my dear sisters,
i hope any woman considering using a "jamu stick" (a molded stick of herbal ingredients that is supposed to cleanse/tighten the vagina when inserted - it has been folk medicine for countless generations BUT THAT DOES NOT MEAN IT IS SAFE FOR EVERY ONE, EVERY TIME!!!) will be able to know about this before using one...
almost immediately after inserting this, it could DRY UP and FUSE to your insides - the instructions tell u to leave it in for 1-2 minutes, but in less than 30 seconds mine (which i did make sure was wet) became STUCK .......a few of them make mild mention that it might "adhere" and if that happens to just move it left to right to release it but the sellers of this are covering up how bad this could really be - i had hoped this could help with a bartholin's absess but instead, sisters, this FUSED to my body and i tried using the shower massager and positioning myself under the bathtub faucet to rewet it, but it wouldn't come out, and i ...pulled it out, RIPPING OUT MY SKIN, BLEEDING, AND IN THE WORST PAIN OF MY LIFE.......
i am desperate to save other women from this happening to them ...please do NOT use a jamu stick!!! or if u do - PLEASE DON'T - please make sure the stick is DRIPPING WET, and only QUICKLY slide it in once-twice and please do not leave it in for ANY amount of time not even 30 seconds!! PLEASE!!! ...i pray this never happens to another woman!!! *cry*
why would anyone want to do such a thing?
some women are naturally loose or loose from numerous sexua| partners. if promiscuity is the culprit then she might want to cut down on partners which is a good idea anyway.
as far as cleanliness, it shouldn't be that hard. all you have to do is wash 2x a day with a good body wash, eat healthier and wear good fitted, breathable undies. Green drinks like chlorophyll and spirulina works wonders on body odors.
it amazes me how women will go thru hurdles to please male sexua| partners when it is not reciprocated. men will not go thru all of that trouble for women ever, so why should you? stop putting yourself thru this for worthless men who are cheating on you anyway.
btw, as far as bartolins abscess you should go to a clinic and have it drained if it's bothering you that much otherwise abscesses can heal on their own after a few days if not picked at and reduce food intake and up water consumption, but that's if the infection is not too far along and severe.
it shows this thing comes from Singapore. everytime i buy something from there or anywhere in Asia it usually falls apart after 2 or 3 uses, so I guess that's saying much about the efficiency of many of their products. stick to American made products.
with all due respect, my - or any woman's - reasons for using such a product, are not your concern to stand in judgement of ...and my hygiene is just fine, i don't need your advice...
oh, and... i don't know whether u are male or just have never had a bartholin's cyst "drained" - u say like it's nothing, it's having one's privates sliced with a knife, and i say women should pursue ANY other way (jamu stick getting stuck was almost as bad!) we can to avoid having to go through that!
for whatever reason, this product was used and a traumatic experience was had so i am just hoping to warn other women who might for whatever reason they choose use this product ...please don't use this, ladies...
no offense to you, but you are probably like one of very few women using such a foreign object. i know it is none of my business about why you are using it, but you put your business out there already.
no, i've never had a bartolins cyst. but i can tell you that if i had such a condition, i would not be using this. the article says that it was an herbal stick designed to enhance orgasms, provide some cleansing and tighten the vaginal opening for better intercourse for the male. i know of too many women unfortunately putting themselves at risk trying to please some worthless boyfriend.
i am NOT one of "few" women who would turn to a jamu stick (which are NOT just for the benefit of a man, those are only the out-dated writings that accompany the product, HOWEVER if any woman wanted to use it for that reason, u may have bitterness towards men but that is up to a woman and herself alone) jamu stick use is a tradition passed down from woman to woman in other countries ...but unfortunately that doesn't mean it's safe (for bartholin's cysts, which you have no experience with and therefore shouldn't speak on, it could have been a way of holding delivering/holding medicinal herbs, but unfortunately it turned out to be dangerous due to its potential to unexpectedly fuse inside), so i wanted to post, in hopes that at least some women considering using this might look it up first and find my warning ...that is NOT just putting my business out there (and if it is, if it spares one woman from what happened to me then so be it).
my post was for women interested in jamu sticks, u were not so please just ignore my post...
