HI----After having gallbladder problems for over 3 YEARS, I finally found something that has worked for me! I have been doing this for one month now and am down from ALL-DAY ATTACKS that continued for a week, to 1-2 episodes of five-minute back pain! The "distended feeling under my right rib" is gone! It is worth a try, easier than these flushes------with no risk of stones getting stuck in ducts, vomiting excessively, possible visits to ER, drinking foul-tasting stuff, etc. Here is what I did to get rid of my pain!
EVERY NIGHT, castor oil packs using castor oil with a heating pad, usually 2-3 hours at a time...(perfectly safe to use, old remedy, I have been doing this now for a month)
Daily, drink APPLE JUICE AND GRAPE JUICE as well as loads of water. NO fried or fatty foods. No chocolate!
Taurine (an amino acid) 2000 mg daily----mice were made to get Gallstones by chemical induction and then given taurine daily and all the mice's Gallstones disappeared! (Taurine is known as the "savior of the gallbladder!")
Milk thistle--(cleanses and repairs LIVER) ---3 capsules per day
N-acetyl cysteine (amino acid---1200 mg daily
Beet root (500 mg-----6 capsules per day)
Spirulina---six 500 mg capsules per day--(green SUPERFOOD--this will REALLY clean you out!)
Calcium/Magnesium Citrate w/Vit D----3 caps daily (relaxes muscle spasms in the back)
Chamomile capsules----4 per day---an antispasmodic---relaxes back spasms
Hydrangea Root Tincture (liquid)---2 dropperfuls per day (yucky taste!)
Vitamin C----2000 mg daily and Vitamin E-----400 IU daily
At these doses, all 10 of these supplements are safe----the most expensive one is the N-acetly cysteine, (about $15)
All these cost me about $40 month----way less than the $10-15,000 for GB surgery....give it a try if you don't want to try flushes! I am certainly glad I did! Good luck to all!
Evidence and experience indicates that Gallstones are often (but not always) an indication of a problem elsewhere, mostly in the liver.
Flushing may clean the whole biliary system and restore its natural function and the balance of chemical production in the body. Another goal of flushing is to establish the cycle of cholesterol from blood to discharge as this appears to help the metabolism and benefits health.
Fat in some form in the diet exercises the gallbladder maintaining a strong reflex and full evacuation of the stored bile in the gall bladder.
Were you ever sick and did you ever get a stone stuck?
You might be feeling fine but can you let us know after some time what the ultrasound says.
From all I have read, and my own experience, it seems to be impossible to get rid of calcified stones any other way.
In my case even the big stone (1") is still there but because of flushing the inflammation is gone, the thickened wall went back to normal, from 42mm to 3mm.
The stone had blocked the gallbladder neck, what created all the problems, because of flushing it became free floating and the bile flow started up again and the gallbladder healed itself.
I am now stone (soft stones) and symptoms free, can eat anything, but the stone still shows on the ultrasound.
After 3 years I have used every supplement mentioned for breaking up the stones, no change.
The good thing about flushing besides getting rid off stones, my allergies are gone and I was able to get off my anti-depressant medicine.
Hi, thanks for the reply. In my research, even calcified Gallstones CAN be gotten rid of with CONTINUED LONG-TERM intake of taurine and Vitamin C, of course assuming you have the time to do that and are not in repeated acute episodes that could be life-threatening. Do not be foolish with risks to your health, of course! Apparently Gallstones cannot co-existent with constant intake of taurine. Malic acid also can dissolve them. Interesting, did you know that taurine is required to produce bile? Taking taurine improves bile flow and keeps it thin enough to PREVENT stones. Taurine also INCREASES THE PRODUCTION OF CHENODEOXYCHOLIC ACID by 70% percent----chenodeoxycholic acid is a DRUG PRESCRIBED BY DOCTORS FOR GALLSTONES! Why would I take a dangerous drug when taurine can boost the production NATURALLY of the same thing in my body? Taurine has also been with urodeoxycholic acid, the drug that is prescribed for DISSOLVING CHOLESTEROL GALLBLADDER STONES! Vit C BREAKS DOWN cholesterol to bile and also RAISES the NATURAL PRODUCTION of urodeoxycholic acid. Vit C every 1-2 hrs during an acute attack, 1000-2000mg at a time until you reach your tolerance (which is diarrhea), with NAC, can help. NAC can speed BREAKUP of gallstones, proven in lab studies.
