moments and imagine a religion where Jesus did not come to die on the cross, where there is no heaven, no hell, no sin, no salvation, no doctrine, where all spiritual paths in the world are equally valid and where "god" is in you and in everything else you see.
That is the religion of Oprah Winfrey.
It is also the New Age "one world religion" that many other spiritual gurus throughout the world have been trying to bring to fruition.
In fact, this religious movement is summed up very well by the lyrics of "Imagine" by the Beatles (who also were highly influenced by New Age religion).....
Imagine there's no heaven
It's easy if you try
No hell below us
Above us only sky
Imagine all the people
Living for today...
The truth is that there is a huge movement towards a one world religion where all spiritual paths are equally valid (except if you believe in Jesus Christ of course), and Oprah is right in the forefront of that movement.
So what, exactly, is Oprah teaching about "spirituality"?
Well, during one shocking national broadcast, Oprah Winfrey stated that Jesus did not come to the earth to die on the cross for our sins. You can see this stunning moment for yourself in the video posted below....
When I first saw this video I could hardly believe it. Instead of coming to die on the cross, Oprah told millions of her viewers that the real purpose for Jesus coming to earth was to teach all of us "Christ consciousness".
Oprah also told viewers recently: "I don't believe that Jesus came to start Christianity."
Oprah is also insisting that there could not possibly be "one way" to God, and that all "religions" are basically different paths to the same God. If you don't believe that Oprah would say this, just check out the video posted below....
So who does Oprah believe that God is?
Well, Oprah has been quoted as once stating the following....
"I believe in the FORCE-I call it God."
Jesus also has clearly renounced the divinity of Jesus Christ. To Oprah, the truth is that all of us are God....
"One of the most important books I've read is Eric Buttterworth's Discover the Power Within You. In it he said 'Jesus did not come to teach us how divine He was but to teach that divinity was within us.'"
For years, Oprah has promoted the teachings of New Age activists such as Shirley MacLaine. It turns out that Oprah believes that what Shirley MacLaine teaches is what the Bible has been trying to tell us all along. Just check out the following quote from Oprah....
"As I read more of Shirley MacLaine, crystals, and The Aquarian
Oprah has even conducted special online "studies" for her followers with her new spiritual "superstar", Eckhart Tolle.
During one of those sessions, Tolle told one caller, who confessed that she still feels guilty when she decides not to go to church on Sunday, that she must understand that "the voice" which encourages her to go to church is just social conditioning.
The following are just a couple of the incredibly disturbing things that Eckhart Tolle has written in his books:
"All religions are equally false and equally true, depending on how you use them."
"Man made God in his own image."
Oprah has also been promoting the teaching of New Age guru Marianne Williamson, and in fact she has given Williamson a radio show on the Oprah radio network to promote such beliefs as....
"There is no sin."
A "slain Christ has no meaning."
"Do not make the pathetic error of clinging to the old rugged cross."
"The recognition of God is the recognition of yourself."
These are the things that Oprah REALLY believes and has been promoting over television, radio, the Internet and in her magazine.
In Matthew 24:10-11, Jesus said:
At that time many will turn away from the faith and will betray and hate each other, and many false prophets will appear and deceive many people.
Oprah Winfrey is literally deceiving millions upon millions of people.
Have you been deceived by her?
Oprah claims that there are multiple ways to get to heaven.
If there was another way to heaven, then why did Jesus have to die on the cross?
If there were many other ways for our sins to be paid for, then why didn't Jesus just come down to earth, point out some of the various ways to get saved, and then go back into heaven?
Why did Jesus have to actually die on the cross?
The truth is that there was no other way for our sins to be paid for, and that the only way to God is through faith in the Lord Jesus Christ.
Whoever believes in the Son has eternal life, but whoever rejects the Son will not see life, for God's wrath remains on him.
Will you choose to believe Oprah or will you choose to believe the Word of God?
The "church of Oprah" is very appealing for millions of Americans because in her "faith", there is no sin, no need for salvation, no heaven, no hell and everyone is "god".
