i hope i post this in the right section this time.
the problem is my body is not digesting my food anymore. i am now on whole foods since 6 months (have been 2 years raw before). i eat vegetarian (also no eggs), and dring a little bit of raw organic goats milk. but when food comes out again, it looks like it went in and its very loose (more like diarrhea, which i have very often too). i also have a lot of gas, diarrhea and have to burp while eating.
my thought was low stomach acid ... but stomach acid is only responsible for proteins (meat), or am i false?
oh and i also have to say, that last week i water fasted for 4 days, and after this time, the food came out completely digested, like i think it should be. but then i became diarrhea and everything is like before.
maybe someone can help me!?
sorry posted 2nd post in wrong forum, how can i change this?
I have the exact same problem with yours. I tried Citrucel, and it sort of worked. It's a fiber supplement. Do not rely on the fiber in fruits and veggies. Citrucel has a special fiber. You may also try flax seed, which works for some people. Metamucil also works, but it made my heart race. But, these may still not be the complete cure, I should say.
I do not believe you have a stomach problem. Go, take an "upper GI" test, if you have health insurance. They will make you drink barium and have a look at your stomach and duodenum. Anything problematic in stomach and the beginning of upper intestines will show up. Just to make sure things...
My guess is that you have problems with liver and bile secretion. This is what I also suspect about myself. You may not be producing enough bile. How is your skin and complexion? Do you get easily tired? How is your mental agility and concentration?
What you are describing is a lack of stomach acidity. The bloating and burping is caused from the food putrifying instead of digesting. As the food sits there and ferments carbon dioxide gas is formed causing the bloating and burping. Lack of stomach acid can also contribute to yeast overgrowth that also contributes to the gas formation due to fermentation of sugars in the diet.
As for acid and protein, yes you are right. The protein digestive enzyme pepsin cannot work without sufficient stomach acid. Meats are not the only source of protein. Plants also contain proteins. So a lack of stomach acid can also interfere with the digestion of plant material
Here is a detailed write up on digestion I did previously:
As for digestion, the biggest mistake people make is that they tend to use products that alkalinize the stomach acid. This is a REALLY BAD idea!!! The stomach acid serves various purposes such as preventing dangerous microbes from entering the body through the digestive system, mineral absorption, vitamin absorption, and protein digestion (the protein digestive enzyme pepsin cannot work without sufficient stomach acid). A lot of the problems we see with aging including wrinkles, emphysema, osteoporosis, diverticulitis, hormone imbalances, acid reflux, nutritional deficiencies can all be linked back to declining stomach acid levels as we age. This leads to the loss of nutrients, in particular silica needed for collagen and elastin formation, minerals, and B vitamins. We all know that taking antacids and acid blockers are detrimental to the health for these reasons, but the same applies to alkaline waters, baking soda, oyster shell, coral, dolomite, lime, etc. all of which wipe out the stomach acid. These should NEVER be ingested if someone wants to remain healthy. Not only will neutralizing the stomach acid lead to nutritional deficiencies, but it will also lead to microbial diseases. There is a very persistent myth that pathogenic microbes thrive in an acid environment. The fact is that the majority of pathogenic microbes actually not only live, but thrive in an alkaline environment. Take for example the Helicobacter pylori (H. pylori) bacteria, which causes ulcers and stomach cancer. The reason H. pylori secretes highly alkaline ammonia in the stomach is to neutralize the stomach acid so it can survive. It requires an alkaline environment to survive. And then there is E. coli, which normally inhabits the alkaline intestines. Not everyone who ingests E. coli becomes sick. The elderly and young children are the most prone to E. coli induced illness. Why? Because in both cases there is less stomach acid to kill the bacteria if ingested. And why do antibiotics cause yeast infections, particularly in women? It is because the vaginal canal, like the skin, is supposed to be slightly acidic. The Lactobacillus bacteria that inhabit the skin and vaginal canal produce lactic and acetic acids to control the growth of bacteria and fungi. When the antibiotics kill off the Lactobacillus bacteria the pH shifts to the alkaline side and secondary infections result as the bacteria and fungus are now in a more hospitable alkaline environment rather than a hostile acidic environment. Getting soap in the vaginal canal also causes yeast infections because the highly alkaline soap again shifts the environment to a more bacterial and fungal friendly alkaline environment.
Getting back to digestion, the best ways to improve digestion are:
-Get a little trace element salt in your diet. Stomach acid is formed from salts. For example sodium chloride is split then the sodium becomes sodium bicarbonate. The chlorine atom is combined with hydrogen to form hydrochloric acid, otherwise known as stomach acid.
