I have OCD (think MONK) and have read that the adrenal glands have something to do with OCD. This make sense as to why I obsess over things at times when my symptoms are worse. I also at times have to stop reading about my illness because the negativity of it gets "stuck" in my brain. Like Brain Lock or something.
I'm thinking about taking an SSRI but I'm scared it's going to affect me in a negative way because of my adrenals.
Is anyone on here noticing more obsessive thoughts with this illness and is anyone on meds?
I definitely feel part "OCD," especially with things from my past...maybe it's just that the body is stuck in a pattern of overstimulation with AF, and the brain has to follow? It's like the brain can't slow down, right?
I don't know if I'd call it OCD though...from my understanding, OCD is a condition where people are ritualistic to a paralyzing degree...to keep themselves from losing their mind.
What I have with AF is just continual, circular thinking about the past and some traumatic events/crummy situations.
People can exhibit OCD behaviour to varying degrees, and there are many causes of this, and adrenal fatigue is one of them. OCD behaviour can occur with conditions such as Aspergers syndrome, and other forms of Autism. These behaviours are often exaggerated at times of anxiety and stressful situations, so there is definitely an adrenal connection.
OCD can result from irrational fears, such as a fear of germs, a fear of something terrible happening if the person doesn't perform the rituals to prevent it, a fear of losing control, which can extend to many areas of the persons life.
Many OCD behaviours result from trauma, and can be very debilitating. Supporting the adrenals is a way of lessening the stress reaction, and anxiety, which in turn will lessen the severity of the OCD behaviour.
Yes, I am ocd too, it has to do with mood and attention. Think about it, adderall is used to increase peoples attention but it is a stimulant. When you have af, your body doesnt produce enough cortisol to counteract norepinephrine, so you are always in a wired focused state, even though you may have brain fog. Basically, having adrenal fatigue is the shittiest way to live you life.
To add more, I have noticed that I am very slow to process things. It is extremely hard to meet new people because you need to have a high degree of attentiveness, awareness,focus, and quick thinking to talk to people you don't know. I hate meeting new people, they think I am such a dull person because it is hard for me to have any personality when I am just trying to focus as hard as I can to know who you are.
The positive is that when things are put in front of me to read I can get super ocd and slowly digest everything. I took a couple classes this summer because I wanted to take prerequisites for physical therapy school (I have abandoned that idea and will just use my business degree I already have to get a job and make $$$ when I am healthy enough to get a job). Anyway, in the classes I took I got A's and basically got the best %'s on the tests I have ever gotten because I could just spend all day obsessing about information.
It was something that I never had in my personality except for when a deadline was approaching. With adrenal fatigue, it felt like I was in that state all the time, not just for the 24 hours leading up to a test.
i think the adrenal fatigue forum should be renamed to the heavy metal poisoning annex. it is obvious that many people here are suffering from heavy metal poisoning. some have even posted lab results to confirm it. why not deal with the source of the problem?
you are right that heavy metal detox is a bitch, especially with adrenal problems.
but there are many many things you can be doing to move in the right direction. and even if you aren't moving in the right direction just knowing the root of the problem vs flying blind is a good thing.
remineralizing slowly can at least stop the damage from progressing and perhaps push some metals out.
adjusting the diet accordingly can have positive effects, i.e. a high sulfur or low sulfur diet, gfcf, etc. etc.
slow sauna use can start the process rolling.
in some cases if the adrenals are fried, it may be a good idea to go on cortisone or cortef while chelating.
fulvic acid can possibly render heavy metals inert, i am not sure if this works but it is worth a try.
ion foot spas will put out metals through the skin.
magnetic mattress pads will increase cell charge and push metals into circulation -- you still need to excrete them but it is easier and less damaging than ripping them out with chelators.
some people have been successful with cilantro.
some people have been successful using homeopathic remedies.
if you use the cutler protocol you can start off using VERY low doses of ALA and DMPS. DMSA is problematic for a lot of people and Dr. Buttar claims that it should never be used at all.
Hannah Kroeger has a recipe to pull heavy metals out using green beans and squash.
There are other recipes to pull heavy metals using beets.
There is a product called Modifilan that will gently pull out heavy metals, i think this is a form of alginate -- which Hulda Clark recommends for heavy metal detox.
Some people have had success with clay baths... Luana Lay's website has lab results proving that clay works. it can also be taken internally.
I think just about every high level alternative practitioner has their own strategy for heavy metals.
ozone saunas can be used to oxidize metals in the body whereby they become inert, will not damage you, and then very easy to excrete.
People on the Iodine forums are using Iodine to push out heavy metals successfully. This is not technically chelation but a lot of people are successful.
I used to have something like OCD, or at least the doctors thought so, when I was a kid. I must have had mild stage 1 adrenal fatigue back then. I was able to really focus on my school work and get all A's too. I can still get excellent grades, but I'm not able to focus as good. I get distracted a lot now. I definitely have a similar experience when meeting new people. They always think I'm dull or out of it (because of the brain fog) and I cant remember names well. I think the OCD just went away without me ever taking medicine for it. Maybe its's only associated with certain stages of AF?
Now this is very interesting, I've just noticed you and Trick X Master has A's on the subject due to this condition. I'm also used to have A's during my college years. Now is it (just my suspicion) because the mercury (or whatever chemical imbalance in your body) cause the 'OCD' (thus some suspect the mercury 'makes' the autistic child highly gifted) or is this just another strange coincidence?
Talk about a 'good' side of AF, especially if you are a student? hahahha:P
(I tried to make some laugh here, my toothache has back and I need some humour to stay positive btw.)
Yeah, about good grades. I was finishing my master's degree and got AF my last semester. I had a 4.0, an A in every class... I don't know if I contribute my excellent grades to OCD though? I've ALWAYS been OCD, long before AF! I would contribute the good grades to me being in a super high cortisol stage and having a type A, perfectionist personality.
So, more about high cortisol... right before I had my first AF crash, I was like a tazmanian devil, i was working full time and taking classes full time, among balancing a number of other stressful things. I was on top of the world, extemely productive, efficient, funny, etc etc. So to explain the grades... at that point in time, everything I did had to be excellent, but again I blame that on the high cortisol... it felt like being a drug that made you feel like you could and should be amazing at everything.
Wow, I think I just read another description of me. I am also very active in my college years, got 4.0 GPA, and I have never thought it's because OCD or cortisol (i am clueless of these terms those days).
This is very interesting. I can't believe this is actually happening. Are all AFers like this? (now that's the recipe for high grade hahaahah)
I've got ocd too, and made all A's in high school and college with too exceptions. I got a C is an English class in high school. I aced the written part but failed in the speaking in class part. I just wouldn't do it. I got hell from my parents and my teacher over that all year. How could I ruin my perfect grades by not speaking they would ask me constantly. My teacher went ballistic on me in front of everyone one day, yelling and going crazy. He probably had AF too. lol
I was doing good in college, and made it through two years. Then I took a speech class. First speech, got it all ready, the research and props, etc. I didn't show up. Drank some scotch instead. Failed that class and the cycle of that continued. Everyone was disappointed.
Went to Massage school later. Made excellent grades and graduated. But major fatigue and weakness, social anxiety, etc., etc. doesn't make a good massage therapist. I have no idea what I was thinking. Sure didn't know how sick I really was. Now I do.