First off I wanna start by saying Ive had Exfoliative Chlevitis for a few years now. Skin used to peel off my lips every single day of the week, nowadays it only happens maybe once a week at most. Anyways Im just going to list a bunch of information that Ive learned about EC (Exfoliative Chlevitis).
I am personally convinced that EC is caused by serious imbalances in the body. Going to western medical doctors or dermatologists is useless.. save your time and money. EC seems to be due to a confused immune system (this is one of the most logical theories that I have heared of). Your immune system thinks yor lips are still damaged even tho it has already grow a new layer of skin. That is why we all keep growing never-ending layers of skin.
One of the users on this forum posted "candida yeast overgrowth" is the sole cause of EC. Candida definatly plays its part and almost everyone has this overgrowth wreeking havok in their body due to anti-biotics drugs. Anti-biotics are also found in dairy products in certain parts of the world. Type "candida overgrowth saliva test" into any good search engine and take the test. Chances are you will be shown to have candida.. you will have to look into eliminating this to increase your chances of beating EC along with any other sickness you are suffering from.
Ok... moving on, you should make sure your body is properly eliminating toxins. The main way your body handles this task is through your feces and urine. If you not producing 2-3 large solid bowel movements a day your body is not eliminating as it should. Your urine should always be a clear stream and never look orange except the early morning pee. A wise man said "death and sickness starts in the colon". Over 90% of people who are sick, even if its a small cold are not properly eliminating toxins. Look into a high quality colon cleansing program (dr. natura Colon Cleanse is a good one) or go get an enima if your feeling brave :O
I feel very strange saying that Exfoliative Chlevitis is almost a blessing to me, even tho it has put me through hell. Due to this illness I have learned so much about health in general, the ineffectiveness of western medicine, and how even small health problems are not actually small when you look at the big picture of your overall health.
Oh yeah, Im sure your wondering why I still have EC and other health problems.. because Im broke damn it >< haha, it wont be cheap to reverse your case of Exfoliative Chlevitis but if you got $ to spend in your wellbeing these are SOME of the steps to take...
-Eat organic and kosher as much as possible to reduce toxin intake
-NO TAP WATER, tap water is poison.. contains flouride and chlorine which are highly poisonous toxins! Drink filtered water or if you are rolling in cash buy a water alkalizer. Make sure to drink lots of pure water, drink tap water only as a last resort.
-No commercial balms, moisturizers.. if you have to moisturize get the most pure natural product you can find. NO VALSELINE, NO CHAPSTICK NO CRAP FROM THE DRUGSTORE
-Go see a doctor that is not a legal drugdealer
-Detox your body
-Reduce stress as much as possible
-ALways research everything you read before beleiving it (including this post!)
I am clearing not posting this for any personal gain, Im simply trying to help people who are suffering through the same thing as I am. Honestly Im going to try to keep updating this thread and responding to questions and comments. Looking at other threads Im getting sick of seeing the same old crap, people seem to just want there quick fix expecting to find a miracle lotion that will cure them overnight.
I beleive the cure will only come with good communication.
Please post any questions/comments. Lets find a solution together :)
lol i figured this out 2 days ago... basically if you have a dirty colon... which is comon in alot of people you can't absorb nutrients/vitamins so chances are any tablets you take aren't being absorbed... this is referring to the healing process. I've always wondered why vitamin tablets have never taken effect on me.. and i do have candida, licking your lips with a white tongue is not advised. I've already done a Liver Flush which was unsucessful because i didnt pass any stones. I ignored doing a Colon Cleanse but that is what is needed for simple absorbtion that can help with all skin problems.. e.g. using omega 3 can help with dry skin on the body.
I'm currently eliminating candida and am looking for a Colon Cleanse to do, then a liver flush. Its all worth it to rid yourself of ex cheilitis. The only hard task i think would be the fasting on the colon cleanse.. i need more info on that. This whole process of detox could take upto a week but you are guaranteed improvements in health and absorbtion of stuff that aid health. When i first had Ex cheilitis i ignored this information but now i see that any product i take is simply going straight to the urinal tract and not being absorbed at my colon then i'm wasting money... so most of those vitamins i've being taking haven't had any effect on me... even if i'd overdose say by 1 pill(dont do this).
