Someone referred me to this site a while ago. I am not sure of the exact nature or purpose of this site, but after reading through a number of topics in "Fasting: Water", I can see that many here have studied fasting extensively.
My name is Olivia Cohen, and in a few hours I will complete a 2nd, 40 day water fast, and after 4 days, plan to embark on a 3rd.
I am not very confident that I will be able to finish this third fast. In addition to that, I am also not happy about taking the vitamin/mineral cocktail I take each day, although it works well. The problem is the nausea it causes and the sometimes afterward stomach discomfort. I noticed elsewhere that most here disapprove of the regimen I am taking, and I would prefer not to, but I have found nothing better at keeping my energy levels up, as well as keeping the lightheadedness and fatigue at bay.
I saw someone post that several vitamins won't work unless in combination with others, or won't work when certain others are present. I previously learned about this in college, but I am not familiar enough with the interactive properties of vitamins and minerals to use them to my advantage.
Are there vitamin/mineral supplements that are produced with these interactions in mind? The goal is to decrease the number of pills I have to take each day, though, not increase it.
Is there another way to keep my energy levels up and lightheadedness away while still maintaining the integrity of the water fast?
Here is the minimum daily amount of vitamins and minerals I take:
Three times a day I take (with 20 ounces of water each time):
1 daily multivitamin for men (Walgreen's brand)
1 daily multivitamin for women (Walgreen's brand)
1 iron tablet (any brand usually works for me)
1 b12 tablet (any brand with the highest RDA % per pill)
3 potassium pills (each from a different brand, so three brands in total each at 3% DRV)
Once a day I take:
1 sodium/salt tablet, or an empty pill capsule that has been filled with regular table salt (any brand will do for me, but I use Morton)
I also try to drink as much water during the day as I can.
While it says "three times a day", I sometimes take them as many as six, if the fatigue is becoming too great. Obviously, this is one of the worst things about the fast, though it is no where near as bad as the energy loss and fainting would be without them.
So, you see my dilemma. I was hoping someone here would have a better idea of what to do or take to keep my energy at normal levels, without having to take so many pills.
I am aware of the options to refeed longer, fast for shorter periods of time, juice fasts or the like, etc. I admit, those are tempting options, but I have done all of that in the past, and I wanted to do something different, and better this time, for spiritual reasons. I just don't want to die from it or be bedridden while I'm doing it.
I know that some will attack me as crazy/extreme/acting dangerously etc., and I won't fight back with them, because many of you are far more educated about fasting than I am, and I know everyone just has my health interests in mind. But what I really want is some help in alleviating this pill-stomach problem.
The hunger I will deal with, and there will always be some tiredness from fasting, but if at all possible, I hope someone can help rid me of having to take this high number of pills on an empty stomach.
Even if it is an answer like: "Take these vitamins together at this time, these minerals this many hours later, never take these two within this many hours of each other..." That would be wonderful.
I apologize for the long post,
And I appreciate all of your help and concern,
I think a deficiency in minerals is more dangerous than a vitamin deficiency. Because you have fasted for so long you could be low on vital minerals such as potassium. Supplements that contain potassium only supply 100mg at the most and the body needs around 3,500mg per day.
Mineral deficiencies don't show symptoms. I wouldn't judge your health solely on how you are feeling because sometimes you can feel okay, even if things are not okay.
If you really do have to continue fasting then I would advise that you take the RDA of chelated calcium, magnesium and potassium (in the form of potassium chloride powder).
Make sure you post a video post-fast, maybe every couple of weeks so that your "fans" can see how you are doing.
Wow, 3500mg, that would be 35 potassium pills a day. Is there a way to get one pill with 3500mg of potassium in it, without a prescription, or even with a prescription?
Magnesium is in the multivitamins I take, but I didn't want to take too much of it so as to avoid the laxative effect magnesium causes, which can be deadly when fasting. Is there a way to take magnesium in large quantities while avoiding those additional consequences?
I have been trying to take potassium in increasing quantities. I am not familiar with the benefits of potassium chloride powder. But I am interested to hear your theory and what you experienced.
I will try to be better about posting videos both during and after the fast. I regret being lackadaisical with the vlog.
You can buy potassium chloride powder at the supermarket. It is sold as a salt-substitute. I don't know what it would be called in the States, but in Canada and the UK it is called Lo-Salt and No-Salt.
There is a post somewhere here by mouseclick, I think, where he gives a url about a woman who fasted for 92 days but she made a solution of the RDA of calcium, magnesium, potassium and salt in a litre of water and drank it every 3 days. So she was getting a 1/3 of the RDA on the assumption that the body does not need as many nutrients while fasting.
I will try to find the link, or perhaps mouseclick will post it again. I would also just take one multivitamin per day and forget about all the other ones. But I would buy a more expensive multivitamin (not the Walgreens one). You can buy liquid vitamins that contain high amounts of all the vitamins, particularly the B vitamins. Some of them omit Iron, and if this is the case then I would also take liquid iron (Floradix is the best liquid iron supplement).
So in my opinion you should make you own mineral water with mag/cal/pot/salt and take 1 good quality one-a-day vitamin and also liquid iron. I think the RDA for potassium is 1,750 but new reports are suggesting it should be higher (3,500) but I think that would be too harsh while fasting. The body uses less nutrients while fasting.
The experienced water fasters here are against taking supplements while fasting, however yours might be a different case due to the length of your fast and your busy home life etc.
Make sure you post more videos on youtube after your fast because a lot of people are following your progress and it would be a shame if you just disappeared and left people wondering.
This is the link to the blog of the 92 day fasting woman named Catyrpel. I posted this a few weeks ago to Mouseclick. If you read the entries to her blog, and also the comments section over to the right side of the screen, there are a few posts by someone with a name of Ayehasherayeh which will answer your question:
Chris will most likely be able to answer your questions, most of us here are not experts, but he definitely is and was healed from Leukemia by fasting.
I do want to say the following short comment;
I find you to be an inspiration. I wish I had the iron will as you do. You seem to be a very nice person and I hope you are alright. Please keep updating the videos so we know how you are.
By the way, there is a video series you may be interested in on YouTube. If you go to the YouTube site and type in:
Paul Nison Health According to the Scriptures
There is an eleven part (or it may be ten parts) series he has made. He is messianic Jewish (I think that is the term, if I am correct) and seems to know quite a lot. He has several other series up on YouTube as well.
Like Mouseclick I shall not be able to answer your questions in any depth at the moment as it is late here in the UK, but will get back to you tomorrow after I had time to reflect on your fasting experiences.