Like many of you,I have been battling this for a while. I have read that candida can be cured if you don't have an underlaying cause which allows it to come back. It looks like isn't an easy task to cure it but possible. According with some drs Candida can be cured if you follow a right protocol and give the treatment time to do its job. Let say this case, you get an intestinal overgrow after antibiotic intake. Can be this overgrow cured if yoy follow a good treatment???? I believe this is my case. I would like to hear opinions about it. Some experts agree that candida can be cured however most websites which sell threelac say no. Could be this a tactic to get people buying its products forever??? Please, only serious opinions. We all are sick with this and the best way I see to win this battle is to help each other.
I believe the underlying cause in my case is parasites pure and simple...the candida is just a symptom of parasite infection, I am cleansing my bowels to get rid of the parasites, which i believe will make it easier to deal with the candida
Yes, I am convinced antibiotics can cause candida but they aren't the only one cause.Candida is an opportunistic infection and any immune factor can cause it. If the immune system is stressed by some factor, candida has a chance to overgrow. Stress and a high Sugar diet are enough to cause you a mild to moderate candida case.What happen is this moderate infection is going to take you to a point where you need to take antibiotics. Then, this is the culprit to get candida out of control and the cause of a big overgrow.
You are right - I think we all came to the same place from differing backgrounds. For me, it was a soup of type 1 diabtes, HUGE antibiotic use as a child and teen, a decade of mild/moderate bulimia (bad for gut lining!) a gentic liver defect, too much junk food, low stomach acid, and food allergies, and not necessarily in their order of impact.
I'm now better than I was 10 years ago, no Candida symptoms, no symptoms of anything really, but I'm pretty sure that if I started eating a "normal" diet, drinking, I'd be back in the hospital. Maybe one day I could go back and "eat normally", but why would I?
>>According with some drs Candida can be cured if you
>>follow a right protocol and give the treatment time to
>>do its job.
Best thing to do is to is perhaps follow a single idea for 2-3 months. If it's not helping at all, try something else.
In the meantime, read as much as you can and absorb as many ideas as you can so you know what to try next. I've found (at least for myself), Candida was caused by multiple things, not just a single thing, and it took removing all of these factors to fully recover.
I still think the biggest factor, for me anyway, was my silver/mercury fillings. Having them removed properly and replaced with something biocompatible is important.
Someone also mentioned that a lot of people who think they have Candida actually don't. This is 100% correct. A good way of diagnosing yourself is to take an anti-fungal drug like nilstat (nystatin) for 2 weeks. If you get die-off or feel better, then you have Candida. If you feel nothing, it's something else.
Regarding Threelac, it's a good product and could potentially help you if your diet is fairly good. All anti-fungals will keep Candida in check for as long as you're taking them, but as soon as you stop they come back. Also, killing Candida all of the time is hard on your liver. BUT, when you can't think, have no energy, and nothing else is working, they are a godsend.
Anyway, bottom line, trust your intuition and try something until you find what works for you. I personally feel food choices are extremely important. Good luck.
Thanks for your answers. I am not new to this battle and I want to share what I have learned about it. The fact is there is a lot of crossed information about this syndrome everywhere. If you have to be in a candida diet forever, so candida isn't cured. For me, a cure means to eat normal and I don't mean tons of sugars and carbs, simply normal. A cure means come back to normal. According to some articles I have read, an intestinal candidiasis which is believed to be the cause of this problem, can be reversed at least you have some underlaying cause which allows it to come back. There are so many theories but nobody really knows the trust about it. Anyway, the key of success looks like to follow a serious protocol for the right time and since any antifungal has proved to be strong enough to eliminate candida by itself, we have to follow a very restrictive diet at least for the first month. To be brief, I suggest to read The Complete Candida Yeast Guidebook, by Zoltan Rona,MD and Jeanne Marie Martin C.I.N. I own every Candida book I have found in the web including 4 from Dr Crook, and I believe this the best candida book written so far.Only my opinion. According to them, they have treated patients with severe candida cases who have been cured and eat openly without worry about candida. They state that candida come back if you don't give the protocol the right time to eliminate it and if you have a condition that favor it. We all know what is believed to cause candida, use of antibiotics, birth control pills, ph unbalance, mercury and aluminum overload, cancer, clinical depression, diabetes, AIDS, gluten intolerance, hormonal unbalance,immunologic desorders, severe stress, parasitic infestations, h. pylori,etc. However, it is probably the gut microbiota state the secret to come back to normal.