But it is all a big lie.
The truth is that we cannot just make up whatever we want about God and about religion.
The truth is that God loves all of us very much, but the world rejected God and embraced evil instead. All of us have violated God's laws and all of us are sinners.
But God loved us all so much that He sent His Son Jesus to die on the cross for our sins.
If you will repent of your sins and receive Jesus into your life by faith, your sins will be forgiven and you will be given eternal life.
The article is about her false Biblical teachings....not her salvation. Her salvation is between she and God. We all fall short of the glory of God in some way or another. If one thinks they have no need of scripture, or believe that they do not need correction or instruction in righteousness, then this post has little meaning for them.
Thy word is a lamp unto my feet, and a light unto my path. Psalms 119:105
Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me. John 5:39
...the holy scriptures, which are able to make thee wise unto salvation through faith which is in Christ Jesus. All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: 2 Timothy 3:15,16
So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God. Romans 10:17
Wherefore lay apart all filthiness and superfluity of naughtiness, and receive with meekness the engrafted word, which is able to save your souls. But be ye doers of the word, and not hearers only, deceiving your own selves. For if any be a hearer of the word, and not a doer,he is like unto a man beholding his natural face in a glass: For he beholdeth himself, and goeth his way, and straightway forgetteth what manner of man he was. But whoso looketh into the perfect law of liberty, and continueth therein, he being not a forgetful hearer, but a doer of the work, this man shall be blessed in his deed. James 1:21-25
Therefore shall ye lay up these my words in your heart and in your soul, and bind them for a sign upon your hand, that they may be as frontlets between your eyes. Deuteronomy 11:18
This book of the law shall not depart out of thy mouth; but thou shalt meditate therein day and night, that thous mayest observe to do according to all that is written therein: for then thous shalt make thy way prosperous, and then thous shalt have good success. Joshua 1:8
Being born again, not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible, by the word of God, which liveth and abideth for ever. 1 Peter 1:23
And now, brethren, I commend you to God, and to the word of his grace, which is able to build you up, and to give you an inheritance among all them which are sanctified. Acts 20:32
You state: "If Jesus died a natural death do you think people as a whole have less faith in God, and if so, why?"
Did the Bible say He died a natural death?
Do you believe people as a whole have "any" faith in God if Jesus did not sacrifice Himself to pay for our sins?
If Jesus was only a prophet or even as some christians say...we are all made in God's image, so we are all sons/daughters of the Most High....then would it be true that even you and I could make a statement that we came into this world to die a natural death for all to be saved?
As in......she is doing an interview with someone? That kind of questioning possibilities? This post is about what she teaches, believes and whether it is biblical. She is free to question anything....we all are....but christians can not ride the fence forever.
The apostle James warns against being double-minded. What is double-mindedness, and what are its consequences?
In his New Testament letter, the apostle James twice uses the term double-minded (James:1:8; 4:8). Being double-minded is a problem that can damage Christians and can manifest itself in several areas of their lives.
The Greek word translated "double-minded" is dipsuchos, from dis, meaning "twice," and psuche, meaning "mind." James uses it to describe someone who is divided in his interests or loyalties, wavering, uncertain, two-faced, half-hearted. We will see double-mindedness as a theme throughout his letter.
Even godly men in the Bible sometimes lapsed into double-mindedness. John, who baptized Jesus Christ, saw the Holy Spirit descend upon the Savior "in bodily form like a dove" and heard a voice from heaven declare, "You are My beloved Son; in You I am well pleased" (Luke:3:21-22). Yet, after landing in prison, where he would ultimately be beheaded, John sent men to Christ asking, "Are You the Coming One, or do we look for another?" (Luke:7:19-20).
John the Baptist was human, and we humans begin to doubt when God seems not to respond to our prayers during a crisis. Even though John's words reflected doubt, Christ described him as greater than any prophet born before him (Luke:7:28). We should be encouraged that, as we humbly seek God's will and way of life, He promises to remember us according to our victories in the faith, just as He considered John the Baptist.