Thanks for yer quick response, your right about the clogged digestive tract.. It will only alow minimal nutrient absorbtion. Make sure you only buy a natural variety of vitamins (once again no b.s. from the drugstore) because drugstore vitamins cannot be absorbed easily, are highly synthetic and will damage your liver. A couple websites you may want to check out are http://www.iherb.com
(sells great all natural products) and http://www.drnatura.com
(high quality colon cleanse). Im currently taking alive vitamins from iherb, go to the site and take a look.. I find they make a big impact on my health. Forgot to mention in my original post, try and take some kinda immune support supplement (once again find an all natural product).
You are also right about candida causing skin problems. Dont forget all medical problems on the outside of your body are caused by some problem going on inside your body. Remember the big picture. Once I reduced the candida overgrowth in my body along with doing a colon cleanse, stopping smoking (weed and cigarettes), started eating alot of organic foods my lips got soooo much better. They still peel here and there but they no longer crack when I smile or talk.
You were also wondering about fasting during a colon cleanse, first off.. since you have Candida overgrowth this will be a huge challenge. One of the symptoms of Candida is very strong hunger urges. Check out the dr natura website I gave you above, thats the cleanse I took and fasting is optional.
Quote from Sigh.. "Why go through all this trouble to peel weekly instead of daily? doesnt seem worht it to me. I believe there might be a quick fix out there and there might not. PErhaps this is genetic disorder that u cant fix??"
Response to "Sigh..":
Originally when I first started suffering from Chlevitis I was smoking ALOT and licking my lips constantly, along with living a very unhealthy lifestyle in general. My lips would crack when eating, talking, smiling.. anything that involved opening my mouth. After I made some huge lifestyle changes my lips started to get alot better and stoped overgrowing skin so fast. They went from growing a full layer that would peel off every 1-2 days to growing a thinner more natural layer of skin that only peels maybe once a week unless I lick my lips alot.
Exfoliative Chlevitis could be partly genetic but I have my doubts, the way I see it is that due to all my unhealthy choices my body became inbalanced. Perhaps it is more likely that we all have a damaged gland or organ in our body that is causing the EC. I can almost gaurentee that when you get all your vital organs back into health your lips will follow, it only makes sense. I have heared of people curing their case of EC and it was not with a chapstick, they took various all natural supplements. From what I remember fish oils, evening primrose oils, good all natural multivitamin.. stuff like that.
Response to "The Ronin"
The reason the medication will not heal your case of EC is because medication cannot "heal" any sickness. What medication does is either hide or reduce the symptoms. The main thing to remember that I cannot stress enough is that only your body can heal itself! Drugs dont heal or cure anything. Not to mention the drug companies want you to stay as sick as possible so they can make more money. For example; more than one cure for cancer has existed since the illness became known, if the drug companies would acknowlege that and encourage people to go get cured they would stand to lose BILLIONS.
Response to "Julie"
Hey Julie, oddly enough the lotion that works best on my lips and makes them look great is an organic hand lotion (aubrey organics I think). Check out iherb.com, I dont work for the site or get paid to promote them, Im just doing so because they sell alot of really great products that have helped me. Vaseline and Blistex contain ingredients like petrolium, which is basically unrefined gasolene. Stay away from any commercial products as much as possible because they are filled with harmful ingredients.
As for Candida, you need to take certain pills that will reduce the amount of yeast that has been building up in your body. Candida overgrowth is a bitch to get rid of and will take some work for sure. I havent read it yet but apparently the book "lifeforce" explains candida overgrowth and how to get rid of it for good.
Once again hit up iherb.com and type in candida if you find a product you wanna try maybe check around other sites including ebay for the best price.
Do you all suffer from any other health problems or have you in the past, do any of you smoke, do drugs (legal or street), please everyone give a little discription of your situations. Maybe we can find some common grounds that could be causing EC.
I've ex cheilitis for a very long time say 13 years.. i am tolerant towards it now. Regarding the fasting, i can handle this but i'm afraid if i collapse during work, school or sports. With candida overgrowth i am using candidol and digestive enzymes which i have experienced die-off and higher energy levels. I have neglected eating Sugar since july.. Ok the weird thing happening now is i have 3 swollen lymphnodes, which indicate my body is fighting infection.. one each under my armpits and one near my groin. Will clearing my colon aid killin off candida.. and what product is best use to cleanse colon and battle candida? What is fasting like e.g. how many days?
