The protocol is 100mg DMSA 3x per day for three days. Then, do not take for 11 days, then again DMSA 100mg 3x a day for three days and on the 2nd and 3rd days of this do the 24 hr urine collection.
We use London Sciences labs at St. Joe's hospital the elements lab. My random urine test had slightly elevated thallium without any chelating.
Any advice on this please? I did already do the first 3 days of DMSA and would be due to do it again in a few days.
I have done one IV of minerals /vitamins to replenish minerals. I have the Andy cutler book and am seeing only hair analysis through DDI as test. I did that last summer, and nothing but some arsenic showed up. I did not prepare in any special way for this test. I have many of the sx of heavy metal toxicity.
Thanks for any help and advise. I am a 40 year old woman who became very ill 1.5 yrs ago. My daughter is 6 and no learning issues, but showing signs of many allergies, tummy and head aches, some body aches, low iron, rashes etc.
Someone tried to do that for me, but the DDI printout was not the normal format, my doc has her results sent in a different format. If I could put a copy online of my results, do you think you could help me interpret? I can't even think properly to figure this out, with all my sx.
I have a PDF of my hair analysis done by doctors data. They took over Anabol labs and the results are printed out differently. I do not know how to interpret or do the counting rules. I have a PDF format I can email or post if someone can tell me how to post a PDF. document.
I have had these results since July '09 and have not been able to do the counting, or figure it all out.
Also, I did not do anythng special to prepare for the test or bring out metals, my dr. now says to her patients to take taurine for 6 weeks before test, I did not do anything.
If someone is well versed with the andy cutler counting rules or knows how to interpret that would be great.
I know I've been exposed to mercury, though it doesnt' show in test. Also, I recently am showing thallium in my urine (random urine, no chelation)
Concerned, if anyone can help that would be awesome. firstname.lastname@example.org
I personally cannot help you with the results, but if you post them on the Yahoo Cutler forum, there are lots of very knowledgeable and very helpful people who can definitely give you the answer you need regarding those hair test results
I hyperventilate chronically, and I do get a lot of muscle tics and twitches, but especially after eating. My 'illness' that I developed 16 months ago, has changed its sx so many times in this order:
extreme nausea to foods, hives, burning GI and mouth tissues even to water, severe palpitations and some permanent ones to foods, food allergies, developement of internal chest stingy itch feelings, radiate out, worse PVCs now than ever. Also trying to reduce benzo again, which I had quit just before becoming ill. But due to agonizing sx, I restarted, and waiting too long to taper down and am having horrible w/d sx from that too which exacerbates everything. I have missed some symptoms too I'm sure, recently worse hypoglycemic and hyperventilating sx, worse reactions to more foods, pounding headaches.
Been treated with some Vit/mineral IV's, Artemisinin, Flagyl 8 days, Alinia high dose for 21 days, then start DMSA urine challenge. Have tried rifing on and off, try to rotate limited foods....tried rebamipide for 2 weeks but have not retried yet. Many vits /supplements make me worse or react. Latest sx is insane tickly electric seize insane feeling in muscles like searing salt inside my muscles after eating....
But this was worse before, after trying mag. taurate for heart palps, it worked for heart but this muscle insane feeling got worse, but it was also at end of Alinia use. Not sure what causes what.... I am pretty sure that my posts are copied to the cutler chelation forum, I hope anyway. Do you know if a PDF form can be attached somehow?
did you follow my link and join the Yahoo Cutler discussion group? those are the people you need to ask about your hair test results. I am not talking about a Cutler discussion group here on curezone, I'm talking about the one on Yahoo.
All of those crazy itching and burning nerve sensations are classic Mercury toxicity symptoms. have you tried chelating using the Cutler protocol?
No chelation yet. I have the book. My doctor wanted me to do a urine heavy metal challenge test, which was my original question. I started last week 3 days of dmsa 100mg x3 times a day.
I am supposed to then wait 10 or 11 days and do that again, and on the 2nd and 3rd days, I am supposed to do a 24 hr urine collection. Many people at her office do it this way, there is a sheet printed out. But when I read cutler, I get scared of getting hurt/injured.
I wonder if I should try the chelation. I know he uses ALA, but I think DMSA too with it, and it's done every 3 hrs for.....3 days? Then person takes a break?
And how often is a person supposed to check urine for heavy metals, and is there a chart to compare one's readings/results while chelating to determine if there really is a big overload?
I am thinking instead of the urine challenge, I should just go ahead and chelate safely.
I also have very severe palpitations, especially after many foods now, as if allergy, the food triggers them and they last for hours. It's horrible. But my first heart palpitation started about 10 years ago....I never knew it was a foreshadow of horrible things to come in my life.
If I can cure myself, then not so horrible though....
cutler does not think those challenge tests are very valid. However, if you really want to take the test I would recommend doing a three day chelation cycle using the Cutler protocol. That's DMSA every 3 to 4 hours, including at night. So usually people do it every three hours during the day and every four hours at night. You could then collect the urine on the second or third day
The only way you will know if your symptoms are mercury related art if you properly chelate, and the only way to properly chelate is to do the Cutler protocol.
These other chelation protocols do not work, especially if you are extremely toxic.
So you have no mercury if your mouth? Is that right?
People generally start out chelating with DMSA or DMPS, and then after a couple months they add the ALA. personally I didn't get much benefit from the DMSA or the DMPS. However, the ALA has been a godsend for me.
The ALA is the only chelator that crosses the blood brain barrier and is therefore the only chelator it gets mercury out of the brain and central nervous system
That sounds better to me..
do you know the page in cutlers book where this is all stated?! For example I did that first round as explained, 100mg 3x a day for 3 days. So that's about 6 hrs apart.
Now I ended that 7 days ago. When could I start again?
Could I start now? Do I have to wait this 11 days or anything?
I am very affected, by something, and I suspect really it's heavy metal toxicity.
No mercury fillings in my mouth, no.
Could I start this asap? I'd really like to, is that how the cutler program works? I'd be using DMSA, so, I'd take it every 3 hrs then every 4 hrs at night for 3 days, is this the typical schedule? Then when to repeat this?
Does one have to take 'binders'? I am so sensitive to everything, but maybe I could try xeolite or Bentonite for binding.
What type of symptoms did you have from heavy metal/mercury toxicity? And what improvements did you get and how long of a period of time have you /had you done chelating? Thanks very much!