As far as my personal ultrasound, I have had 3, as well as one mormal HIDA scan. The gallbladder wall was normal size, no sludge, no stones seen, no dilated ducts, pancreas, liver, spleen and kidneys imaged as normal....three times. Since I have all the symptoms of gallbladder disease, I assusme I either have "sand" or stones too small to be seen or truly have acalculous situation. My last high-definition ulrasound done at a major medical center was two weeks ago.
I will try my supplement protocol and maybe at some point might try a mini daily Liver Flush to see what happens. May the LORD heal all who ask. Know this is a liver forum, so will not post here again!
Oh no, do post here again. Where else are you suppose to post this info. We are to be open to all the help and experience that people have to give. I don't think Tellman meant to discourage you from posting your info. just that most people come here to know how to succussfully flush. Your info. is valid and informative. Thank you for sharing it.
Please keep the group informed about how you get on. You have remind us all that they are different ways to tackle a health problem and that we mustn't be too precious about our own beliefs. Keep in mind that this is liver flushing support forum that also happens to one of the more lively groups on curezone and although we like to be informed and educated it is not at the expense of flushing.
The information below in to help clarrify a few issue raised within these threads.
There are several different types of "gallstone conditions" some of which are cause by a single event such as bacteria in the biliary tree and other by chemical imbalances, liver conditions and other factors.
Black and brown pigment stones which are usually radio-opaque (show up on an x-ray) are in the minority and may even be attached to the viscous inner layer of the gall bladder. These can be extremely difficult to remove by flushing and may be helped by the use of supplements to dissolve them and dilute the thick mucus in which they are suspended. Biliary sludge being dense but not as dense as pigment stones will show up clearly on a ultrasound. Common "green Cholesterol stones" which have a very similar density to bile often do show up in an ultrasound examination.
Even so some stones will not even dissolve but you won't know until you try which can take quite a long time even years. Half the people that have pigment Gallstones also have an underlying liver condition and/or a reduced gallbladder function.
If you eat a "normal meal", for example, having a mix of protein (15%), carbohydrate (60%) and fat (25%) a fully functioning gallbladder will usually empty by about 75%. Occasionally it may be beneficial to eat more "good" fat to encourage a greater emptying.
you mentioned taking many different stone breakers, and since I don't want to waste my money, I would really appreciate it if you would list them. There's no doubt there are many remedies out there that are expensive and just don't work!
Thanks in advance,
You are ABSOLETLY CORRECT!!! You MUST consume "good fats" every day or get the gallbladder gets sluggish and stagnated and does not work correctly------just don't eat TRANS-FATS---french fries, chips, cheezes, processed "garbage" foods, fast foods-----eat olive oils and the Mediterranean diet-style-----in fact, LOF-FAT DIETS AND RAPID WEIGHT LOSS ARE A CAUSE OF GALLSTONES! Eat healthy!
I am glad you are feeling better. I would suggest though, that you up your Vitamin C intake. When taking NAC, you should be taking 2-3 times that amount of Vit C. So for your 1200mg of NAC, you should be taking at least 2400 mg Vit C. The NAC utilizes the C to make glutathione.
Thank you, will do! Actually some days I take MUCH more than 2000 mg Vit c, as you really cannot take too much Vit C---it is simply excreted in the urine if not needed by the body. Dr Linus Pauling felt that Vit C was THE cure for EVERYTHING, icnluding cancer. Studies have proven that high intake of Vit C AND Vit E can really help PREVENT gallstones.
Can you tell me where you read this information.
We all wish that it was true, but you have to understand a lot of us have heard these stories before and people try it and we don't hear from them anymore.
I have been working on my calcified 1" stone for 3 years after trying malic acid, chanca piedra for months, phosfood, lemon and peppermint oil, stone crusher, eating an apple every day,gold coin grass, coptis and there was another one, that's all I can think of now.
I have done 47 flushes and my flushes are stone free now and all my gallbladder symptoms are gone. I went back for my ultrasound and my 1" stone is still there, no change in size after doing months of different supplements.
Since you only have gallbladder symptoms and no calcified stones, I had also a thickened wall and inflammation, which is gone from flushing, you might be helped by just taking supplements. The problem is that most symptoms also come from the liver, a lot of people that come here after gallbladder surgery still have to do flushes to get the liver clean because their symptoms come back.