-Eat foods rich in B vitamins. B vitamins are essential for the formation of stomach acid. It needs to be noted though that the B vitamins needed for stomach acid formation (B6, folate) also require sufficient stomach acid for their absorption,
-Zinc also acts as a catalyst for the formation of stomach acid. Recommended dose is 50mg daily with a large meal. Again, zinc requires sufficient stomach acid for its absorption.
-Taking a little apple cider vinegar or a vitamin C (ascorbic acid) with meals will help with the absorption of these minerals.
-Digestive bitters help to stimulate the release of stomach acid, bile and pancreatic enzymes. They are sold in health food stores, and they must hit the tongue to work. Recommended dose is 1/2 dropper full with meals. Drink plenty of water throughout the day when using bitters since they will also flush the liver out.
-The supplement trimethylglycine (TMG), derived from beet leaves, is a strong methyl donor. It helps in the formation of stomach acid among many other things. There are about 4,000 methylation reactions in the body, so TMG can do a whole lot of good for the body.
i ordered some HCL/Pepsin Capsules yesterday, and hope they will arrive tomorrow. i will take them with my meals and see how it goes.
i said to me if that doesnt help, i will water fast again, because i do not like to supplement things, that the body can produce itself. because i think there must be a reason that the body is not producing enough acid.
The primary reason the body becomes unable to produce enough stomach acid is from nutritional deficiencies. Stomach acid is actually formed from the chloride component of plain old salt. It binds with hydrogen to form HCl. The sodium is used to form sodium bicarbonate. Stomach acid formation also requires zinc and some B vitamins, B6 and B12. Part of the problem though is that these same nutrients also require sufficient stomach acid to be absorbed. If the stomach becomes too alkaline from lack of nutrition, antacids, acid blockers, alkaline waters or other alkaline drinks the absorption of the nutrients required to form the stomach acid is impeded further reducing stomach acidity.
Methylation is also required for the production of stomach acid, which is why I also recommended the TMG to jump start the stomach acid formation.
Consider that the mouth creates up to a pint & a half of saliva for every meal we eat...and that saliva is laden with all kinds of digestive enzymes.
Third grade science? (or what USED to be grade-school) - it's like taught at the Master's level now:
Chew your food to a total liquid before swallowing (20-30 "chews" per bite).
Digestion doesn't start in the stomach, it starts in the mouth.
I've cleansed and restored my digestive tract until it's "perfect", and I eat an optimum diet (70-80% raw/organic).
I have 3-5 bowel movements daily - depending upon how many times I eat...each happening 15-20 minutes or less after I ingest more than one piece of fruit....
When I chew my food correctly, my bms are perfect color and consistency. When I don't chew my food correctly, I have chunks of undigested food in the stools. Hmmm, I wonder what that has to do with stomach acid & pancreatic enzymes?
Of course, I've done lots of liver flushing and have strong bile flow - it sounds to me like you could probably use a bit of liver work (???)
If you want to come over to the Natural Healing forum and learn a bit more about colon cleansing and digestive health (and getting some bile flowing) logically & naturally WITHOUT the use of supplements, you're more than welcome. http://curezone.com/forums/f.asp?f=970
thanks. yeah my problem is that i do not have "chunks" of undigested food in my stool. my whole stool is undigested. and not sometimes ... always. it looks the same like it went in, no change in color, nothing. strange huh?
I agree that digestion starts in the mouth, but not all digestion occurs in the mouth. Enzymes are also released from the pancreas, bile from the gallbladder, and stomach acid from the stomach lining. Lack of saliva does not cause the gas and burping he mentioned though. Lack of stomach acid does.
Yes, ACV will help with stomach acidity. And the raw, unrefined vinegar is also a great source of nutrients including some for stomach acid formation. Although I do not like substituting for the body's production of anything long term. So supplying the nutrients I mentioned earlier and bitters are better choices for the long term
Calcium affects all body systems, and a low level will produce digestive disfunction as well as muscle, bone, and skin problems. Sunlight (vitamin D)is the catalyst that will help activate it in your body.
An iron supplement would be another consideration.
Milk is a very poor source of calcium. Milks may contain a lot of calcium, but this does not mean that it is readily available to the body. Protein in milks block calcium absorption. This is why vitamin D is added to milk. It helps to counter some of the calcium absorption blocking from the protein.
Green leafy vegetables are a much better source of calcium. They also supply the magnesium that needs to be taken with calcium.
Hi Dave, Did you ever figured out a solution for your problem? I have been suffering with this exact same symptoms. What I have noticed is that my symptoms get better when I don't eat too much. I have also noticed a significant improvements in my symptoms when I take digestive enzymes.