Hi it's my first post on here after reading various sites on acne over the past few days - I found this one via a link from acne.org...
Basically I'm 23 yrs old, female and have had cystic acne occurences since I was about 16, prior to that I had the usual teen acne "t-zone" problem...
At 16 I was given Fucidin H to treat some infected whiteheads which helped as it brought down the inflammation (it contains Hydrocortisone) and also helped to expell the fluid within... Following that topical application I was given Diannette Oral Contraceptive and after a 3 day course found myself laying on the floor unable to move... so back to the drawing board....
I was prescribed various topical benzoyl peroxide washes and creams - quinoderm/panoxyl = vary little benefit but plenty of bleached towels and redness to the skin....
Soon after I became pregnant with my first child, during which time I wasn't able to take any treatment for my skin, but developed malasma/raised inflamed acne over the t-zone area...
After the birth of my daughter I was referred for the first time to a dermatologist who after unsucessful courses of antibiotics (Oxytetracyline, Erythromyacin, Doxycycline, Minocycline, Lymecycline) trialled me on a low dosage of Isotretinoin (Roaccutane)....
Roaccutane - This caused me to have quite severe mood swings, depression and the advised muscle aches, dry skin, cracked lips etc... HOWEVER, it did get my skin under control and for the past year, although I've still suffered with the odd blemish and red underskin marks, I've been able to use a light foundation to live a fairly normal life (although I don't feel that comfortable wearing make-up in general).
Well the situation now is (Yeah, You guessed it...) It's Back! :(
This time the cysts aren;t on the cheek area, they've migrated to the jawline/neck (in particular I've never had any on my neck before)....there are 4 on the left side of my neck "pulse-point" area and half a dozen on the opposite side in the same place, I've also noticed the odd one appears every so often in a random place, a month ago it was just under my eyebrow and now I have 2 one on my temple and the other above my lip. They appear just before my monthly period and with only 30 days to heal, the next batch arrive and so this has gone on for the past 3 months.
I've also noticed facial hair growth - although not thick, I get the odd wirey critter, the worst part is the fact it's dark but fine hair on light skin...I've been epilating to remove it and shaving my upper lip as this hurts too much with the epilator.
I've seen my Family Doctor and Dermatologist in the past couple of weeks,
had blood tests done for diabetes (as I was concerned it could be caused my insulin resistance) this came back negative
had blood taken last week for pcos, hormones, thyroid etc - waiting these coming back
and got a pelvic ultrasound scheduled for this weekend all in the vain hope of finding some underlying cause to this horrible disease..
The Derm injected 4 cysts with hydrocortisone - this really hurt which is saying something after childbirth - perhaps my pain tolerance is lower these days :) and he also prescribed me another course of Isotret to be taken for the next 4 months after which point he'll review it. I haven't started taking it yet, wanted to consider my options and get all the test results back.
Since February I've been on a fairly meat-free diet, I don't drink sodas, take a multi-vitamin supplement..
I just don't know what else to do - I'm hoping maybe someone on here has had a similar experience and will share some wisdom...
have you ever tried or considered liver flushing? If your liver is congested, it can cause many many health issues, from zits, itching, rash, constipation, indigestion, insomnia, loss of hair, hormonal imbalances...just the fact that you have used different types of medication over the past years, not to mention the birth control, would indicate that you would benefit from flushing... We have a Liver Flush Forum here at curezone,that happens to have some experienced persons would could offer you great advice/suggestions...best regards
I am new to curezone, I can only tell you that I've read that many have had their skin clear up following multiple liver flushes. It is not a one time deal, but rather several or more flushes, will bring unexpected, positive results, that can actually provide healing in many areas of a persons body. Please do check the Liver Flush Forum , the posts are many and very helpful. Ask around regarding your symptoms. My liver flushing experience was started due to other problems that I was experiencing, not ache....best wishes...
My main source of acne is the chin, which chinese medicine says is attributed to hormone imbalance, specifcally testosterone. I had my hormones checked and sure enough, I have a testo imbalance. I am taking saw palmetto for it, which helps alot. (In general, this board advocates natural methods; I wouldn't take birth control pills/synthetic hormones or accutane again. And only antibiotics for life-saving emergencies).
The hair growth may be a testo clue. If testo is your issue, there is also mariani's transformation serum, which is a topical form of estrogen and progesterone for acne.
Also, antibiotics tend to give people candida, which also can worsen acne.
I've heard about saw palmetto - have you noticed any improvement using this?
the serum is news to me, do you think it would help with my neck acne? I was told by a cosmetic surgery place - specialising in dermabrasion/peels and light therapy that neck acne was an indicator of stress....
DEFINITELY noticed a difference with saw p. right away; read my post further down about "3weeks and still clear". My wonderful dr told me about that transformation serum - it helped more than any other topical treatment. But it probably all depends on whether testo is your issue or not. If so, you'll probably notice an immediate improvement, as I did.
I had all those peels and micro-dermabrasion, etc, but they never affected my acne at all. However, if they say that area is about stress, I almost agree, given that testosterone is rather stressful in itself!
Absolutely!!! I broke up with my boyfriend last year and was devastated and soooo stressed, crying all the time and my neck and jawline saw the worst acne ever! similar happened this year and my neck and jawline has broken out again - NECK AND JAWLINE ACNE = STRESS RELATED. CURE = DETOX as stress is toxic and RID STRESS by calming and relaxation measures.
The things that helped clear up my skin the most were:
1) oil pulling (visit the forum and read through the "R" posts
2) taking Iodine internally, which helps regulate/normalize thyroid/hormones, clean out the body
and 3) using Iodine on the skin directly. Skin holds 20% of body's iodine stores, of which most people are remarkably depleted.