Praying with doubt?
The first area of double-mindedness James addressed concerns how we pray (James:1:5-8). James describes one who is dubious and indecisive in prayer as "a double-minded man, unstable in all his ways."
Doubt and irresoluteness in our communication with God short-circuit our relationship with Him. Before asking God for anything, we should first ask ourselves questions that directly bear on our prayers:
Is what I am asking according to His will? The apostle John tells us why this is important: "Now this is the confidence that we have in Him, that if we ask anything according to His will, He hears us" (1 John:5:14, emphasis added throughout).
Are my attitude and life in tune with the will of God? John stresses the role of obedience: "And whatever we ask we receive from Him, because we keep His commandments and do those things that are pleasing in His sight" (1 John:3:22).
Are my motives self-centered or God-centered? James says be careful what you pray for: "You ask and do not receive, because you ask amiss, that you may spend it on your pleasures" (James:4:3).
If we can answer yes to the first two questions and "God-centered" to the third question, then we should have no problem staying single-minded in prayer. Of course, we can't earn or force a particular response from God. God responds to us according to His mercy and righteousness, not ours.
Hearing without doing?
James's second warning concerns the double-minded hearing of God's Word (James:1:22-25). He shows that double-mindedness can creep into our attitude, and he admonishes his readers to "be doers of the word, and not hearers only, deceiving yourselves" (verse 22). The follower of Christ should feel happy after reading God's Word, but reading the Bible should be a means to an end, to becoming Christlike. We should go beyond just feeling good to actually striving to be good. A pleasant, satisfied feeling can deceive us into thinking we have accomplished something when we haven't.
The story of the miraculous birth of Jesus Christ to His mother, Mary, has inspired many, and rightfully so. Yet few are motivated by the story to follow Christ's example and will.
Luke 11 tells the story of a woman so moved by the words and miracles of Jesus Christ that she exclaimed, "Blessed is the womb that bore You, and the breasts which nursed You!" But Christ responded with another perspective: "More than that, blessed are those who hear the word of God and keep it!" (verses 27-28).
Christ talked of imprudent people whose lives are not built on the Rock. Everyone "who hears these sayings of Mine and does not do them" is "foolish" (Matthew:7:24-26, emphasis added throughout). Conversely, those who want to obey Christ will "do" His sayings.
Although no one can earn salvation by anything he does, we can lose our salvation by being "hearers only" (Hebrews:2:1-4).
Our fellowship can mirror our double-mindedness, wrote James. Do wealthy church members receive special treatment when they "come into your assembly"? (James:2:2). The Greek for assembly is translated elsewhere as "congregation" and "synagogue." James addressed the conduct of Christians in their assemblies.
In some congregations in James's day, the rich apparently garnered more respect and qualified for better seating than did the poor. As a result, James admonished congregations not to show "partiality among yourselves" (verse 4) by having people's seating arrangements follow some ranking or pecking order of wealth or status.
James was aware of the problems that can result from hypocritical, two-faced fellowship, because he was indirectly involved in a conflict between the apostles Paul and Peter (Galatians:2:11-16). Peter showed partiality in fellowship when "certain men came from James" (verse 12). These verses show that Peter was as subject to human weakness as the rest of us. In this instance he "would eat with the Gentiles; but when they [Jewish believers sent from James] came, he withdrew and separated himself [from eating with the gentiles], fearing those who were of the circumcision."
Sadly, "the rest of the Jews also played the hypocrite with him, so that even Barnabas was carried away with their hypocrisy."
Peter grew into a great leader and man of God, but in this instance he strayed from a lesson Jesus had taught him years before through a vision. "In truth I perceived that God shows no partiality," Peter learned at the time of the revelation. "But in every nation whoever fears Him and works righteousness is accepted by Him" (Acts:10:34-35).
