I have recently been trying a regimen of baking soda and coconut oil. In the past I have tried everything for seborrheic dermatitis including topical steroids (yuck), oral antibiotics, ketoconazole, and various creams and lotions. Some things have worked periodically for short amounts of time in the past, but the disease seems to always come back and often worse then it was before. I have had this disease for the past 7 years (currently 23 y.o. male) and it has recently got a little worse so I figured I’d give this a go. And please everyone reading this do not trust your dermatologists and never put steroids on your face!!
I currently am following a regimen I read on this site and am having interesting results. I am taking a small (half coffee spoon) amount of 100% pure baking soda orally in about 8 ounces of water once every morning along with my normal vitamins (Vit. D, and Omega 3s). Then every night I wash my face with about a teaspoon of baking soda diluted in 12oz of water. I let this wash stay on my t zone, where my seb derm is for about 2-5 minutes then wash it of with cold water. This definitely burnt at first but has gotten better with each application. Once the baking soda is completely removed with cold water I apply a small amount of 100% virgin coconut oil to the affected areas while still wet to relieve the dryness discomfort and to sooth. I have tried leaving water with small traces of baking soda on it under the coconut oil over night which I heard works wonders for some, however I am worried this may be to harsh for my sensitive skin and may promote burning. In the morning I shower as usual not washing my dermatitis with any soaps. Then after the shower I apply Cerave lotion (extremely clean product for sensitive skin) on my dermatitis which has been very flaky since starting the regimen. I would prefer to use coconut oil and less products in general however the coconut oil makes my face to greasy, as I work front of the house in a very nice busy restaurant.
I have definitely seen results with this method and my derm is changing however not necessarily for the better….. hopefully yet. Although it is much better today (day 6) from when I initially started this treatment, considering the redness it is still worse then it was at first. The redness and dermatitis seemed to slightly spread and get angry at the baking soda, hopefully aggravated because it is dyeing. I’m hoping that this initial negative reaction was due to my skin not being used to these organic products. Also from the recent stoppage of steroids.
I began this routine about 5 days ago on April 21st. Currently my T zone where I suffer from seborrhea dermatitis is very dry and red from the regimen. However I read that this is likely to happen and should be expected for the first week. I’m hoping these are normal signs and I should expect significant positive results over the next couple weeks. Because this treatment takes time I will definitely be giving it a month but I am looking for some advice on how to alter my regimen to be more successful and just wanted to verify with anyone that may have tried this with success if what I am doing is correct. I would hate to damage my skin more, or burn it with the baking soda. I’m open to all suggestions.. Here are a few of my most prominent
I will only take baking soda orally at small dosages for a month to help kill yeast but not damage my gut, is this still ok?
Should I only apply baking soda every other night instead of every night, or a couple times a week to alleviate dryness and redness reactions?
Is it more important to wash with baking soda or leave it on over night? If so how often is recommended?
- I would hate to not use it enough because I am striving to help my symptoms in the long run.. But equally do not want to use it too much to damage and burn my skin further. I’m sure if I used it less the dryness and redness would be reduced but will I gain the same desired results (elimination in the long run).
Should I be using Cerave (lotion) in the day or just stick with coconut oil?
Should I be doing this morning and night? If not what should my morning routine look like?
I have also not began to take coconut oil orally, should I and if so how much?
Thanks for all the help and my best wishes to you all. I definitely agree that using natural organic products are the way to go and a means to an end of this disease, rather than the crap your dermatologist wants you to use and become addicted to.
Hope to hear some feedback soon,
i don't think i would have the guts to put something like baking soda
on my seb derm in fear of irritation and burning my already sensitive
skin. Let me tell you my method of controlling my sd and it might you.
first off im 99% sure that sd is caused by candida overgrowth in the intestines whilich then rapidly transforms into a fungal infection.
from what i've discovered through reading tons of info and trough my own
trial and error is that the candida yeast affects the oily parts of the body
chest, t zone, scalp, around ears and mainly scalp, they qre just some of the places it can cause problems. Now i know that for me diet is the key in
keeping most of my sd away. i have been on the candida diet for 6 months and it has helped me so much. so i would reccomend thet you try a low carb and zero Sugar diet. its not very fun but once you start to see results you will no its worth the pain of restricting yourself as you get better you can add more things back to your diet. while on my diet i take
100% pure coconut oil and am now replinshingmy stomach with loads of
probiotics. As for my skin regiment i use a product called cocozone, you can get it from the finchley clinic, its very expensive but it quality can not be beat. its a very high grade virgin coconut oil that has been ozonated
that makes it very powerful againts infected skin such as sd. it has done wonders for my skin, i have tried just coconut oil but that gave me pimples and didn't work very well but cocozone is second to none. what i do is every other night i willrun a hot bath let my face sweat which helps with any dead skin then i exfolliate with the oil, let it sit on my skin for 5 mins. then just rinse it with warm water. my skin is left completly flake free and glowing with health. its called the oil cleansing method. i do not put any artificial products on my skin just that. no creams nothing. and it stays beautiful. i find that the oil cleasing method is the best for my sd beacause the oil is king at removing plugs and dead skin cells. especially when your face is sweating. sorry for the long essay but i just want to help others
because i know what a bitch sd is. let me just say that i've had the worst sd ever and now you woudn't never believe it if you saw me. hope this helps Good Luck
I'm losing patients and thinking about giving up on this treatment. I started using baking soda and coconut oil a little over a week ago and my skin has never looked worse. I dont know if this is the "dieing off effect", or if that even exists, but my dermatitis is extremely inflamed, flaking some, and seems to be showing up in more and more spots. I hope this is a normal reaction when starting this treatment. I'm starting my work week today and this is extremely embarrassing.