1) buy a bottle of organic unrefined sesame oil (Spectrum makes one). Visit the OP forum and http://www.oilpulling.com
to learn how to do it. Do it. It's a great thing to do and will help not only your skin, but clears up sinuses, improves dental health, brightens teeth and eyes, and increases well-being. Easy to do for 20 minutes while you check e-mail, etc.
2) visit http://www.jcrows.com
and get one ounce of 5% Lugol's solution (about $20, will last a long time). While it is being shipped, visit the VWT team's iodine supplementation forum and acquaint yourself with iodine deficiency, why we need iodine (especially women -- any cystic disorder i.e. breast, uterine will respond well to iodine supplementation.
3) I usually clean my face with a mixture of iodine and sesame oil, or iodine and sesame/coconut. Sesame is antibacterial (= no more topical antibacterials necessary). Oil cleans oil better than soap -- it may seem counterintuitive, but you will have a cleaner face if you don't use soap.
4) figure out a supplementation routine for iodine.
5) I apply iodine topically if and when I get a breakout these days, which is never that severe anyway. It's also great to use if you go out in the sun (iodine and sesame oil) as sesame has a SPF of 4 or so, and iodine protects the skin from harmful rays.
6) One of the doctors that treats with iodine said, "Iodine repairs skin from the inside out" -- it's good to use on any scars, skin tags, moles, etc.
7) The other things to get are Vitamin C and selenium and salt, to help your body get rid of the toxins it has stored. Iodine will get them out of hiding, the selenium, C, and salt will help escort them out of your body.
8) Skin problems indicate the need for internal cleansing. Think about some liver flushing. (You can also do coffee enemas, but some people are not OK with that. I was more OK with that than with worrying about my skin.
9) I think it took about 3-6 months for my skin to really clear up, although I think it would have been faster had I been more assiduous about it all. I have twin pre-schoolers and life can get a little hectic here. But I know these things are what finally helped me break the make-up barrier, so to speak -- and it is really nice after years of wearing it, to not need it any more!
Best of luck and come visit at OP. It is a remarkable therapy, and so is iodine.
Wasn't able to make it to the ultrasound at the weekend as we've had illness in the family....
Saw my family doctor today...
Diabetes tests have come back normal, spoke to my doctor today and she basically gave me panoxyl wash just because I asked for it....
getting a little annoyed with doctors, although it's great that they're compliant, I wish they would use some of the expertise they have to give me proper advise as to what i'm using, rather than just prescribing what I ask for based on my own research....
I also mentioned to her about the PCOS tests and my reluctance to use Roaccutane after depressive episodes last course of treatment, she then mentioned spirolactone? and metformin? both used in diabetes and sometimes pcos/acne without depression as a side effect.
She said that both Roaccutane and Diannette can cause depression/low mood.....
The hormone tests weren't back yet, so I have to chase them up tomorrow.... back to the drawing board if they come back normal....
I looked in my local Holland and Barrett store at Saw Palmetto, Milk Thistle and Flaxseed oil, I was amazed at how expensive these things were... can anyone advise of anywhere cheaper but without any lack of product quality?
Since your dr is so accommodating, you might ask for a brain chemistry test after taking accutane nd experiencing depression - I took it also and was tested as having near zero levels of seratonin in the brain; no wonder there are so many suicides in connection with Accutane! But don't "fix" it with synthetic anti-depressants if you are lacking in seratonin; they ,again, have too many side effects and ,like drugs, one needs more and more to get the same effect.
I'm not familiar with the other suggested drugs, but I would research carefully ANY drug before taking it. The dr's are just legal "pushers" for the pharmaceutical company's poison; they find out after the fact what the real consequences are..."oh, well". I don't take anything anymore without independently researching it. Use google.
I buy my supplements from gnc.com and vitaminshoppe.com. Both are reasonable and I haven't had a problem with them yet.
If you find you have low seratonin levels, it's best to use natural seratonin in the form of 5-htp or l-tryptophan available at health stores.
I stupidly took accutane more than once and was incredibly depressed until I was prescribed paxil. At the time, I would have had to kill anybody who tried to take it away! However, my wonderful dr told me about these natural forms which work great. No side effects like synthetic anti-depressants, which are infamous for destroying your sex drive. Now I'm doing good and always alert for signs of depression, but will probably always have to take a form of seratonin because of accutane.
Was your experience helpful? I found accutane works for a short time, but then the acne returns anyway. Severe depression? Hopefully, the fact that you only took it once will leave a minimum of negative effects. Let us know how your hormone tests and all come out.
I was on Roaccutane 20-40mg doses for around a year (quite a long course as I was yo-yoing with depression, so they kept messing with the dosages...)
It definitely helped until around 6 months after the end of the course, after which time it began to come back and that's where I'm at right now.
Personally I'm very reluctant to go back there... I suffered severe depression and a nervous breakdown subsequently - whether this was the drug or just an inevitibility I'll never know - but you can see why I'm not fond of the idea of going back onto it.
I'm just getting back to semi-normality now with regards to my moods, however I'm told I was a nightmare whilst on Roaccutane the last time (anger, mood swings etc)
You want to address the problem without losing your mind! Accutane and its relatives have terrible side effects -- I was miserable and quit Accutane halfway through a course -- and IMO anything that could cause damage to a baby is something that a grown baby should not be taking either.
Please -- try the iodine. Get clean inside and the outside will follow. Iodine is wonderful for mood, to boot.
Did you suffer the mood swings and depression before accutane? If not, you know it didn't come out of nowhere, especially given accutane's rep for suicides! Get a brain chemistry test and you'll know what is going on in there.
P.S. Anger is a by product of an imbalance of testosterone, like acne and more hair.