In the Greek theater, actors would speak (krinomai) from behind a mask (hypo). Together the Greek words for speak and mask form hupokrisis, from which we get our word hypocrisy. Are we ever so swayed by peer pressure that we figuratively wear masks around certain people to stay in their good graces? We must be vigilant to avoid straying outside the proper boundaries of being "all things to all men" (1 Corinthians:9:19-22) to the point of contradicting ourselves or, worse, contradicting God.
Jesus Christ sets the ultimate example of not being a "respecter of persons" (Acts:10:34, King James Version). This old English phrase doesn't mean we shouldn't respect anyone. A modern translation makes the meaning clear, that we should follow the example of God, who "shows no partiality." Jesus proved His impartiality by sacrificing His life for everyone, regardless of rank or privilege.
Ironically, when certain men sent by the Pharisees acknowledged that Jesus Christ did "not regard the person of men" (Matthew:22:16), they were speaking from behind a mask themselves because their motive was to "entangle Him in His talk" (verse 15). Needless to say, they failed.
Romans:2:11 confirms that "there is no partiality with God." Our Creator impartially judges us (Ephesians:6:9; Colossians:3:25; 1 Peter:1:17).
Next, James targets double-minded keeping of the law (James:2:8-13). For centuries the Christian world has been of two minds concerning God's law. Its double-mindedness has resulted in the breaking of "the royal law according to the scripture" (verse 8). The Old Testament records God's giving of the royal law, which is summarized in Leviticus 19: "You shall love your neighbor as yourself" (verse 18).
How does one break this law of love? A common way is the breaking of even "one point" (verse 10) of the royal law.
James goes from discussing the royal law of Leviticus:19:18 to enumerating the Ten Commandments. He cites two of the Commandments: the seventh, "Do not commit adultery," and the sixth, "Do not murder" (Exodus:20:13-14). He calls the Ten Commandments "the perfect law of liberty" (James:1:25)
The royal law, the perfect law of liberty, shows mankind the way to express love. When we read the 10 points of this law as summarized in the Commandments, we notice that the first four reflect love toward God and the last six depict love of our fellowman; that is, the love of our neighbor as ourselves (Leviticus:19:18; James:2:8).
James shows the double-mindedness of embracing one point of the Ten Commandments while breaking another point of this law of love. Notice that the breaking of one point of the law is the same as breaking the "whole law" (verses 10-11).
God's law expresses His will
Jesus Christ prophesied a time after His return when He will say to many who cry out to Him, "Lord, Lord." He will reply to some who say this: "I never knew you; depart from Me, you who practice lawlessness" (Matthew:7:21-23). Regardless of how much one believes in Him, Christ said that only "he who does the will of My Father in heaven" (verse 21) will enter His Kingdom. Here God's will and law are spoken of together, because His law is an expression of His will.
James warned against inconsistency in our obedience to God. It's much easier to pay lip service to the broad expression of God's royal law—love (Leviticus:19:18)—than to embrace the specifics of it (Exodus:20:1-17). After all, without specifics each person decides for himself what love is. The Bible, however, plainly defines love: "For this is the love of God, that we keep His commandments. And His commandments are not burdensome" (1 John:5:3).
What sin do you hate the most? Stealing? Lying? Adultery? God wants us to hate every sin. He wants us to hate the breaking of any of the Ten Commandments, as well as anything else that is not "pleasing in His sight" (1 John:3:22).
Faith without works?
Double-minded faith (James:2:14-26) is not the wavering in one's belief in God. Rather, double-minded faith is believing in God without performing the actions, or the "works," that reflect that belief. James wanted his readers to know that faith means more than just belief in God. Every Christian should be aware that "faith without works is dead" (verse 20). James challenges us to show tangible evidence of our beliefs: "Show me your faith without works, and I will show you my faith by my works" (verse 18).
Belief is not enough, he says. "Even the demons believe-and tremble!" (verse 19). It is much easier to tremble at the thought of God's existence than it is to fear to disobey God. A classic example is ancient Israel. The Israelites quaked with fear before God's awesome presence when God gave them the Ten Commandments (Exodus:20:18-19). But, when they could no longer see the evidence of God's nearness to them, they fabricated a golden calf (Exodus 32) while they should have been trembling at the explicit instructions God had revealed to them.