Maybe having a white tongue and first licking your lips caused the initial spreading of peeling. Ex cheilitis is weird i still get cuts on my lips from sports but the skin still sheds but the wound heals. I'm sure there is a quick fix but you have to find what is feeding the problem.
I remember how i first got ex cheilitis. I was about 7 in the school yard... cold day... dry lips... a bit of skin was loose so i bit on it and consistently licked my lips ... i would go in the bathroom and try to smooth the skin by peeling off the rough skin(painful).. Blood was everywhere, the skin was connected. Now i can't remember exactly how the skin grew back but i think i peeled it off again which sadly might have caused a chain reaction or infection. Ex cheilitis is so confusing i truly believe there is something instant that can CURE it.. yes CURE it but the research and comin up with a theory is difficult. Good communication can aid in this. Right now i use vaseline intensive care lotion and aloe vera vaseline and mix together with about 2 drips of water. Its just a lil formula i made and it works great for me and i get by day to day way easier than previously in my life.
Noticed alot of people wondering bout Candida and how to get rid of it. I'll do my best to explain what I know...
First off the candida test:
As soon as you wake up in the morning before eating or drinking ANYTHING, pour bottled, pure or distilled water into a clear glass (no tap water). Collect saliva in your mouth for 5-10 seconds and spit the saliva into the glass. At this point you can eat/drink what you want. Go about yer business... return to the glass 10-15 minutes later. If there are strange looking strands hanging down from your saliva and the water is cloudy with flakes on the bottom of the glass you have candida yeast overgrowth. For pictures of the test type candida test into a search engine.
Candida Invades The Digestive Tract:
A healthy digestive tract is home to billions of bacteria. Many of these bacteria are highly beneficial to your health.. they create vitamins, help to ward off sickness, keep fungi and yeasts in check among many other things.
During your lifetime you have no doubt taken anti-biotics at some point or another. Anti-biotics completly eliminate all the bacteria from your digestive tract, bad or good they die off. With no beneficial bacteria in your gut yeasts begin to grow unchecked and out of control. These yeasts can cause serious problems for your body.
The symptoms of Candida Overgrowth cover a wide range, everything from feeling lethargic (very low energy), inability to lose weight even with diet/exercise, slowed metabolism, strong hunger urges, dizzyness, headaches.. list goes on and on.
To get your body back into its normal state will take some time and wont be that cheap either. A good start is to take a probiotic supplement wich will provide billions of friendly bacteria back into your system each dose. Unfortunatly the bacteria will probably not work alone, the yeast in your body has probably been growing out of control for years and is clinging to cell walls making it hard to get rid of. Your best bet is to take probiotics along with pills that are specifically for candida overgrowth. Goto w w w . i h e r b. c o m and type in candida to get an idea on what type of products they are. Or even try and find a good health food store in your area.
Hope this helps, lemme know if you need more info.
Are you sure you have EC tho? Constantly peeling lips doesn't necessarily = EC. From the sounds of it, you have a skin picking issue. When you constantly pick your lips like I do, "helping" the dry skin off for a better appearance, your lips think they are being attacked. In response to this attack, the skin grows back thicker in that area. That thicker skin dries out easily and begins to peel and when you pick at it, you continue the cycle. After years of picking, even if you decide to let them run their course without picking, the new skin revealed underneath won't magically be nice plump and normal. Your lips will eventually regenerate to a normal healthy type skin, but this should take months of absolutely no picking. I had a lip biopsy done and it said I have hyperkeratosis and parakeratosis which means my lip skin is thicker than normal and grow back faster than normal. There is no inflammation or irritation which MUST be present for it to be EC. I'm going to start my battle of avoiding picking my lips today. It will be tough as they will look disgusting for days on end, but in hoping will eventually come back if I just leave them alone. Best of luck, hopefully this helps.
