My wife suffers with sinusitis for 20 years. She got the cold when she was a teenage and overused those drug (decongestion stuff), and since then has one side almost 100% block and the other 50% block. She doesn’t have any other symptoms such as running nose. Just block nose and some time pain pressure on the side 100% block. When the weather is cold and humid, the symptom gets worse. When the weather is dry like in the winter she feels better. We live in Florida, so in winter the humidity is about 40-50%.
About 3 years ago, she did go to two doctors and they all said is allergy and gave some flonase or some thing like that. Definitely we know is not, since she suffer this days in and days out, no big up and down, and the drug is not working anyway.
Another thing is when she do some exercise like jogging, she feel a little better after that. She just doesn’t have the time. Our diet is tilt to the vegetarian side, no diary, a little meat.
Any advice? I plan to take her to see the doctor again and doing research to find a good doctor.
And what fungal sinusitis like? Does she seem have it?
I would check on what kind of dental work she has done - root canals on top teeth typically spread infection to sinuses and its almost impossible to eliminate it with antibiotics since blood flow to the site is reduced or eliminated.
Also check for specific food allergies (blood type, ayurvedic, metabolic typing and other could shed some light on that).
Personally I have used Colloidal Silver on my sinuses with some sucess (still have root canal so all it does is keep it under control). If its fungal infection than perhaps a grapefruitseed extract dilution or even a weak peroxide solution could know it out. Always check for underlying issues before just trying to treat the focal infection first.
Oil-Pulling helps most people with sinus problems, it makes breathing really clear. But do keep in mind that just like #21277 said, if she has any root canals on the upper teeth this can very well contribute to sinus infections. I know because I have one that needs to be removed and I am having sinus problems because of it.
Candida fungus can also cause sinus problems. Does your wife have any reoccurring vaginal yeast infections? If so she may possibly have systemic candida which also can cause sinus problems.
Thanks you both for your help.
She doesn’t have root canals as I know. Her teeth are pretty good. She had the braces for the last three years and taking very good care of her oral care. Anyway, during her 20 years of sinusitis, she has good teeth, but the gum got inflammation very easily due to poor oral care in the old time.
I look at the oil-pulling forum before I reply to you. Seem like the same as mouth wash, what’s different from using Listerine?
Oil-Pulling is not a mouthwash. You would swish sunflower or sesame oil in the mouth for 10 to 20 minutes until the oil gets thin then you spit it out. It pulls toxins out of the body, especially the head area. It would at least help your wife get a clear nose. Listerine would only put more toxins in the body elch! Not to mention the nasty taste! Here's a good website to get an understanding of it:
Thanks for the info. I decide to try the oil pulling myself first. I have some gums problem, easy to get inflammation, retreat gum line, etc. I used sesame oil yesterday morning, first one last only 3 minute, there is a strong sensational dry, itching in my throat and I almost vomit, so I spit out. I then try again immediately, this time I manage to control the sensation, last about 15 min. the oil did turn thin and a little yellowish white, not quite white and foaming as said. And I not sure if I gargle my throat or not, which in the booklet said not to gargle the throat. I’m sure I didn’t swallow the oil, but I did do something like a gargle in my throat to smooth out the dry sensation.
I feel only some freshness in the morning after the oil pulling, not much else. May be the sesame oil I used is sitting on the kitchen table for too long, I’ll buy some sunflower oil and try again.
root canal on upper of lower teeth can cause sinus infections. The best method is get to the MD request a NASAL SMEAR forget about the ENT they will charge you a bunch of money I've seen tons of specialist and the ENT really charge the most and they do the least...my experience anyway You want the ENT tests if you want to know the level of inflammation and you suspect polyups I prefer Thermagrapy no radiation better results and cheaper .. MY dentist is the one that told me I had a very bad sinus infection when I went to the dentist for routine visit they did the typcial dental x-ray showed major sinus infection that x-ray cost like 30.00 at the dentist and the ENT with great insurance was 265.00. ..anyhow my nasal smear found I had Ecoli YIKES and fungus infection. Apparently caused by serious lower teeth root canal infections... I did not even know I had this until I decided to have both root canal extracted because I read they can make you super sick. The key to sinus infection is first identify what is in you sinuses then begin a attack plan of total saturation of the nasal tissues with a nasal irrigation tool and the antagonist of choice, Seriously this will work if done right and, breathing in steam with powerful oils helps and be consistenT. Take high doses of vitamin C for four months to be sure. Work closely with ND because they have other effective natural ideas that you MD will never have in a million years! However if you want the hammer treatment go see the MD
Was your wife evaluated by an ENT and did they order a CT scan of her sinuses? If not that is the first thing she needs to do.