Of Abraham's example of faith, James poses a question for every Christian: "Do you see that faith was working together with his works, and by works faith was made perfect?" (James:2:22).
Have you ever tried to keep from saying the wrong thing but you just couldn't, and an inappropriate comment just popped out of your mouth? Of course, you have.
If with our tongue "we bless our God and Father, and with it we curse men" (James:3:9), then we're speaking out of both sides of our mouth and are, therefore, double-minded (verses 1-12). James calls the tongue "an unruly evil, full of deadly poison," because abusive conversation can undermine the powerful influences of prayer, the inspired reading of God's Word, the impartial treatment of people, and faith with works.
Before passing along information that could hurt someone, we should ask ourselves: Does this need to be said, or do I just want to say it? Would more harm come by saying it or not saying it? If it needs to be said, am I sharing it with the right person?
Imagine how the news and entertainment media, politics and our social lives could be enhanced and improved if we were to first think things through the way James thought them through.
"For we often stumble and fall, all of us. If there is any one who never stumbles in speech, that man has reached maturity of character and is able to curb his whole nature" (James:3:2, Weymouth New Testament). Our conversation—our speech—speaks to our spiritual maturity or lack of it.
From the heart
Before examining the words that flow from our mouth we should examine the thoughts of our minds and hearts, for, as Jesus said, "out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaks" (Matthew:12:34).
We cannot always control what we hear, but we can control what we hold dear in our hearts. Each day Satan, the "prince of the power of the air" (Ephesians:2:2), relentlessly inspires a multitude of improper thoughts. We must "take captive every thought to make it obedient to Christ" (2 Corinthians:10:5, New International Version).
We are bombarded with "corrupt" communication (Ephesians:4:29) from coworkers, fellow students and acquaintances. Movies and magazines transmit values, morals and behavior far removed from those God expects of His followers.
Nevertheless, we must assimilate God's words and ideals; they must become a part of us; we must keep them in our minds and hearts. "Purify your hearts, you double-minded," counsels the writer of the epistle (James:4:8). We should pray without doubting, read God's Word with great care, fellowship without bias, have faith while consistently keeping God's law, and speak edifying words that inspire friends and brethren to honor God.
With single-minded attention to God's will as shown in His Word, we can draw near to God and He will draw near to us.
It is not I that is in question but the views of Opray Winfrey would you not agree, but I did ask questions in regards but did not recieve a straight answer, if any, from you.
If you wish to take the time to read this article, what one will observe is biblical over the question of Jesus life/death then one must keep an open mind, otherwise one might be hidden from the truth, whatever it might be.
It does not mean I believe this article in it's entirety but there are many questions that go unanswered due to so many interpretations of the bible and the question of the threat of heresy in the past which has begged the question, why?.
I chosen Islamic because a Christian article would reply the way you are precisely.
It appears you shun the authors unless they concur with you so I feel you fear what might be the truth.
Jesus said "Seek the truth and the truth will set you free"
[[[ A person has to know who Jesus REALLY is to fight all the deception that is in the world. ]]]
So, if Jesus did not die on the cross you would disown him, yes?
Yes of course you would because in your eyes there would be no resurrection for you.
If resurrection is the "end game" for Christians don't you find that a little selfish?
Lets look at this word "Resurrection" how did it come about.
“Lot of modern people confuse the term Resurrection with life after death. Resurrection is a Hebrew idea. And it is notion that someone is in the world of the dead which the Hebrew called ‘Shiol’ and the body is been buried and they resuscitated ! they come back! Term we might use today would be resuscitation more then resuscitation. We do have stories both from the modern world and the ancient world, where people appear to be dead and for all practical purposes they are dead - that is they are not responding to the outside world but then they do revive or come back. We call it resuscitation - but if you want to press the language that would be resuscitation”. (James Tabor, Professor of Religious Studies, University of North Carolina)
That to you is "deception" I guess because it questions the very heart of "Christianity".