well like i had stated earlier the article said that this was for tightening the vagina for male heightened sexua| pleasure. i think what may have happened is that it tighten too much and caused the fusing. i wonder if the herbs in it would cause a severe burning of the penis and urethra.
what i find curious, and maybe you can help me understand, is why was it used for bartolins cyst when the product does not state anywhere that it would be helpful for this? i do have experience w/herbs and i know depending on the person and strength that they can be quite nauseating. i've actually puked up herbs that were too strong for me, so i would be most careful in inserting them in body cavities w/out really knowing what the effect would be.
i understand that this is a healing w/out medication site, and i respect that. however, i really think if you ever told any proactive physician about this he would be very very perplexed as to why you chose this. this experience sounds very much to me like the ones i read about in that book i think called 'experiences in the e.r.' where docs and nurses tell of situations they've come across like that one older lady that docs had to remove a potato from her vagina. it was a really interesting book.
u are comparing me to a woman who inserted a potato into her vagina??? ...u are presumptuous and rude! i used an item INTENDED for vaginal use and validated through ages of cultural use, and which i am _trained_ in herbal medicine to use! the stick's herbs can draw the cyst, and it is the perfect way to deliver/hold them where needed (but, what happened to me could happen to someone else so i am urging other women not to try this)!
i posted to share with women an experience i had so they might be cautious - and u felt the need to respond, calling me/any other woman who would use this, foolish, as well as project your bitterness about men/why women would use this for men, spout condescending advice about hygiene ("as for cleanliness, it shouldn't be that hard. all you have to do is wash 2x a day with a good body wash") LIKE we don't wash ourselves already?! some women STILL have vaginal issues despite keeping impeccable hygiene!
NEITHER ONE OF US THINK WOMEN SHOULD USE JAMU STICKS - myself NOT for women's empowerment reasons and NOT thinking they seem foolish ...i can see the value they might have, BUT something can go wrong so, again, i urge women not to try this.
not necessarily comparing u to that lady but just saying the story kinda puts me in the mind of that book i once read.
my point was, that there must be more conventional options than what was used here.
have you ever thought about sending correspondence to the makers of shamu sticks from Singapore (hopefully they speak English) and giving them reviews on their product? maybe they can work on improving it or taking it off the market altogether.
you speak of using this for cyst. nowhere in the description of this product does it state it was designed for that purpose.
this product is for sexua| enhancement, which it apparently failed in it's attempts to do so. you say you are trained in herbs, which i was unaware of since you ask for herbal advice in your other posts.
"some women STILL have vaginal issues despite keeping impeccable hygiene!"
yes, i understand that. many of these issues are related to candida, yeast, fungus and std's.
"i used an item INTENDED for vaginal use and validated through ages of cultural use"
you do realize that many cultural usages are now outdated and more safe and efficient means have been adopted.
"NEITHER ONE OF US THINK WOMEN SHOULD USE JAMU STICKS - myself NOT for women's empowerment reasons and NOT thinking they seem foolish "
I never said you were foolish. hopefully the day will come when women stop thinking empowerment for them primarily comes thru their vaginas. a liberated mind is far more empowering imho.
just because a person asks for advice with health issues - which you have no business knowing (looking up my posts) or claiming to know anything about me/my knowledge at all - does NOT mean they are not trained in herbs, the body is infinitely complex and the only being who has it completely figured out is the creator, so even for someone trained such as i _am_, the more heads we can put together the better!
you do not know much about jamu sticks - there are other uses for them that you are not privy to. not to mention, people experimenting is how some great dilemmas have been solved!
what was the point in your reply to my original post?
it accomplished nothing but belittling me as to why i would do such a thing, like you've never done anything in your life that, in hindsight, could have been ill advised, and making me feel bad - and when i'm already hurt... :(
i just happened to come across the one you did above this about ear wax. this site is designed for anyone to look up any post made. i have a right to look at post, though i don't click on your name and browse that way, i only look at posts made in a particular forum that i am in. you sound really sensitive. i have learned over the years that sometimes constructive criticism is good. you learn from it.
if everyone around you always said positive, but untrue things, you might not realize the wrong, so it can be corrected. the fact that no one posted a response to this suggests that not many women even know shamu sticks exist let alone using them.
