I started back in june 2009 on a semi candida diet & antifugals & was having die off symptoms. Now Sept 1st 2009 I am on the candida diet 100% no cheating with supplements. Today is my 10th day & each day has felt worst with all different kind of symptoms. My list of symptoms are scary at times & its been hard to take care of my 2 little ones. I'm wondering how long this can last?
Also I fell down a flight ceramic stairs & got a few bruises & hurt my tail bone I'm thinking this is going to set my healing back?
A lot depends on your level of candida
overgrowth. I had systemic candida after
years of pharmaceuticals and it took 3
years to bring my system into balance.
This too, under the guidance of a naturopath.
I would encourage you to keep going. If
the die-off becomes too severe, drink
more water, or consider cutting back on
Also, where are you at relative to the
appearance of your tongue??
Thank you for your reply & words of encouragement.
My tongue is what first alerted me something was not right 2 years ago but I wish I would of knew it was yeast then.
This is one of the hardest things I think I ever had to deal with fiscally. I pray to God I can beat the beast(candida). I feel so weak,tired,hungry & pain at times I wanna cry but then I know that will just help the yeast so I try to keep my head up.
About the feeling hungry all the time is since I started on the anit candida diet of just meats,fish,nuts & organic mainly green veggies. I don't think i'm actually hungry my stomach isn't growling but i think my body is yearning for carbs & sugars.
About what antifungals I'm taking right now is unrefined coconut oil sometime 5 1/2 tbl spoons & 1 or 2 threelacs packets also home probiotics from cabbage maybe 2 or 3 times a day. Also at the start of trying to kill candida a couple months ago i was taking grape seed extract with oregano,raw garlic,probitics & threelacs up to 4 packs a day. I know I was taking way to many especially when i wasn't being a 100% on the diet. I started to have severe die off eventually so I stopped.
I've tried to be 100% since sept 1st but i have cheated a couple times & then i feel really bad for the next few days. I've been feeling super tired off & on,body aches,joint aches,headaches, everything is off & on. I've stopped taking the threelacs until my symptoms die down some & i'm only taking maybe 2 or 3 tbl spoons coconut oil a day if the die off symptoms aren't to bad. Do you think i should stop all the antifungals until i'm feeling stronger for at least a week?
What are some probiotic fermented foods you recommend? Where can i buy some unprocessed saurkraut?
local organic grocery stores might have bubbies or rejuvenate sauerkraut or any other brand in the refridgerator case...
i really reccommend making it yourself because it is soooooooo much cheaper. its about $7 in rhode island for a 20 oz jar, meanwhile you can get 2 organic cabbages and salt for $8 and make a gallon, enough to last a long time.
do you feel like you hve sufficient stomach acid and you are digesting things. because that is foremost along with diet- which you seem to have under control--though your sure you tolerate those nuts and they dont give you cravings?
i think my condition was very much the same as yours it seems.
from what you told me the hungryness is Sugar cravings, because you have "cheated" recently, after eating sugars it seems to take at least a week of strict diet to not have any cravings.
you say super tired with just a achy fatigued body right?
i felt exactly the same. though some days i would feel alright or even really good for a couple hours.
i had too much inflammation of my abdomen is why i had to stop antifungals. also they were making me tired nad uncomfortable to the point of not being able to do anything.
now i have been taking fiber and probiotics and eating sugar...and i have a better quality of life, i am going to work outside on a farm in a few minutes for hours at a time...something i had trouble doing before... but it is so hard for me to find a happy medium. there is still something wrong and i dont know what...maybe a problem metabolizing starches.
so i cant really say if you should stop or not. i would continue using coconut oil and very medicinal foods by cooking with herbs. and eating lots of veggies will go a long way to reducing cravings-keeping you full and moving regularly-delivering nutrition and hydration.are you having at least 2 bowel movements a day?hopefully as many as you have meals? you may like to also try oil pulling which is essentially swishing and shugging medicinal oil (coconut/ sesame/safflower) in your mouth for 20 minutes and then spitting it, is really nice for helping most noticably the skin and i am sure also the mucous membranes, its supposed to leach out toxins through your lymph system.
i feel alot of the time my Sugar cravings are really water cravings...something like my colon needs hydration and cant get it from my body like it should--or that my cravings are really constipation even though i move regularly, but very short term constipation.
sometimes i feel best when i dont eat anything or if i just eat veggies...so that makes me feel like i should do a sort of veggie fast, eating cooked and uncooked veggies and give my system a chance to purge. but i dont really have the low-stress environment here to do it..
i think a lot of people here dont dig threelac...i took it with food for one box's worth and it really helped me digest starches while i was using it, but some people even seem to think it can be dangerous.
hopefully we can find health together
end this suffering
I finally found a good organic store but i forgot to look for the saurkraut when i was there yesterday. I really like to get some for help with digestion but i'm not sure if i need it but it would't hurt to use it at the start of my strict candida diet. I've been using veggie digestive enzymes with everything i eat. Also i like to make some probiotics from the saurkraut, i've already made some from cabbage but i heard the saurkraut was better.
I'm not sure if i should have the nuts so early in my battle against candida but they sure are tasty the pecans with cultured butter on them. Have you heard they could cause sugar/carb cravings? I still get alot cravings especially at night. Then if i cheat i get crazy like out control & want more.
Yes i said i get the all over body aches at times. I think i especially feel bad when i've cheated i end up paying for it sometime for days. The next morning i will wake up with a headache usually after a cheat.