20 million USA citizens experience a "near death experience", could that not have been the case in regards to Jesus and if that were so would that make you see Jesus in a lesser light and if so why.
Does his death become more important than his LIFE?
Well it appears so in the mind of a Christian because it seems the followers want a life after their death, a long one at that.
It seems inconceivable that a godly person would seek such a thing. So instead of living a righteous life, raising their offspring, happily living their lives within the laws of God (love) and accepting the inevitability of their own demise, Christians appear to relish that but with the addition of resurrection due to them for their efforts.
Of course if one strays from the path, they then are told the they face a fiery hell unless one ask's God for forgiveness and forever more live the life as laid down by God.
Sedition was the act to enforce the populace to adhere to a religious belonging otherwise they were dealt with by these so-called God loving believers. So it questions the "real-Jesus" statement that you speak of, and opens up many questions because if one is forced to "believe" something then doubt is caste upon the subject in hand.
Refreshed, my reply to you is not wholly the view of Islamics, many articles I have read over a long time share the same views but you have subjected my reply to it's author and not it's content which I ask you to do but failed. To me and perhaps others it might conclude that you will not or cannot abide anothers point of view albeit you threw the question up in the first place.
I had similar thoughts as Oprah Winfrey some time back.
She drew similar conclusions as I did at the time and those conclusions remain with me now. The only difference is, she is not held inside by parameters set by religions confines as yourself.
Without the Son of God and His desire to do what needed to be done on our behave, man would earn his own salvation and pay for his own sins.
This is what Islam teaches, that man earns his own salvation.
Christ, God's Son, died for our sins (on the cross) according to the inspired Word of God (1 Cor. 15:3,4)
For Christians...Sin is proud, independent rebellion against God in active or passive form (Rom 1:18-23 3:10,23)
For Islam...Sin is failure to do Allah's will, failure to do one's religious duties as outlined in the 5 Pillars of the Faith. In other words...it's all on their shoulders for not living up to what God expected of them....just like it does in Judaism.
In Matthew 11:28,30 the bible says "Come to me, all you who are weary and burdened, and I will give you rest...For my yoke is easy and my burden is light"
As Christians we have assurance of salvation if we abide in Christ.
Choose you this day which you will serve....a dead prophet (a man) that left the 5 pillars in people's laps to deal with and no assurance of salvation....... or Christ the Living Savior (God), who will free anyone who truly believes.
You stated: "So, if Jesus did not die on the cross you would disown him, yes?"
You tell me what you think....If Jesus didn't die on the cross and if me being a believer in God and knowing that I will die in my sins because I'm not perfect enough to stand in God's presence... knowing that Jesus didn't die on the cross and animal blood sacrifices were not enough.... then compare it to....
If I was muslim and thinking if I only worked hard enough to go to heaven and died and found out I had worked my whole life and sacrificed so much to only find that I was going to hell. You tell me which one is going to be upset? The one who knew all along they were a sinner and needed a savior that could actually save them, or the one who worked so hard on saving one's self?
You have spun this debate on top of which you are referring muslims in your reply as if I were so.
I am not a muslim, you must ask a muslim for their opinion.
Yes I used a muslim's W/S for examples but if you wish there are many other W/Ss that have similar views do you wish for me to show another example of what people think?
In fact most of that I showed you I could have written myself, it is NOT a muslim point of view per se.
So I will remind you of what I answered you at the outset below.
Now if you don't find it comfortable to answer, say so.
And by the way I dont seek redemption for I don't believe such a thing exists.
Heaven and hell belongs to certain religious denominations.
I belong to no religion because my spirituality is mine, it does not belong to others to mess around with and be told by them that I must behave or suffer the consequences.
I live by God's Law which is love and that being would not wish to punish others that do not obey Gods Law.
If you believe in a hell then you must take a long look at yourself madam for it does not go along with the Law of God.
For your reminder of my original post on this subject:-
You quoted .......
[[[ Whoever believes in the Son has eternal life, but whoever rejects the Son will not see life, for God's wrath remains on him.