If she did, and was still told it was allergies, then it might be worth your while to get tested. Allergies often start in women in their teens/early 20's. It has something to do with hormones. Allergies are much more than a runny nose, so do not assume it can't be allergies. You can have year long allergies, especially in a mild climate like Florida. Dustmite allergy is another source of year round allergies, and dustmites thrive in humidity. The fact she feels somewhat better in the dry winter makes me suspect a possible mold allergy. I have many allergies, and I never had the runny nose thing. It was always instant congestion for me. ANd sinus congestion = sinus headaches.
Flonase is an effective nosespray for both allergies and sinusitis. The problem is if you are severely congested, you end up just spraying on the mucus and it never reaches the nasal tissue. My allergist described it as putting oil on water. Using a saline nasal spray or nasal irrigation and blowing your nose beforehand will help the Flonase reach the nasal tissue.
It is also possible she has neither sinusitis or allergies, but has sinus polyps. Again, she would have to get a CT scan to diagnose. I had a friend who suffered from polyps for years, and kept complaining allergy meds didn't work, she finally got a CT scan which showed the polyps.
go to pubmed.gov and enter the search terms "biofilm sinusitis."
Read the abstracts that you find there.
also go to the national Science foundation center for biofilm engineering site.
Biofilms are complex communities of bacteria all kinds of other microfloria, found in watery environments on all kinds of surfaces. What they share is that they are form a gooey glue that allow them to stick to the surface and each other. The first biofilms that I studied were causing pitting corrosion on stainless steel.
Biofilms are a great pest in potable water systems and are extreamly hard to kill there. Bacteria in a biofilm will live through antibotic concentrations 100 times higher than the MLD 100 for free floating bacteria of the same species.
What I have found helpful.
Peppermint oil externally applied.
Enzymes such as papaya enzyme, cellulase, protease, serrapeptise, amylase.
Sugars that foul the goo's attachment sites such as D-mannose
Grape seed extract
beta glucan nanoparticals
licorice root concentrate
Activa or Curturel because the lacto bacillis is not a goo former and makes enzymes that fight them.
Be aware that when the goo starts to come loose it is like stripping old paint off a surface. It swells up first even as it begins to flow out.
With constant application of this stuff I manage to keep both sides of my head open.
My long term hopes ride on a vaccine against e-coli and a vaccine against beta glucan, a componant of
fungal cell walls.
If you read the cites you will see that people with CS have a biofilm, and the controls don't, it is my theory that people with Cronic sinusitis have the wrong strain of e coli. Every survey of bacteria in people's sinuses has found staph and e-coli, but you see this bug comes in smooth or rough versions and the rough version has has spikes called pili or curli. The smooth e-coli does not stain with congo red and is not involved in human disease. The e-coli with the pili creat red staining colonies and are the main cause of urinary tract infections. These red staining strains use beta amyloid to glue themselves to each other and the surface. They also insinuate themselves below the surface of the epithieal cells. The red version uses it's little spikes to exchange plasmids with other bacteria of it's species and different species, so it's genetics are extreamly veriable.
I think the e-coli is the basement species. Most fungus can not attach by themselves.
Thanks for your info. I read a little bit of those things you mentioned. I'll read more carefully later on.
I'm not quite understand all the terms and things. you mensioned a lot of stuff you apply. Do you apply them topically, spray inside the nose or take orally. Like tea I assume drinking it. "Peppermint oil externally applied" on surface of the nose? How about papaya enzyme, D-mannose and all the others? does Zapper useful? I look at all your post, one of you post cited one mensioned zapper?
A zapper can cause cila to jerk even if it is parallized. If your wife has any cila left to jerk it may help a lot.
I think my ultimate zapper helped a good bit. I would like to try a more capable Rife machine at a higher intensity and lower frequency but have not had axcess to one.
The right enzymes eat apart the goo, and have banished the burning pain between my sholdier blades and under my sternem.
The most effective way for me to use them is to let them melt in the back of my mouth. If the main drain down from your sinuses has a think layer of goo, it is difficult to clean it up with nasal spray, but is readily accessible to things held inside one's mouth. Sniff and spit, sniff and spit. Sniff and spit, then blow. It is a lot easier to vaccume it out the back way, once it is a bit liquid, than to blow it out the front.