Also like you i can feel ok for hours then later feel like crap where i can barely function. I've had to stop the anti fungals including the coconut oil except for 1 tbl spoon a day since i cheated recently & i felt super tired & like i had a hang over & i don't drink lol. I'll start slowly increasing the anit fungals in a few days.
I'm taking fiber(Psyllium Husk) it helps keep me having at least one bowel movement first thing in the morning. Sometime i go more but with such low calorie intake i don't see how someone can have more bowel movements, maybe i should increase my veggie intake. I've lost alot weight since trying to beat candida, more weight then i like to loose.
I've heard of the oil pulling through earth clinic. I heard the sesame oil was good but maybe i'll try the coconut oil one day too. I've done it about 3 or 4 times before but not in a couple months.
Threelacs seemed to really give me instant relief from the acid reflux but also i realized raw garlic helps it too.
Working on a farm must be pretty cool lots fresh air.
Yes hopefully we can find good health together. I pray we beat this candida back to its friendly yeast very quickly.
you need to be eating a sufficient amount of calories!!!
especially if you arent metabolizing a lot of what you eat because of indigestion. are your bowel movements well formed brown without peices of undigested food? if not you need to work first of all on sufficient stomach acid and enzyme secretion. bitters and/or betaine HCL will help.
what really helped me, was to get proper digestion, to practice food combining, and to thereby discover and stop eating foods that cause bad reactions. sometimes it is combinations of foods that cause reactions and separatly they can be eaten. now that my stomach acid is sufficient to digest nut proteins, as i have done proper combining for a long time-i can again tolerate best cashews and pecans though other nuts i still react to...but i didnt eat them for 3 months almost.
food needs to be properly broken down by acid before it leaves the stomach. i find that if i dont properly food combine, i get poor digestion and all of my problems start there. it may be the same for you.
depending on where you are you might also be intolerant to sauerkraut and probiotics, i was for a long time. but now as long as it has no vinegar im ok. intolerance of these can also cause food cravings, but starting with a small dose and slowly working up should help.
if you are feeling hung over--that points to auto intoxication by fermentation in the gut. and this can cause all sorts of problems and needs to be ended soon as possible.
get your stomach acid up. avoid starches as best you can until you are confident your digestion is working well- then slowly work them back in starting with legumes... include probiotics and also low Sugar fruits (eaten alone on empty stomach (morning/afternoon/ night) 20 minutes before meals (follow with some water). i know the fruit has passed my stomach when i pee.) then i know its okk to eat a meal. fruit will help alleiviate constipation and avoid processed Sugar cravings!
I know its been a while since I posted. I haven't been doing very well with my anti candida diet. I was on this lady named Bee's protocol with a high fat & high protein diet and I think the diet was really bad for me especially since I don't have a gallbladder & she recommended not taking the digestive enzymes when I needed them especially to help break the fat down since I'm lacking a gallbladder & I have candida. Then I would binge for days at times. I read fat slows down the digestion & proteins especially from animal meats are really hard to digest.
Now I've been getting alot pancreas pain & my digestion is worst then ever. So I think the best thing for me right now is a mainly a liquid diet until my digestion & pain subside.
Anyways how & what is the auto intoxication (fermenting) & what does it do to you? How do I stop it.
hope things are a little better since you posted...you do not have a gall bladder...i read now that it stores bile that the liver produces...and i dont know how you receive bile when you eat, but the liver makes it and i assume you still get some... i would consider trying bitter herbs before meals to stimulate digestive secretions, and if you feel that isnt enough it would make sense to supplement with digestive enzyems and take some of the stress off of your body
...as always eliminating intolerant foods from the diet and maintaining distance between meals to allow full digestion before eating again
...proper food combining which means dont dilute heavier protein/fat meals with water and fruit and Sugar so that your body can do the work without interference.
the quickest way i find to stop the indigestion and autodetox is to wait and sleep and fast and drink salted water and ginger tea until the food has moved on and then you can eat a good sized salty and spicy meal that you know you can digest well which will push everything on through
so...well spaced meals,,,proportioned with foods you can digest...probably rice? and salad. and lighter meats such as fish...the more vegetables you eat the less stress it will be to digest. also real salt with you meals will significantly improve the effectiveness of the bile that you do naturally have...large glasses of water with pinch salt in the morning followed by fruit should probably clean you out well enough to start eating regular meals again...you could try fasting untill noon and eating a large salad also to clean you out..
together we are moving towards health
Thank you for the reply. I started taking the digestive enzymes with each meal & snacks again. I seen a Naturopathy last week & she showed me with the PH strips that I don't have alot stomach acid like I should have to digest food. So I have to purchase some HCI or bitters on monday. I just hope taking the HCI doesn't make my pancreas ache more. Also I started back taking the probiotics, for months I stopped but now since my Naturopathy says I really should at least take one a day even if I have to spilt the dose up but they seem to make more acid. Hmmm I'm wondering why probiotics cause me to get acid reflux like symptoms when I take them. The probiotics definently give me die off symptoms too. I'm trying to stick it out & space my meals & eat small ones. I just feel so hungry all the time.
I test my PH with PH test strips like these. You test your salvia after a meal by spitting in a little cup then stick your strip in the salvia same goes for the urine PH. Here are some PH strips I used.
When you eat your stomach acid level should be higher like in a range of 5.0-6.0 & little lower when you haven't ate from what I was told. If the strip color from the salvia is in the green range your stomach acid is low.