Erm, have you even been to Singapore? Ignorant much?
The first language here IS English and for your info, the Jamu sticks are not made here but DISTRIBUTED from here. The sea port in Singapore is the busiest in the world if you did do your research....so several companies use the port services here but are not based here. In fact the website that I visited has its located in Hong Kong instead but I doubt they are really made there since Jamu sticks were used for Indonesian royalties and its namesake is from the herbs in Jamu island.
Also it is really true that you Americans are broke asses now? I mean, they keep advertising on Singaporean cable TV that if I had a mere 200K Singaporean dollars I could buy 5 houses in the state of New York??? hahaha sorry but I think you'd better move here and stick some jamu up your vajayjay ;)
Thanks for the warnings anyway, I've never heard of them and no one over here uses them anyway! We stick to Vagisil. hahahaha what a joke.
First of all, why post such negative opinions of men if you, in fact, are a man? Guilty conscience maybe? Believe it or not, there are some good men out there. There are also just as many female cheaters as there are male (and perhaps even more if you take emotional affairs into account)
Secondly, at no point did anyone in this thread say their jamu stick usage is/was related to a man. My use certainly isn't. I use it for hygiene purposes because I like to feel extra clean, and have never suffered from issues like STDs, infections, or candida (which IS yeast, by the way.) Nor does my use in any way involve men. The additional sexua| pleasure I derive just happens to be a bonus.
Jamu sticks have been used for hundreds of years for multiple purposes. Maybe you should take a slice of humble pie and do more reading on a subject before talking smack to a well meaning contributor.
It's a myth that multiple sex partners causes the vagina to go loose. The real deal is you have to strengthen your pelvic floor, girls. Do your kegels, do pilates, do yoga, strengthen your core muscles, as those also support your pelvic floor.
You shouldn't use soap of any kind on your vagina. The vagina should be fairly acidic to keep it free of bacteria, and soap destroys that Ph balance. Wash once per day using just warm water and your hand. Twice a day maybe while your menstruating.
Yes, eating right, and green juices are awesome for every facet of health, but when it comes to the yoni - work it out. Oh...and have LOTS of cllmaxs. That strengthens the pelvic floor as well. ;) That's the fun way to do it.
You also might be surprised what men go through to please a woman. Every man I've been with has put a lot of energy, and creativity into ensuring that we both have a good time. Men aren't worthless, and not all men cheat. No more than women do. We're no angels either. You laid a big ol' stone from your shoulder into this posting.
Wow, you and your assumptions are ridiculous. Most women who I know who have used and reviewed this products and others similar are middle aged married women who want to experience it with their husbands. Also, women can become lose with ONE partner. If you have sex with your boyfriend/fiancé/husband often or even fairly often you will become looser. If you have sex with ten different guys the same amount of time you will become looser. If you AGE you will become LOOSER. Oh and also women who have sex more frequently actually don't have looser vaginas. When they are older their vaginas bounce back quicker than someone who started having sex at a later age and even less often. Oh and if you have one partner with a huge penis, and have sex with him as often as someone having sex with guys with small penises than guess what? The person with one guy will become looser. Get your damn facts straight before you start coming at women who you don't even know.
P.S Sorry that you have not found a guy who will go above and beyond to make sure you have an amazing sexual experience, but honey, don't talk for all of us. I like to please my partner because I know he does the exact same!
Thanks for posting, and I hope you feel better. What a traumatic experience. Keigel exercises would be best, and I even saw a contraption to help with those exercises online. Nothing works like strenghening the muscles for real, just like you can't fake nice legs by putting lotion or herbs on them, you just have to work to develop those muscles to look nice. The easy way out is sometimes the least trustworthy, I have to try and do those Keigels myself. While driving, while at work etc.
I am glad you posted here so we can benefit from learning of your bad experience. You never know, a friend may mention this Jamu stick idea, now we are warned to not try it! Or proceed with caution!
i would not do kegels if i were a woman. i can tell you that men cheat on women all the time regardless of how much they do this exercise. i believe the op is doing this to try to hold on to a man. it won't work. men are not monogamous by nature, not matter how good the sex is. when women realize this they will be better off. like i said, if i were a woman, i would not put myself at risk like this. i should know. i know how men work and think.