I will stop using baking soda as much and I am going to start using it simply as a dilluted wash i leave on my face for a couple minutes in the shower every couple days. I will continue to use the coconut oil in light amounts daily as a moisturizer, always applying to wet skin only.
If anyone has any advice or experience with this i would greatly appreciate it.
a lot of people swear on using coconut oil. if you google penetration of the root or hair follicle, you will see that coconut oil comes up. i'm increasingly thinking that the reason for coconut oil's efficacy is that the oil can go down into the tip of the root and hair shaft where the yeast infection of SD begins.
(see my update on the early 1900's era SD treatment protocol post today).
right now i am using a mix of coconut oil and chopped garlic on my face (when i'm not going out!), and trying that out.
sorry to hear that some of you are having a reaction. one of the things that makes SD treatment so difficult is the dual diagnosis of the condition and the individual; it varies so greatly.
Its sounds like the baking soda is burning your skin. i would no longer use it on your face anymore. the fact that your skin is more red and damaged
is a sign that the baking soda is to strong for your skin. As i said in my earlier post i would never put something that powerful on my face.
As for the coconut oil i found that ozonated coconut oil works better then normal oil because its more potent in its ability to heal. Something to do with the ozone process enhances the oils healing properties.
The way i keep my sd under control very nicely is to wash your face with nothing but a very mild non alcohol cleanser, something soothing like nivea sensitive face wash for men, then once you get out shower let your skin air dry but do not rub it with a towel or even pat it, just let it dry natrually. most towels carry lots of bacteria on them so you don't want that on your face. once your face is completly dry get a bit of oil about the size of a pea, i use a little glass container and let it sit into some warm water so it melts then with your fingers dip it into the melted oil and gently apply it to all your face. Now you might feel all the dry little bit of skin on your skin as your put the oil on your skin and as you slowly massage the oil over your face you will feel the oil removing all the flakes and crustyness.
oil is the best for cleaning the skin because it can penetrate deep into the pores. once you've applied the oil and removed the dead skin just leave your skin. Now the best time to do this is always before you go to bed because your face will be left a bit red and greasy looking but in the morning splash your face a few times with warm water but not to hot and let it rinse some of the oil away, your skin might still be a little red from the oil but it will settle. try this for a few days and it should even out your skin tone and it will defo make it smoother and softer looking. Good Luck and i hope it helps.
I really appreciate the helpful advice and compassion coming from this forum, and hope that there is more to come. Through communication we all can help eachother successful battle this disease and work towards finding a long lasting regimen/cure. I agree i think every regimen and reaction completely depends on the individual and some messing around to find one that works for you will take a little time.
I also think that for me personally baking soda is a little harsh for my face, especially when used constantly. Instead of using the baking soda daily i think I will use it as a wash about twice a week for another couple weeks to see what happens and not quite give up yet on it. I mean according to others I've been through the worst "dying off" phase so I might as well stick it out for another couple weeks.
For some reason my skin seems to be more greasy in general all over lately not sure if it is the change in weather or what. To control this i will be getting the Nivea sensitive face wash for men, thanks for the advice "coolvibe". I have been using Nivea sensitive skin after shave lotion and have found nothing better in the past. I get razor burn easy due to my sensitive skin and this has helped some. I also use aloe for razor burn. Any suggestions on how to prevent razor burn would be helpful as well. I'm currently thinking about switching from electric to gillette fusion to shave with the grain rather then against it and to keep bacteria from building in the electric razor foil.
Once I have washed my face in the shower i will no longer use a towel to pat dry and will simply let my face air dry. I will then apply to the wet skin a small amount of melted coconut oil in soft circles to the affected areas to remove the dry dead skin and moisturize. I will be doing this in the mornings because i shower before work. at night i will simply wash my face with the nivea face wash, rinse with cold water, and again apply a very small amount of coconut oil. Do you think this would be using to much coconut oil? would you recommend just at night... Or a sensitive lotion in the day to hide some dryness but not become as inflammed...
Also depending on my results in the near future, i will look into getting ozonated coconut oil instead of simply virgin coconut oil. Even though it seems to be only online and fairly expensive. "coolvibe" did this make a big difference when switching?
Again thank you so much for the advice. I really appreciate it and it is so helpful and supportive. I can not thank this forum enough especially "coolvibe" for all the insight.