Why go through all this trouble to peel weekly instead of daily? doesnt seem worht it to me. I believe there might be a quick fix out there and there might not. PErhaps this is genetic disorder that u cant fix?? seems the most likly thing after review tons of posts and endless internet research. I mean I dont wanna get people down but its probably a genetic coding problem that when once we break the skin on our lips it cant heal, while other people can lick bite and open op the skin on their lips and it heals right up. You know people even pierce their lips and it heal right up. people eat like crap and torture their body with horrible health all the time and they dont wind up with this problem either. But maybe ur right I dont know. I am kinda anti-health because I ve been their to no avail except more stress and peeling lips. if this is a genetic disorder than we r just wasting our times and not enjoying our lives the way we should.
I have tried full body cleanses & every other type of cleanse and to be honest I don’t think they have had a major effect on my EC. Also I have tested myself and I don’t have Candida. I bought this medicine called Denavir, it is said to cure EC fully but the bad thing is that you have to put it on everyday and once you stop it comes back. I haven’t used it though because I’m having great progress with my EC. I still peel every 4th day but nobody even notices that I have EC and that’s good. I honestly feel that one day I will be fully cured! And if not well what can I do? There are much worse things out there.
what do you recommend for natural lip balms? all i use is vaseline and blistex, and i completely agree that they are bad, but i don't know what else to use! I am allergic to essential oils in cosmetics so i'm always hesitant to try new products, but i definitely need to find something all natural. any recommendations are appreciated :) thanks. oh, and also- to rid yourself of candida is absolutely ridiculous! or at least it seems that way. i've been reading about what kind of diet you should have and all the info i found say to stay away from basically everything but vegetables and meat. maybe its harder for me because i live at college, but i'm starving trying to stick to that diet.
Your right about the diet its extremely strict all I eat is meat some vegetables and nuts/olive oil. It gets easier after a few weeks on the diet.
For lip balms I use an all natural/organic one I picked up at the health food store,
occassionaly I use coconut oil/ olive oil but the oils need to be applied often. I have also used badger balm and the all natural chap stick in the beige tube which is available at drug stores. Aquaphor works the best but I am weaning myself off it because its toxic. Heres a link to a cosmetic database which lists toxicity of alot of products.
i am 28 my skin of lip peel off every 3 day. on a week my lower lip skin exfoliate 2 time . on getting wet my lip become white and peel off very easily. it start 4 yr back and till now it persist . now it involve some new area of lip. it also involving upper lip also . it want only that it does not involve new area. so kindly suggest me how to prevent it for involving new area. as old area will not be cure by going thru my doc and article...
Uggghhh I thought I had beat it back last summer but it is back now, so frustrating. No drugs or smoking, only occasional drinking, but, I do fight IBS w/constipation. The paleo diet seems to help with digestive issues.
I had started working outside a lot last May and then started having fever blisters much more often than usual and they were more intense than usual. So, I started taking a high dose L-Lysine like 2 500mg tabs 2x per day. I must have done that for 2 or 3 weeks until I stopped getting the fever blisters. Around that same time my lips stopped peeling and the skin was normal again finally; I had tried everything for a year or longer and nothing worked. I thought it must have been caused by a lysine deficiency, but, now probably the over the last 6-8 weeks it has started up again and I've been taking the lysine again for at least a couple of weeks but it doesn't seem to be working this time. I'll keep up with the high dose for another week or so in case, but, now I'm wondering if it was the high doses of vitamin D that I was getting from working outside that cured the EC rather than the lysine... It had to be something.
Also, for regularity if I take a decent probiotic and a couple of aloe GEL caps everyday I don't have such a problem.
I also went on daily coconut oil several weeks ago and went thru a detox from that. I started with 1 tsp per day and worked up to 1 Tblsp per day now. It has caprylic acid which kills yeast and other microorganisms.
hay iv been suffering from EC for the better part of a year now, the skin on my bottom lip either starts to peel of after about 3 days or goes white when i have a shower, clean my teeth or just get them wet in general iv tried using all different kinds of lip balms and vaseline. iv tried just leaving it and just let it grow and heal and use abit of double base cream moisteriser but it justa never ending cycle of me removing the skin on my bottom lip. i did have a habbit of biting the skin before i had this problem and i was stressing alot i had split up with my girlfriend of over fours years and am still trying to get over her .im pretty much a miserable basterd because of the break up and having EC has really put a downer on my confidence in general its a horrible condition that has only seem to have gotton worse so please could someone tell me about anything that will help me PLEEEASE