-John 3:36 ]]]
My reply to you ......
Refreshed, are you saying that because Oprah does not believe Jesus died on the cross in turn mean that she does not believe in him?
If Jesus did not die on the cross that would turn Christianity upside down because it hinges on that concept doesn't it?
If Jesus died a natural death do you think people as a whole have less faith in God, and if so, why?
Do you think that Jesus dying for our sins is the cornerstone of Christianity?
there is infinite substance to live as we are the work of that matter. A belief cannot stop us from what we have to do/involve to live and it gets us to the unknown to come back into known as living matter but here God has to be in us as a starting point. In our belief each one has to find or stand real love that God gives as light for the matter of life.
Our anger always tries to find a point to start outside matter itself and projects the illusion to control and kill and we use it for our living and ever struggle to end up in dust. Science wants to know about the dust, a Science out of soullessness, out of those who sees only their illusion for making a living. So even science or material values is a belief but where is the stand from where the light is real but not a light just inside a mind because is not of God the real creator. Time goes by and we decide the end and belief in this.
we need to stand in that source where God speaks to us in life not illusion for eternal sorrow. we live here and in real love given that one changes from that suffering used to cause more suffering, as he uses ever anger to his defensive ego/attitude and to make a living/money out of his death, into less suffering used by having God involve to neutralizes the dark side.
We need to change pain into Love then God will give you his creation and he knows this more then us..
Why we use pain to cause more anger and thus more pain, where is the real inteligence in us to tell you that this is right - may be Satan himself, evil men who wants just to live inside the illusion or dead mind for protection and makes words as tools for control of other, and things against life itself and not as expression of real livingLove to life.
where these men stand in spirit, you can answer this?
Then the double mind or face of the coin or duality sees the dark side for the blind very convenient to create deception as hot cakes to sell. It is all evil anger used and not Love from the light of the matter of life.
what is that which enable to stand to God or to stand inside that Love out of which one sees what he really loves?
Have we under a name got this what we really want.
Let us reflect; it will answer all of us. I believe in way God will.
[[[ Take a few moments and imagine a religion where Jesus did not come to die on the cross, (## where there is no heaven, ##) no hell, no sin, no salvation, no doctrine, where all spiritual paths in the world are equally valid and where "god" is in you and in everything else you see. ]]]
[[[ Oprah claims that there are multiple ways to get to heaven. ]]]
This is confusing,does Oprey believe there is a heaven or not?
[[[ People make the mistake that because God imparts His Holy Spirit to us that we become gods too, like Him. Some believe we are only demi-gods under God's authority. ]]]
There are no gods but one "Our Heavenly Father"
The Holy Spirit is our unity with God, our source of communication from God, and the guarantee that we are His children. For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, these are sons of God. For you did not receive the spirit of bondage again to fear, but you received the Spirit of adoption by whom we cry out, "Abba, Father." The Spirit Himself bears witness with our spirit that we are children of God, and if children, then heirs; heirs of God and joint heirs with Christ, if indeed we suffer with Him, that we may also be glorified together. (Rom 8:14-17)
just a thought
god words: do not kill then how can he send Jesus to be killed?
How could elites kill Gaddafi and he others?
how could that be men do not know what they want?
why are each of us not in a connection to the Father, abba = love?
why we have invented time beyond the horizon of just a day, beyond what we see with our heart and hands, far into a desire to be fulfilled not here in God kingdom - he has so much cared to put things for endless wonder and livingjoy for all?
why we live in a mind that only care to poison our subsistance and force us to care for what we have to feed on for we are the ones responsible who poison it for making a living then have to neutralize it and be the ones to control ourselves not to eat at all?
may be killing to live is a sin so one has to become aware not to kill...
"Man made God in his own image" wow!!!
"There is no sin" unbelievable!!!
"A slain Christ has no meaning"
Then our God is a sadist. I don't think so!!!
People throughout the ages have always liked to have "their ears tickled" they will have an eternity to scratch their itching ears!!!