My personal experience after 15 years of candida bouts, it seems to me that once you develop it, you always remain susceptible.
I first got candida after intraveinous antibiotics and then long course of antibiotics. Little did I know. I also like many many NOrth Americans, have had tons of antibiotics as a child.
First time I got candida - it was over in a week of ketonazole. But then it came back after 3 months. Second time, it took three months of the classical treatment - antifungals, garlic, etc. Then the 3rd time, it took even longer - a year of strict diet, antifungals, etc. and as VX (Jason) so rightly points out, it was over when I took my Amalgams out.
I was very careful after that for many years. But in the past two years, I had completely forgotten about candida - even though I knew it was lurking, eating tons of tropical fruits, jam, bread. I had been "normal" for so many years, I didn't think it could flare-up again.
Like many here, I think there are one or many underlying causes - immune deficiency, heavy metal toxicity, malnutrition even, exhaustion, hormones. The thing is, once it's there it's extrenely hard to heal.
Funny you should ask this question - I am so desperate sometimes, I think it will never leave this time. I am much much to low, depleted, malnourished, I have SIBO on top of everythihng. Just don't know how to get out of this one.
And you are right, ZOltan Rona's book is excellent. Except the diet - way too much carb in there. They mention though that the very strict diet should only be followed for 3 weeks max. ANd I've been on it for 7 months. Cheez.
I believe my candida is linked to gluten intolerance. I don't know what was first, but I am sure both conditions are affecting me. As long as I eat gluten, candida will be there. Candida grows when undigested food is going to the colon. I have tried gluten 3 times after a free period and the result is more intestinal problems again. It looks like one time you develop an acute candida intestinal overgrow for any reason, you also develop gluten intolerances. Scientifics have found candida albicans has a protein sequence almost identical to gliadin and it may explain why our immune system attacks gliadin. Candidiasis and Celiac share almost the same symptoms. One time this reaction began, our intestinal villi is destroyed and you get really sick. Special care is needed if you are 0+ blood type and if you carry DQ-8 and DQ-2 genes. According to what I have read during a complete year, there are two things which are key to win this battle, one is to go for a gluten free month to see if yo improve and the otherone is to check for heavy metal overload. Guys, I am trying to help and at the same time listening to you. Sorry, I don't writte well in English but you get the idea and that is the important point here.
A Candida diet does not cure Candida, it only suppresses it so that anti-fungals can work. I was on a Candida diet for many years when taking nilstat.
My diet is not a Candida diet, I have plenty of fruit, milk and other things typically not associated with a Candida diet. I can also eat normally, I just choose not to, because I've had problems that go far beyond Candida and although I look ok now, I'm still healing and it takes time. I don't take supplements or anything to deal with the Candida, so I cured more than anyone I know here on CZ. Having said that, if I were to start eating microwaved, processed food, vegetable oils found in most foods, I'm sure I'd revert back in a year or less. But I don't know and I'm not going to test it.
I believe that Candida, while it's a problem in itself, is not the main problem. Candida is a garbage collector, it's actually there to help you, and if there is too much garbage in your intestines, it gets out of control. Where is the garbage coming from? That's the problem.
If you've read a book that you think has the permanent answer, why are you asking if it's forever? Put it to the test imo.
>>They state that candida come back if you don't give the protocol the right time to eliminate it and if you have a condition that favor it.
Haha, maybe. It depends why you got it in the first place. If you got it through overdosing on antibiotics, it should be possible to fix it permanently. If you got it through genetics or because of other health conditions, it's a little more complicated. I find that doctors, including naturopaths, don't talk or like to admit their failures. (And they often don't hear about them either because people just never come back). Very few health practioners follow up with clients 6 months, 1 year, 5 years in the future, to call anything permanent.
Anyway, it sounds like you have a good book with a protocol you believe in. That's all you need. So try it and tell us if it worked for you 3 months down the road, 6 months, 1 year, 3 years, 5 years, etc... If it works it could help others.