About peppermint oil. it interfers with the bugs communications, it can be used as a nasal spray, it causes some swelling, so this might not be the best. It can be absorbed through the skin and it burns, so be careful. If I have a blocked frontal and maxillary sinus, then putting peppermint oil on my cheek and forhead, and around the back of my ears, down my spine and down my front has made the pain cease and encouraged things to drain. CAUTION IT BURNS!!!!!! So I basicly traded the burning of anorobic processes, pressure and suffocating, for the icyburn of peppermint.
I have gotten it in my eyes, and have suffered the loss of my site for an hour or two, but no permenate damage, Peppermint oil no picnic, just better than drowning.
Early on I had just been to the orlangalogest and was told that all the cultures were negative, but I was strangleing, light headed, had a stiff neck and a fever. I used a cotten wad wound around florest wire to swab my sinuses with rose fungicide. The next day it felt as if something tore loose from the middle of the inside of my head and spat out a brownish green spongy mass the size of my thumb. Another big patch fell away from the vertical surface leading down from my sinuses and my vocal cords and I could breath and swallow again. I just couldn't talk for a couple of weeks.
I don't recommend this, but again it is better than drowning in goo. (and it turns out the cultures were not negative, they had just been sent to the CDC and the CDC did not give any feedback for several weeks so the Dr assumed they were negative.)
The enzymes don't usually hurt anything other than your pocket book.
Many thanks truehawk! Your info truly help me.
May I also ask your advice on enzyme product? I do some research on the internet. The products vary widely. Different source, plant like papaya and pineapple, animal like pig, and the product from national enzyme company make from fungal. And all those different unit (FCC, GDU, USP, etc.), quantities and prices. and chewable, tablet, capsule. I assume chewable tab you can melt it in the mouth, but I can also open the capsule and melt the powder, right?
I like CandaiZyme, 8 capsules at a time. which works well but is 50 bucks for 90 caps/bottle, I know people who swear by a product called Vitalzyme? Also Candiease works, but 60 bucks is a bottle.
To get at the gunk in the vertical passages coming down from your sinuses, you can let the capsules melt in the back of your mouth, and you can feel the gunk turn loose.
I also like Super Papaya Enzyme Plus, which is mint flavored, chewable, and has mannitol in it too and is only about 20 bucks for 360 tablets. Since the bad bugs kick the cells to make them inflame and present mannose on the surface so that they can attach to it, I think the mannitol confuses them. You can chew or melt 8 tabs at a time and still not go broke at an accelerated pace.
I have made nasal spray using 1/4 teaspoon unseasoned adolph' meat tenderizer, to half an ounce of water, half an ounce of 3% peroxide, and half an ounce of afrin type nasal spray and 10mm of good old yellow mustard. (Mustard and the mustard plant, preticularly the garlc mustard plant have antifungal compounds in them.) You can buy the ingredients dead cheap at Sam's club. Leave it in for 10 minutes or so and then wash it out with saline. Be careful, as adolph's can strip paint if you use too much in your solution. You can also gargle with aldoph's in water. Be prepared to gag when the gunk releases from around your soft pallet.
Thanks a million for you great help!
I just check the internet, vitacost.com has the product you mentioned at half the price.
CandaiZyme 90 caps for 25.6, Super Papaya Enzyme Plus 180 tabs for 5.19, pen out 10.38 for 360 tabs.
Some others in the curezone mentioned some nasal spray contain Xylitol, a product brand name Xlear is made from it, have you ever consider it?
I have used Xylitol nasel spray, it is worth a try. It just moved the gunk around for me. I have also used D Mannose as a nasal spray componant. It works pretty well, but is not very soluible and is VERY expensive.
Cinnimon Oil works, but it BURNS< BURNS BURNS. So be careful.
Actually Sporanox and the Zagarese Licorice pellets work best.
I am also trying a HGH Releaser on the theory that if I can speed up the tissue replacement cycle I may gradually gain my nose back square centimeter by square centimeter.
But what we REALLY need are to get rid of it permenately are vaccines.
The bugs have various ways of flying under the immune system radar, but I am pretty sure that the basement species uses beta amyloid to attach itself to the cells,
E. coli Bacteria Make Alzheimer’s-linked Fibers, search on E-coli and curli and you will see what I mean.
Also the fungus pretty much can not attach without the e-coli goo already in place, so if you can get rid of the e-coli, you can get rid of the infection.
so I would be first in line to get an anti amyloid vaccine..
The same for an anti-fungal vaccine based on beta glucan.
Try the Water Cure it works If you can drink half your body weight in water with Sea Salt added or you can make a spray of Sea Salt trust me it works great go to watercure2 check it out
It works for me