So have my best wishes and let us know in a year if you are symptom free without taking supplements.
Dear Hanna-----Every time I post here, you seem to reply with a skeptical answer! Dear friend, there are ALWAYS more than one way to approach any problem in life! The things you mentioned you have tried are NOT the quality supplements I am on-----you must try taurine---the research there IS solid! Gallstones cannot exist in the continued presence of taurine! It may take a long time, but if it works for me and I am not in an acute life-threatening situation, I am content to do what I am doing now. That is not to say that it will work for YOU--but it may work for others here who are not too "far gone" with their stone situation. I never said I expected to be SUPPLEMENT FREE in a year--I fully intend to be taking taurine and my other supplemtns from now on--s I have done for years! AT $10 a bottle for 90 easy-to-swallow capsules, I am perfectly happy to do as I am now----I would rather swallow my supplements than the flush ingedients and know I am going to vomit and feel ill. It is always your choice! To good health....
Forgot something---to Hanna-----Yes, GB symptoms DO come from the liver--therefore, taking MILK THISTLE DAILY WILL CLEANSE AND EVEN REJUVENATE THE DAMAGED LIVER! Milk thistle is also VERY WELL researched and has been used safely for a long time......it is a very potent liver cleanser---start today and maybe Gallstones will never be a problem in the future--cleanse the liver and you cleanse the gallbladder as well.....
See my last post I mentioned them and I can add chinese bitters to that.
Here is a link from Spirit (webmaster and curezone originator) about softeners. http://www.curezone.com/forums/m.asp?f=73&i=462
A lot of people say the supplements helps, they have better flushes, but the trouble with this statement is, that every flush is different, so it could have been a good flush no matter what.
In my case I had to try thing because I have a big calcified stone. Most people that do cleaning for general health just have soft cholesterol stones/gravel/sludge.
The "stones" are susually pea size and green like peas, you can squeeze between your fingers.
In general it is suggested to drink applejuice before, or 4 tbs apple cider vinegar(from healthfood store) in a quart of water the 4 days before. Cranberry juice is ok too, but might be kind of tart.
Read the FAQ at the top of the page, it has a lot of information.
I have never used vit.C in a liver flush. When I came to Curezone over 10 years ago that was not part of the formula. I went from doubling over in pain everytime I ate cheese or ice cream to being pain free. I also lost weight, overcame chronic depression and sailed through menopause.
Now I think back it might have been before CZ. Before I came here I had books from like Adele Davis and Life Extension.
Probably the main thing I was taking was vitamin C. I switched
to buffered C and had no problems anymore.
I remember now in which house I was living and it should be more than 30 years ago.
WEll seems it is worth a try 20569. But that is alot of D--- supplements. You take ALL of them? Maybe I should just try the Taurine.
If I can use this to stabilize my issues. -- And alkalize like Moreless Forum says maybe it will all even out. Seems he feels one does not need to cleanse if you alkalize. Alot of people on this liver cleanse site cleanse on and on. Thus they continue to form stones. So maybe alkalizing would solve that.
I however have never gotten a cleanse done. Does not work.
I must say the liverflushes helped me, I think I almost did a 100 of them over the years, but I still have my stone. For the last several years I have not done anymore
ultrasounds. About 4-5x a year the gallbladder acts up and I keep it under control with drinking a tbs of epsomsalts
Kidney or other stones within the body are formed by perverse or metamorphosed secretions and excretions, brought about by a faulty diet: it really is that simple.
Adhere to a wholefood diet with plenty of fresh fruits, vegetables, legumes, pulses, nuts and wholegrains, with the addition of unadulterated meats if desired, and then eat only when hungry.
Stones are also known to be dissolved via water-only-fasting, if carried through for a sufficient length of time.
but also read the links I gave in my other post. There is a lot of information there.
In regards to the original poster she was here only 2 months and she did post that she felt better after 1 month and then she stopped posting.
Like Telman said in the beginning to improve might take
a long time.
As far as taurine goes I tried that for years If your stones are not calcified some of these supplements might
help, but nothing worked for me.
Hello. I just wanted you to know that this post helped me. I tried many of things you suggested, along with some other things too. I had one ultrasound that showed sludge. A later scan showed nothing. So I would consider that objective proof that I cleared the sludge. It was a long road (two years) with plenty of pain, but I am fine now. So thanks for posting these suggestions. Gigi